Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/05/1999 4:53:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Secondly, finding Clinton greatly lacking does not mean that a person is a Republican and believes the days of Reagan/Bush were wonderful as you keep bringing up. It is just that they were less awful than the current administration. But that's my point, Amelia. They weren't. We just didn't discuss their sex lives all day long. I remember being astonished that Reagan took a hard swing at every one of the four freedoms, and only one other person in the world seemed to notice. It was (maybe Raspberry) in an "It's My Turn" in Newsweek. I wish I could remember the administration of any president that was less or more horrible. They've all been cogs in the machine that is trying very hard to destroy our Democracy/Republic (what have you). And our "ethical, less biased press has been trying in every way to help them along. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/04/1999 9:51:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who is telling the lies now? Must be Webster. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/04/1999 10:26:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you saying Clinton did not lie at that particular time or has not lied at all? I remember his saying that if a score card had been kept, he would have gotten a pretty good score because he had told the truth to the American people more than he had lied to them. His own words. That may be just peachy with you but for some of us, it is not good enough. Some of us are against lying all the time. I'm against anyone lying at any time. I'm against anyone fudging the truth any time. If you look at the definition of sodomy, you will see that "technically" Clinton did not lie (at that time). That seems to be what our country is now all about. All politicians seem to lie, and most of them lie all the time. It has never been my contention that Clinton is a "good guy." He's no better than any other politician, and that's where the rub lies. The Press has jumped him over and over for the very same thing that every other president has done, and has acted as though it's a terrible thing because Clinton did it, but when the others did it, it was just "one of those things." It's the sheer hypocrisy that boils me. It doesn't seem to bother anyone else. Clinton's mistress was a sin against humanity, but Bush's was just a nice lady he knew exceptionally well. Clinton's possible pot smoking was the worst thing that ever happened, but Kennedy's was just a little relaxation. The firing of Billy Dale was the most heinous act ever committed, and he was perfectly innocent. Okay? But if the people you work for let you take the funds home and put them into your personal bank account, then you have a very unusual employer. I don't personally like Clinton. As I said, I'm a Democrat. I don't think he is. I just don't see why he should be held accountable for things that have been winked at and are still being winked at for everybody else. Do you remember when he put out the fire in the little girl's hair? It happened the first Christmas that he was in office. He did it quickly and in a very nice way. I just happened to be watching television when it happened. The Press never said a word about it, and it sure didn't make the papers. Why, probably because they had already signed the agreement that they would never say a good word about Clinton. I guess I do pan the Republicans, but they're in charge, and it's my right as an American. Do I prefer Sheila Jackson Lee to Helen Chenoweth? I sure do.Do I prefer that someone pays a little attention to the welfare of children after they have been born (as well as during gestation); I sure do. Do I think medical attention for everyone at a price they can afford is more important than a tax break for anybody? I sure do. Do I believe that people should be paid enough when they work all day to be able to feed, clothe, and house their families? I sure do. Do I think that the Republicans have been working on getting the Government off our backs? No, I don't. Big corporations can pollute at will, but if someone decides your money might have some illusive connection with drugs, they can just take it from you without a word. The cops didn't do that in third world countries where I have lived. Our establishment press doesn't seem to protect us from that sort of thing at all. They never take sides in any issue that really means lasting harm to us. What's really funny is that now that they've joyously spent eight years digging into every possible facet of Clinton, publishing Tabloid garbage and frothing at the mouth over such horrific unknowns as "adultery" in the White House, they are beginning to say, "Oh, we shouldn't be doing this, let bygones be bygones." That because there is an actual photograph out there of Gov Bush standing on a bar, mooning the crowd. "We shouldn't discuss things that happened before." This because everybody knows that the guy who has become their "fair haired boy" was mostly known for being a hard drinking drug addict. He says he has been faithful to his wife. Why should I believe him? Not that I care. It's a business that only counts between him and his wife. I really don't have a need to know, but for eight years the press has been telling me I do. Jack Kemp wrote a book telling me I have a need to know and should be "outraged" that such a thing could happen. So if it has been so important for eight years--why shouldn't it continue to be important? I'm sure the more ethical and less biased press will want to give coverage equally to Democrats and Republicans. And I'm sure the ethical and less biased public will want to be as outraged over Republican behavior as that of Democrats. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory',
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Clinton is a liar, a pervert, an adulterer, a socialist and a failure as a leader. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever?(fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Press has jumped him over and over for the very same thing that every other president has done, and has acted as though it's a terrible thing because Clinton did it, but when the others did it, it was just "one of those things." Please refresh my memory as to the "other presidents" who lied under oath, obstructed justice and disgraced the oval office by being the recipient of a blowjob while talking on the phone about foreign policy.And, as far as I know, all the "other presidents" smoked their cigars. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/05/1999 9:07:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Clinton is a liar, a pervert, an adulterer, a socialist and a failure as a leader. But you haven't said whether you like him or not. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "Not" would be the operative word. Although I think I like Gore alot less. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 07/05/1999 9:07:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Clinton is a liar, a pervert, an adulterer, a socialist and a failure as a leader. But you haven't said whether you like him or not. Prudy And gosh, for a socialist, he sure has done a lot for his capitalist masters. Anyway, the US electorate mostly likes him BECAUSE he's "a liar, a pervert, an adulterer, a socialist and a failure as a leader." They wouldn't have him any other way... (la la) US voters repeatedly elect lying cocksmen, so we get the gov't we deserve, eh? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever?(fwd)
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - From: day [EMAIL PROTECTED] Press has jumped him over and over for the very same thing that every other president has done, and has acted as though it's a terrible thing because Clinton did it, but when the others did it, it was just "one of those things." ...refresh my memory as to the "other presidents" who lied under oath, Reagan obstructed justice and disgraced the oval office Bush, Reagan, Ford, Nixon by being the recipient of a blowjob while talking on the phone JFK, LBJ But I wasn't aware that blowjobs were unconstitutional. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-07-05 07:46:00 EDT, you write: I'm against anyone lying at any time. I'm against anyone fudging the truth any time. If you look at the definition of sodomy, you will see that "technically" Clinton did not lie (at that time). sod*omy (noun) [Middle English, from Old French sodomie, from Late Latin Sodoma Sodom; from the homosexual proclivities of the men of the city in Gen 19:1-11] First appeared 13th Century 1 : copulation with a member of the same sex or with an animal 2 : noncoital and esp. anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex -- sod*om*it*ic or sod*om*it*i*cal (adjective) Seems to me that definition number 2 is sodomy and Clinton is guilty of this with Monica and dozens of other females, some of which did not do this act willingly, and some of which are now dead. That seems to be what our country is now all about. All politicians seem to lie, and most of them lie all the time. It has never been my contention that Clinton is a "good guy." He's no better than any other politician, and that's where the rub lies. The Press has jumped him over and over for the very same thing that every other president has done, and has acted as though it's a terrible thing because Clinton did it, but when the others did it, it was just "one of those things." It's the sheer hypocrisy that boils me. It doesn't seem to bother anyone else. Don't you see that the press is on Clinton's payroll, they work for him. They hide his truly despicable behavior behind his sexual escapades. They tried to hide the fact that he took campaign contributions (bribes) from the Red Chinese (our enemy) and in return he gave them super computers, access to satellite communications, cryptographic information, etc, then he tried to cover it up ... if this was not wrong why did he try to hide it? Not only that, but he has tried to give the Red Chinese a base on US soil. What about the files (over 700) some FBI files, some IRS files that was in his possesion, one person in the Nixon administration went to jail for possesion of just one file, is Clinton above the law? Moreover Clinton has reduced the military to a skeleton force ... Is he setting us up for an attack/invasion by his Communist buddies in Red China? And, why did Clinton dishonor this country by renting out the Lincoln bedroom to people that donated to his campaign, this person (I wouldn't call him a man) abuses the office of the President every chance he gets. Clinton's mistress was a sin against humanity, but Bush's was just a nice lady he knew exceptionally well. Clinton's possible pot smoking was the worst thing that ever happened, but Kennedy's was just a little relaxation. The firing of Billy Dale was the most heinous act ever committed, and he was perfectly innocent. Okay? But if the people you work for let you take the funds home and put them into your personal bank account, then you have a very unusual employer. I don't personally like Clinton. As I said, I'm a Democrat. I don't think he is. I just don't see why he should be held accountable for things that have been winked at and are still being winked at for everybody else. Bush didn't have his mistress give him blowjobs in the oval office. Bush didn't force innumerable females to have sex with him against their will. Why is it all the Clintonites have to bring up someone else and change the subject when the discussion is about their beloved Zipperboy? You can't defend him, that's why! As I remember I challenged the Clinton supporters to give me five, only five things that he had done that were good for the country. The answers I got were "he wasn't a Republican," a pregnacy leave (one good thing), and silence ... silence because he hasn't done any good in the 6 1/2 years he's been in office. Read, learn, the Republicans and Democrats are the same party, we are a one party system ... the rich enslaving the poor and the less rich through the use of corporate empires and highly restrictive government regulations on the people of this country and small business to further their corporate empire. Behind it all is the filthy rich bankers that control our very lives and control little wimps like Clinton and Bush. Money talks and these bankers control the Federal Reserve and issue money only to those corporate interests that will further their enslavement of the world Do you remember when he put out the fire in the little girl's hair? It happened the first Christmas that he was in office. He did it quickly and in a very nice way. I just happened to be watching television when it happened. The Press never said a word about it, and it sure didn't make the papers. Why, probably because they had already signed the agreement that they would never say a good word about Clinton. I didn't see that, I was in Germany at the time where we only had one channel, the military channel where
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Prudy, Clinton would probably be a lot of fun in social situations. He is well-spoken and I am sure has very nice manners. One just has to keep in mind at all times that most sociopaths do. Being totally devoid of emotions except those self-serving can allow them to adapt to every circumstance ala Ted Bundy. My only point in getting into this pointless discussion is that the media is generally accepted as very liberally biased. They have allowed this administration to commit horrendous crimes with impunity. Secondly, finding Clinton greatly lacking does not mean that a person is a Republican and believes the days of Reagan/Bush were wonderful as you keep bringing up. It is just that they were less awful than the current administration. We have a leadership crisis in this country and have had for many years. It has not been well led with possibly a couple of exceptions--only possible exceptions--since the depression. Certainly FDR in retrospect must look different than he did at the time. Spin and spin again until the people are so dizzy we do not know what is happening. Over and over, the govt is the puppet of the money entities--all are used by greater powers that span terms in office and national boundaries. It is not so simplistic as Democrats are good/Republicans are Bad. Amelia - Original Message - From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] "Press is more ethical and less biased than ever?" (fwd) -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/05/1999 9:07:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Clinton is a liar, a pervert, an adulterer, a socialist and a failure as a leader. But you haven't said whether you like him or not. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Well, too bad Clinton did not "put out the fire" in the hair of the little girls at WACO that his Henchbitch Reno burned to death while spraying them with a cyanide substance. Oh, but their mothers were supposed to run outside (and be shot!) with them, weren't they? To the "mooning" (keep in mind this is a religious compound) BATF agents! Some were shot running out the back according to recent reports. Could that be why they decided not to make too much of his heroic efforts for the cameras? It begs for the glaring comparison. Amelia - Original Message - From: Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] "Press is more ethical and less biased than ever?" (fwd) -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-07-05 07:46:00 EDT, you write: I'm against anyone lying at any time. I'm against anyone fudging the truth any time. If you look at the definition of sodomy, you will see that "technically" Clinton did not lie (at that time). sod*omy (noun) [Middle English, from Old French sodomie, from Late Latin Sodoma Sodom; from the homosexual proclivities of the men of the city in Gen 19:1-11] First appeared 13th Century 1 : copulation with a member of the same sex or with an animal 2 : noncoital and esp. anal or oral copulation with a member of the opposite sex -- sod*om*it*ic or sod*om*it*i*cal (adjective) Seems to me that definition number 2 is sodomy and Clinton is guilty of this with Monica and dozens of other females, some of which did not do this act willingly, and some of which are now dead. That seems to be what our country is now all about. All politicians seem to lie, and most of them lie all the time. It has never been my contention that Clinton is a "good guy." He's no better than any other politician, and that's where the rub lies. The Press has jumped him over and over for the very same thing that every other president has done, and has acted as though it's a terrible thing because Clinton did it, but when the others did it, it was just "one of those things." It's the sheer hypocrisy that boils me. It doesn't seem to bother anyone else. Don't you see that the press is on Clinton's payroll, they work for him. They hide his truly despicable behavior behind his sexual escapades. They tried to hide the fact that he took campaign contributions (bribes) from the Red Chinese (our enemy) and in return he gave them super computers, access to satellite communications, cryptographic information, etc, then he tried to cover it up ... if this was not wrong why did he try to hide it? Not only that, but he has tried to give the Red Chinese a base on US soil. What about the files (over 700) some FBI files, some IRS files that was in his possesion, one person in the Nixon administration went to jail for possesion of just one file, is Clinton above the law? Moreover Clinton has reduced the military to a skeleton force ... Is he setting us up for an attack/invasion by his Communist buddies in Red China? And, why did Clinton dishonor this country by renting out the Lincoln bedroom to people that donated to his campaign, this person (I wouldn't call him a man) abuses the office of the President every chance he gets. Clinton's mistress was a sin against humanity, but Bush's was just a nice lady he knew exceptionally well. Clinton's possible pot smoking was the worst thing that ever happened, but Kennedy's was just a little relaxation. The firing of Billy Dale was the most heinous act ever committed, and he was perfectly innocent. Okay? But if the people you work for let you take the funds home and put them into your personal bank account, then you have a very unusual employer. I don't personally like Clinton. As I said, I'm a Democrat. I don't think he is. I just don't see why he should be held accountable for things that have been winked at and are still being winked at for everybody else. Bush didn't have his mistress give him blowjobs in the oval office. Bush didn't force innumerable females to have sex with him against their will. Why is it all the Clintonites have to bring up someone else and change the subject when the discussion is about their beloved Zipperboy? You can't defend him, that's why! As I remember I challenged the Clinton supporters to give me five, only five things that he had done that were good for the country. The answers I got were "he wasn't a Republican," a pregnacy leave (one good thing), and silence ... silence because he hasn't done any good in the 6 1/2 years he's been in office. Read, learn, the Republicans and Democrats are the same party, we are a one party system ... the rich enslaving the poor and the less rich through the use of corporate empires and highly restrictive government re
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 7/5/99 7:46:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's the sheer hypocrisy that boils me. Sorry Prudy, you miss the mark again. It is not a question of whether it is hypocrisy, which it clearly is. But it is now a question of just because we let the other scum get away with it should we ALSO let Clinton get away with it too? As you know I am no fan of Reagan, or Bush or any other politician, but Clinton should in NO WAY be defended, because the underlying issue should be when are we as a people going to finally say enough is enough? Clinton is scum and is unworthy of the office, no one who came before has anything to do with how we treat him. Judge him on his own (de)merits. IMO, the whole sex issue is a non-issue and should never have been delved into in such ridiculous ways (as I've already stated before, if he was screwing his dog on his off duty hours that's his business and none of mine), the fact that it may have interfered with his doing his job is important, but it is a lesser issue than the other crap he has done or allowed to happen while in office. The fact that Bush got away with something, and Reagan got away with something, or that the press is biased, or the "right wingers" are in control have nothing to do with the issue of President Clinton and judging his actions while in office and making a determination as to his fitness. Just because Bush did it and got away with it unscathed is no reason to LET IT CONTINUE with Clinton. Hey maybe Bush killed someone sometime (he might have had a hand in the Kennedy assassination after all), and he got away with it. I guess that means that if Clinton did the same thing we should just let him go, because it would be hypocrisy to go after him when no one raised a stink over Bush's actions? I guess it would just be stupid to all of the sudden decide: "Hey! We got laws how about we hold the President accountable to them?" I guess we should NEVER finally wake up and say enough is enough huh? We should just judge everyone based on how they judged Reagan. Reagan was old and had Alzheimer's so just cover up and forget all the crap he allowed to happen under his watch. Same for Clinton, and everyone else who comes to office in the future. No more hypocrisy for me. They're ALL innocent and should just be left alone. Or are we just using this standard for Democrats who are elected President? Teo1000 DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Perhaps the Republicans got the idea to make such a big deal out of every little thing from the Democrats' handling of the Watergate Investigation. One of Nixon's staff went to prison for having a single FBI file in his possession. Not nearly enough has been made of the 1000+ that just appeared in the White House under current administration. I think I would prefer Watergate to Chinagate any day Now there is a subject I want to know more about. I doubt that every little thing has been brought out concerning Clinton's sexual activities. Granted, a bit graphic on the one known to have occurred in the Oval Office involving a very young intern. It would appear that may have been the least of his wrong-doings. Was information from the 1000 FBI files given to Larry Flynnt to blackmail all members of congress as suggested? Just what were they doing with those files? I think Clinton got off extremely lightly on that and apparently everything else he has done. At least Nixon has the decency to resign. Amelia - Original Message - From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 03, 1999 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] "Press is more ethical and less biased than ever?" (fwd) -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/03/1999 3:41:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to the survey, nearly two-thirds of the public thinks the press should not be allowed to probe the private lives of public officials. And shrinking numbers of respondents think the news media should be allowed to endorse political candidates, report government secrets or use hidden cameras. I must belong to the other third. I didn't think it was right for the press to dig out every sex act that Clinton ever got a chance at, but now that they have set the precedent, I want them to continue. I want to know everything about everyone. Until the Republicans told me (over, and over, and over, and again over) how important it was that I know that any candidate for the presidency of the United States had experience with illegal drugs, had a mistress (how much he paid his mistress), what the mistress thought of him, had sex outside of marriage, and if and how he might have been in the armed services, I didn't realize how important it was that I have full detail on these matters. I want it all. I want to know if he sassed a teacher in fourth grade. Let's see. Now looking for ethics in the press is a really tough job, but we do have Ivins and Hightower. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/04/1999 4:19:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps the Republicans got the idea to make such a big deal out of every little thing from the Democrats' handling of the Watergate Investigation. One of Nixon's staff went to prison for having a single FBI file in his possession. Not nearly enough has been made of the 1000+ that just appeared in the White House under current administration. I think I would prefer Watergate to Chinagate any day Now there is a subject I want to know more about. Bringing up Democrats and Watergate seems an odd challenge to the Press and Clinton matter. I happened to be rather fond of old Nixon, and I guess I'm a Democrat. Sometimes I'm not sure. Still it was Nixon's own party that brought him down. Bob Woodward is as conservative as anyone can get. His family were conservatives before him. The cub reporter everyone pretends Woodward is never existed. He was a briefing officer at the White House when he decided to give up his Navy commission and join the Washington Post. He was hired immediately although he was really not a good writer and had no experience as a journalist for a major newspaper. He was a Yale grad, just like the Bush guys, and while he didn't make Skull and Bones, he was taken into Book and Snake which is almost as choice. He's the guy who took Nixon out, and he is not now nor has he ever been a Democrat. Nixon made some great strides in protecting the environment. Lots of Democrats I knew really liked him. It was his own party that took him out when he mutinied against his controllers. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- My point was not Woodward, but the press in general--media at large, so to speak. TO this day, the name Nixon=crook, cover-up, scandal, etc. The man was driven out of office for his sins while Clinton is on TV shaking his finger in our faces while lying and nothing happens to him. I, too, liked Nixon for getting us out of VietNam if nothing else. My point is that the Democrats use the media every bit as well if not better than the Republicans. Unless something drastic has happened that I have failed to notice, the last polls I saw stated that the media (TV reporters/major newspaper and magazine writers) were something like 80% liberal in their actual voting. I cannot bring the survey to mind but if needed could find it. With this sort of "friends" doing the bulk of reporting, I find an almost consistent liberal/Democratic party bias to the news. Newt Gingrich was thoroughly vilified in the press in every conceivable manner. I think there was a choice made--charge Clinton on the sex thing or the China thing and the sex thing was chosen as the far lesser of the two. A conspiracy within a conspiracy but Starr has his own China connections to worry about becoming too public. I my lifetime I he never seen a more morally bankrupt administration--not even close. Yet, the have remain the media darlings and get very little negative coverage. Some of the things such as Clinton's Russia Tour would have been made much of before his election if it had not been for this blanket of protection afforded him personally and most Democrats/liberals in general. That's what I think and that's what I know. :) Amelia - Original Message - From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 1999 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] "Press is more ethical and less biased than ever?" (fwd) -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/04/1999 4:19:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps the Republicans got the idea to make such a big deal out of every little thing from the Democrats' handling of the Watergate Investigation. One of Nixon's staff went to prison for having a single FBI file in his possession. Not nearly enough has been made of the 1000+ that just appeared in the White House under current administration. I think I would prefer Watergate to Chinagate any day Now there is a subject I want to know more about. Bringing up Democrats and Watergate seems an odd challenge to the Press and Clinton matter. I happened to be rather fond of old Nixon, and I guess I'm a Democrat. Sometimes I'm not sure. Still it was Nixon's own party that brought him down. Bob Woodward is as conservative as anyone can get. His family were conservatives before him. The cub reporter everyone pretends Woodward is never existed. He was a briefing officer at the White House when he decided to give up his Navy commission and join the Washington Post. He was hired immediately although he was really not a good writer and had no experience as a journalist for a major newspaper. He was a Yale grad, just like the Bush guys, and while he didn't make Skull and Bones, he was taken into Book and Snake which is almost as choice. He's the guy who took Nixon out, and he is not now nor has he ever been a Democrat. Nixon made some great strides in protecting the environment. Lots of Democrats I knew really liked him. It was his own party that took him out when he mutinied against his controllers. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by differe
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/04/1999 5:41:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My point was not Woodward, but the press in general--media at large, so to speak. TO this day, the name Nixon=crook, cover-up, scandal, etc. The man was driven out of office for his sins while Clinton is on TV shaking his finger in our faces while lying and nothing happens to him Nixon's sin was in refusing to heed the directions of his managers - the THEY we always hear of and speak of. I've never known why they made such a big deal of it in the press, except they ALWAYS heed the directions of their managers. This may surprise you, but Clinton didn't actually lie. I thought he did, until an old country preacher called C-SPAN and spoke just a few lines. I don't think the old guy was a Clinton supporter, and neither Brian Lamb or his guest of the day understood what the old man said. I did, and I almost fell off the couch. Remember all that talk of definitions? Well all the old man said after he identified his profession in an ancient and creaky voice was, "You know, the Bible makes it very clear in both Genesis and (I can't remember the other name) that there is a big difference between sex and sodomy. I went into my office and looked up "sodomy." He was right, and technically Clinton did not lie. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-07-04 19:42:25 EDT, you write: This may surprise you, but Clinton didn't actually lie. I thought he did, until an old country preacher called C-SPAN and spoke just a few lines. I don't think the old guy was a Clinton supporter, and neither Brian Lamb or his guest of the day understood what the old man said. I did, and I almost fell off the couch. Remember all that talk of definitions? Well all the old man said after he identified his profession in an ancient and creaky voice was, "You know, the Bible makes it very clear in both Genesis and (I can't remember the other name) that there is a big difference between sex and sodomy. I went into my office and looked up "sodomy." He was right, and technically Clinton did not lie. Prudy Who is telling the lies now? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Prudy, Are you saying Clinton did not lie at that particular time or has not lied at all? I remember his saying that if a score card had been kept, he would have gotten a pretty good score because he had told the truth to the American people more than he had lied to them. His own words. That may be just peachy with you but for some of us, it is not good enough. Some of us are against lying all the time. My son works for the govt in DC (sad sign) and his girlfriend was not to be in his apartment unattended. They cannot get married until her security clearance is final. I do not discuss his work (I do not ask and he does not tell) because he is given a polygraph test routinely. If he had married the girl before security clearance was through he could have gone to jail! So why is the Leader of the Free World entitled to more privacy than this peon-level kid of mine? You get in about 20 free pot shots at the Republicans before anybody says anything, Prudy. How many do you feel you are entitled to have? Amelia PS When you have to get that technical over lie/truth, you have lost the meaning of the question anyway. Depends on how you define "is." Guess he would have carried on with not having sex with Monica if Hillary followed by the entire press corps had entered the room, huh? - Original Message - From: Prudence L. Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 1999 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] "Press is more ethical and less biased than ever?" (fwd) -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/04/1999 5:41:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My point was not Woodward, but the press in general--media at large, so to speak. TO this day, the name Nixon=crook, cover-up, scandal, etc. The man was driven out of office for his sins while Clinton is on TV shaking his finger in our faces while lying and nothing happens to him Nixon's sin was in refusing to heed the directions of his managers - the THEY we always hear of and speak of. I've never known why they made such a big deal of it in the press, except they ALWAYS heed the directions of their managers. This may surprise you, but Clinton didn't actually lie. I thought he did, until an old country preacher called C-SPAN and spoke just a few lines. I don't think the old guy was a Clinton supporter, and neither Brian Lamb or his guest of the day understood what the old man said. I did, and I almost fell off the couch. Remember all that talk of definitions? Well all the old man said after he identified his profession in an ancient and creaky voice was, "You know, the Bible makes it very clear in both Genesis and (I can't remember the other name) that there is a big difference between sex and sodomy. I went into my office and looked up "sodomy." He was right, and technically Clinton did not lie. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Th
[CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- "We The People" are so ignorant it hurts. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 22:59:37 -0400 From: Jay A [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Press is more ethical and less biased ? Paulson says that in fact, the press is more ethical and less biased than ever. 07/02/99- Updated 03:53 PM ET Poll: Less support for freedom of the press By Tony Mauro, USA TODAY ARLINGTON, Va. - On the eve of the Fourth of July weekend, a new nationwide opinion poll shows a sharp erosion of public support for press freedom and an unchanged level of enthusiasm for outlawing desecration of the American flag. The poll, released Friday by the Freedom Forum, a pro-First Amendment foundation, indicates that 53% of respondents think the press has too much freedom in this country, up from 38% in 1997. Seventy-four percent of respondents think people should not be allowed to burn the American flag, but only 51% think the Constitution should be amended to prohibit it, up 2 percentage points from 1997. The telephone poll of 1,001 adults in February and March has a sampling error of +/- 3 percentage points. According to the survey, nearly two-thirds of the public thinks the press should not be allowed to probe the private lives of public officials. And shrinking numbers of respondents think the news media should be allowed to endorse political candidates, report government secrets or use hidden cameras. "Freedom of the press has been synonymous in the public's mind for the last two years with Monica and Bill and Princess Di and Marv Albert," says Ken Paulson of the Freedom Forum's First Amendment Center. "It's time for the best qualities of American journalism to come to the fore." Paulson says that in fact, the press is more ethical and less biased than ever. "There's a great disconnect here." Media lawyer Bruce Sanford, author of Don't Shoot the Messenger, a new book on public attitudes toward the media, says, "The public is so angry at the media these days that we are beginning to blind ourselves to the biggest threat, which is not the media but government regulation." The news media have brought much of the criticism on themselves, conservative columnist Armstrong Williams says. "The face of American journalism has changed from that of a stony-faced, dispassionate anchor to two sides screaming at each other." He said the press has lost its image as a champion of the people. The poll found a few bright spots for the media, however. The percentage of those who think that Internet speech enjoys the same protection as the printed press went up from 56% two years ago to 64%. Support for broadcast coverage of courts including the Supreme Court also rose, compared with 1997. On religious freedom, also guaranteed by the First Amendment, nearly two-thirds of respondents said public school teachers should be allowed to lead prayers in school. Many people polled showed little knowledge about First Amendment freedoms. Forty-nine percent could not name any of the rights guaranteed by the First Amendment. Once reminded that it protects freedom of the press, speech, religion, assembly and petition, two-thirds of respondents said the First Amendment does not go too far. "A poll like this shows the worst of the problems of the First Amendment," said Carole Shields of the liberal organization People for the American Way. "But when people really consider these issues, we come out OK." = Kaddish, Kaddish, Kaddish, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research
Re: [CTRL] Press is more ethical and less biased than ever? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 07/03/1999 3:41:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to the survey, nearly two-thirds of the public thinks the press should not be allowed to probe the private lives of public officials. And shrinking numbers of respondents think the news media should be allowed to endorse political candidates, report government secrets or use hidden cameras. I must belong to the other third. I didn't think it was right for the press to dig out every sex act that Clinton ever got a chance at, but now that they have set the precedent, I want them to continue. I want to know everything about everyone. Until the Republicans told me (over, and over, and over, and again over) how important it was that I know that any candidate for the presidency of the United States had experience with illegal drugs, had a mistress (how much he paid his mistress), what the mistress thought of him, had sex outside of marriage, and if and how he might have been in the armed services, I didn't realize how important it was that I have full detail on these matters. I want it all. I want to know if he sassed a teacher in fourth grade. Let's see. Now looking for ethics in the press is a really tough job, but we do have Ivins and Hightower. Prudy DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
