[CTRL] OT: ST: Prehistoric Man Were Communists

2000-08-22 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

From:

http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/2000/08/19/timnwsnws01009.html


PREHISTORIC human beings were able to flourish and spread
throughout the world because they lived in a state of "primitive
communism", a psychologist has claimed.

Professor Andrew Whiten, from St Andrews University, told a
conference at the Royal Society of Edinburgh that our ancestors
evolved through a form of co-operation not very different from
the ideals of communism. Human beings were able to dominate the
world against predators such as big cats and wolves, he said,
only by adopting socialist values. All members of the prehistoric
tribes were considered equal, he said, and food and clothing was
equally shared.

"Humans are the most social species on Earth and our ancestors
formed hunter-gatherer groups which pulled together to adapt to
their new lifestyle," he said. "Unlike every other species, they
had an egalitarian culture where everything was shared out
equally: no other animal does that.

"There was also no hierarchy in the society or tribal chiefs, as
anyone who tried to lead was pushed back down by the others.
Everyone was considered to be equal and they lived in a culture
of primitive communism.

"We might expect as the products of evolution our ancestors would
be selfish, but it was their ability to work together and support
each other which made them more successful than any other.

"This supportive culture allowed technology and skills to be
passed down and improved with each generation.

"Although this egalitarian lifestyle is not present in most of
the world today, it may be resting dormant within us waiting to
be reawakened.

"It has been suggested the next step of evolution for humans
would be to form a giant super-organism which uses the Internet
as a nerve centre."



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Re: [CTRL] OT: ST: Prehistoric Man Were Communists

2000-08-22 Thread nessie

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no other animal does that.



This is most untrue.

As the nineteenth century's most eminent scientist, Peter Kropotkin,
pointed out in his brilliant, but suppressed, "Mutual Aid: A Factor in
Evolution,"  all species cooperate, both within species and with other
species, and that those species that cooperate best are the most likely to
survive. Even solitary predators like the Siberian tigers that used to be
his neighbors at the ornithological research station, divide up the
hunting grounds into clearly marked personal zones and respect each
other's territory.

And need I mention the ants?

Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution is available from http://www/akpress.org

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Re: [CTRL] OT: ST: Prehistoric Man Were Communists

2000-08-22 Thread Robert F. Tatman

Amen.  Kropotkin is too often overlooked as a political philosopher.  I've seen
studies of community crisis response which argue persuasively that during a
crisis such as a hurricane, earthquake, etc., the community goes into a roughly
three-day cycle: the first day and a half *no government exists*--and everyone
pulls together in pure Kropotskian mutual aid; then slowly individual greed and
self-interest start to reassert themselves, at the same time that government is
beginning to pull itself back onto its feet and get its own people into the
disaster-relief game.  Recovery to the approximate status quo is complete by the
end of the third day, with emergency personnel (police, military, civil relief)
in control of the situation.  (I've seen this in action during hurricane relief
more than once.)

It is left as an exercise for the advanced student to consider the result if
*another* crisis occurs before the first crisis has resolved itself, then a
*third* crisis occurs before the second has resolved.

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
 
 no other animal does that.



 This is most untrue.

 As the nineteenth century's most eminent scientist, Peter Kropotkin,
 pointed out in his brilliant, but suppressed, "Mutual Aid: A Factor in
 Evolution,"  all species cooperate, both within species and with other
 species, and that those species that cooperate best are the most likely to
 survive. Even solitary predators like the Siberian tigers that used to be
 his neighbors at the ornithological research station, divide up the
 hunting grounds into clearly marked personal zones and respect each
 other's territory.

 And need I mention the ants?

 Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution is available from http://www/akpress.org


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