Re: Vivaldi has no frame
Rhialto wrote > Many (all? I did not look it up) of the lists of window names also > accept class names. Each window doesn't just have a name but also a > class. You can find it with xprop and look for WM_CLASS, such as > WM_CLASS(STRING) = "lxterminal", "Lxterminal". Thanks :-) Indeed I found this: WM_CLASS(STRING) = "crx_mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli", "vivaldi-stable" and warping to "vivaldi-stable" works with ctwm! cu, Frank -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. BioinformatikMail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. *
Re: Vivaldi has no frame
On Fri 08 Jul 2016 at 14:07:25 +0200, Frank Steiner wrote: > Worse... Even with that option there is still no title so that I > cannot define a warpto shortcut etc. Many (all? I did not look it up) of the lists of window names also accept class names. Each window doesn't just have a name but also a class. You can find it with xprop and look for WM_CLASS, such as WM_CLASS(STRING) = "lxterminal", "Lxterminal". > They also don't support normal X11 parameters like -title, -geometry > etc. Of course, since the developers don't stick to conventions at all, they may e failing in the WM_CLASSS department too. I wonder how difficult it might be (and how useful) to generalise window lists to be able to match on any string-like window property. > Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ -Olaf. -- ___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert -- Wayland: Those who don't understand X \X/ rhialto/at/xs4all.nl-- are condemned to reinvent it. Poorly. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Vivaldi has no frame
Matthew D. Fuller wrote > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 11:23:42AM +0200 I heard the voice of > Frank Steiner, and lo! it spake thus: >> Unfortunately, I cannot use MakeTitle because the windows shows in >> IconManager and Window list as "untitled" *grmpf*. But I was shown >> an option in Vivaldi "Use native window" and then it works :-) > > Wacky wacky. That means it's not even setting the window/icon title > unless that option is picked. What a shupid idea. Worse... Even with that option there is still no title so that I cannot define a warpto shortcut etc. I guess the developers have no one in their team working with a *wm manager :-) They also don't support normal X11 parameters like -title, -geometry etc. -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. BioinformatikMail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. *
Re: Vivaldi has no frame
On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 11:23:42AM +0200 I heard the voice of Frank Steiner, and lo! it spake thus: > > Unfortunately, I cannot use MakeTitle because the windows shows in > IconManager and Window list as "untitled" *grmpf*. But I was shown > an option in Vivaldi "Use native window" and then it works :-) Wacky wacky. That means it's not even setting the window/icon title unless that option is picked. What a shupid idea. > But I will checkout the latest branch, the MWMIgnore option might be > helpful for other programs. Having more testing of trunk ain't gonna make me unahppy either :) -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fulle...@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream.
Re: Vivaldi has no frame
On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 10:23:09AM +0200 I heard the voice of
Frank Steiner, and lo! it spake thus:
>
> But it gets no border, title and icons in ctwm. And so it cannot be
> moved, iconized etc. I removed my .ctwmrc file to make sure it's not
> my config, but the problem remains.
>
> The same happens in mwm, while fvwm and twm make vivaldi a normal
> window with a border etc.
Probably the Motif WM hints; ctwm (and presumably mwm; I mean, lookit
the name ;) honor them, and it's presumably asking not to be
decorated.
You can override it directly with MakeTitle{} for the windows you want
to force decoration onto. With current trunk, you can also use
MWMIgnore{} to ignore specific bits of the hinting globally.
--
Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fulle...@over-yonder.net
Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/
On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream.
Re: Vivaldi has no frame
On 08 Jul 2016, Frank Steiner wrote: > But it gets no border, title and icons in ctwm. And so it cannot be moved, > iconized etc. I removed my .ctwmrc file to make sure it's not my config, > but the problem remains. Until someone more knowledgeable replies: it /may/ help that I usually end up happier if I use ctwm compiled with no external window hints or that kind of nonsense as generally application developers seem to use this newer functionality to do things I don't want. (Similarly, I want to *always* disable focus-stealing, etc.) -- Mark
Vivaldi has no frame
Hi, still liking Opera 11 so much ;-) I checked out the new vivaldi browser that brings back most of the features other browsers are missing nowadays. But it gets no border, title and icons in ctwm. And so it cannot be moved, iconized etc. I removed my .ctwmrc file to make sure it's not my config, but the problem remains. The same happens in mwm, while fvwm and twm make vivaldi a normal window with a border etc. It must be sth. specific to ctwm (and mwm), but I've no idea what this could be. Anyone out there having a clue what's wrong here? cu, Frank -- Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner Web: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/ Lehrstuhl f. BioinformatikMail: http://www.bio.ifi.lmu.de/~steiner/m/ LMU, Amalienstr. 17 Phone: +49 89 2180-4049 80333 Muenchen, Germany Fax: +49 89 2180-99-4049 * Rekursion kann man erst verstehen, wenn man Rekursion verstanden hat. *
