Re: [CTRL] OJ: The Sequel was Re: The Robert Blake thing... was...

2002-04-19 Thread Bond

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There's a high probability that Blake will be convicted whether he is
actually guilty or not. Popular culture today reflects a majority opinion
that OJ walking was a national (judicial) disgrace - and Blake will likely
pay the price as a consequence.

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 I remember right after Blake's wife was killed, someone posted to this
 list that they thought he did it. I don't remember who, maybe someone
 with some free time can check the archives.

 Tenorlove

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Re: [CTRL] OJ: The Sequel was Re: The Robert Blake thing... was... Amtrak De...

2002-04-19 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 4/19/02 2:17:15 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I remember right after Blake's wife was killed, someone posted to this
list that they thought he did it. I don't remember who, maybe someone
with some free time can check the archives.

Could've been me...but if it was I was wrong.
I initially thought OJ was guilty too...

Bill.


Re: [CTRL] OJ: The Sequel was Re: The Robert Blake thing... was... Amtrak De...

2002-04-19 Thread Samantha L.

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In a message dated 4/19/02 6:01:51 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I remember right after Blake's wife was killed, someone posted to this
   list that they thought he did it. I don't remember who, maybe someone
   with some free time can check the archives.

  Could've been me...but if it was I was wrong.
  I initially thought OJ was guilty too...


  Bill, what's your opinion?  What's this about?  I know very little about
this case.

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Re: [CTRL] OJ: The Sequel was Re: The Robert Blake thing... was... Amtrak De...

2002-04-19 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 4/19/02 7:58:32 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Bill, what's your opinion? What's this about? I know very little about
this case.


Well Sam, I just think that once again the LAPD is looking for that high-profile arrest.

Look, they are NOW claiming that Blake shot her himself...don't you think that that would've been pretty obvious, if true, after the initial forensics came back?

Yes, Blake is/was an oddball...he has a temper I guess and reputation...but never for violence! And these "special circumstances" that expose him to the death penalty..."lying in wait"...c'mon!! The D.A. ought to laugh that right out of the case provided they have ANY integrity. 

The victim here had too many people that she'd screwed...not necessarily literally...she had many people who simply HATED her...Blake is the fall guy, like OJ...and hopefully justice will triumph again out west, even though when it does it's ridiculed.

Bill.


Re: [CTRL] OJ: NOONAN: Write-Wing Conspiracy

2001-03-19 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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 But now I think that it has completely changed.
 Republicans--well, not Republicans but conservatives--care
 passionately about the world of ideas, and about history. They
 write books. And Democrats seem to care about money, and they
 don't write books, not serious ones. 

As usual, Noonan is wrong.  It's just that the Republicans learned that
sometimes books make money.  They couldn't miss a chance like that.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] OJ: Mr. Clinton's Army

2000-10-11 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 10/10/2000 6:35:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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  Should Gov. Bush win in November he should bring
 forward and promote soldiers and civilians who understand
 military essentials and the absolute necessity of readiness and
 training, people both colorful and drab, but who would, all of
 them, understand that these words of Gen. George S. Patton are
 the order of the day: 

Promotions in the military fall to the best of the mediocre.  Sad but
truthful.  The guys with real talent wash as captains, because there is
nothing that strikes more terror in the heart of a guy bucking for colonel
than the arrival of a captain with great potential.  This same attitude kept
guys like Bull Simon from becoming a general.Congress tried innumerable
times to make him a general, but the generals wouldn't allow it.  Maybe
that's what kept "Captain" Eddie Rickenbacker a captain.  After all that was
Air Force captain not Navy.  Come into the war a hero, and watch what we do
to you.  Nobody has ever been able to tell me why Eddie wasn't ever promoted.
 I imagine it was the will of all the generals.  And that was during WWII
when we had a normal number of generals.  Now we have so many they outnumber
the privates.  The enormous number of generals makes keeping them housed and
happy a really expensive proposition.  Then they all think they're important,
so they all want aides and lots of reports.  Then they all play golf, and
it's necessary to keep the greens properly and schedule TDYs at the proper
time to take advantage of mixing work and pleasure.  You know, an inspection
trip just at the time when something special is going to be going on near the
point of inspection.

Congress takes and wastes the biggest hunk of the military budget, sending it
to their friends in Industry.   Let's have another stealth bomber that can't
fly in the rain.  Oh yes, an if there's any need to defend the Bush family
oil contracts, let's declare war and get rid of our outdated ammo--especially
the stuff with the depleted uranium.  Tell me more about how Clinton has
neglected the military.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] OJ Simpson Case Mere Prelude To Clinton Trial (fwd)

1999-01-26 Thread RoadsEnd

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In a message dated 1/26/99 6:10:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(CNNS, 01/26/99) -- "What are they  up  to?"   This  question  --
first,  last,  and always -- forms the basis of Conspiracy Nation
News Service.

It very well could be that the dynamics of the OJ trial were looked at with
this 'national circus' in mind. Looking at the grand show and all the
undercurrents, I mean there are more subplots than ER and all the other new
trendy fast paced 'soaps', there does seem to be methodology to the chaos.
Respect for our government and its institutions are at an all time low.
Tensions and diviseness are high. There is the creation of many 'haters', who
can then be led, by the 'blindness' of their hate, into a myraid of
'conspiracy theories' and rationalizational pools of dichotomous fodder.

Remember a conspiracy theory does have to be true to have an effect. Suspicion
and paranoia have been the begining of many an action. Just as scandal is used
to deflect and condition a populace, so conspiracy theory is used to divide,
disuade and box people in to deteriminable action , docility and/or
termination.

Personally, one way I read the psy-sets being sent right now is a continued
assault on our national composure and a stepped-up in your face 'drug and
thought police' pogroms. Strong attempts to mollify growing opposition to the
facistic pogroms , especially out west and to be assertive in the continued
erosion of Constitutional rights by excercising  illegal police powers.

MHO

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Re: [CTRL] OJ

1998-12-07 Thread Sno0wl

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On  6 Dec 98 , Russell wrote:

 Snowowl,
   Somewhere you lost me,  I don't follow the line of thought.  Could you
 explain?
   Russ

I assume you're referring to my post about Ron Goldman and his
friends.

There has been some question about who was the real object of this
murder and that Nicolle Simpson may have been the "bystander" --not
Goldman.

What makes this seem like  a possibility is that Ron Goldman's
roommate was either murdered or "vanished" or both something like a
week before what has become known as the O.J. murders.  I have also
read that three or four other young men--homosexuals? waiters at the
restaurant  (Mezaluna?) --have also been murder victims. At the time
of the murders, Goldman was in the process of opening another
restaurant (in Arizona?) and there are many questions about his
involvement in drugs.

In fact, there were many strange murders surrounding the
trial--please don't ask me to be specific because I can't remember
the details. At least one reporter was killed and Dominic Dunne's son
was, I believe, kidnapped. None of this was reported in the press, or
if it was, it was passed over quickly in back pages.

Where did I read this? In Sherman Skolnick's reports which you might
be able to find at Brian Redman's website.

I admit that I am one of the minority who believe that O.J. was
probably innocent. For such a prominent figure to commit such a
grisly crime, he/she would have to be or go totally psycho...and I
don't see any signs of that, despite the battering incident. Many
Hollywood marriages are very violent (lots of jealousy and
suspicions whirling around re infidelities, success, money, etc.)
Just my opinion, in spite of Jay Leno's nightly jokes about O.J. as
a killer. ( You have to wonder if NBC has a stake in the crime.)  But
worth considering.

Brian Redman posts to CTRL, so you can get his website from one of
his posts, or query himor go to a search engine.


sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] OJ

1998-12-07 Thread DIG Robert H. Sterling

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I assume you're referring to my post about Ron Goldman and his
friends.

There has been some question about who was the real object of this
murder and that Nicolle Simpson may have been the "bystander" --not
Goldman.

This is partially argued by Stephen Singular in "Legacy of Deception".  I
think it may be correct to a degree: that the killers were trying to take care
of two birds with one stone (or 3, if you include the framing of OJ.)

What makes this seem like  a possibility is that Ron Goldman's
roommate was either murdered or "vanished" or both something like a
week before what has become known as the O.J. murders.  I have also
read that three or four other young men--homosexuals? waiters at the
restaurant  (Mezaluna?) --have also been murder victims. At the time
of the murders, Goldman was in the process of opening another
restaurant (in Arizona?) and there are many questions about his
involvement in drugs.

It wasn't a week before, but there are indeed numerous deaths of young men
associated with Goldman (not all were from Mezaluna.)  It is heavily rumored
from underground sources that Goldman and his friends were racking up big
gambling losses.  Drugs also appears part of it.  As for the homosexual angle,
there may be something to it after all: I've been told from good sources that
Ronald Goldman was involved in gay softcore porno films.

In fact, there were many strange murders surrounding the
trial--please don't ask me to be specific because I can't remember
the details. At least one reporter was killed and Dominic Dunne's son
was, I believe, kidnapped. None of this was reported in the press, or
if it was, it was passed over quickly in back pages.

Both of these are correct.  It was a Philadelphia Inquirer reporter who was
working on the case.  As for Dunne, he sure is a fishy character.

Where did I read this? In Sherman Skolnick's reports which you might
be able to find at Brian Redman's website.

And at http://www.konformist.com/skolnick/skolnick.htm .  Nothing on OJ there,
though, at least not yet.

Robert Sterling

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