Re: Technical reason why 32bit Cygwin cannot be installed on 64bit Windows?

2024-05-17 Thread Eliot Moss via Cygwin

On 5/17/2024 11:21 AM, Cedric Blancher via Cygwin wrote:

On Fri, 17 May 2024 at 16:50, Brian Inglis via Cygwin  wrote:


On 2024-05-17 01:48, Cedric Blancher via Cygwin wrote:

Is there a technical reason why 32bit Cygwin cannot be installed on
64bit Windows? We like to create a CI build pipeline, and want to
create binaries for 32bit and 64bit Cygwin on the same machine, but
setup.exe for 32bir Cygwin refuses to install


Practical reason is 32 bit usage < 1%


I would agree for commercial, well-funded enterprises. The situation
is much different for funding-starved education, i.e. schools and
universities, where Win10 32bit is squatting cheap computers in the
*millions*. For example the schools in Paris alone have 22000 active
Win10 32bit licenses in 2022 (last time this was counted).


and Cygwin is all volunteer, with
professionally and/or personally busy developers lacking time to do more.
You are on your own with 32 bit dropped,


Does Cygwin 3.6 still compile on 32bit?


AFAIK, yes, though most folks don't compile it themselves.
I just download things.


so ask questions on forums like SO.


What is SO?


StackOverflow.

Cheers - Eliot Moss


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Re: Technical reason why 32bit Cygwin cannot be installed on 64bit Windows?

2024-05-17 Thread Cedric Blancher via Cygwin
On Fri, 17 May 2024 at 16:50, Brian Inglis via Cygwin  wrote:
>
> On 2024-05-17 01:48, Cedric Blancher via Cygwin wrote:
> > Is there a technical reason why 32bit Cygwin cannot be installed on
> > 64bit Windows? We like to create a CI build pipeline, and want to
> > create binaries for 32bit and 64bit Cygwin on the same machine, but
> > setup.exe for 32bir Cygwin refuses to install
>
> Practical reason is 32 bit usage < 1%

I would agree for commercial, well-funded enterprises. The situation
is much different for funding-starved education, i.e. schools and
universities, where Win10 32bit is squatting cheap computers in the
*millions*. For example the schools in Paris alone have 22000 active
Win10 32bit licenses in 2022 (last time this was counted).

> and Cygwin is all volunteer, with
> professionally and/or personally busy developers lacking time to do more.
> You are on your own with 32 bit dropped,

Does Cygwin 3.6 still compile on 32bit?

> so ask questions on forums like SO.

What is SO?

Ced
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Re: Technical reason why 32bit Cygwin cannot be installed on 64bit Windows?

2024-05-17 Thread Brian Inglis via Cygwin

On 2024-05-17 01:48, Cedric Blancher via Cygwin wrote:

Is there a technical reason why 32bit Cygwin cannot be installed on
64bit Windows? We like to create a CI build pipeline, and want to
create binaries for 32bit and 64bit Cygwin on the same machine, but
setup.exe for 32bir Cygwin refuses to install


Practical reason is 32 bit usage < 1% and Cygwin is all volunteer, with 
professionally and/or personally busy developers lacking time to do more.

You are on your own with 32 bit dropped, so ask questions on forums like SO.

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Re: Technical reason why 32bit Cygwin cannot be installed on 64bit Windows?

2024-05-17 Thread Dimitry Andric via Cygwin
On 17 May 2024, at 09:48, Cedric Blancher via Cygwin  wrote:
> 
> Is there a technical reason why 32bit Cygwin cannot be installed on
> 64bit Windows? We like to create a CI build pipeline, and want to
> create binaries for 32bit and 64bit Cygwin on the same machine, but
> setup.exe for 32bir Cygwin refuses to install

How exactly does it "refuse to install" ? If it says "mbox : Cygwin is not 
supported on 32-bit Windows", you may not have followed the instructions at 
https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin/2022-November/252542.html, which say:

> To install the last cygwin version for x86, run setup using the options 
> '--allow-unsupported-windows option --site circa_URL', where circa_URL can be 
> one of:
> * The URL for any sourceware mirror[1], followed by cygwin-archive/20221123
> * 
> http://ctm.crouchingtigerhiddenfruitbat.org/pub/cygwin/circa/2022/11/23/063457

I tried exactly that just now (with the second URL), and it installed OK, with 
the default package set. This is on a Windows 10 22H2 x64 host. The resulting 
Cygwin installation appears to work fine, with light testing.

-Dimitry


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Technical reason why 32bit Cygwin cannot be installed on 64bit Windows?

2024-05-17 Thread Cedric Blancher via Cygwin
Good morning!

Is there a technical reason why 32bit Cygwin cannot be installed on
64bit Windows? We like to create a CI build pipeline, and want to
create binaries for 32bit and 64bit Cygwin on the same machine, but
setup.exe for 32bir Cygwin refuses to install

Ced
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