Re: [CTRL] [ctrl] Is It Really It?
-Caveat Lector- From: dig Lola Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] it's obviously been developed by geeks who live on a mountaintop in New Hampshire I beg your pardon I happen to be one of these geeks on the mountain top in NH Don't get your panties in a twist; I'm not slamming geeks per se, nor people who live in rural areas (whether mountain tops or otherwise)...I was slamming a particular set of rural geeks who obviously have no clue about urban life but are pushing a very expensive toy as a 'solution' to city life... And hey, we're not going to have street punks stealing these things at knife and/or gun point, right? Wow, you don't like the geeks from the mountain tops and you don't like the punks in the streets... Punks who rob people at gun or knife point, no I guess I DON'T like them...do YOU? what in the world do you do for fun If you think getting robbed at gun or knife point 'fun', be my guestI'll pass, tho... and who in the world do you do it with Boy oh boy. You missed the whole point of my post; what I'm objecting to is Kamen et al presuming to say they have a 'solution' to urban life, when they obviously don't have a single clue as to what urban life is about. To me it's just all a marketing scam to sell his expensive toy. When he gets around to marketing a model for the general public, it is said they will cost around $3000 -- that means it will be toy for rich yuppies, and will be used perhaps in midtown Manhattan and its equivalent in other cities by rich stockbrokers and investment bakers to get from the train station to work, and then back at the rich, exclusive (and I DO mean 'exclusive' in it's complete meaning) suburban bedroom communities they live in. Regular working-class folks who are living paycheck-to-paycheck, and especially poor people, living in the city itself won't be able to afford it... Kamen is touting it as a 'solution' to city life (which presumes a 'solution' is needed), when in fact when it comes to the general consumer market one will mostly find it being used in rich suburban communities, because those are the only people who will have both a need for it and the funds to afford it. Rich people in the city will have no need for it, because the existing modes of transport are more than adequate for their needs... A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [ctrl] Is It Really It?
-Caveat Lector- On 4 Dec 01, at 10:46, RevCOAL wrote: Regular working-class folks who are living paycheck-to-paycheck, and especially poor people, living in the city itself won't be able to afford it... The same could be said for autos, which are far more expensive. Anyway, the poor have buses and bikes. Nothing wrong with waking, it's still good for you last I heard. Steve If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. -GW Bush during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on 12/18/2000. As broadcast on CNN and available in transcript on their website http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html Steve Wingate, Webmaster ANOMALOUS IMAGES AND UFO FILES http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [ctrl] Is It Really It?
-Caveat Lector- Hey Rev... Wasn't objecting to the actual substance of your post, just the rather nasty tone My panties I hereby untwisted. : ) Lola From: dig Lola Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] it's obviously been developed by geeks who live on a mountaintop in New Hampshire I beg your pardon I happen to be one of these geeks on the mountain top in NH Don't get your panties in a twist; I'm not slamming geeks per se, nor people who live in rural areas (whether mountain tops or otherwise)...I was slamming a particular set of rural geeks who obviously have no clue about urban life but are pushing a very expensive toy as a 'solution' to city life... And hey, we're not going to have street punks stealing these things at knife and/or gun point, right? Wow, you don't like the geeks from the mountain tops and you don't like the punks in the streets... A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [ctrl] Is It Really It?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 12/3/01 12:06:56 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it's obviously been developed by geeks who live on a mountaintop in New Hampshire I beg your pardon I happen to be one of these geeks on the mountain top in NH And hey, we're not going to have street punks stealing these things at knife and/or gun point, right? Wow, you don't like the geeks from the mountain tops and you don't like the punks in the streets... what in the world do you do for fun and who in the world do you do it with Boy oh boy. A HREF=http://www.ctrl.org/;www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF=http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html;Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF=http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/;ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om