Re: xemacs-21.5.16 SHOULD BE MARKED AS experimental

2004-03-09 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar  9 08:27, Dr. Volker Zell wrote:
 cd xemacs
 wget http://cygwin.dev.wapme.net/packages/vzell/cygwin/release/xemacs/setup.hint
 
 cd xemacs-tags
 wget 
 http://cygwin.dev.wapme.net/packages/vzell/cygwin/release/xemacs/xemacs-tags/setup.hint
 
 cd ../xemacs-emacs-common
 wget 
 http://cygwin.dev.wapme.net/packages/vzell/cygwin/release/xemacs/xemacs-emacs-common/setup.hint

Uploaded.

Thanks,
Corinna

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Re: libungif - Depends on obsolete X libraries - Rebuild for approval by maintainer

2004-03-09 Thread Lapo Luchini
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Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 I am posting this for review by Lapo, the current maintainer of
 libungif.  If Lapo approves, I will upload this ASAP.

I'm packagin' 4.1.1, but in the meantime feel free to upload this one
(that seems to have already most of the needed patches except upgrade
to latest version ^_^).

 2) Added dependency on XFree86-bin in setup.hint.  (Harold L Hunt II)

Actually I was thinking about using --without-x in next release.
But no other program seems to use it, except WMaker, that uses X11 anyway.

 4) Fixed build script to ignore files generated by relibtoolize, since
 this step will be performed on next rebuild.  (Harold L Hunt II)

I also knida changed my idea to ease the work on the user by including
the giga-patch instead of dynamic relibtoolizing.
But I doubt that user really exists, and relibtoolizing works just as
good, with a much clearer patch.

Lapo

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emacs / libICE.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Oodini
Hello,

I've just installed Cygwin on Windows 2000 to learn Unix stuff, and I 
don't succeed to run emacs.

Windows looks for the missing dll libICE.dll.

Please note that I don't know Unix, except some basic command.

Thanks for help.







Re: emacs / libICE.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar  9 14:03, Oodini wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I've just installed Cygwin on Windows 2000 to learn Unix stuff, and I 
 don't succeed to run emacs.
 
 Windows looks for the missing dll libICE.dll.
 
 Please note that I don't know Unix, except some basic command.
 
 Thanks for help.

Wrong mailing list.  Try [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Corinna

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Re: emacs / libICE.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Oodini


Wrong mailing list.  Try [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

OK, thank you !



Re: libungif - Depends on obsolete X libraries - Rebuild for approval by maintainer

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Lapo,

Lapo Luchini wrote:

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Harold L Hunt II wrote:


I am posting this for review by Lapo, the current maintainer of
libungif.  If Lapo approves, I will upload this ASAP.


I'm packagin' 4.1.1, but in the meantime feel free to upload this one
(that seems to have already most of the needed patches except upgrade
to latest version ^_^).

2) Added dependency on XFree86-bin in setup.hint.  (Harold L Hunt II)


Actually I was thinking about using --without-x in next release.
But no other program seems to use it, except WMaker, that uses X11 anyway.

4) Fixed build script to ignore files generated by relibtoolize, since
this step will be performed on next rebuild.  (Harold L Hunt II)


I also knida changed my idea to ease the work on the user by including
the giga-patch instead of dynamic relibtoolizing.
But I doubt that user really exists, and relibtoolizing works just as
good, with a much clearer patch.
Actually, I did package 4.1.2 (released a few days ago) and posted it 
for your review also:

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2004-03/msg00044.html

It is ready to upload and does the proper amount of re-autotooling 
before building and properly ignores those generated files.

There doesn't seem to be a reason to do --without-x since libungif has 
used it for two years without major problems.

Harold


Re: emacs / libICE.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Corinna Vinschen wrote:

On Mar  9 14:03, Oodini wrote:

Hello,

I've just installed Cygwin on Windows 2000 to learn Unix stuff, and I 
don't succeed to run emacs.

Windows looks for the missing dll libICE.dll.

Please note that I don't know Unix, except some basic command.

Thanks for help.


Wrong mailing list.  Try
Well, sort of, but we need to discuss this here as well.  I have been 
telling people that the lib*.dll libraries for Cygwin/X would be going 
away for a few months now and apparently the emacs maintainer has not 
had a chance to recompile their package in 8 months.

emacs really needs to get rebuilt since I will be pulling thos lib*.dll 
libraries from the distribution within the next week or so.

On a side note, emacs must have been missing XFree86-lib-compat as 
dependency in setup.hint for about 8 months now; this would explain why 
this user does not have those libraries.

Harold


Re: libungif - Depends on obsolete X libraries - Rebuild for approval by maintainer

2004-03-09 Thread Frédéric L. W. Meunier
Sorry, sent it to cygwin-xfree. Time to sleep.

On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 Lapo Luchini wrote:

  Actually I was thinking about using --without-x in next release.
  But no other program seems to use it, except WMaker, that uses X11 anyway.
 
 There doesn't seem to be a reason to do --without-x since libungif has
 used it for two years without major problems.

These aren't really strong arguments.

Lapo is assuming that only WindowMaker uses libungif because
it's the only application linked to it in Cygwin.

You're assuming libungif should depend on XFree86 because it
worked fine with it for 2 years.

linbugif compiled with --without-x will work fine too, and also
enable other people who don't want to install XFree86 to use
the library or any tools, except gif2x11.

But, again, is it so hard to make 2 packages, one with
--without-x ?

I understand the same could be made for gd, after all only a
few people are likely using the xpm support, which is what adds
the XFree86-bin requirement.

Anyway, it's just my opinion. I really don't use both on Cygwin
(but do on a few Linux machines, where space matters).

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Re: libungif - Depends on obsolete X libraries - Rebuild for approval by maintainer

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Frédéric L. W. Meunier wrote:

Sorry, sent it to cygwin-xfree. Time to sleep.

On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:


Lapo Luchini wrote:


Actually I was thinking about using --without-x in next release.
But no other program seems to use it, except WMaker, that uses X11 anyway.
There doesn't seem to be a reason to do --without-x since libungif has
used it for two years without major problems.


These aren't really strong arguments.

Lapo is assuming that only WindowMaker uses libungif because
it's the only application linked to it in Cygwin.
You're assuming libungif should depend on XFree86 because it
worked fine with it for 2 years.
linbugif compiled with --without-x will work fine too, and also
enable other people who don't want to install XFree86 to use
the library or any tools, except gif2x11.
Okay, I will make a stronger argument: I will be really p'odd if a 
rebuild of libungif using --without-x busts my WindowMaker package.  In 
fact, I don't even want to have to look into whether WindowMaker is 
busted or not; I want to maintain the status quo because I am too busy 
to do otherwise.  If you rebuild libungif using --without-x, rebuild 
WindowMaker against that version of libungif, install both and test them 
to confirm that WindowMaker works, then I *might* think it is okay to 
use --without-x for libungif.

This is simply following the rule of if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 
 I often find out that lots of other people have plenty of arguments 
for leaving something alone when I cannot think of such an argument 
myself.  Of course, I figure this out after the fact; in this case I am 
not interested in being unpleasantly surprised.

But, again, is it so hard to make 2 packages, one with
--without-x ?
Have you done it?  Yes, it is really hard.  Think about 16 hours to work 
out all of the little kinks.

Harold


Coreutils musings...

2004-03-09 Thread Mark Blackburn
I tried compiling coreutils-5.2.0 and I didn't see many problems with 
that. Another problem I see is that coreutils will cause conflicts with 
other packages: textutils, sh-utils and fileutils. Obviously coreutils 
is intended to replace these packages so these packages would need to be 
withdrawn if coreutils was included with cygwin.

I've tried to correlate all the binaries in textutils, sh-utils and 
fileutils with those in coreutils and here is what I found:

/usr/bin/kill.exe from coreutils conflicts with cygwin-1.5.7-1.
New binaries in coreutils are:
 /usr/bin/[.exe
 /usr/bin/link.exe
 /usr/bin/stat.exe
 /usr/bin/unlink.exe
I appear to be missing su.exe from coreutils but that's because it 
didn't install for whatever reason. Other than that no binaries are 
missing from coreutils that are in sh-utils, textutils and fileutils

If coreutils were to be packaged I would assume that
1) kill would not be included with coreutils so cygwin's kill would not 
get overwritten.
2) The binaries [.exe, link.exe, stat.exe and unlink.exe would be 
included with coreutils.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/coreutils/tmp
$ tar jxf ../coreutils-5.2.0-1.tar.bz2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/coreutils/tmp
$ tmp=`zcat /etc/setup/textutils.lst.gz | grep -e usr/bin/.*.exe`;  for 
i in $tmp ; do ls $i ; done
usr/bin/cat.exe*
usr/bin/cksum.exe*
usr/bin/comm.exe*
usr/bin/csplit.exe*
usr/bin/cut.exe*
usr/bin/expand.exe*
usr/bin/fmt.exe*
usr/bin/fold.exe*
usr/bin/head.exe*
usr/bin/join.exe*
usr/bin/md5sum.exe*
usr/bin/nl.exe*
usr/bin/od.exe*
usr/bin/paste.exe*
usr/bin/pr.exe*
usr/bin/ptx.exe*
usr/bin/sha1sum.exe*
usr/bin/sort.exe*
usr/bin/split.exe*
usr/bin/sum.exe*
usr/bin/tac.exe*
usr/bin/tail.exe*
usr/bin/tr.exe*
usr/bin/tsort.exe*
usr/bin/unexpand.exe*
usr/bin/uniq.exe*
usr/bin/wc.exe*

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/coreutils/tmp
$ tmp=`zcat /etc/setup/fileutils.lst.gz | grep -e usr/bin/.*.exe`;  for 
i in $tmp ; do ls $i ; done
usr/bin/chgrp.exe*
usr/bin/chmod.exe*
usr/bin/chown.exe*
usr/bin/cp.exe*
usr/bin/dd.exe*
usr/bin/df.exe*
usr/bin/dir.exe*
usr/bin/dircolors.exe*
usr/bin/du.exe*
usr/bin/install.exe*
usr/bin/ln.exe*
usr/bin/ls.exe*
usr/bin/mkdir.exe*
usr/bin/mkfifo.exe*
usr/bin/mknod.exe*
usr/bin/mv.exe*
usr/bin/rm.exe*
usr/bin/rmdir.exe*
usr/bin/shred.exe*
usr/bin/sync.exe*
usr/bin/touch.exe*
usr/bin/vdir.exe*

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/coreutils/tmp
$ tmp=`zcat /etc/setup/sh-utils.lst.gz | grep -e usr/bin/.*.exe`;  for i 
in $tmp ; do ls $i ; done
usr/bin/basename.exe*
usr/bin/chroot.exe*
usr/bin/date.exe*
usr/bin/dirname.exe*
usr/bin/echo.exe*
usr/bin/env.exe*
usr/bin/expr.exe*
usr/bin/factor.exe*
usr/bin/false.exe*
usr/bin/hostid.exe*
usr/bin/hostname.exe*
usr/bin/id.exe*
usr/bin/logname.exe*
usr/bin/nice.exe*
usr/bin/pathchk.exe*
usr/bin/pinky.exe*
usr/bin/printenv.exe*
usr/bin/printf.exe*
usr/bin/pwd.exe*
usr/bin/seq.exe*
usr/bin/sleep.exe*
usr/bin/stty.exe*
ls: usr/bin/su.exe: No such file or directory
usr/bin/tee.exe*
usr/bin/test.exe*
usr/bin/true.exe*
usr/bin/tty.exe*
usr/bin/uname.exe*
usr/bin/users.exe*
usr/bin/who.exe*
usr/bin/whoami.exe*
usr/bin/yes.exe*

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/coreutils/tmp
$ cd usr/bin/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/coreutils/tmp/usr/bin
$ for i in *.exe ; do echo -n $i : ;tmp=`basename $i .exe`; echo 
`cygcheck -f /usr/bin/$tmp` ; done
[.exe :
basename.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
cat.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
chgrp.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
chmod.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
chown.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
chroot.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
cksum.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
comm.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
cp.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
csplit.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
cut.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
date.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
dd.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
df.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
dir.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
dircolors.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
dirname.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
du.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
echo.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
env.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
expand.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
expr.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
factor.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
false.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
fmt.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
fold.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
head.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
hostid.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
hostname.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
id.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
install.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
join.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
kill.exe : cygwin-1.5.7-1
link.exe :
ln.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
logname.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
ls.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
md5sum.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
mkdir.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
mkfifo.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
mknod.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
mv.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
nice.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
nl.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
nohup.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
od.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
paste.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
pathchk.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
pinky.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
pr.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
printenv.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
printf.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
ptx.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
pwd.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
readlink.exe : cygutils-1.2.4-1
rm.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
rmdir.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
seq.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
sha1sum.exe : 

Re: Coreutils musings...

2004-03-09 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 12:01:12AM -0500, Mark Blackburn wrote:
I tried compiling coreutils-5.2.0 and I didn't see many problems with 
that. Another problem I see is that coreutils will cause conflicts with 
other packages: textutils, sh-utils and fileutils. Obviously coreutils 
is intended to replace these packages so these packages would need to be 
withdrawn if coreutils was included with cygwin.

I don't understand the point of this email.  If you are volunteering to
support coreutils, then thanks.

If you aren't then I'm not going to enter into YA discussion about these
issues.  I'll do that when someone actually volunteers and actually starts
doing work.

cgf

I've tried to correlate all the binaries in textutils, sh-utils and 
fileutils with those in coreutils and here is what I found:

/usr/bin/kill.exe from coreutils conflicts with cygwin-1.5.7-1.
New binaries in coreutils are:
 /usr/bin/[.exe
 /usr/bin/link.exe
 /usr/bin/stat.exe
 /usr/bin/unlink.exe

I appear to be missing su.exe from coreutils but that's because it 
didn't install for whatever reason. Other than that no binaries are 
missing from coreutils that are in sh-utils, textutils and fileutils

If coreutils were to be packaged I would assume that
1) kill would not be included with coreutils so cygwin's kill would not 
get overwritten.
2) The binaries [.exe, link.exe, stat.exe and unlink.exe would be 
included with coreutils.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/coreutils/tmp
$ tar jxf ../coreutils-5.2.0-1.tar.bz2

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/coreutils/tmp
$ tmp=`zcat /etc/setup/textutils.lst.gz | grep -e usr/bin/.*.exe`;  for 
i in $tmp ; do ls $i ; done
usr/bin/cat.exe*
usr/bin/cksum.exe*
usr/bin/comm.exe*
usr/bin/csplit.exe*
usr/bin/cut.exe*
usr/bin/expand.exe*
usr/bin/fmt.exe*
usr/bin/fold.exe*
usr/bin/head.exe*
usr/bin/join.exe*
usr/bin/md5sum.exe*
usr/bin/nl.exe*
usr/bin/od.exe*
usr/bin/paste.exe*
usr/bin/pr.exe*
usr/bin/ptx.exe*
usr/bin/sha1sum.exe*
usr/bin/sort.exe*
usr/bin/split.exe*
usr/bin/sum.exe*
usr/bin/tac.exe*
usr/bin/tail.exe*
usr/bin/tr.exe*
usr/bin/tsort.exe*
usr/bin/unexpand.exe*
usr/bin/uniq.exe*
usr/bin/wc.exe*

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/coreutils/tmp
$ tmp=`zcat /etc/setup/fileutils.lst.gz | grep -e usr/bin/.*.exe`;  for 
i in $tmp ; do ls $i ; done
usr/bin/chgrp.exe*
usr/bin/chmod.exe*
usr/bin/chown.exe*
usr/bin/cp.exe*
usr/bin/dd.exe*
usr/bin/df.exe*
usr/bin/dir.exe*
usr/bin/dircolors.exe*
usr/bin/du.exe*
usr/bin/install.exe*
usr/bin/ln.exe*
usr/bin/ls.exe*
usr/bin/mkdir.exe*
usr/bin/mkfifo.exe*
usr/bin/mknod.exe*
usr/bin/mv.exe*
usr/bin/rm.exe*
usr/bin/rmdir.exe*
usr/bin/shred.exe*
usr/bin/sync.exe*
usr/bin/touch.exe*
usr/bin/vdir.exe*

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/coreutils/tmp
$ tmp=`zcat /etc/setup/sh-utils.lst.gz | grep -e usr/bin/.*.exe`;  for i 
in $tmp ; do ls $i ; done
usr/bin/basename.exe*
usr/bin/chroot.exe*
usr/bin/date.exe*
usr/bin/dirname.exe*
usr/bin/echo.exe*
usr/bin/env.exe*
usr/bin/expr.exe*
usr/bin/factor.exe*
usr/bin/false.exe*
usr/bin/hostid.exe*
usr/bin/hostname.exe*
usr/bin/id.exe*
usr/bin/logname.exe*
usr/bin/nice.exe*
usr/bin/pathchk.exe*
usr/bin/pinky.exe*
usr/bin/printenv.exe*
usr/bin/printf.exe*
usr/bin/pwd.exe*
usr/bin/seq.exe*
usr/bin/sleep.exe*
usr/bin/stty.exe*
ls: usr/bin/su.exe: No such file or directory
usr/bin/tee.exe*
usr/bin/test.exe*
usr/bin/true.exe*
usr/bin/tty.exe*
usr/bin/uname.exe*
usr/bin/users.exe*
usr/bin/who.exe*
usr/bin/whoami.exe*
usr/bin/yes.exe*

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/coreutils/tmp
$ cd usr/bin/

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/coreutils/tmp/usr/bin
$ for i in *.exe ; do echo -n $i : ;tmp=`basename $i .exe`; echo 
`cygcheck -f /usr/bin/$tmp` ; done
[.exe :
basename.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
cat.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
chgrp.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
chmod.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
chown.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
chroot.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
cksum.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
comm.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
cp.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
csplit.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
cut.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
date.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
dd.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
df.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
dir.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
dircolors.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
dirname.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
du.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
echo.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
env.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
expand.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
expr.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
factor.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
false.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
fmt.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
fold.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
head.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
hostid.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
hostname.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
id.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
install.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
join.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
kill.exe : cygwin-1.5.7-1
link.exe :
ln.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
logname.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
ls.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
md5sum.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
mkdir.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
mkfifo.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
mknod.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
mv.exe : fileutils-4.1-2
nice.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
nl.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
nohup.exe : sh-utils-2.0.15-4
od.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
paste.exe : textutils-2.0.21-1
pathchk.exe : 

Re: Coreutils musings...

2004-03-09 Thread Mark Blackburn
Mark Blackburn wrote:

I tried compiling coreutils-5.2.0 and I didn't see many problems with 
that. Another problem I see is that coreutils will cause conflicts 
with other packages: textutils, sh-utils and fileutils. Obviously 
coreutils is intended to replace these packages so these packages 
would need to be withdrawn if coreutils was included with cygwin.
Feel free to ignore this posting.

I didn't search the archives for coreutils before sending this message 
(sorry). I was mainly looking for confirmation that coreutils was 
intended to replace all three of the *utils packages and it's obvious 
from the archives that this is the case.

I'll research the archives more thoroughly before posting about 
coreutils again.

Mark Blackburn


Re: Coreutils musings...

2004-03-09 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 12:17:30AM -0500, Mark Blackburn wrote:
Mark Blackburn wrote:

I tried compiling coreutils-5.2.0 and I didn't see many problems with 
that. Another problem I see is that coreutils will cause conflicts 
with other packages: textutils, sh-utils and fileutils. Obviously 
coreutils is intended to replace these packages so these packages 
would need to be withdrawn if coreutils was included with cygwin.

Feel free to ignore this posting.

I didn't search the archives for coreutils before sending this message 
(sorry). I was mainly looking for confirmation that coreutils was 
intended to replace all three of the *utils packages and it's obvious 
from the archives that this is the case.

I'll research the archives more thoroughly before posting about 
coreutils again.

Not to be too pedantic or anything (but when did that ever stop me) but
the only applicable message about coreutils in cygwin-apps is really an
ITP.  Anything else is off-topic since coreutils isn't currently a
cygwin package.

I'll gladly waive the moratorium for a new coreutils package.

cgf


Re: Coreutils musings...

2004-03-09 Thread Mark Blackburn
Christopher Faylor wrote:

I don't understand the point of this email.  If you are volunteering to
support coreutils, then thanks.
If you aren't then I'm not going to enter into YA discussion about these
issues.  I'll do that when someone actually volunteers and actually starts
doing work.
cgf
 

I'm going to poke around in the coreutils source for a bit to make sure 
I'm not biting off more than I can chew before I volunteer. I don't 
expect any further discussion until I post an ITP and I'm sure that I'm 
competent enough to discuss things.

Mark Blackburn


Re: libungif - Depends on obsolete X libraries - Rebuild for approval by maintainer

2004-03-09 Thread Frédéric L. W. Meunier
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 Frédéric L. W. Meunier wrote:

  These aren't really strong arguments.
 
  Lapo is assuming that only WindowMaker uses libungif because
  it's the only application linked to it in Cygwin.
 
  You're assuming libungif should depend on XFree86 because it
  worked fine with it for 2 years.
 
  linbugif compiled with --without-x will work fine too, and also
  enable other people who don't want to install XFree86 to use
  the library or any tools, except gif2x11.


 Okay, I will make a stronger argument: I will be really p'odd
 if a rebuild of libungif using --without-x busts my
 WindowMaker package.  In fact, I don't even want to have to
 look into whether WindowMaker is busted or not; I want to
 maintain the status quo because I am too busy to do
 otherwise.  If you rebuild libungif using --without-x,
 rebuild WindowMaker against that version of libungif, install
 both and test them to confirm that WindowMaker works, then I
 *might* think it is okay to use --without-x for libungif.

Sorry, but I'm not going to do that mainly because I don't use
WindowMaker, am not familiar with it, and wouldn't know where
to look for anything that could broke gif support. Maybe
someone will.

Anyway, it shouldn't break anything as some Linux distributions
use --without-x and ship WindowMaker with gif support (yes, it
has a --disable-gif).

  But, again, is it so hard to make 2 packages, one with
  --without-x ?

 Have you done it?  Yes, it is really hard.  Think about 16
 hours to work out all of the little kinks.

What ? I thought you had fix all issues, so it's probably what
took your time. Simply replicating it with --without-x
shouldn't take so much, as it doesn't change anything. In fact,
it just doesn't build gif2x11. You don't even need to
relibtoolize and such.

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Re: Coreutils musings...

2004-03-09 Thread Frédéric L. W. Meunier
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Christopher Faylor wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 12:01:12AM -0500, Mark Blackburn wrote:
 I tried compiling coreutils-5.2.0 and I didn't see many problems with
 that. Another problem I see is that coreutils will cause conflicts with
 other packages: textutils, sh-utils and fileutils. Obviously coreutils
 is intended to replace these packages so these packages would need to be
 withdrawn if coreutils was included with cygwin.

 I don't understand the point of this email.  If you are volunteering to
 support coreutils, then thanks.

But if he's, let me add 2 things:

1- Last time I tried printf.exe linked against the static
libintl (or libiconv), making a huge binary.

2- http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2003-08/msg00234.html

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Could not open default font 'fixed'

2004-03-09 Thread Jeff Wolkove
I had the above error when I attempted to run startxwin.bat. The FAQ says
I should nudge the mailing list so here I am nudging. Does anyone know
of a fix for this error? Let me know if you need any further details.
Thanks
Jeff


XWin 4.3.0-50 crashes with -multiwindow

2004-03-09 Thread fabrizio . ge
Hello.

I am running Cygwin X server on a Windows 2000 machine. Installed packages
are

XFree86-base4.3.0-1OK
XFree86-bin 4.3.0-9OK
XFree86-etc 4.3.0-6OK
XFree86-fenc4.2.0-3OK
XFree86-fnts4.2.0-3OK
XFree86-lib 4.3.0-1OK
XFree86-lib-compat  4.3.0-2OK
XFree86-prog4.3.0-13   OK
XFree86-startup-scripts 4.2.0-5OK
XFree86-xserv   4.3.0-50   OK

I then compiled VICE (http://www.viceteam.org) and launched the program
x64 with option -display in order to make it use my Cygwin X server. If
the
server is launched with -multiwindow, it crashes when the application executes
the line

new_item = XtVaCreateManagedWidget(name,
   smeBSBObjectClass,
w,
   XtNrightMargin, 20,
   XtNleftMargin, 20,
   XtNlabel,
   label + 1,
   NULL);

(it is in file src/arch/unix/xaw/uimenu.c at line 318). The application
does not crash, but the next X instruction makes it exit with

X connection to localhost:0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).

Exiting...

Nothing happens if the server is in single-window mode: the application
and the server run fine.

The X server gives this stack dump

Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=610AAEFC
eax= ebx=17A8 ecx=10169E08 edx=005151F8 esi=10169E10 edi=1016B5B0
ebp=018DED84 esp=018DED6C program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe
cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs= ss=0023
Stack trace:
Frame Function  Args
018DED84  610AAEFC  (181489E0, 0029, 611489C0, 0001)
018DEDB4  61054B85  (10169E10, , , 0030)
018DEE14  61086211  (0020, 0018, 101890E0, 101563C8)
018DEEC4  0044B721  (10168A90, C001, 100EF9A4, 10167050)
018DEEE4  0044B8ED  (008F, 100EF998, 00CB, 00CB)
018DEF34  00442ED2  (100E9168, , , )
018DEF74  610A024F  (100EFA80, 018DEFAC, 610A01E0, )
018DEFA4  61003D64  (, , , )
018DFFA4  61003D0E  (, , , )
End of stack trace

Bye
Fabrizio

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Re: Keyboard problems with XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-50

2004-03-09 Thread Harald Joerg
Alexander Gottwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] didn't
fail noticing:

 On Mon, 8 Mar 2004, Harald Joerg wrote:

 Everything is back to normal now with
 
XWin -rootless -clipboard -xkbmodel pc105 -xkblayout de 

 BTW: (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 00090407 (00090407) 

 indicates an unusual layout. How is this keyboard layout called?

A world full of wonders ;-)

This is a keyboard having enough function keys for mainframes, various
flavours of Unix and Windows (and, of course, Cygwin and XFree).  If
it hadn't so many coffee stains, I'd post a picture :-)

In Windows, it is called TATE (German) trimodal, if this is of any
help...
-- 
Cheers,
haj



Solved: AltGr with Solaris 2.6

2004-03-09 Thread Walter Haidinger
Hi! 

Finally I managed to figure out howto make the AltGr key work on my German 
keyboard under Solaris 2.6 and Cygwin XFree86 (tested with 4.3.0-51)! :-)

The at '@' and pipe '|' and all other AltGr keys work for me, even the 
Euro-Sign if I use a iso-8859-15 font. Here is the howto: 

1. Edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config

You need to _uncomment_ the following line in section InputDevices:
   Option RightAlt  ModeSwitch

Restart your X-Server to apply the change.

2. Modify your keymap:

I'm using the following .xmodmaprc below. 
Please have a look at the notes too!

--cut--
!
! Make AltGr work with Solaris 2.6 and Cygwin XFree86
!
! Prerequisite: Add or uncomment the following line in section
!   InputDevices of /etc/X11/XF86Config :
!
!Option RightAlt ModeSwitch
!
! NOTE: Newer OS, such as Solaris versions (8 and 9), Linux or Cygwin
!   do NOT need this fix!
!
! ---
!
! assign modifier key
!
! for modern OS (Solaris 8, Linux, Cygwin, etc)
!keycode 113 = ISO_Level3_Shift Multi_key
!
! for ancient Solaris 2.6
keycode 113 = Mode_switch
!
! remap keys
!
! NOTE: Keycodes (list with 'modmap -pke') under Exceed 8.0 differ
!   from Cygwin XFree86. Odd. Therefore, check the values!
!
keycode  11 = 2 quotedbl twosuperior
keycode  12 = 3 section threesuperior
keycode  16 = 7 slash braceleft
keycode  17 = 8 parenleft bracketleft
keycode  18 = 9 parenright bracketright
keycode  19 = 0 equal braceright
keycode  20 = ssharp question backslash
keycode  21 = acute grave
keycode  24 = q Q at
keycode  26 = e E currency
keycode  35 = plus asterisk asciitilde
keycode  49 = asciicircum degree
keycode  58 = m M mu
keycode  94 = less greater bar
--cut--

NOTES:
* Save this as your ~/.xmodmaprc or save it and run 
  'xmodmap filename' in your shell startup script.
 
* I've found that the keycodes are _not_ identical and depend
  on your OS and/or X-Server (can somebody clearify this?). 
  The values above work for me, but you'd better verify the keycodes
  with 'modmap -pke' if they match yours.

* If 'currency' is not defined, try 'EuroSign' or '0x00a4'.

Hope that helps. Comments are welcome.

Walter


Full screen, minus a bit, how?

2004-03-09 Thread Chris Green
Is it possible to get cygwin to start up in 'not quite full screen'
mode?

I use a multiple desktop system on my win2k machine and use cygwin/X
to run my Linux desktop on one of the win2k desktops.  However I keep
the win2k taskbar visible (it has the multiple desktops in the
taskbar) using a little utility called Shove-it.  Thus when cygwin/X
brings up the Linux system's desktop Shove-it pushes it down (I have
my taskbar at the top) by the width of the taskbar.  This works OK
except that sometimes I get some odd effects when using the mouse near
the bottom of the screen.

Thus a way to get cygwin/X to bring up an xdmcp desktop in something
like 1600x1160 mode would be very useful.

-- 
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Re: Solved: AltGr with Solaris 2.6

2004-03-09 Thread Walter Haidinger
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote:

 Hm. 4.3.0-51 does not read XF86Config. So this seems to be not needed.

Well, I forgot to mention that I've edited startxwin.bat to start XFree86 
like this (on one line):

start XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -xf86config C:\cygwin\etc\X11\XF86Config

Regards, Walter


Re: Solved: AltGr with Solaris 2.6

2004-03-09 Thread Alexander Gottwald
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Walter Haidinger wrote:

 Hi! 
 
 Finally I managed to figure out howto make the AltGr key work on my German 
 keyboard under Solaris 2.6 and Cygwin XFree86 (tested with 4.3.0-51)! :-)
 
 The at '@' and pipe '|' and all other AltGr keys work for me, even the 
 Euro-Sign if I use a iso-8859-15 font. Here is the howto: 
 
 1. Edit your /etc/X11/XF86Config
 
 You need to _uncomment_ the following line in section InputDevices:
Option RightAlt  ModeSwitch

Hm. 4.3.0-51 does not read XF86Config. So this seems to be not needed.

bye
ago
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Problem with xman

2004-03-09 Thread fergus
I'm running XWin -51 and the 20040306 snapshot. If I try xman then
everything looks as though it's going to work beautifully (and it does, as
far as file access etc goes) but a typical man page, when it appears, shows
control instructions like this:

1mNAME0m
diff - compare files line by line

1mSYNOPSIS0m
1mdiff 22m[4mOPTION24m] ... 4mFILES0m

etc.

Anybody else get this? Do I need to do something simple to correct this
behaviour?

Fergus



Re: Still clipboard deadlock with 4.3.0-50

2004-03-09 Thread Ed Avis
Igor Pechtchanski writes:

The log that you show below confirms that you *do not* have 4.3.0-50
installed,

That's what I suspected, but the setup program is quite sure it
installed -50...

Please configure your mailer to not quote raw e-mail addresses in
replies -- the spam harvesters have it too easy as it is.

As far as I know it quotes only the From header of the previous
message, which is already publicly readable?  I have hidden your
address in this case but I don't think you can require others to keep
hidden something which you have publicly disclosed.

If you're referring to the web archive, and the fact that it applies
some simple obfuscation to From: but not to message bodies, then I'll
change my mailer's behaviour if the list owner requests it.

Also, if you had a copy of XWin.exe running at the time you did the
install, setup was not able to replace it, but instead scheduled a
replace-on-reboot for it.  Search /var/log/setup.log for Scheduled
reboot replacement.

Yes, I see it.  But I did reboot my machine, as the setup program
suggested.

Anyway I moved XWin.exe.new to XWin.exe and I am now running the
latest version.

-- 
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Cygwin - Cygnus for Windows - Linux based ported to Windows

2004-03-09 Thread Yauger, Joshua (Contractor)
Please provide some input; I can't find the information I need on the net to
complete my mission at hand. This issue is ongoing and needs to be
addressed, Thank you in advanced for any information you can provide for the
following:

PostgreSQL
How can I dump (backup) and restore?
How can I merge two PostgreSQL databases?

Example: Authoritative server copies from A - B, Which will overwrite the
existing file on B. Need to merge one file to another then copy from A - B.
Open the file as a XLS then import the other file, then you can sort.

Thanks a million for any help you can provide!
Joshua Yauger
System Administrator
Defense Information Systems Agency


Re: Cygwin - Cygnus for Windows - Linux based ported to Windows

2004-03-09 Thread David Fraser
Yauger, Joshua (Contractor) wrote:

Please provide some input; I can't find the information I need on the net to
complete my mission at hand. This issue is ongoing and needs to be
addressed, Thank you in advanced for any information you can provide for the
following:
PostgreSQL
How can I dump (backup) and restore?
How can I merge two PostgreSQL databases?
Example: Authoritative server copies from A - B, Which will overwrite the
existing file on B. Need to merge one file to another then copy from A - B.
Open the file as a XLS then import the other file, then you can sort.
Thanks a million for any help you can provide!
Joshua Yauger
System Administrator
Defense Information Systems Agency
 

This has nothing to do with cygwin-xfree86 - you would do better asking 
this on a postgresql mailing list.
See the PostgreSQL website for more info

David


RE: Troubles with an xterm

2004-03-09 Thread SMore
I was able to get my hands on a Solaris running openwindows.

The xterm client on the as400 works fine using the Solaris Xserver.
The same xterm client on the as400 does not work with cygwin's
Xserver.

This leeds me to belive that the problem is with cygwin..

-Steve More


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Dickey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 5:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Troubles with an xterm


On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ah yes

 The as400 is an EBCDIC system, and cygwin is ASCII

 How do I fix this ?

It hasn't been (I think) recently tested, but there is a port of xterm
to os390 which does some translation to/from EBCDIC.  There's a
README.os390 in the source-tarball for xterm (see my webpage for
instance).

I can give advice and fix bugs, but don't have an os390 myself.

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RE: Troubles with an xterm

2004-03-09 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was able to get my hands on a Solaris running openwindows.

   The xterm client on the as400 works fine using the Solaris Xserver.
   The same xterm client on the as400 does not work with cygwin's
 Xserver.

   This leeds me to belive that the problem is with cygwin..

I suppose so - but not having setup keyboard mapping for this, can only
guess what has to be done.

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XWin Xserver maximum root area exceeded?

2004-03-09 Thread Bonert Brigitte
Hello,
Thank you very much for your answer.
I am sorry I think I left out too many details when describing my problem.
The application I am running is proprietory but I do have the code and I
actually changed the code to get as far as I am with this (it is a part of
an Energy Management system and I am using its console interface code to
display the status of of the high voltage grid on a display wall .. these
are special pictures with symbols for generators/switches/lines etc).

I do not think that my application cannot handle a root area of 12800x2048
(or 6400x2048 which is the minimum I need) but suspect that cygwin/X cannot.
My reasoning for this is that the application runs without error with the X
server WinaXe6.7 (for which I have a special version that can handle a
12800x2048 root area sent to me from LabF.com). The problem with WinaXe is
that it uses a lot more CPU time than cygwin/X, when I compare them (using
of course the root area in which both work).  Because of this I would really
like to use the cygwin X server but cannot, because of the problem I
encountered.

I will have a look at Xnest to see whether I get any further.

I am using a Windows2000 workstation with special Display driver code (this
is code from the company which also builds the projectors) and I am not
really sure that Windows2000 knows that it has 20 monitors I tried the
multimonitor option just in case it helps but it does not appear to. 
 
Any ideas?

A friend recommended using xmon to find out more of what is happening. 
Do you have experience with xmon?

What happened to the option emulatepseudo ?
My X application uses Pseudo colours and in order to get the cgywin Xserver
to work I had to set the number of colours to 256 for my display definition
on the PC
(very ugly when wanting to run other applications).

Brigitte


Hello,
I am still struggling with this. Find attached the Xwin log file.
I am using a root area of 6400x2048
I am getting this error in my X application:

BadWindow (invalid Windowparameter) Mayor Op Code of failed request:
20(X_GetProperty)

And the picture I want to display never comes up.
It works with a smaller root area of 2560x2048 4 1280x1024 projectors
arranged in 2 rows. 

Yes, it sounds like your remote application has a problem trying to draw to
a window that is larger than a certain size. That is, it has not problem
with 2560x2048, but it just won't work with widths greater than some amount.

Assuming your application respects the standard -geometry
WIDTHxHEIGHT+X_OFFSET+Y_OFFSET, then you should be able to run a test with
your twenty monitors (or whatever the full number was) with a window size
restricted like the following:

my_app_name -geometry 2560x2048+0+0

If it runs, then try bumping the width value until you figure out that it
has a problem; if it eventually has a problem, then you have found a bug or
limitation in your application that will have to be fixed, there is nothing
we can do to fix this for you.

If your application does not run, then it is because it does not like the
size of the root window being too large; this means that once you have a
display area larger than a certain amount then the application will fail to
run. You could always run it within an Xnest server that was restricted to
a specified size, but this would not help you get it working on 20 monitors.

I hope that helps. Is the application that you are using open source or
closed source? If it is open source, then perhaps we could take a peek at
it; if it is closed source there is nothing we can do. :)


What does the multiplemonitors option do? 

It tells XWin.exe to use the space on all monitors instead of just on the
primary monitor. In other words, without -multiplemonitors you can only
display applications on the primary monitor.

Harold

-Original Message-
From: Bonert Brigitte 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:02 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: XWin Xserver maximum root area exceeded?


Find attached a log file (at this stage I was only running with a root area
of 6400x2048)
Brigitte 

You have an interesting setup that possibly reveals
non-trivial bugs.  Unless you will continue to consult Harold
privately, please show /tmp/XWin.log from a failed session.

Takuma Murakami

-Original Message-
From: Bonert Brigitte 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:27 AM
To: 'Harold L Hunt II'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: XWin Xserver maximum root area exceeded?


Harold,
I am not using OpenSSH to ssh into the UNIX. I am using xdm with a modified
startup script from the file:
\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\startxdmcp.bat 
see below

start XWin :2 -query %REMOTE_HOST% -scrollbars -lesspointer -fp
tcp/%REMOTE_HOST%:7100

I do get the login screen and everything comes up just fine (it did not with
the previous version of XWin I tried some time ago). It connects also just
fine to the fontserver I have running on the remote host.

Everything works on my PC (with root area of 1600x1200 and NT service 

Really still clipboard deadlock with 4.3.0-50

2004-03-09 Thread Ed Avis
I upgraded to XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-50, but I still get the problem of
Windows apps hanging when I paste into them.  Here is the XWin.log
after that had happened a couple of times.

(Looking at the changelog for -51 I didn't see anything related to the
clipboard problem so I haven't tried the new version before reporting
this bug, but I will if you want.)

Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 4.3.0.50
Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

XWin was started with the following command line:

/usr/X11R6/bin/XWin -clipboard 

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1280 h 1024
winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 0007
winScreenInit - dwWidth: 1280 dwHeight: 1024
winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth of 32 bits per pixel
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1280 h: 1024
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1280 h: 1024
winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 996 1280
winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 996 1280
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1274 h 971 r 1274 l 0 b 971 t 0
winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface
winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface
winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to primary surface
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 5096
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow pitch: 5096
winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow stride: 1274
winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff
winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff ff00 00ff BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32
winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
winFinishScreenInitFB - returning
winScreenInit - returning
InitOutput - Returning.
MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization disabled due to lack of shared 
memory support in the kernel
(--) Setting autorepeat to delay=250, rate=31
(--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0809 (0809) 
(--) Using preset keyboard for English (United Kingdom) (809), type 4
Rules = xfree86 Model = pc105 Layout = gb Variant = (null) Options = (null)
winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 637 485
winBlockHandler - Releasing pmServerStarted
winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned
winProcEstablishConnection - Hello
winInitClipboard ()
winProcEstablishConnection - winInitClipboard returned.
winClipboardProc - Hello
DetectUnicodeSupport - Windows NT/2000/XP
winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display.
winClipboardWindowProc - WM_DRAWCLIPBOARD - Initializing - Returning.
winShadowUpdateDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2
winShadowUpdateDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2
winShadowUpdateDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2
winShadowUpdateDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2
winShadowUpdateDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2
winShadowUpdateDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2
winShadowUpdateDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2
winShadowUpdateDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2
winShadowUpdateDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2
winShadowUpdateDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt () failed: 887601c2
winShadowUpdateDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt failure message maximum (10) reached.  
No more failure messages will be printed.winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL - 
IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt reported that the primary surface was lost, trying to restore, 
retry: 1
winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Restore returned: 
winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt reported that the primary 
surface was lost, trying to restore, retry: 1
winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Restore returned: 
winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt reported that the primary 
surface was lost, trying to restore, retry: 1
winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Restore returned: 
winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt reported that the primary 
surface was lost, trying to restore, retry: 1
winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Restore returned: 
winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Blt reported that the primary 
surface was lost, trying to restore, retry: 1
winBltExposedRegionsShadowDDNL - IDirectDrawSurface4_Restore returned: 
winProcSetSelectionOwner - OpenClipboard () failed: 
winProcSetSelectionOwner - OpenClipboard () failed: 

[Fwd: ForwardX11Trusted]

2004-03-09 Thread Corinna Vinschen
FYI:

- Forwarded message from Colin Watson -
 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 15:44:20 +
 From: Colin Watson
 Subject: ForwardX11Trusted
 To: openssh-unix-dev PLAM mindrot DONG org
 
 Since packaging OpenSSH 3.8p1 for Debian, I've got a flood of bug
 reports and confusion about the new untrusted X client configuration.
 
 At least part of this seems to be the short (2 minutes!) timeout on the
 cookie, so that if you're impatient like me and open a connection to a
 machine that takes a little while to do the key exchange, go off and do
 something in another window in the meantime, and then come back when
 it's finished, you may well find that the untrusted cookie's expired in
 the meantime. This seems a bit excessive.
 
 Would anyone think I was crazy for defaulting to ForwardX11Trusted in
 our OpenSSH package for a while until this becomes more mature? At least
 then we don't regress.
 ___
 openssh-unix-dev mailing list
- End forwarded message -

So, other OSes have problems with ForwardX11Trusted as well :-|

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XWin crash when running Oracle installer

2004-03-09 Thread Rob Foehl
XWin.exe is crashing (persistently) when running the Oracle 8.1.7 Java
installer remotely from a Solaris system, tunneled via ssh.  This only
happens in multiwindow mode; the installer will run without issues when X
is running with a root window.  Crash occurs after the initial loading..
screen is displayed; unfortunately, I don't have much more detail than
this.  A stack dump of the X server is below..  This is -51, and I haven't
tested with any other releases.  Please let me know if there is more
specific information I can provide..

Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=610AAEFC
eax=611489F4 ebx=0CA0 ecx=10391628 edx=00330030 esi=10392238 edi=103922C8
ebp=018FEDE4 esp=018FEDCC program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe
cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs= ss=0023
Stack trace:
Frame Function  Args
018FEDE4  610AAEFC  (0001, 0F70, 4000, 018FEE14)
018FEE14  61054B85  (10392238, 0020, 0001, 0018)
018FEEC4  61086211  (1025FE70, C001, 100EE0CC, 1017C768)
018FEEE4  0044B8ED  (00A000C8, 00A000C8, 00CA, 00CA)
018FEF34  00442ED2  (100E7890, , , )
018FEF74  610A024F  (100EE1A8, 018FEFAC, 610A01E0, )
018FEFA4  61003D64  (, , , )
018FFFA4  61003D0E  (, , , )
End of stack trace

-Rob


Re: Full screen, minus a bit, how?

2004-03-09 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Chris Green wrote:

 Is it possible to get cygwin to start up in 'not quite full screen'
 mode?

 I use a multiple desktop system on my win2k machine and use cygwin/X
 to run my Linux desktop on one of the win2k desktops.  However I keep
 the win2k taskbar visible (it has the multiple desktops in the
 taskbar) using a little utility called Shove-it.  Thus when cygwin/X
 brings up the Linux system's desktop Shove-it pushes it down (I have
 my taskbar at the top) by the width of the taskbar.  This works OK
 except that sometimes I get some odd effects when using the mouse near
 the bottom of the screen.

 Thus a way to get cygwin/X to bring up an xdmcp desktop in something
 like 1600x1160 mode would be very useful.

Try the -screen argument, as in

XWin :0.0 -scrollbars -screen 0 1600 1160 ...

HTH
Igor
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Re: X/Cygwin icon proposal

2004-03-09 Thread Nahor
Michael Bax wrote:
What do you think?
Let me play medium...I sye... you don't have a black desktop! :)
The icon is completely invisible on black background.
And the logo is not smooth, i.e. the line are not of homogeneous thickness.
I suggest that, instead of removing the white specks (which are actually 
shades of gray to smooth the black lines), you actually make a real 
white line around the black area.

All in all, I prefer the current icon. And that has nothing to do with 
the fact that I made it. No, definitely not! ;)

Anyway, attached is one with a real white line around it. Some may like 
it better. I'm 50-50 between the current one and the one attached.

	Nahor
inline: X.ico

Re: XWin 4.3.0-50 crashes with -multiwindow

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
I don't have any ideas.  Sorry.

Harold

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello.

I am running Cygwin X server on a Windows 2000 machine. Installed packages
are
XFree86-base4.3.0-1OK
XFree86-bin 4.3.0-9OK
XFree86-etc 4.3.0-6OK
XFree86-fenc4.2.0-3OK
XFree86-fnts4.2.0-3OK
XFree86-lib 4.3.0-1OK
XFree86-lib-compat  4.3.0-2OK
XFree86-prog4.3.0-13   OK
XFree86-startup-scripts 4.2.0-5OK
XFree86-xserv   4.3.0-50   OK
I then compiled VICE (http://www.viceteam.org) and launched the program
x64 with option -display in order to make it use my Cygwin X server. If
the
server is launched with -multiwindow, it crashes when the application executes
the line
new_item = XtVaCreateManagedWidget(name,
   smeBSBObjectClass,
w,
   XtNrightMargin, 20,
   XtNleftMargin, 20,
   XtNlabel,
   label + 1,
   NULL);
(it is in file src/arch/unix/xaw/uimenu.c at line 318). The application
does not crash, but the next X instruction makes it exit with
X connection to localhost:0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).

Exiting...

Nothing happens if the server is in single-window mode: the application
and the server run fine.
The X server gives this stack dump

Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=610AAEFC
eax= ebx=17A8 ecx=10169E08 edx=005151F8 esi=10169E10 edi=1016B5B0
ebp=018DED84 esp=018DED6C program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe
cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs= ss=0023
Stack trace:
Frame Function  Args
018DED84  610AAEFC  (181489E0, 0029, 611489C0, 0001)
018DEDB4  61054B85  (10169E10, , , 0030)
018DEE14  61086211  (0020, 0018, 101890E0, 101563C8)
018DEEC4  0044B721  (10168A90, C001, 100EF9A4, 10167050)
018DEEE4  0044B8ED  (008F, 100EF998, 00CB, 00CB)
018DEF34  00442ED2  (100E9168, , , )
018DEF74  610A024F  (100EFA80, 018DEFAC, 610A01E0, )
018DEFA4  61003D64  (, , , )
018DFFA4  61003D0E  (, , , )
End of stack trace
Bye
Fabrizio
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Re: Solved: AltGr with Solaris 2.6

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Walter Haidinger wrote:

On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Alexander Gottwald wrote:


Hm. 4.3.0-51 does not read XF86Config. So this seems to be not needed.


Well, I forgot to mention that I've edited startxwin.bat to start XFree86 
like this (on one line):

start XWin -multiwindow -clipboard -xf86config C:\cygwin\etc\X11\XF86Config
Doesn't matter.  The code for parsing XF86Config files is no longer 
present in the executable.  It was just a mistake that an error is not 
raised when the -xf86config option is used when XF86Config support has 
not been compiled in.

Harold


XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-51 Performance Improvement

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Takuma Murakami made an improvement to the multi-window code in the 
4.3.0-51 release that restricts redraws to only the changed portions of 
windows.  My earlier review of the original code made me believe that 
the code was redrawing the entire contents of each window, regardless of 
whether they had changed any or not, so I believe that Takuma's change 
is correct.  In addition, I tested Takuma's change on a program that was 
notorious for exhibiting bad performance in multi-window mode: xfig. 
4.3.0-50 requires 7 seconds to start xfig and there is lots of screen 
flashing during that startup process; other X Servers on Windows did not 
have this problem.  4.3.0-51 takes 2 seconds to start xfig and there is 
no longer any screen flashing.

Takuma's changes are great!  :)

Harold


Re: XWin 4.3.0-50 crashes with -multiwindow

2004-03-09 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 01:47:16PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
I don't have any ideas.  Sorry.

It's dying in a cygwin function.  So, I guess:

http://cygwin.com/problems.html

might be helpful.

cgf

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello.

I am running Cygwin X server on a Windows 2000 machine. Installed packages
are

XFree86-base4.3.0-1OK
XFree86-bin 4.3.0-9OK
XFree86-etc 4.3.0-6OK
XFree86-fenc4.2.0-3OK
XFree86-fnts4.2.0-3OK
XFree86-lib 4.3.0-1OK
XFree86-lib-compat  4.3.0-2OK
XFree86-prog4.3.0-13   OK
XFree86-startup-scripts 4.2.0-5OK
XFree86-xserv   4.3.0-50   OK

I then compiled VICE (http://www.viceteam.org) and launched the program
x64 with option -display in order to make it use my Cygwin X server. If
the
server is launched with -multiwindow, it crashes when the application 
executes
the line

new_item = XtVaCreateManagedWidget(name,
   smeBSBObjectClass,
w,
   XtNrightMargin, 20,
   XtNleftMargin, 20,
   XtNlabel,
   label + 1,
   NULL);

(it is in file src/arch/unix/xaw/uimenu.c at line 318). The application
does not crash, but the next X instruction makes it exit with

X connection to localhost:0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).

Exiting...

Nothing happens if the server is in single-window mode: the application
and the server run fine.

The X server gives this stack dump

Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=610AAEFC
eax= ebx=17A8 ecx=10169E08 edx=005151F8 esi=10169E10 
edi=1016B5B0
ebp=018DED84 esp=018DED6C program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe
cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs= ss=0023
Stack trace:
Frame Function  Args
018DED84  610AAEFC  (181489E0, 0029, 611489C0, 0001)
018DEDB4  61054B85  (10169E10, , , 0030)
018DEE14  61086211  (0020, 0018, 101890E0, 101563C8)
018DEEC4  0044B721  (10168A90, C001, 100EF9A4, 10167050)
018DEEE4  0044B8ED  (008F, 100EF998, 00CB, 00CB)
018DEF34  00442ED2  (100E9168, , , )
018DEF74  610A024F  (100EFA80, 018DEFAC, 610A01E0, )
018DEFA4  61003D64  (, , , )
018DFFA4  61003D0E  (, , , )
End of stack trace

Bye
Fabrizio

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Re: XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-51 Performance Improvement

2004-03-09 Thread Takuma Murakami
That is just a starting point of my optimization.
4.3.0-52 release should be more impressive :)

Takuma Murakami


 Takuma Murakami made an improvement to the multi-window code in the 
 4.3.0-51 release that restricts redraws to only the changed portions of 
 windows.  My earlier review of the original code made me believe that 
 the code was redrawing the entire contents of each window, regardless of 
 whether they had changed any or not, so I believe that Takuma's change 
 is correct.  In addition, I tested Takuma's change on a program that was 
 notorious for exhibiting bad performance in multi-window mode: xfig. 
 4.3.0-50 requires 7 seconds to start xfig and there is lots of screen 
 flashing during that startup process; other X Servers on Windows did not 
 have this problem.  4.3.0-51 takes 2 seconds to start xfig and there is 
 no longer any screen flashing.
 
 Takuma's changes are great!  :)
 
 Harold



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Re: XWin Xserver maximum root area exceeded?

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Brigitte,

Bonert Brigitte wrote:
Hello,
Thank you very much for your answer.
I am sorry I think I left out too many details when describing my problem.
The application I am running is proprietory but I do have the code and I
actually changed the code to get as far as I am with this (it is a part of
an Energy Management system and I am using its console interface code to
display the status of of the high voltage grid on a display wall .. these
are special pictures with symbols for generators/switches/lines etc).
Okay.

Do you run only this app by itself (or are other applications supposed 
to show on the display wall at the same time?).  If it is the only 
application, then see what happens when you run XWin.exe like this:

XWin -fullscreen -depth 8

That would allow you to leave Windows in 16, 24, or 32 bit color, while 
XWin would switch the display to 8 bit color when it received the focus. 
 You would probably want to run a window manager such as 'twm' so you 
could move windows around.  But just try running your application first 
to see what happens.

I do not think that my application cannot handle a root area of 12800x2048
(or 6400x2048 which is the minimum I need) but suspect that cygwin/X cannot.
My reasoning for this is that the application runs without error with the X
server WinaXe6.7 (for which I have a special version that can handle a
12800x2048 root area sent to me from LabF.com). The problem with WinaXe is
that it uses a lot more CPU time than cygwin/X, when I compare them (using
of course the root area in which both work).  Because of this I would really
like to use the cygwin X server but cannot, because of the problem I
encountered.
Hmm... we seem to be missing the answer to one question: does any app 
work in Cygwin/X at 12800x2048?  In other words, can you run an 'xterm', 
drag it to one monitor at a time, and verify that it operates correctly 
when you type in and run a command like 'ls'?

If yes: Cygwin/X is working just fine in 12800x2048 mode.  As I 
previously requested, try sending your application the -geometry 
parameter to restrict its size when Cygwin/X is running in 12800x2048. 
It will be useful to know if your application still fails to run in this 
case (e.g. -gemotry 6400x2048+0+0).

If no: What happens?  Please be precise in your description.  If 
Cygwin/X fails to start in this configuration, then send in 
/tmp/XWin.log from an instance when this happens.  A failure to start 
could probably be fixed, but any other sort of failure (like one or two 
of the monitors not drawing the xterm correctly) might be harder to fix.

I'll need to know this information in order to diagnose the problem further.

I am using a Windows2000 workstation with special Display driver code (this
is code from the company which also builds the projectors) and I am not
really sure that Windows2000 knows that it has 20 monitors I tried the
multimonitor option just in case it helps but it does not appear to. 
That is fine... it even eliminates some possible failures.

A friend recommended using xmon to find out more of what is happening. 
Do you have experience with xmon?
No, I do not know what it is.

What happened to the option emulatepseudo ?
My X application uses Pseudo colours and in order to get the cgywin Xserver
to work I had to set the number of colours to 256 for my display definition
on the PC
(very ugly when wanting to run other applications).
-emulatepseudo did not do anything useful.  It was a placeholder for a 
feature I was working on.  Somebody has told me they are working on 
proper PseudoColor emulation that will work on all platforms, but they 
haven't finished it yet in the past two months.  I don't have an ETA for 
this either.

Harold


Re: X/Cygwin icon proposal

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Nahor,

Hmm... that is an interesting change.  I am now split 33-33-33 between 
the current, the one in CVS, and the one you just sent :)

I really don't know which I prefer.

Harold

Nahor wrote:

Michael Bax wrote:

What do you think?


Let me play medium...I sye... you don't have a black 
desktop! :)
The icon is completely invisible on black background.

And the logo is not smooth, i.e. the line are not of homogeneous thickness.
I suggest that, instead of removing the white specks (which are actually 
shades of gray to smooth the black lines), you actually make a real 
white line around the black area.

All in all, I prefer the current icon. And that has nothing to do with 
the fact that I made it. No, definitely not! ;)

Anyway, attached is one with a real white line around it. Some may like 
it better. I'm 50-50 between the current one and the one attached.

Nahor


Re: X/Cygwin icon proposal

2004-03-09 Thread Nahor
Harold L Hunt II wrote:
Hmm... that is an interesting change.  I am now split 33-33-33 between 
the current, the one in CVS, and the one you just sent :)
I haven't seen the one in CVS. Is there a simple way to get it without 
having to checkout the whole source?

	Nahor



Re: X/Cygwin icon proposal

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Yeah, save the following link to disk:

http://pdx.freedesktop.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xwin/X.ico?rev=1.1.6.1only_with_tag=CYGWINcvsroot=xorg

Harold

Nahor wrote:

Harold L Hunt II wrote:

Hmm... that is an interesting change.  I am now split 33-33-33 between 
the current, the one in CVS, and the one you just sent :)


I haven't seen the one in CVS. Is there a simple way to get it without 
having to checkout the whole source?

Nahor




Re: Could not open default font 'fixed'

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Jeff,

Jeff Wolkove wrote:

I had the above error when I attempted to run startxwin.bat. The FAQ says
I should nudge the mailing list so here I am nudging. Does anyone know
of a fix for this error? Let me know if you need any further details.
Yes, we all know the answer, but it looks like it took me quite a long 
time to get around to updating the FAQ :)

There is now a detailed answer were there was previously a request to 
nudge the mailing list by 2003-01-31... I hope I mistyped that as 2003 
when it really should have been 2004.  It would be a little silly if it 
really took longer than a year to revisit this issue.

http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-error-font-eof

Harold


Re: XWin crash when running Oracle installer

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Rob,

It sounds like both you and Fabrizio are having the same problem (crash 
in multi-window mode, no crash in single window mode):

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-03/msg00221.html

Other than telling you to try XFree86-xserv-4.3.0-52, I can only tell 
you to wait and see if I can duplicate the problem that Fabrizio 
reported.  Fabrizio's problem happens with an open source application 
compiled under Cygwin, so I should be able to duplicate his problem and 
perhaps debug it a little.

Please monitor the mailing list, or feel free to try debugging this 
further on your own, perhaps using the VICE program linked to in the 
email above.

Harold

Rob Foehl wrote:

XWin.exe is crashing (persistently) when running the Oracle 8.1.7 Java
installer remotely from a Solaris system, tunneled via ssh.  This only
happens in multiwindow mode; the installer will run without issues when X
is running with a root window.  Crash occurs after the initial loading..
screen is displayed; unfortunately, I don't have much more detail than
this.  A stack dump of the X server is below..  This is -51, and I haven't
tested with any other releases.  Please let me know if there is more
specific information I can provide..
Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION at eip=610AAEFC
eax=611489F4 ebx=0CA0 ecx=10391628 edx=00330030 esi=10392238 edi=103922C8
ebp=018FEDE4 esp=018FEDCC program=C:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\XWin.exe
cs=001B ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0038 gs= ss=0023
Stack trace:
Frame Function  Args
018FEDE4  610AAEFC  (0001, 0F70, 4000, 018FEE14)
018FEE14  61054B85  (10392238, 0020, 0001, 0018)
018FEEC4  61086211  (1025FE70, C001, 100EE0CC, 1017C768)
018FEEE4  0044B8ED  (00A000C8, 00A000C8, 00CA, 00CA)
018FEF34  00442ED2  (100E7890, , , )
018FEF74  610A024F  (100EE1A8, 018FEFAC, 610A01E0, )
018FEFA4  61003D64  (, , , )
018FFFA4  61003D0E  (, , , )
End of stack trace



Re: XWin Architecture

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
Jeremy,

Jeremy Wilkins wrote:

Hi,

I'm curious about how the cygwin XWin server works?
Curious, or interested in helping?  If just curious, then please wait a 
few days or dig through the archives... I have described it in detail a 
few times.  Perhaps the following answers will be all you need.

My understanding is it is similar to an X Server on linux but instead of 
rendering to the graphics card framebuffer, it is rendered to an 
offscreen surface and then bitblt'd to an on screen pixmap using direct 
draw, or GDI if dd is unavailable.
That is correct.

Does the MacOS X Xserver work in the same way?
Yes.

Does this use a lot of existing code, eg from either vnc or xvfb servers?
Yes, but not from vnc or xvfb.  There is a generic layer written by 
Keith Packard called fb that draws to framebuffers using the cpu. 
This fb layer replaced the old cfb and mfb layers that did the 
same thing but were crufty and designed for the cpu being the constraint 
(think 1980's) rather than the buses to and from memory and other 
peripherals being the constraint (think today).

How does the rootless stuff work, does this just figure out where the 
top level windows are and only bitblt those but into separate 
surfaces/windows.
Well, that is sort of a dangerous question.  There is the original 
rootless mode that Kensuke wrote a while back.  That mode just keeps 
track of the top-level X11 windows and clips transfers to our single 
Win32 window to the region that is occupied by X11 windows, thus 
preventing the root window from being drawn.  You will note that all of 
the X11 windows appear to float in the same plane when you use -rootless 
in the current versions of XWin.exe.

There is also multi-window, but that is a little more complex in that it 
has an internal window manager and it creates a Win32 window for each 
top-level X11 window and provides management of those windows.  This one 
does bitblt to particular Win32 windows, whereas the aforementioned 
rootless mode only had a single Win32 window.

I've read somewhere that there is some generic rootless code in the xc 
tree, where abouts is this?
That is in xc/programs/Xserver/miext/rootless.  Kensuke's latest work 
has centered around getting this to work.  He has a new window manager 
written that is more complete than the current multi-window window 
manager.  However, there are still significant bugs in this 
implementation and we are not even building releases from the source 
tree with that code in it yet.

Torrey Lyons just sent me a draft description of how miext/rootless 
works.  Hopefully he will finish it soon so I can point you to it.  It 
really is an interesting layer and it allows optimization of some simple 
cases that will have quite a large performance impact.

Harold


Default Xserver Resolution

2004-03-09 Thread Andrew Blakey
Is there a way to force the Xserver to start with 100dpi X 100dpi
resolution?

I am running Cygwin and Xwin on a laptop with 1600 x 1200 windows resolution
and the fonts with 75dpi X 75dpi resolution are quite small.  I have all
relevant fonts installed and tried to change the fontpath to have 100dpi
fonts listed first using the -fp switch.  I have also tried adding -dpi 100
to the Xservers file.

Thanks
Andrew



Re: Default Xserver Resolution

2004-03-09 Thread Harold L Hunt II
You need to use the -dpi 100 option for XWin.exe.  I would suggest 
doing that first from a Cygwin bash shell to try it, then edit your 
startup script to add the option permanently.

Harold

Andrew Blakey wrote:

Is there a way to force the Xserver to start with 100dpi X 100dpi
resolution?
I am running Cygwin and Xwin on a laptop with 1600 x 1200 windows resolution
and the fonts with 75dpi X 75dpi resolution are quite small.  I have all
relevant fonts installed and tried to change the fontpath to have 100dpi
fonts listed first using the -fp switch.  I have also tried adding -dpi 100
to the Xservers file.
Thanks
Andrew



Re: Could not open default font 'fixed'

2004-03-09 Thread Jeff Wolkove
Thanks, Harold. The fix worked.

At 08:47 PM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
Jeff,

Jeff Wolkove wrote:

I had the above error when I attempted to run startxwin.bat. The FAQ says
I should nudge the mailing list so here I am nudging. Does anyone know
of a fix for this error? Let me know if you need any further details.
Yes, we all know the answer, but it looks like it took me quite a long 
time to get around to updating the FAQ :)

There is now a detailed answer were there was previously a request to 
nudge the mailing list by 2003-01-31... I hope I mistyped that as 2003 
when it really should have been 2004.  It would be a little silly if it 
really took longer than a year to revisit this issue.

http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html#q-error-font-eof

Harold




Re: libungif - Depends on obsolete X libraries - Rebuild for approval by maintainer

2004-03-09 Thread Frédéric L. W. Meunier
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote:

 Lapo Luchini wrote:

  Actually I was thinking about using --without-x in next release.
  But no other program seems to use it, except WMaker, that uses X11 anyway.
 
 There doesn't seem to be a reason to do --without-x since libungif has
 used it for two years without major problems.

These aren't really strong arguments.

Lapo is assuming that only WindowMaker uses libungif because
it's the only application linked to it in Cygwin.

You're assuming libungif should depend on XFree86 because it
worked fine with it for 2 years.

linbugif compiled with --without-x will work fine too, and also
enable other people who don't want to install XFree86 to use
the library or any tools, except gif2x11.

But, again, is it so hard to make 2 packages, one with
--without-x ?

I understand the same could be made for gd, after all only a
few people are likely using the xpm support, which is what adds
the XFree86-bin requirement.

Anyway, it's just my opinion. I really don't use both on Cygwin
(but do on a few Linux machines, where space matters).

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Re: OpenSSH configuration and many recent problems

2004-03-09 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar  8 14:21, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
 Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 Especially I don't see why this setting should have another default on
 Cygwin as on any other OS.  There's no difference between Cygwin and
 other OSes which justifies this measure, right?
 
 The only difference I can think of is that none of the other ssh 
 implementations (that I know of) on our platform, such as PuTTY and SSH 
 Secure Shell, enable this feature by default (or even have this feature).

I'm more concerned about differences between OpenSSH installation on
different OSes, not about other SSH implementations, actually.

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SNDCTL_DSP_CHANNELS ioctl not implemented

2004-03-09 Thread fabrizio . ge
Hello.

I compiled a program intended for Unix on Cygwin. It has a slight problem:
sound does not work because the program tries to call the SNDCTL_DSP_CHANNELS
ioctl on /dev/dsp, and it fails.

Looking at the source code, that ioctl is not implemented in fhandler_dsp.cc,
although it is defined in the header file.

fhandler_dsp.cc implements a similar ioctl, SNDCTL_DSP_STEREO, which takes
the arguments, increments it by 1 and sets the variable audiochannels_ to
the result. Maybe SNDCTL_DSP_CHANNELS would be identical, just without the
increbent by 1, but I am no expert so I cannot be sure.

Is it possible to implement SNDCTL_DSP_CHANNELS in future versions of Cygwin?

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offline

2004-03-09 Thread Michal Plichta
how to instal cygwin offline... i need bash (sh) and cvs... i need to run
cvs on my computer and sombody told me so... you need cygwin please
help me

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[ANNOUNCEMENT] New package: TeXmacs-1.0.3.3-1: A scientific wysiwyg Editor and Interface for Computer Algebra Systems

2004-03-09 Thread Andreas Seidl

The package TeXmacs is now available with the Cygwin distribution.

Canonical homepage:
   http://texmacs.org

Canonical download:
   ftp://ftp.texmacs.org/pub/TeXmacs/targz/


DESCRIPTION:

GNU TeXmacs is a free scientific text editor, which was both
inspired by TeX and GNU Emacs. The editor allows you to write
structured documents via a wysiwyg (what-you-see-is-what-you-get) and
user friendly interface. New styles may be created by the user. The
program implements high-quality typesetting algorithms and TeX fonts,
which help you to produce professionally looking documents.

The high typesetting quality still goes through for automatically
generated formulas, which makes TeXmacs suitable as an interface for
computer algebra systems. TeXmacs also supports the Guile/Scheme
extension language, so that you may customize the interface and write
your own extensions to the editor.

Converters exist for TeX/LaTeX and Html/MathML/Xml. In the future,
TeXmacs is planned to evolve towards a complete scientific office
suite.


GETTING STARTED QUICKLY:


1. Install TeXmacs
--

To update your installation, click on the Install Cygwin now link on
the http://cygwin.com/ web page.  This downloads setup.exe to your
system.  Once you've downloaded setup.exe, run it and select Editors
or Math and then click on the appropriate fields until the above
announced version number appears if it is not displayed already.

2. Start and test your X


Double click on the Cygwin icon on your Desktop, this brings up a black
Cygwin shell. Type:

   export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0
   XWin -multiwindow -clipboard 
   xterm 

In the tray in the lower right corner of your screen you will see a
black X and an additional (white) window should appear. In order not to
set the DISPLAY variable again and again, you should set it as a user's
variable; e.g. under Windows XP:
Start-Control_Panel-System-Advanced-Environment_variables

3. Start TeXmacs


... by typing

   texmacs 

into a Cygwin shell. Try a second time, if there is a problem.

4. Hands-on tutorial


I suggest to try Part 1-3 of the following hands-on tutorial:
http://www.fmi.uni-passau.de/~seidl/texmacs/tmtour.html#3


FURTHER INFORMATION:


If you have TeXmacs-related questions or comments, please send them to
the texmac-users mailing list, see:

   http://lists.texmacs.org/wws/info/texmacs-users

(subscription necessary). I would appreciate it if you would use this
mailing list rather than emailing me directly. Cygwin-related
questions and comments should be sent to the Cygwin mailing list at:
cygwin at cygwin dot com .

Before emailing these lists, make sure to

* read the FAQ at: http://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/help/faq.en.html

* look at the manual, which comes with TeXmacs and which can be browsed
at: http://www.texmacs.org/tmweb/manual/web-manual.en.html

* read about some Windows-related issues at
http://www.fmi.uni-passau.de/~seidl/texmacs/tmtour.html#issues

* search the mailing lists and Google


Have lots of fun with TeXmacs!

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cygwin1.dll page fault Win95

2004-03-09 Thread Alistair Bell
Hi,

I'm running cygwin on  a Win95 machine and have a problem that I often get
the windows error box up saying  the program caused an invalid page fault in
cygwin1.dll, its always at the same address and occurs for a range of
programs, when wish closes, when xwin runs ...

It is solved by downgrading to cygwin 1.5.5-1 rather than the latest
1.5.7-1.

It doesn't stop me running things, I just ignore the error boxes and things
seem to run OK, I then click close  program from the error box when I close
the program.

There may be some bright ideas to try so my post is for anyone to send me
fault finding ideas, the fault doesn't bother me particularly but it
probably should be fixed (unless of course it is me being stupid!)! Although
no great programmer I am experienced with windows and linux.

Regards

Alistair Bell

WISH84 caused an invalid page fault in
module CYGWIN1.DLL at 014f:6108620d.
Registers:
EAX=10014217 CS=014f EIP=6108620d EFLGS=00010296
EBX=0001 SS=0157 ESP=00c6fbe8 EBP=00c6fc0c
ECX=800042f8 DS=0157 ESI=0014 FS=583f
EDX=bff6136d ES=0157 EDI=0014 GS=
Bytes at CS:EIP:
89 02 5a c3 50 52 ba fc ff ff ff 64 a1 04 00 00 
Stack dump:
0001 61054c10 61086211 0014 bff61371 00c67000  0001
004da2a0 00c6fc2c 1006f1b8 0014 0041 00c6fc3c 0001 81687efc 
 cygcheck.out 


cygcheck.out
Description: Binary data
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Re: zsh 4.1.1-3 on W2000 hangs with command not found

2004-03-09 Thread Davide Marchignoli
Hi all,

I installed the latest snapshot as suggested and indeed it works (also
with correct and correctall options set).
Thank you very much for your help,

Davide Marchignoli

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Question about cygwin dll path

2004-03-09 Thread Davide Marchignoli
I wonder if it would be possible to move the dll from the /bin or any 
other directory in PATH.

For instance, could they be moved in /lib/win32 or something like that?

Thanks,
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Re: please try the latest snapshot

2004-03-09 Thread Rajesh Balakrishnan
Hi,

This snapshot (20040306) fixes some of the problems with running emacs.
The problem existed even with snapshot of 20040225 (hadn't tried 0305).

emacs (under X11) has been running fine for over a day now.
It used to crash randomly (SEGV), earlier.

Thanks,
rb

Christopher Faylor wrote: 
 The latest snapshot should fix virtual memory exhausted errors that
 were reported when running make -j.
 
 I am close to releasing cygwin 1.5.8 so I want to verify that this is
 fixed.
 
 http://cygwin.com/snapshots/
 
 cgf


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Re: rebaseall with extra files

2004-03-09 Thread Jason Tishler
Yitzchak,

On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 01:55:03PM -0800, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 04:32:53PM -0500, Jason Tishler wrote:
  I will attempt to add an option to rebaseall that allows one to
  specify a list of extra DLLs to rebase in addition to the standard
  ones.  Sorry, no ETA, but hopefully soon.
 
 So you would have to do something like:
 
 rebaseall -T `find /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.2 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2 -iname 
 '*.dll'`
 
 ?  That could get to be a pretty long command line; I have only a few
 module distributions installed and 8k of dll filenames.

No, the command line syntax would be the same as the one for rebase in
this regard:

$ rebase
usage: rebase -b BaseAddress [-Vdv] [-o Offset] [-T FileList | -] Files...
^

Hence, the above usage would be the following instead:

$ find /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.2 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.2 -iname '*.dll' | 
rebaseall -T -

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Re: Question about cygwin dll path

2004-03-09 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar  9 13:22, Davide Marchignoli wrote:
 I wonder if it would be possible to move the dll from the /bin or any 
 other directory in PATH.
 
 For instance, could they be moved in /lib/win32 or something like that?

No.  On Windows, DLLs are searched in $PATH, unfortunately.

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emacs / libICE.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Oodini
Hello,

I've just installed Cygwin on Windows 2000 to learn Unix stuff, and I 
don't succeed to run emacs.

Windows looks for the missing dll libICE.dll.

Please note that I don't know Unix, except some basic command.

Thanks for help.

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RE: emacs / libICE.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Max . Hyre
   Dear Oodini/Cygwin:

 I've just installed Cygwin on Windows 2000 to learn Unix stuff, and I 
 don't succeed to run emacs.

   FWIW, I encountered this as well.  I'm trying to get a handle
on another problem, and as one attempt I tried a fresh (zap all
Cygwin registry entries, rename my Cygwin directory and packages
repository), minimal (base plus emacs and enough X to support it)
install.  emacs failed to start, giving a Windows dialog box with
the same complaint about libICE's unavailability.  The paths
looked OK, and after a bit of thrashing around I went back to the
old installation.

   I'll repeat the minimalist effort if there's any additional
information you'd like to hear about, like the cygcheck output
therefrom.

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RE: emacs / libICE.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Max . Hyre
   Dear Cygwin:

 emacs failed to start, giving a Windows dialog box with
 the same complaint about libICE's unavailability.

   Oops---I forgot to mention that libICE was there, just
not being found by emacs.

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dvips failing to include cmdunh10 font definition

2004-03-09 Thread Tim Reid
I believe I have found a problem with dvips. If I run LaTeX against the
following file:

\documentclass[a4paper]{article}
\font\anewfont=cmdunh10

\begin{document}
This is in the normal Computer Modern font.
{\anewfont This is in the vertically expanded Computer Modern font.
It looks fine in the DVI viewer.}
However, when using:
\begin{quote}
\texttt{dvips(k) 5.92b Copyright 2002 Radical Eye Software
(www.radicaleye.com)}
\end{quote}
it gets replaced with a fixed-width font, but using the correct letter
spacings. This means that it looks {\anewfont very odd indeed}.
\end{document}

I get a DVI file which looks just fine, and displays just fine using
MiKTeX's Yap viewer. Furthermore, when I run dvips from the MiKTeX
distribution on it, it produces a PostScript file which looks fine.
However, when I run dvips from the teTeX package in Cygwin on the same
DVI file, the resultant PostScript file displays and prints wrongly,
with the wrong font used for the bit which should be cmdunh10. Looking at
the PostScript messages produced in GSview, it seems to be substituting
Courier, as CMDUNH10 isn't defined. Examining the PostScript file, there
seems to be no definition of the cmdunh10 font, although it looks as if
dvips is trying to include one. The file contains the following extract:

.
.
.

cleartomark
%%EndFont
%%BeginFont: CMDUNH10
%%EndFont
%%BeginFont: CMR10
%!PS-AdobeFont-1.1: CMR10 1.00B
%%CreationDate: 1992 Feb 19 19:54:52
.
.
.

So the cmdunh10 definition is just not there. Is anyone able to reproduce
this problem?
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Re: emacs / libICE.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Oodini (2004-03-09 14:12 +0100)
 I've just installed Cygwin on Windows 2000 to learn Unix stuff, and I 
 don't succeed to run emacs.
 
 Windows looks for the missing dll libICE.dll.

http://www.cygwin.com/packages


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tetex (latex) permission problem on NT

2004-03-09 Thread d j

Dear All,

I could not find any reference to this anywhere, so
FYI or maybe for the FAQ:

Running Cygwin 1.5.7-1 on XP professional, any attempt
to run latex produced an immediate permission error on
texmf.cnf ('cannot access', if I recall well). I
noticed that some of the files in the texmf subdir
have a  'group' property of Users, other of 'None'
(which is everyone, afaik). 

I logged in to XP as Admin and recursively allowed
Users access to files/directories under texmf. This
solved the problem.

I think my problem was related to the fact that my
login is domain controlled (ie not local to the
machine). This renders me a member of the group Users,
who don't have access to all files in the texmf
directory. 

I am not exactly an expert on the confusing topic of
NT vs unix vs cygwin permissions, so correct me if
what I did is overkill.

CHeers,
Dirk
 


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Re: dvips failing to include cmdunh10 font definition

2004-03-09 Thread Demmer, Thomas
Hi Tim,
works for me:

...
%%BeginFont: CMDUNH10
%!PS-AdobeFont-1.1: CMDUNH10 1.0
%%CreationDate: 1991 Aug 20 16:37:03
% Copyright (C) 1997 American Mathematical Society. All Rights Reserved.
11 dict begin
/FontInfo 7 dict dup begin
/version (1.0) readonly def
/Notice (Copyright (C) 1997 American Mathematical Society. All Rights
Reserved) readonly def
/FullName (CMDUNH10) readonly def
...


How does pdflatex look like?


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Backend doesn't catch the next command, after SIGUSR2

2004-03-09 Thread Patrick Samson
If I run a test script enough time, it eventually
freezes in this deadlock situation:

The client sends a command to a backend and waits
for an answer. It will wait forever because the
backend
is not aware of the arrival of the request and waits
for a next command.

What happens in the loop is:
 SIInsertDataEntry: table is 70% full,
 signaling postmaster

 In reaction, the postmaster sends to its children:
 SignalChildren: sending signal 31 to process pid

Most of the time, it works. But at an unpredictable
iteration, it freezes.

This problem appeared first in a replication
machinery, so I reduced the number of components
involved, to get a simpler test case:
A pgtcl script, running a loop with:
 create table from another-table
 copy table to file
 drop table

The 'create table' regularly fires the '70% full'
event, and at some point, the 'copy' never gets
answered.

I attached these files:
- test.tcl: the script to run.
  Change these values to meet your context:

 set srctable pgr_qryengine_log
 set dbname euronetUsers

  The source table can be anything empty.
  In my case, it's:
CREATE TABLE public.pgr_qryengine_log
(
  pgr_sid int4 NOT NULL,
  tablename varchar(50),
  pgr_gfid int8 NOT NULL,
  pgr_grid int8 NOT NULL,
  pgr_optype varchar(2),
  pgr_when timestamp,
  pgr_username varchar(30),
  qry_result text
) WITH OIDS;

- postmaster-ok.log
 The traces of a successful iteration.
- postmaster-ko.log
 The traces of the forever waiting iteration.
 EOF is received on a ctrl/c on the client side.

Comparison of the traces shows that the signals
are processed, but the backend doesn't start a
StartTransactionCommand for the expected 'copy'.

I don't know the exact conditions for the freeze to
arise. I just noticed that chances are higher if
there is a lot of postgres.exe processes alive.
I could run 1 runs without any extra backends.
So I opened a pgAdmin III session to have many
connexions (on multiple db, with different accounts).
With 7 to 10 processes, I reached the freeze at
3392, 2027, 6729, 272, 1871 runs.

I tried to strace the postmaster, but never managed
to have the problem. I guess strace slow down the
system too much.
I just have a strace of a correct iteration.

Done on:
- postgres 7.3.5, W2000 SP2, cygwin 1.5.5-1
- postgres 7.3.5, NT SP6, cygwin 1.5.7-1

I can't tell if the source of the problem is in
cygwin or in postgres, so I post in the two lists.

Would be helpful if anybody can reproduce the
problem, or provide advices to progress on the
debugging work.

Patrick




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Description: test.tcl


postmaster-ok.log
Description: postmaster-ok.log


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Re: dvips failing to include cmdunh10 font definition

2004-03-09 Thread Tim Reid
How does pdflatex look like?
Good question. I've not used pdflatex before, so I can't be sure whether
I'm doing this right:
==
$ pdflatex bug1
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.14159-1.10b (Web2C 7.4.5)
%-line parsing enabled.
(./bug1.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
LaTeX2e 2001/06/01
Babel v3.7h and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, 
ngerman, n
ohyphenation, loaded.
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (./bug1.aux)
Overfull \hbox (77.74681pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 13--14
[]/cmtt10/dvips(k) 5.92b Copyright 2002 Radical Eye Software 
(www.radicaleye.co
m)
[1
Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): cannot open font map file
] (./bug1.aux) )
(see the transcript file for additional information)
Warning: pdflatex (file cmtt10): Font cmtt10 at 1200 not found

Warning: pdflatex (file cmdunh10): Font cmdunh10 at 1200 not found

Warning: pdflatex (file cmr10): Font cmr10 at 1200 not found
Output written on bug1.pdf (1 page, 1325 bytes).
Transcript written on bug1.log.
==
It looks as if it's not finding any of the font definitions. Perhaps
unsurprisingly, I just get a PDF file which gives font errors when I
try to load it, and then gives a blank page.
Should I have some environment variables set up?

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Re: offline

2004-03-09 Thread Larry Hall
At 04:09 AM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
how to instal cygwin offline... i need bash (sh) and cvs... i need to run
cvs on my computer and sombody told me so... you need cygwin please
help me


You'll need to run setup.exe from a machine that has Internet access and 
choose Download from Internet instead of Install from Internet.
Take the directory you downloaded and the setup.exe program to the target
machine, rerun setup.exe, and this time choose Install from local 
directory, pointing at the directory you brought to this target machine. 
This will allow you to install any or all packages you originally 
downloaded .



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Re: Backend doesn't catch the next command, after SIGUSR2

2004-03-09 Thread Larry Hall
 From the information provided, I can't tell if the problem is noticed with
both Cygwin 1.5.5 and 1.5.7 or only 1.5.7.  If it's the latter, try the 
most recent snapshot and see if that helps.  

Larry


At 10:28 AM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
If I run a test script enough time, it eventually
freezes in this deadlock situation:

The client sends a command to a backend and waits
for an answer. It will wait forever because the
backend
is not aware of the arrival of the request and waits
for a next command.

What happens in the loop is:
 SIInsertDataEntry: table is 70% full,
 signaling postmaster

 In reaction, the postmaster sends to its children:
 SignalChildren: sending signal 31 to process pid

Most of the time, it works. But at an unpredictable
iteration, it freezes.

This problem appeared first in a replication
machinery, so I reduced the number of components
involved, to get a simpler test case:
A pgtcl script, running a loop with:
 create table from another-table
 copy table to file
 drop table

The 'create table' regularly fires the '70% full'
event, and at some point, the 'copy' never gets
answered.

I attached these files:
- test.tcl: the script to run.
  Change these values to meet your context:

 set srctable pgr_qryengine_log
 set dbname euronetUsers

  The source table can be anything empty.
  In my case, it's:
CREATE TABLE public.pgr_qryengine_log
(
  pgr_sid int4 NOT NULL,
  tablename varchar(50),
  pgr_gfid int8 NOT NULL,
  pgr_grid int8 NOT NULL,
  pgr_optype varchar(2),
  pgr_when timestamp,
  pgr_username varchar(30),
  qry_result text
) WITH OIDS;

- postmaster-ok.log
 The traces of a successful iteration.
- postmaster-ko.log
 The traces of the forever waiting iteration.
 EOF is received on a ctrl/c on the client side.

Comparison of the traces shows that the signals
are processed, but the backend doesn't start a
StartTransactionCommand for the expected 'copy'.

I don't know the exact conditions for the freeze to
arise. I just noticed that chances are higher if
there is a lot of postgres.exe processes alive.
I could run 1 runs without any extra backends.
So I opened a pgAdmin III session to have many
connexions (on multiple db, with different accounts).
With 7 to 10 processes, I reached the freeze at
3392, 2027, 6729, 272, 1871 runs.

I tried to strace the postmaster, but never managed
to have the problem. I guess strace slow down the
system too much.
I just have a strace of a correct iteration.

Done on:
- postgres 7.3.5, W2000 SP2, cygwin 1.5.5-1
- postgres 7.3.5, NT SP6, cygwin 1.5.7-1

I can't tell if the source of the problem is in
cygwin or in postgres, so I post in the two lists.

Would be helpful if anybody can reproduce the
problem, or provide advices to progress on the
debugging work.

Patrick




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Re: SNDCTL_DSP_CHANNELS ioctl not implemented

2004-03-09 Thread Larry Hall
At 03:30 AM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
Hello.

I compiled a program intended for Unix on Cygwin. It has a slight problem:
sound does not work because the program tries to call the SNDCTL_DSP_CHANNELS
ioctl on /dev/dsp, and it fails.

Looking at the source code, that ioctl is not implemented in fhandler_dsp.cc,
although it is defined in the header file.

fhandler_dsp.cc implements a similar ioctl, SNDCTL_DSP_STEREO, which takes
the arguments, increments it by 1 and sets the variable audiochannels_ to
the result. Maybe SNDCTL_DSP_CHANNELS would be identical, just without the
increbent by 1, but I am no expert so I cannot be sure.

Is it possible to implement SNDCTL_DSP_CHANNELS in future versions of Cygwin?


Sure, if the underlying capabilities of Windows supports it.  Care to submit
a patch to implement it?  


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DDS4 device mnemonic with cygwin

2004-03-09 Thread Mazzotta, Paul
To whom it may concern;

According to the cygwin user's guide, tape drive devices
are mapped to /dev... or /device...  .  Shouldn't you be able
to see these directories from a cygwin window under the
/  directory ?  If so, is it because I did not install all of cygwin
at the time of installation ?   On my Windows 2000 host in a
cygwin window, I need to be able to perform a tar command
in the form:  tar cvf  /dev...(for tape device)  filename.

Any help in resloving this issue is most appreciated !

Paul
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Re: DDS4 device mnemonic with cygwin

2004-03-09 Thread Larry Hall
At 12:27 PM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
To whom it may concern;

According to the cygwin user's guide, tape drive devices
are mapped to /dev... or /device...  .  Shouldn't you be able
to see these directories from a cygwin window under the
/  directory ?  If so, is it because I did not install all of cygwin
at the time of installation ?   On my Windows 2000 host in a
cygwin window, I need to be able to perform a tar command
in the form:  tar cvf  /dev...(for tape device)  filename.

Any help in resloving this issue is most appreciated !


Did you read the first paragraph of the section on POSIX devices in the
User's Guide?

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-specialnames.html#AEN806

It applies to all the devices described in that section.

Also, to correct an incorrect implication in your statement above, the 
POSIX paths for these devices start with /dev, not /device.



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Re: killing processes owned by others with kill.exe

2004-03-09 Thread Rob S.i.k.l.o.s
Hello,

patch attached (diff kill.orig.cc kill.new.cc  kill.cc.patch)

It's taken from the latest source that I got from setup.exe (sorry, no
access to cvs behind firewall).

Just a note, when I tried to make from /usr/src/cygwin-1.5.7-1, I get the
following error:
  make[3]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/cygwin-1.5.7-1/i686-pc-cygwin/winsup/cygserver'
  make[3]: *** No rule to make target
`/src/cygwin-1.5.7-1/winsup/cygwin/winsup.h', needed by `libclient.o'.
Stop.


Rob.

- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Faylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: killing processes owned by others with kill.exe


 On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 05:40:33PM -0500, Rob S.i.k.l.o.s wrote:
 P.S. - I would do this myself, but I don't think I'm qualified to mess
with
 core Cygwin stuff.

 kill.exe is hardly core cygwin stuff.

 I suggest you take a look at the kill.cc code and offer a patch.

 cgf

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Re: Backend doesn't catch the next command, after SIGUSR2

2004-03-09 Thread Patrick Samson

--- Larry Hall wrote:
  From the information provided, I can't tell if the
 problem is noticed with
 both Cygwin 1.5.5 and 1.5.7 or only 1.5.7.  If it's
 the latter, try the 
 most recent snapshot and see if that helps.  
 

 At 10:28 AM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
 
 Done on:
 - postgres 7.3.5, W2000 SP2, cygwin 1.5.5-1
 - postgres 7.3.5, NT SP6, cygwin 1.5.7-1
 

Means that the same described behaviour was noticed
on these two boxes.

I will try tomorrow with a snapshot.
If I can, my last play with a snapshot led to
tclsh refusing to start with an error:
cygheap_fixup_in_child: Couldn't reserve space for
cygwin's heap ...
*** m.AllocationBase ...
Is there anything else to do but changing
cygwin1.dll?


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Re: killing processes owned by others with kill.exe

2004-03-09 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Rob S.i.k.l.o.s wrote:

 [snip]
 It's taken from the latest source that I got from setup.exe (sorry, no
 access to cvs behind firewall).
 [snip]

Rob,

FYI:
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/winsup/utils/kill.cc?rev=1.22cvsroot=src
a couple of links away from
http://sources.redhat.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/src/winsup/utils/?cvsroot=src.

HTH,
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Malloc hang

2004-03-09 Thread Johnson, Allen G
I am executing a program this parses xml files using libxml2. It only
hangs with one of my xml files works fine with others..  I have used gdb
to find the specific library call to malloc that is hanging.  

It is hard for me to debug the problem any more because after this
malloc call is mad the program hangs and doesn't return to the next line
of code or print anymore debugging information.
I have tried changing cygwin max memory to see if I have run out of
memory but this does not help.
Although I am not sure if this will help I have tried to make cygwin
files with debugging enabled but get errors in the compile process.

?
I know this is not enough info to give me an answer but if you could
please point me in the right direction.
If you think that compiling cygwin with debugging will help...can you
get binaries with debugging enabled already since I am having problems
compiling.

OS: Win2k SP3
Cygwin: 1.5.7

Thanks

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Re: Malloc hang

2004-03-09 Thread Larry Hall
At 02:55 PM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
I am executing a program this parses xml files using libxml2. It only
hangs with one of my xml files works fine with others..  I have used gdb
to find the specific library call to malloc that is hanging.  

It is hard for me to debug the problem any more because after this
malloc call is mad the program hangs and doesn't return to the next line
of code or print anymore debugging information.
I have tried changing cygwin max memory to see if I have run out of
memory but this does not help.
Although I am not sure if this will help I have tried to make cygwin
files with debugging enabled but get errors in the compile process.

?
I know this is not enough info to give me an answer but if you could
please point me in the right direction.
If you think that compiling cygwin with debugging will help...can you
get binaries with debugging enabled already since I am having problems
compiling.

OS: Win2k SP3
Cygwin: 1.5.7


Why not try a snapshot? http://cygwin.com/snapshots/



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Loading gcc-compiled DLL with Java (JNI) crashes when using newer (1.5.5) cygwin1.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Martin Proefrock
It just worked fine with 1.5.5. Now, using 1.5.7, Java crashes inside
the System.LoadLibrary call, even with a nearly empty DLL.

I can't use -mno-cygwin because I use cygwin-specific stuff.

Any hints, beside using the older version?

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RE: Malloc hang

2004-03-09 Thread Johnson, Allen G
Thanks for the quick response.  I assumed you were saying use the
snapshots because debugging is enable?  I used the
cygwin-inst-20040305.tar.bz2 file but there is know debugging found.
Used the cygwin.dll and the same thing.  Am I missing something?


-Original Message-
From: Larry Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:08 PM
To: Johnson, Allen G; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Malloc hang


At 02:55 PM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
I am executing a program this parses xml files using libxml2. It only 
hangs with one of my xml files works fine with others..  I have used 
gdb to find the specific library call to malloc that is hanging.

It is hard for me to debug the problem any more because after this 
malloc call is mad the program hangs and doesn't return to the next 
line of code or print anymore debugging information. I have tried 
changing cygwin max memory to see if I have run out of memory but this 
does not help. Although I am not sure if this will help I have tried to

make cygwin files with debugging enabled but get errors in the compile 
process.

?
I know this is not enough info to give me an answer but if you could 
please point me in the right direction. If you think that compiling 
cygwin with debugging will help...can you get binaries with debugging 
enabled already since I am having problems compiling.

OS: Win2k SP3
Cygwin: 1.5.7


Why not try a snapshot? http://cygwin.com/snapshots/



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Re: Loading gcc-compiled DLL with Java (JNI) crashes when using newer (1.5.5) cygwin1.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Larry Hall
At 03:35 PM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
It just worked fine with 1.5.5. Now, using 1.5.7, Java crashes inside
the System.LoadLibrary call, even with a nearly empty DLL.

I can't use -mno-cygwin because I use cygwin-specific stuff.

Any hints, beside using the older version?


Try a snapshot. http://cygwin.com/snapshots/



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RE: Malloc hang

2004-03-09 Thread Larry Hall
Snapshots do not have debugging enabled.  I was suggesting it because 
the current snapshots are close to the next version to be released
and it makes sense to see if your problem is resolved there or not.
If you still see a problem, then the next step would be to build a 
debug version of the cygwin DLL.  See the FAQ entry:

How do I rebuild the tools on my NT box?
http://cygwin.com/faq/faq_4.html#SEC104


Larry


At 03:59 PM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
Thanks for the quick response.  I assumed you were saying use the
snapshots because debugging is enable?  I used the
cygwin-inst-20040305.tar.bz2 file but there is know debugging found.
Used the cygwin.dll and the same thing.  Am I missing something?


-Original Message-
From: Larry Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:08 PM
To: Johnson, Allen G; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Malloc hang


At 02:55 PM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
I am executing a program this parses xml files using libxml2. It only 
hangs with one of my xml files works fine with others..  I have used 
gdb to find the specific library call to malloc that is hanging.

It is hard for me to debug the problem any more because after this 
malloc call is mad the program hangs and doesn't return to the next 
line of code or print anymore debugging information. I have tried 
changing cygwin max memory to see if I have run out of memory but this 
does not help. Although I am not sure if this will help I have tried to

make cygwin files with debugging enabled but get errors in the compile 
process.

?
I know this is not enough info to give me an answer but if you could 
please point me in the right direction. If you think that compiling 
cygwin with debugging will help...can you get binaries with debugging 
enabled already since I am having problems compiling.

OS: Win2k SP3
Cygwin: 1.5.7


Why not try a snapshot? http://cygwin.com/snapshots/



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RE: DDS4 device mnemonic with cygwin

2004-03-09 Thread Mazzotta, Paul
Igor;
Thanks so much for your help !

Paul :-)

-Original Message-
From: Igor Pechtchanski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 1:19 PM
To: Mazzotta, Paul
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DDS4 device mnemonic with cygwin


On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Mazzotta, Paul wrote:

 To whom it may concern;

 According to the cygwin user's guide, tape drive devices
 are mapped to /dev... or /device...  .  Shouldn't you be able
 to see these directories from a cygwin window under the
 /  directory ?  If so, is it because I did not install all of cygwin
 at the time of installation ?   On my Windows 2000 host in a
 cygwin window, I need to be able to perform a tar command
 in the form:  tar cvf  /dev...(for tape device)  filename.

 Any help in resloving this issue is most appreciated !

Paul

Paul,

Until Cygwin switches to mknod for devices, /dev will be a virtual
filesystem in Cygwin (as are /proc, /cygdrive, etc).  As such, it won't
show up in the listing of the parent directory (i.e., /).  What you need
to do is create an actual directory for /dev, and the empty file entries
for all of its contents to be able to 'ls' them.  You can use a script I
posted in http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-xfree/2004-01/msg00353.html for
this purpose (it'll also create some Linux-style symlinks).
Igor
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Re: Loading gcc-compiled DLL with Java (JNI) crashes when using newer (1.5.5) cygwin1.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Martin Proefrock
It just worked fine with 1.5.5. Now, using 1.5.7, Java crashes inside
the System.LoadLibrary call, even with a nearly empty DLL.

 Try a snapshot. http://cygwin.com/snapshots/

It still crashes when using the latest snapshot 20040306.



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Re: Loading gcc-compiled DLL with Java (JNI) crashes when using newer (1.5.5) cygwin1.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Igor Pechtchanski
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Martin Proefrock wrote:

 It just worked fine with 1.5.5. Now, using 1.5.7, Java crashes inside
 the System.LoadLibrary call, even with a nearly empty DLL.

  Try a snapshot. http://cygwin.com/snapshots/

 It still crashes when using the latest snapshot 20040306.

The core Cygwin DLL (/bin/cygwin1.dll) has no support for dynamic loading.
You may have been lucky before in that the functionality you had in your
DLL didn't require the loading of the core one.  Apparently this has
changed between 1.5.5 and 1.5.7.  Since this isn't supported, you're
basically on your own...  Sorry.
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Re: Loading gcc-compiled DLL with Java (JNI) crashes when using newer (1.5.5) cygwin1.dll

2004-03-09 Thread Larry Hall
At 04:53 PM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
On Tue, 9 Mar 2004, Martin Proefrock wrote:

 It just worked fine with 1.5.5. Now, using 1.5.7, Java crashes inside
 the System.LoadLibrary call, even with a nearly empty DLL.

  Try a snapshot. http://cygwin.com/snapshots/

 It still crashes when using the latest snapshot 20040306.

The core Cygwin DLL (/bin/cygwin1.dll) has no support for dynamic loading.
You may have been lucky before in that the functionality you had in your
DLL didn't require the loading of the core one.  Apparently this has
changed between 1.5.5 and 1.5.7.  Since this isn't supported, you're
basically on your own...  Sorry.


Oh jeez.  I guess I was too much on my try a snapshot bandwagon today.
Rereading I noticed that Martin mentioned that he was trying to 
dynamically load a Cygwin-enabled DLL.  So yeah, the snapshot isn't going
to help here.  Without Cygwin-enabled Java or a kind patch to the Cygwin 
DLL, this isn't going to work, just as Igor said.

But trying a snapshot was fun, wasn't it?! ;-)


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using shared libraries w/o cygwin

2004-03-09 Thread Liang, James
Hi.  I've got a port of objcopy that I'd like to run on Windows systems.
I'd rather not have to install cygwin on the machine that
I'm going to be running this tool on.

The problem I'm having is that whenever I run my program on a file, it
appears to have a STACK_VIOLATION on a call to malloc.  
It works just fine under Linux, under cygwin, and can print the usage
statement and things like that under DOS, 
but crashes in DOS whenever I actually pass it a data file. 

So far, the only explanation I can come up with is that there's some sort of
failure during the dynamic libraries.  Is there any way I can
setup a DOS environment to make it run?  I tried statically linking in bfd,
but that didn't seem to the problem either.  Could this be caused
by something else?

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Re: using shared libraries w/o cygwin

2004-03-09 Thread Larry Hall
At 07:35 PM 3/9/2004, you wrote:
Hi.  I've got a port of objcopy that I'd like to run on Windows systems.
I'd rather not have to install cygwin on the machine that
I'm going to be running this tool on.

The problem I'm having is that whenever I run my program on a file, it
appears to have a STACK_VIOLATION on a call to malloc.  
It works just fine under Linux, under cygwin, and can print the usage
statement and things like that under DOS, 
but crashes in DOS whenever I actually pass it a data file. 

So far, the only explanation I can come up with is that there's some sort of
failure during the dynamic libraries.  Is there any way I can
setup a DOS environment to make it run?  I tried statically linking in bfd,
but that didn't seem to the problem either.  Could this be caused
by something else?


The 'objcopy' that comes with the 'binutils' package works fine when 
invoked directly from a DOS prompt (outside of a Cygwin shell).  Of course,
that one comes with Cygwin and links to cygwin1.dll.  If you don't want
to have to install Cygwin or manage a local copy of cygwin1.dll on your
target systems, then this isn't an option for you.  However, if you're 
using a custom built version of 'objcopy' that doesn't use cygwin1.dll, 
then the question is really off-topic for this list.  You'll need to 
debug the problem yourself. Sorry.



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cygwin's emacs

2004-03-09 Thread George Hester
I go into emacs easy enough.  I start cygwin and type emacs and there I am in emacs.  
The directions say to exit type C-x C-c where C is the control key.  I am assuming 
that is the left control key.  So I hold down the left control key and type x.  I get 
a C-x in the lower bottom of the window.  I then try C-c which is holding down the 
left control key and hitting the c key.  Nothing.  Justy a ding.  In fact I casnnot 
exit from emacs at all.  Does anyone have a way of exiting from emacs which works?  
Thanks.


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Re: cygwin's emacs

2004-03-09 Thread Christopher Faylor
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 10:46:47PM -0500, George Hester wrote:
I go into emacs easy enough.  I start cygwin and type emacs and there I
am in emacs.  The directions say to exit type C-x C-c where C is the
control key.  I am assuming that is the left control key.  So I hold
down the left control key and type x.  I get a C-x in the lower bottom
of the window.  I then try C-c which is holding down the left control
key and hitting the c key.  Nothing.  Justy a ding.  In fact I casnnot
exit from emacs at all.  Does anyone have a way of exiting from emacs
which works?  Thanks.

Either set the environment variable CYGWIN=tty prior to running any
cygwin program or run emacs under rxvt.  CTRL-C is not remappable in
the normal cygwin console due to windows constraints.
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Re: major problem with the cygwin setup program

2004-03-09 Thread Joshua Daniel Franklin
On Mon, Mar 08, 2004 at 07:36:51PM -0600, Nick Gawronski wrote:
 Hi, I am trying to install the latest version of cygwin and am totally blind
 and use a screen reader to access the windows xp professional operating
 called window eyes from http://www.gwmicro.com and I wish to install
 everything and have read the FAQ and the documentation but that package
 selection dialog is not very accessible to a blind user, Could someone maby
 write a small patch that would fix the accessibility issue with the cygwin
 setup program or if you have questions on making this program accessible
 contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If any one else on this list can help me
 please do so.  Thanks in advance.  bye

Nick,

The Cygwin setup.exe installer isn't bad for screen readers on purpose--
we just don't use them and have no way to test. Do you happen to know of
a Free screen reader that we might use? (I'm not promising patches to
enable this, but it would at least raise the possibility.)

As for installing everything, you might be able to use setup.exe's
command line options. I don't think there's an install everything
option, so I put up a fake Base package that requires all the other
packages (warning: this may break something). So this may work from 
a command prompt if setup.exe understands multiple -s arguments:

setup.exe -q -s some-mirror -s http://ns1.iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/all

If not, you'll need to run setup.exe through once, clicking next each
time, to install a minimal installation, and then edit the
/etc/setup/last-mirror file to include 
http://ns1.iocc.com/~joshua/cygwin/all
It must have a real mirror also since my site does not have any
real packages, just the fake all one. 

Of course, since you read the User's Guide you know that this is
downloading several hundreds of megabytes of software, right?
(Are we up to gigabytes yet? We've got 2 emacs packages.)

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FW: dvips failing to include cmdunh10 font definition

2004-03-09 Thread Demmer, Thomas
Grr. Forgot to CC the list.

-Original Message-
From: Demmer, Thomas 
Sent: Wednesday, 10 March, 2004 07:47
To: 'Tim Reid'
Subject: RE: dvips failing to include cmdunh10 font definition


Tim,

do you have one of those:
$ locate cmdunh
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/source/jknappen/sauter/b-cmdunh.mf
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/cmdunh10.mf
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/cm/cmdunh10.tfm
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/vcm/vcmdunh10.tfm
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/cm/cmdunh10.tfm

and/or try this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/setup
$ zgrep cmdunh *
tetex-base.lst.gz:usr/share/texmf/fonts/source/jknappen/sauter/b-cmdunh.mf
tetex-base.lst.gz:usr/share/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/cmdunh10.mf
tetex-base.lst.gz:usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/cm/cmdunh10.tfm
tetex-base.lst.gz:usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/vcm/vcmdunh10.tfm
tetex-base.lst.gz:usr/share/texmf/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmdunh10.pfb
tetex-base.lst.gz:usr/share/texmf/fonts/vf/public/vcm/vcmdunh10.vf
tetex-tiny.lst.gz:usr/share/texmf/fonts/source/public/cm/cmdunh10.mf
tetex-tiny.lst.gz:usr/share/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/cm/cmdunh10.tfm

If you have those (you should, as they are in the base package), your
mapping
may be corrupt (and my wizardry ends).
I would try the following things in this order:
1) Re-run texconfig
2) Re-install tetex-base and re-run texconfig
3) Take a deep breath, try to understand kpsearch and act accordingly :-)


HTH,

Ciao
Tom


-Original Message-
From: Tim Reid 
Sent: Tuesday, 09 March, 2004 16:39
To: cygwin at cygwin.com
Cc: TDemmer atkrafteurope.com
Subject: Re: dvips failing to include cmdunh10 font definition


How does pdflatex look like?

Good question. I've not used pdflatex before, so I can't be sure whether
I'm doing this right:

==
$ pdflatex bug1
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.14159-1.10b (Web2C 7.4.5)
%-line parsing enabled.
(./bug1.tex{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
LaTeX2e 2001/06/01
Babel v3.7h and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, 
ngerman, n
ohyphenation, loaded.
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (./bug1.aux)
Overfull \hbox (77.74681pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 13--14
[]/cmtt10/dvips(k) 5.92b Copyright 2002 Radical Eye Software 
(www.radicaleye.co
m)
[1
Warning: pdflatex (file pdftex.map): cannot open font map file
] (./bug1.aux) )
(see the transcript file for additional information)
Warning: pdflatex (file cmtt10): Font cmtt10 at 1200 not found

Warning: pdflatex (file cmdunh10): Font cmdunh10 at 1200 not found

Warning: pdflatex (file cmr10): Font cmr10 at 1200 not found
Output written on bug1.pdf (1 page, 1325 bytes).
Transcript written on bug1.log.
==

It looks as if it's not finding any of the font definitions. Perhaps
unsurprisingly, I just get a PDF file which gives font errors when I
try to load it, and then gives a blank page.

Should I have some environment variables set up?

Tim Reid

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Re: OpenSSH configuration and many recent problems

2004-03-09 Thread Corinna Vinschen
On Mar  8 14:21, Harold L Hunt II wrote:
 Corinna Vinschen wrote:
 Especially I don't see why this setting should have another default on
 Cygwin as on any other OS.  There's no difference between Cygwin and
 other OSes which justifies this measure, right?
 
 The only difference I can think of is that none of the other ssh 
 implementations (that I know of) on our platform, such as PuTTY and SSH 
 Secure Shell, enable this feature by default (or even have this feature).

I'm more concerned about differences between OpenSSH installation on
different OSes, not about other SSH implementations, actually.

Corinna

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