Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, Control Fiends and Pedophiles
-Caveat Lector- Many people would define the homosexual lifestyle as one of promiscuity. Those are people who've never met anyone who's homosexual...I've known and worked with heterosexuals who were far more 'promiscuous' than the homosexuals I've known and worked with... The reason for this is that homosexuals seem to be like the legendary "Peter Pan." Again, I've known far more heterosexual "Peter Pan"s than homosexual... and in fact, the "Peter Pan Syndrome", when first coined, referred to HETEROsexual men who treat women either as "Wendys" or "Tinkerbells"... The person who wrote this homophobic diatribe is an idiot. By refusing to commit to someone of the opposite sex, they normally do not have to worry about the responsibility of children, Bull. Many homosexuals have previously been married, and have children. Many heterosexuals OTOH choose not to have children...not having children is NOT an indication of irresponsibility, in fact one can argue that by limiting the growth of population, those who choose not to have children are far more 'responsible' than those who do. much less the responsibility of a commitment. Every homoxexual I've known was in a longterm, committed relationship. If homosexual marriages were legalized, you'd see many more such committed relationships... Also if they do decide to break off the relationship they normally do not have to worry about the legal tangles of divorce. This is true...which is why you find many HETEROsexual couples opting for the same... Should admitted homosexuals that are seen as promiscuous, unable to make commitments, and unwilling to take on responsibility for other people be allowed to serve in the military? Should HETEROsexuals WHO (the correct grammar, BTW) are seen as promiscuous, unable to make commitments, and unwilling to take on responsibility for other people be allowed to serve in the military? One COULD argue that such self-centered people, no matter their sexual orientation, could make a BETTER soldier, as they wouldn't be 'hindered' by caring thoughts for fellow men and women... Also, the ancient Spartans, feared by their enemies as an extremely brutual and efficient army, ENCOURAGED homosexual relationships amongst the troops, as they believed it fostered a deep camraderie for one's fellow soldier, a camraderie which translated into the desire not only to attack the mutual enemy, but to defend one's lover as willingly as one would defend oneself. BTW, there have ALWAYS been homosexuals in the U.S. military... What kind of person do you want to depend on? Would you rather depend on someone that is willing to take on commitments of religion and family, Such as Bill Clinton? :-7 The military image requires that the people of the military be true to the most stringent standards that their culture has. If you can not take pride yourself and your own culture, how can you understand the pride that someone else has in their culture. This is the same argument that was used to justify keeping blacks out of the military, keeping Hispanics out of the military, keeping women out of the miliatary, etcit is the standard argument which is raised whenever ANY minority request equal rights under the law... True homosexuals have decided what sex they are and what life style they want to follow. And what, pray tell, do homosexuals do that heterosexuals don't do also? True homosexuals have seldom if ever been known to rape a heterosexual. TRUE homosexuals rarely commit rape, period. These controlling personalities are really in the closet! Because if the real truth were known, they usually are willing to have sex with any person - male or female of any age. Then they are bisexual, not homosexual and not heterosexual... These control fiends are the type to have a physical relationship with a single or divorce mother and also think nothing of having a relationship with here male OR female child. Anyone having sex with a child is a pedophile...which has absolutely NOTHING to do with normal homosexuality, bisexuality, or heterosexuality... A man having sex with a little boy is no more indicative of normal adult homosexuals than a man having sex with a little girl is indicative of normal adult heterosexuals... Some countries have been sympathetic to the American Homosexual. Iceland has an overwhelmingly female population - I think the current ratio is five females births to every one male birth, Citation for such figures? The American homosexual has usually decided that they want few, if any commitments. Then you have obviously never met any. Have you thought what it would be like if the military didn't have a standard. Standards like those displayed at Tailhook? But I guess you APPROVE of heterosexual promiscuity... (c) 1997 by Laura Lee Lanning-Shipton AKA The Pied Piper You are welcome to forward this for non profit purposes, with the copyright intact. The only place this warrants forwarding to is
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, Control Fiends and Pedophiles
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, 1lls0081 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many Homosexuals have a level of self discipline that makes the pope look like a goof off. OK. Maybe I should not go - Quite - that far, but have you seen what it takes for a woman to get dressed up. As a woman, I'm quite aware of 'what it takes', for those of us who CHOOSE to do nothing else but spend time in front of a mirror... Add mysogynist to homophobe... Think of what it takes for a cross dresser. You are such an idiot. Most homosexuals are NOT cross-dressers, indeed most homosexual males do NOT look any different than heterosexual males...and point of fact, a good many HETEROsexual males enjoy cross-dressing Now for the regular, run of the mill person that has a same sex orientation. They are normally not a sadist, or controlling. Well, not any more so than a man that has complete control of a female when he is lying on top of her. Add 'frigid' to mysogynist and homophobe... Some have been lead to believe that they should have been born the opposite sex because of the fact that many animals can switch sexes. Take a laying hen, there have been some that have gone from a fertile hen to a fertile rooster. And I'm sure you can cite a RELIABLE source for the assertion? June *===* The sun was warm but the wind was chill. You know how it is with an April day: When the sun is out and the wind is still, You're one month on in the middle of May. But if you so much as dare to speak, A cloud comes over the sunlit arch, A wind comes off a frozen peak, And you're two months back in the middle of March. -- Robert Frost: Two Tramps in Mudtime *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, Control Fiends and Pedophiles
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Edward Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey let's do this, apply the authors logic to God. I have not seen Him/Her display any responsibility for His/Her creation. ALso consider that he knocked-up a virgin, and left Joseph to raise His child ;-) June *===* The sun was warm but the wind was chill. You know how it is with an April day: When the sun is out and the wind is still, You're one month on in the middle of May. But if you so much as dare to speak, A cloud comes over the sunlit arch, A wind comes off a frozen peak, And you're two months back in the middle of March. -- Robert Frost: Two Tramps in Mudtime *===* *---* revcoal AT connix DOT com *---* It is UNLAWFUL to send unsolicited commercial email to this email address per United States Code Title 47 Sec. 227. I assess a fee of $500.00 US currency for reading and deleting such unsolicited commercial email. Sending such email to this address denotes acceptance of these terms. My posting messages to Usenet neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. ** DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, Control Fiends and Pedophiles
-Caveat Lector- Hey let's do this, apply the authors logic to God. I have not seen Him/Her display any responsibility for His/Her creation. Given His/Her track record, I certainly wouldn't want Him/Her in a foxhole next to me. Not only do I not know His/Her sexuality, He/She has shown no interest what so ever in the workings of mankind, all the way up to and including the death of his/her own son! The authors bias is appalling and an insult to every person on the planet. You just gave it the name "homosexual". If you, 1lls0081 wrote this piece, I urge you to get help. It is bigoted concepts like these that lead to young black men being dragged behind cars, and young gay men to be murdered. Their blood is own your hands. God help you, but then again given your logic, there's a fat chance of that. But in this case, I don't blame Him/Her! eeford 1lls0081 wrote: -Caveat Lector- http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/sci_fi.htm http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/homo.htm Homosexuals in the Military OR Homosexual, Control Fiend, Pedophile Homosexuals: Who or What is Really Hiding in the Closet? (The Military as an Example) Many people would define the homosexual lifestyle as one of promiscuity. The reason for this is that homosexuals seem to be like the legendary "Peter Pan." By refusing to commit to someone of the opposite sex, they normally do not have to worry about the responsibility of children, much less the responsibility of a commitment. Also if they do decide to break off the relationship they normally do not have to worry about the legal tangles of divorce. Should admitted homosexuals that are seen as promiscuous, unable to make commitments, and unwilling to take on responsibility for other people be allowed to serve in the military? In the military you have to trust that the person next to you is Reliable enough that they won't get you killed. The military oath is a promise to defend the country. The contract that you are required to sign upon being accepted into the military is a commitment. Being in the military, means that you are responsible for the people you work with and that they are responsible for you. What kind of person do you want to depend on? Would you rather depend on someone that is willing to take on commitments of religion and family, or would you rather have to depend on someone that has a noncommittal lifestyle. By signing up in the military, you are signing an agreement that allows other people to control your life. So if the people that you are allowing to tell you what to do with your life were to require that you have to live with a person that doesn't seem to care about anything other than themselves, it seems as if the concept of trust and teamwork might get lost. Those same concepts of trust and teamwork are concepts the military can not afford to lose. Often the military is a large part of the first contact that the United States will have with other cultures. Since they often have the responsibility of dealing with people from other cultures, they need to be perceived as stable and responsible. If people in the military, are perceived by other countries as allowed to have idiosyncrasies such as this, will the other countries be enthusiastic about allowing our military to help when they have problems. The military image requires that the people of the military be true to the most stringent standards that their culture has. If you can not take pride yourself and your own culture, how can you understand the pride that someone else has in their culture. True homosexuals have decided what sex they are and what life style they want to follow. True homosexuals have seldom if ever been known to rape a heterosexual. This is usually, if not always done by those that use sex as a control feature. These controlling personalities are really in the closet! Because if the real truth were known, they usually are willing to have sex with any person - male or female of any age. These control fiends are the type to have a physical relationship with a single or divorce mother and also think nothing of having a relationship with here male OR female child. These control fiends are the ones that think that a child (as young as six) is old enough to decide their sexual orientation and to have a physical relationship, at six, based on that design. They refer to the child's parents, as people that have a slave mentality, and that want to keep the child from making an immediate choice. They are the main ones that would like to see homosexuals completely accepted since it will be harder to question these control fiends at that time. Some countries have been sympathetic to the American Homosexual. Iceland has an overwhelmingly female population - I think the current ratio is five females births to every one male birth, and
Re: [CTRL] Homosexuals in the Military:OR Homosexual, Control Fiends and Pedophiles
-Caveat Lector- Edward Ford wrote: -Caveat Lector- Hey let's do this, apply the authors logic to God. I have not seen Him/Her display any responsibility for His/Her creation. Given His/Her track record, I certainly wouldn't want Him/Her in a foxhole next to me. Not only do I not know His/Her sexuality, He/She has shown no interest what so ever in the workings of mankind, all the way up to and including the death of his/her own son! Is it possible to teach people to read? I DID no say that they had or Should leave or be kicked out!!! The authors bias is appalling and an insult to every person on the planet. You just gave it the name "homosexual". Many Homosexuals have a level of self discipline that makes the pope look like a goof off. OK. Maybe I should not go - Quite - that far, but have you seen what it takes for a woman to get dressed up. Think of what it takes for a cross dresser. Many managed to look better than I did when I was in my twenties! If you, 1lls0081 wrote this piece, I urge you to get help. It is bigoted concepts like these that lead to young black men being dragged behind cars, and young gay men to be murdered. Their blood is own your hands. It is people like you that would have the blood of homosexuals on your hands. The ones that would kill homosexuals to make this kind of point are the ones that want the homosexuals to run point for them. The kind of people that "might" read Hustler. God help you, but then again given your logic, there's a fat chance of that. But in this case, I don't blame Him/Her! Now for the regular, run of the mill person that has a same sex orientation. They are normally not a sadist, or controlling. Well, not any more so than a man that has complete control of a female when he is lying on top of her. Would you call the missionary position - Sadistic or controlling? That testosterone should be good for something (up, down - you get the idea) for my view point I think it is workable. Some have been lead to believe that they should have been born the opposite sex because of the fact that many animals can switch sexes. Take a laying hen, there have been some that have gone from a fertile hen to a fertile rooster. Many fish are capable of changing sex as well. Males that produce eggs in their testes, and think that they should have been born female. This can be cause by Organophosphates. Then to the current scoop on chemicals (New 2 Nov 98) http://www.enn.com/news/enn-stories/1998/10/102998/chemical.asp "Concerned that endocrine disrupters were causing fetal development problems and adversely affecting male sperm counts, in 1996 Congress passed the Food Quality Protection Act and amendments to the Safe Drinking Water Act. In part, that legislation required EPA to develop new chemical testing techniques. " "As an example, LeBlanc points to incidents such as the discovery of demasculinized alligators in Florida's Lake Apopka. The demasculinization may be caused by accidental spills or improper disposal of chemicals and may not indicate an exposure problem of the general population. " http://biology.usgs.gov/frog.html(New 17 Nov 98) take a look at the map and think of couples that are trying to have children. http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/narcam/reports/reports.htm Men that wear underwear that they can put ICE in so that their testicles will be cool enough to produce sperm. and wonder... World Wildlife Fund - chemicals in the environment - http://www.worldwildlife.org/toxics/(New 17 Nov 98) "In the end we will only love what we know and we will only protect what we love" Find more about Health Canada's perspective on antibacterial soaps at (New 04 Nov 98) http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hpb/lcdc/publicat/ccdr/97vol23/vol23s7/index.html I like the fact that there are males on this planet. Companies do not want to be sued and foresee the fact that they will just clone your child IF you want one. This current war on a small "mainly" agricultural country, that will have to take loans from the world bank and will probably have to import food now instead of being able to grow "possibly" (organic) food? Are we going to hide our heads in the sand? If this comes out the even the KKK will lay of homosexuals, consider these chemicals are going to de - masculinate the KKK too. Wonder what a KKK'er sounds like in Sapporo? Just thoughts- Yours, Laura - ex-NCO of the United States Air Force aka The Pied Piper PS - Just between you and me. I was more worried about getting raped by a cilivian MALE then worrying about any of the females in the barracks. Difference? I knew I was a female and that my orientation was Heterosexual it would have been the same as if a male had propositioned me that I did not want - he would be slapped. You imply that
