Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-08 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 **The lyrics of "A Space Oddity," for example, could be interpreted
 metaphorically as Bowie's experience of what's called in Crowleyite magick
 "the crossing of the Abyss."

I'm sure they could. Equally the lyrics to "A Space Oddity" can be no more
than a song about a man called Major Tom stuck up in space. And thus
representing David Bowie's attempt to express how he imagines the experience
of space travel might be like through a song. Very profound either way
methinks...

BD

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-08 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Didn't Bowie actually *play* an alien in a movie somewhere around 1970?

 -Original Message-
 From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 10:26 PM
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 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

  -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 99-11-05 04:35:44 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Well I'm glad we cleared all that up.
 
 So is David Bowie one of Satan's puppets or not?

 Aside from Bowie having been, like a few other British rockers, immersed
 in
 Crowleyite, OTO-style occultism** in the '60s, he was THE pioneer of
 "androgyny" (to the point of sexually conjugating with Mick Jagger) and
 THE
 pioneer of the "alien" look on stage.
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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-08 Thread Das GOAT

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In a message dated 99-11-08 13:38:23 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Didn't Bowie actually *play* an alien in a movie somewhere around 1970?

Director Nicholas Roeg's "The Man Who Fell to Earth."

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread sno0wl

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I think you need to remember that David Bowie  made "The Man
Who Fell to Earth" (considered a "classic" for at least 2 decadees)
when the prospect of alien visitors still had a rosy glow--our
infinitely wise, gentle space brothers come to help usand that
film created a sort of "persona" for him that was VERY successful
with the public. So in another sense, he was capitalizing on
something that had worked for him. Then, I think, he had a sort of
dry period. I suppose he had to come up with "something" to
respark his career. I think he also pioneered the ultra-thin
look...along with androgyny...Wasn't it called "Concentration Camp
Glitter Rock" or something like that

sno0wl



On 5 Nov 99, at 22:26, Das GOAT wrote:

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 In a message dated 99-11-05 04:35:44 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Well I'm glad we cleared all that up.
 
 So is David Bowie one of Satan's puppets or not?

 Aside from Bowie having been, like a few other British rockers, immersed in
 Crowleyite, OTO-style occultism** in the '60s, he was THE pioneer of
 "androgyny" (to the point of sexually conjugating with Mick Jagger) and THE
 pioneer of the "alien" look on stage.
 After awhile, one almost expected him to appear on stage doing a duet with a
 Grey ...
 The "Illuminati's" concept of who "Satan" is might not be what the rest of us
 expect ...

 The "medium" --Bowie as performer-- is the message, so don't bother looking
 for any "message" in his lyrics.  Whatever is deemed meaningful by the
 literate left-hemisphere of the brain is a "straw dog" --something used
 mostly to misdirect and fixate conscious attention, "hypnotizing" the mind--
 so that more important nonrational, nonverbal stimuli can penetrate the REAL
 target of "mind control," the right hemisphere's "unconscious."


 **The lyrics of "A Space Oddity," for example, could be interpreted
 metaphorically as Bowie's experience of what's called in Crowleyite magick
 "the crossing of the Abyss."

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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AGREE! It is a point very important.

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:52:07 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The "Illuminati's" concept of who "Satan" is might not be what the rest of us
 expect ...

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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I see which know about mind control. It is very interesting!

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:52:07 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The "medium" --Bowie as performer-- is the message, so don't bother looking
 for any "message" in his lyrics.  Whatever is deemed meaningful by the
 literate left-hemisphere of the brain is a "straw dog" --something used
 mostly to misdirect and fixate conscious attention, "hypnotizing" the mind--
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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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I dont know anything about Bowie but read a little bit
about Crowley then please, talk more about Bowie.

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 09:52:07 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 **The lyrics of "A Space Oddity," for example, could be interpreted
 metaphorically as Bowie's experience of what's called in Crowleyite magick
 "the crossing of the Abyss."

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Rodrigo,

Conjugal rights are what a married couple have.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/


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From: Rodrigo Cesar Banhara [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan


 -Caveat Lector-

 Hey! Interesting!! But please, explain to me a little thing...

 What do you mean about "sexually conjugating with Mick Jagger"?

 This verb... conjugating.. I dont know what is it... yet dont...

  Aside from Bowie having been, like a few other British rockers,
immersed in
  Crowleyite, OTO-style occultism** in the '60s, he was THE pioneer of
  "androgyny" (to the point of sexually conjugating with Mick Jagger) and
THE
  pioneer of the "alien" look on stage.

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Jagger  Bowie. h... Now I understand. Weird.

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:26:31 -, JAH Publications wrote:

Dear Rodrigo,

Conjugal rights are what a married couple have.

Peace be upon you,

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-07 Thread JAH Publications

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You said it.

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 Jagger  Bowie. h... Now I understand. Weird.

 On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:26:31 -, JAH Publications wrote:

 Dear Rodrigo,
 
 Conjugal rights are what a married couple have.
 
 Peace be upon you,

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-07 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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JAH Publications wrote:

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 Dear Joshua2,

 Please visit my website at:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/

 and study it. Then you will find out how I know.

 I do not appreciate being insulted and if you want to have a sensible and
 respectful dialogue with me, you should first apologise for what you said
 about me last week.

 Peace be upon you,

 JAH.

Dear JAH,

I looked at what I wrote below and don't see what I need to apologize for.
BUT, I just glanced through your web site, and discovered that I do need to
apologize to the other list members if I failed to call you a lunatic and by
failing to do so, adding to your credibility in some way.

Please forgive me CTRL for my dereliction of duty. My dog died. My wife left
me and took my best Nintendo game with her. My kids threatened to take me off
oxygen, and I lost the keys to my car. But I'm a trooper dammit.

So here goes...

JAH, there is NOTHING that I saw at your site that even resembles reality.
I will say though, that it appears to be an ambitious undertaking by it's
size. I suspect that you were paid by the word like Dickens was. It's clear
that no one would pay for the content.

I'll pass on the respectful dialogue stuff. I'm not interested in debating
with you. But you should realize that when you post such drivel in a public
forum, someone will challenge you on it.

Peace,

Joshua2


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 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 1:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

  -Caveat Lector-
 
  JAH Publications wrote:
  
-Caveat Lector-
  
   That is exactly what Satan wants you to think so you won't see him
 coming.
  
   JAH.
 
  How do you know this???
 
  Joshua2

You still haven't explained how you KNOW what Satan is thinking.

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 11/3/99 2:07:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That is exactly what Satan wants you to think so you won't see him coming.


JAH.


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 Satan is fiction.

 

Who says?

God is good, God is great, God is not mocked. Allah be praised.

Satan is a lie.

om
k

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-11-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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Peace be unto you.

Satan is not real.  The Devil made no one do it.

Evil is borne by the hearts, minds and hands of man.

Your source has many levels understand that God is One.

God is great, God is good, God is not mocked. Allah be praised.

Om
K

In a message dated 11/3/99 2:07:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Dear Robert,


What you have quoted from Solomon is fine, but you cannot cherry pick The

Bible. The very same source tells us unequivocally that Satan is real.


It is Satan who teaches that people he does not exist, so that you will not

see him coming, or his hand in world and personal events, so that you cannot

fight

against him, because you do not believe he exists. A perfect

defence-strategy and attack-strategy, that leaves people defenceless against

him.


Peace be upon you,


JAH 

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-03 Thread Eagle 1

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Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes::  God is good, God is great, God is not mocked. Allah be praised.
  Satan is a lie. 

Satan is a lie?  Then please explain why is he mentioned so much in the
Bible?  From the Garden of Eden as that old Serpent (Genesis ch 3), the
subtile beast of the field, who goes to and fro throughout the earth (Job
1:6  ch 2); comes as the Beast and the Dragon (Revelation 12:9  ch 13);
then on to the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:14),  and is  many times in
between...
???
If Satan is a lie,  then the whole Bible must be a lie,  because the gist of
the whole plan from beginning to it's end,  is to delete this "Satan" (the
prosecutor; the accuser) entity from our presence;  and God presents
salvation to those who will accept it. For Christ's purpose is salvation to
whomsoever would believe upon Him (John 3:15-17),   from one who is called
"death" aka: the devil.
"For as much then as the children are partakers of the flesh and blood, He
also himself likewise took part of the same;  that through death He might
destroy him that had the power of death,  that is the devil [Satan]".
Hebrews 2:14

Again,  you are welcome to believe what you will,  but when there is
substantial evidence to prove this personnage's emminence and presence,  I
really do not understand how you can say *he is a lie*,  when truly,  truly
as Christ has said,
Satan is the liar,  and the father of all lies...   John 8:44.
Makes no sense to say he is a lie,  when he is the liar of liars.

To each their own belief. To each their own road's end.

eagle 1


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 -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 11/3/99 2:07:05 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  That is exactly what Satan wants you to think so you won't see him
coming.


 JAH.


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  Satan is fiction.

  

 Who says?

 God is good, God is great, God is not mocked. Allah be praised.

 Satan is a lie.

 om
 k

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-03 Thread Kris Millegan

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MHO
To state that satan is "real" is a matter of faith and/or opinion.

Numbers do not lie, they maybe  'experienced' differently, but they do not
lie and are universal.

God is good, God is great, God is not mocked. Allah be praised.

My faith rests within God.

Peace unto you, bretheren.

Om
k
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Aloha, He'Ping,
Om, Shalom, Salaam.
Em Hotep, Peace Be,
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All My Relations.
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In a message dated 11/3/99 8:28:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote::: Satan is fiction.

To state that Satan is 'fiction'  is a matter of faith and opinion.
You are most assuredly entitled to believe as you so choose. However,
it is my firm belief and opinion that this personnage, regardless of his
name, title, or description is alive and doing very well...
biding his time to be cast out of heaven as it is written in Revelation 12.

One day,  we shall ALL know the truth regarding such a statement.
And by that time,  it won't really matter any more.


---
Welcoming the NWO...  let's get it over with.

eagle 1

"Behold,  the days come, saith the Lord God,  that I will send a famine in
the land, not a famine of bread [food], nor a thirst for water,  but [a
famine] of hearing the words of the Lord."   -   Amos 8:11

--

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 -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 11/3/99 4:04:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Talent may not necessarily be on loan from God - could be Satan
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 Satan is fiction.

 Om
 K 

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-03 Thread Terry Cox



Talent may not necessarily be on loan 
from God - could be Satan instead.


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  -Caveat Lector-On 1/11/99 mrufomn wrote:On 
  Mon, 1 Nov 1999, earthman wrote: I saw Bowie the 
  other night on TV when I was surfing. Phew. What a major 
  creep.I don't knowI always like the dudeSame 
  here. I think Bowie's rather talented.BD


Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-03 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

In a message dated 11/3/99 4:04:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Talent may not necessarily be on loan from God - could be Satan instead. 

Satan is fiction.

Om
K

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-03 Thread Tatman, Robert

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No, Satan exists...not necessarily because of any Gnostic/dualistic
requirement for a Principle of Evil to balance the Principle of Good, but
simply because so many people believe he exists. The more we focus on evil,
the more we become obsessed with it, the more we proclaim a culture war
against immorality...the more power we give to the devil we have created by
our belief in evil. This is the Tar Baby Principle: you are attached to what
you attack. Without the devil, the Church is meaningless; the Church *needs*
the devil, just as Kenneth Starr needs Bill Clinton. To quote the apocryphal
Wisdom of Solomon, "Do not invite death by the error of your ways, or bring
on destruction by the works of your hands; For God did not make death, and
he does not delight in the death of the living. He created all things that
they might exist; the creatures of the world are wholesome, and there is no
destructive poison in them, and the palace of Death is not on earth. For
righteousness is immortal." The more we look for evil, the more we will
find...and the stronger evil will become. Far better to live in the virtue
of that life and power that takes away the occasion of all wars and all
hatred and all greed, to look for good and peace and love and thereby
strengthen *their* presence in creation.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 10:28 AM
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 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

  -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 11/3/99 4:04:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Talent may not necessarily be on loan from God - could be Satan
 instead. 

 Satan is fiction.

 Om
 K



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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-03 Thread JAH Publications

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That is exactly what Satan wants you to think so you won't see him coming.

JAH.

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 Satan is fiction.

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-03 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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JAH Publications wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 That is exactly what Satan wants you to think so you won't see him coming.

 JAH.

How do you know this???

Joshua2


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  Satan is fiction.
 
  Om
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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-03 Thread Eagle 1

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Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote::: Satan is fiction.

To state that Satan is 'fiction'  is a matter of faith and opinion.
You are most assuredly entitled to believe as you so choose. However,
it is my firm belief and opinion that this personnage, regardless of his
name, title, or description is alive and doing very well...
biding his time to be cast out of heaven as it is written in Revelation 12.

One day,  we shall ALL know the truth regarding such a statement.
And by that time,  it won't really matter any more.


---
Welcoming the NWO...  let's get it over with.

eagle 1

"Behold,  the days come, saith the Lord God,  that I will send a famine in
the land, not a famine of bread [food], nor a thirst for water,  but [a
famine] of hearing the words of the Lord."   -   Amos 8:11

--

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From: Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 9:28 AM
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 -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 11/3/99 4:04:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Talent may not necessarily be on loan from God - could be Satan
instead. 

 Satan is fiction.

 Om
 K

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-02 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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On 1/11/99 mrufomn wrote:

On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, earthman wrote:


 I saw Bowie the other night on TV when I was surfing.  Phew.  What a major
 creep.

I don't knowI always like the dude

Same here. I think Bowie's rather talented.

BD

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-11-01 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, earthman wrote:


 I saw Bowie the other night on TV when I was surfing.  Phew.  What a major
 creep.

I don't knowI always like the dude



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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-01-03 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Thanks for that Terry, that was a very profound contribution.

I guess I'll just have to listen a little harder to Satanic messages in
"Fashion","Blue Jean" and "Sound  Vision".

BD

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links - Satan

1999-01-03 Thread [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Well I'm glad we cleared all that up.

So is David Bowie one of Satan's puppets or not?

BD.

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-01-03 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Joshua2,

Please visit my website at:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/

and study it. Then you will find out how I know.

I do not appreciate being insulted and if you want to have a sensible and
respectful dialogue with me, you should first apologise for what you said
about me last week.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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 JAH Publications wrote:
 
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  That is exactly what Satan wants you to think so you won't see him
coming.
 
  JAH.

 How do you know this???

 Joshua2

 
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   Satan is fiction.
  
   Om
   K
  
 
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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-01-02 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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Eagle 1 wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Kris Millegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes::  God is good, God is great, God is not mocked. Allah be praised.
   Satan is a lie. 

 Satan is a lie?  Then please explain why is he mentioned so much in the
 Bible?  From the Garden of Eden as that old Serpent (Genesis ch 3), the
 subtile beast of the field, who goes to and fro throughout the earth (Job
 1:6  ch 2); comes as the Beast and the Dragon (Revelation 12:9  ch 13);
 then on to the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:14),  and is  many times in
 between...
 ???
 If Satan is a lie,  then the whole Bible must be a lie,  ...


There you go. Now you've got it. Congratulations. It took you a while but
you've finally seen the light.

 The truth shall set you free."

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Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

1999-01-02 Thread Tatman, Robert

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The more you think about Satan, the more you argue about him, the more you
obsess yourself with him, the more power and reality you give him. Focus on
God, on good, on justice, on mercy...because the more you concentrate on
*these* things, the less power Satan has.

Or, if that doesn't work for you, then simply LAUGH at Satan. In Martin
Luther's words, "The Devil, that proud spirit, cannot stand to be mocked."

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 From: Kris Millegan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 1:39 AM
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 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] More Dark Links

  -Caveat Lector-

 MHO
 To state that satan is "real" is a matter of faith and/or opinion.

 Numbers do not lie, they maybe  'experienced' differently, but they do not
 lie and are universal.

 God is good, God is great, God is not mocked. Allah be praised.

 My faith rests within God.

 Peace unto you, bretheren.

 Om
 k


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