Re: [CTRL] WALL STREET JOURNAL Stonewall, Mr. Bush

1999-08-26 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 08/21/1999 3:14:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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   How anyone with the least amount of intelligence can seriosly consider
him
 to lead this country is beyond me.
 If he is elected President, what you'll see is this country go to hell even
 more than now. 

I think it is "like" calling to "like".  This guy is a klutz.  Maybe that's
what Americans admire.  Otherwise it is just a puzzle.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] WALL STREET JOURNAL Stonewall, Mr. Bush

1999-08-21 Thread John Szocik

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The allegation should not go away-just G.W. Bush!
  How anyone with the least amount of intelligence can seriosly consider him
to lead this country is beyond me.
If he is elected President, what you'll see is this country go to hell even
more than now. Why? Old GW would have many a pay back to take care of.
Clinton sold-out our military to China, can you imagine what the hell this
spoiled-brat will do once in office?
I implore all voters to really think about this guy,we, as a nation can not
afford to have a thieving(remember the SLs he got hundreds of millions
from,and NEVER PAID BACK!)  coke sniffing liar in the White House,-AGAIN! One
is enough for this country to put up with, do we have to be embarressed and
laughed at again by the rest of the world?!
Please, please let's use our heads this time. If you don't like the current
candidates, then write-in one on your ballot, you have that right! Show this
country that we've had enough of these incompetent so-called leaders.
Our Constitution has been slowly taken away from us, little by little,. so
the average person does not notice. Elect GW, and I guarantee you, a lot more
will disappear over the four years he's in office. Remember, he's got plenty
of pay-back to take care of,  AT OUR EXPENSE!
Think really hard about it-JOHN

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Re: [CTRL] WALL STREET JOURNAL Stonewall, Mr. Bush

1999-08-21 Thread K

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 Please, please let's use our heads this time. If you don't like the
 current candidates, then write-in one on your ballot, you have that
 right!

It's been a long time since I saw anything other than a
computerized voting machine.  Not much chance for a write-in
there.


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[CTRL] WALL STREET JOURNAL Stonewall, Mr. Bush

1999-08-20 Thread K

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Stonewall, Mr. Bush
By Peggy Noonan
WALL STREET JOURNAL 8/20/99
It was 1948, and Harry Truman, who assumed the presidency on
the death of FDR three years before, was running as the
Democratic nominee for president. It was a tough, close race. His
opponent, and the favorite, was New York Gov. Thomas E. Dewey,
a more or less liberal Republican and a man of such compact
tidiness that Alice Roosevelt's description of him--"He looks like
the little man on the wedding cake"--clung to him forever.
You probably remember what happened in that campaign, which
was painfully low and dirty. Dewey's operatives floated the rumor
that in the 1920s, when Truman was a young man in Missouri, he
had regularly frequented speakeasies. This was during Prohibition,
so if it was true young Truman had broken the law.
The rumors spread like fire. One said he regularly sipped whiskey
with Mike Pendergast in the speakeasy on 12th Street and Vine.
Another said no, that wasn't Mike Pendergast, that was Harry's
wife, Bess. (Republicans were very rude in those days.) Anyway,
for weeks it was all anyone could talk about in Manhattan and
Washington.
Truman at first refused to respond to the rumors, saying it was all
part of an attempt by the conservative newspaper establishment to
darken his reputation. But the press persisted, and the peppery
Truman finally lost his temper. Out on a morning constitutional
along Pennsylvania Avenue, he stopped, turned toward the small
band of reporters who were following him, pointed his cane in the
direction of the White House and spat out what came to be known
as the Whiskey Statement. "We are in the middle of a serious
contest over who will live in that house and lead our country the
next four years, and all you people want to know is whether I drank
whiskey as a young man. Joe Stalin is taking over Eastern Europe,
and you want to know if I drank whiskey. The Negroes of the
Southern states are asking for an equal place in our schools, and
you want to know if I drank whiskey. We've got charges of
communists stealing the A-bomb, and you want to know if I drank
whiskey. Well let me ask you--Mr. Rogers of the Herald Tribune
there--did you drink whiskey during Prohibition?"
"No," said Rogers firmly.
There was silence, and then Rogers cleared his throat.
"I was a gin man," he said. Everyone laughed.
"I liked a Gibson now and then," said a voice from the back of the
pack. It was Mr. Reston of the Times.
"It was more than now and then," laughed Walter Lippman, who
offered that while he rarely went to speakeasies, he always carried
a flask. "In fact," he said, "I still do."
He took it from his back pocket, and it shone like bright money in
the sun. The burnished silver carried an inscription: "To Walter,
with affection from Eleanor and Franklin."
"Let me see that," said Truman. He opened it, sniffed, and winked.
"To the Republic," he said as he took a drink.
"To the Republic," the reporters said as they passed the bottle.
"And now let us talk of the challenges that threaten the peace of
our country," Truman said as he led them back to the White
House. "Let's keep it high and worthy. And let's never discuss that
other again."
And you know, they didn't.
And Truman won.
***
Oh dear, I appear to have made that up. Which is very wicked of
me, as alcohol isn't drugs, and of course alcohol is now legal and
drugs are not, so it doesn't quite compare to . . . today, and our
latest drug story involving a candidate for office, Gov. George W.
Bush.
And of course the story I made up could never have happened,
because reporters in Harry Truman's day wouldn't have considered
it a story that young Harry broke the law and went to a speakeasy.
They wouldn't think it implied anything. And not because President
Harding, during Prohibition, drank whiskey in the office while
playing poker. That wasn't the reason.
The reason, I think, was that things were a little more human then,
back in the old America. Human beings seem to have had more
space for normal failings. They were allowed to smoke cigarettes
even though everyone knew they were bad for you; they were
allowed to drink, and to be eccentric, and to wear woolen suit
jackets in the summertime.
They were like the people you see in old movies starring Humphrey
Bogart and Spencer Tracy. Recently Tracy's "State of the Union"
was on, and one of the great things about it was that Tracy, who
plays an independent candidate for president, is rumored to be
having a fling, as they used to say, with his press aide, played in a
really deadly this-is-really-Clare-Booth-Luce way by the young
Angela Lansbury. And the fling, though gossiped about, doesn't
become public even though everyone knows about it, because it
was simply understood people are imperfect and do not-wonderful
things.
I guess I should note here that Tracy and Ms. Lansbury were
having what used to be called a love affair. It wasn't a story about
some sick manipulator