Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Cain and Abel: True Model For Progressive Thought]
-Caveat Lector- Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The true nature of revolution is revealed in a recent book by Frank J. Sulloway, "Born To Rebel." (New York: Random House, 1996. ISBN: 0-679-44232-4.) Sullowayargues that rebelliousness is statistically discernable by Darwinian niche. snip Statistical evidence that the true revolutionaries tend to be the later borns; that the first-borns tend to identify with authority. snip With all due respect, this is so much hogwash. I have Sulloway's book; I've read part of it, but didn't finish it. I am a first-born. My wife is a first-born. In each of our families, we were the rebels, the ones who resisted the established order; it was our younger siblings who succeeded academically and moved into positions of authority in society. "Success," as the world measures success, has been a long time coming for us...but we have accumulated lots of scars in the struggle against the Oligarchy and its minions. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. More than just email--Get your FREE Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/netcenter/mail DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Cain and Abel: True Model For Progressive Thought]
-Caveat Lector- Robert Tatman wrote: -Caveat Lector- Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The true nature of revolution is revealed in a recent book by Frank J. Sulloway, "Born To Rebel." (New York: Random House, 1996. ISBN: 0-679-44232-4.) Sullowayargues that rebelliousness is statistically discernable by Darwinian niche. snip Statistical evidence that the true revolutionaries tend to be the later borns; that the first-borns tend to identify with authority. snip With all due respect, this is so much hogwash. I have Sulloway's book; I've read part of it, but didn't finish it. I am a first-born. My wife is a first-born. In each of our families, we were the rebels, the ones who resisted the established order; it was our younger siblings who succeeded academically and moved into positions of authority in society. "Success," as the world measures success, has been a long time coming for us...but we have accumulated lots of scars in the struggle against the Oligarchy and its minions. Bob I also question the first born/later born theory. In my family I am the oldest of three males. In terms of "radicalness" I would say that my youngest brother is most radical, my younger brother least, and I am some where in the middle closest to my youngest brother. In some ways, though, I may be more radical then he. best wishes, Howard Davis DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [[CTRL] Cain and Abel: True Model For Progressive Thought]
-Caveat Lector- On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Robert Tatman wrote: -Caveat Lector- Brian Redman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The true nature of revolution is revealed in a recent book by Frank J. Sulloway, "Born To Rebel." (New York: Random House, 1996. ISBN: 0-679-44232-4.) Sullowayargues that rebelliousness is statistically discernable by Darwinian niche. snip Statistical evidence that the true revolutionaries tend to be the later borns; that the first-borns tend to identify with authority. snip With all due respect, this is so much hogwash. I have Sulloway's book; I've read part of it, but didn't finish it. I am a first-born. My wife is a first-born. In each of our families, we were the rebels, the ones who resisted the established order; it was our younger siblings who succeeded academically and moved into positions of authority in society. "Success," as the world measures success, has been a long time coming for us...but we have accumulated lots of scars in the struggle against the Oligarchy and its minions. Since you've read some of Sulloway's book, you must know that Sulloway does not claim there are no exceptions to his firstborn/later-born findings. You'll probably remember that Sulloway analyzes biographical information via statistics, and that his statistics always show correlation but never 100 percent correlation. "Rhea Fortean", a key contributor to CNNS also happens to be a firstborn yet in her case, as well as yours, she proves the exception to the rule. That doesn't negate Sulloway's "rule of thumb," since he never claims it's always true. Brian Redman Editor, Conspiracy Nation News Service DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
