Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]
On 11/19/17 20:48, Rhialto wrote: >> I still think that we should remove offensive quotes, and if people >> cannot agree on it, all of fortune. > > It isn't even so much that they are "offensive" as such. It is just that > out there in the Real World, you Simply Do Not Quote Adolf Hitler, at > least not without embedding it in proper historical context and making > absolutely clear that we're talking about a really horrible person, etc > etc. Those are all things way outside the scope of fortune(1), so those > quotes have no place there. I have never encountered an adult to whom I had to explain that Hitler was a horrible person. In fact, his name is kind of semi-uniquely tied to the attribute of being a horrible person. And if I were to encounter such a person, I think there's something wrong with them which removing Hitler quotes from the NetBSD fortune database will not fix. > Why this is so difficult to understand for intelligent persons, I don't > know. I think you may better understand it if you consider that "Hitler was bad" is always the default context, regardless of whatever the isolated quote from him is. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson
Re: Remove fortune quotes attributed to or providing admiration of Adolf Hitler [pr bin/52735]
On 11/19/17 14:22, Rhialto wrote: [---] >> You are completely missing the point of why those quotes are there. > > Such a remark is rather useless without stating why you think they are > there. It does nothing to convince me, obviously. You're implying that the quotes are there for nefarious reasons. Quotes can be quotes just to reflect what someone has said as a matter of historical fact. Hitler, despite being one of the worst people ever, can have said normal things. Showing those quotes does not erase all the bad things he did/said; it can be good to see what kind of rhetoric he used to lure people into the nazi party, or even just to show that even people who can say normal things can also be, or turn into, monsters. -- Kind regards, Jan Danielsson
Re: Error on vndconfig(8) man page
On 05/11/15 19:04, Brian Buhrow wrote: > hello. Just as a point of reference, the command is still vnconfig in > NetBSD-5.2, so the name change is pretty recent. I wonder why the name > change was thought to be necessary? You're failing to channel your inner OCD. ((/dev/cgd* & cgdconfig) & (/dev/ccd* & ccdconfig)) => /dev/vnd* & vndconfig -- Kind Regards, Jan
clang build: bits/c++config.h not found
Hello, When I try building -current using clang[*], I get this: In file included from /usr/src/external/gpl3/gcc/dist/libstdc++-v3/src/c++98/allocator-inst.cc:29: In file included from /home/jan/sysbuild/dest.amd64/usr/include/c++/memory:598: In file included from /usr/src/external/gpl3/gcc/dist/libstdc++-v3/libsupc++/typeinfo:34: /usr/src/external/gpl3/gcc/dist/libstdc++-v3/libsupc++/exception:37:10: fatal error: 'bits/c++config.h' file not found #include bits/c++config.h ^ It's been happening for the past few days, but releng doesn't seem to be having the issues? Building using gcc works though. (I'm checking out src from the cvs repository). Are there some new:ish steps one needs to take to build clang on -current? I haven't updated this system for quite a while. [*] export MKLLVM=yes export MKLIBCXX=yes export HAVE_LLVM=yes -- Kind Regards, Jan
