Re: Setup not asking for proxy user,password / was Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
On Tue, 12/13/16, Brian Inglis wrote: Subject: Re: Setup not asking for proxy user,password / was Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me? To: cygwin@cygwin.com Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 3:57 PM On 2016-12-13 11:43, Ian Lambert via cygwin wrote: > On Mon, 12/12/16, Achim Gratz wrote: >> Ian Lambert via cygwin writes: >>> Maybe a comparison of how wget handles authentication versus how >>> setup handles it could help? >> The problem is on your side and I cannot reproduce it. So that >> analysis (which I've asked for earlier) either comes from you or >> you'll have to wait until someone else can reproduce it. In any case, >> I've verified that setup.exe does ask for the user/password if it >> gets the required 407 error response from a proxy requiring >> authentication and then correctly uses that proxy for the remainder >> of the session. > The output from testing with wget and setup verbose is here: > https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2016-12/msg00034.html > After skimming wget and setup sources, my guess is it has something > to do with "basic" versus NTLM authentication. I saw enough to know > setup source is not nearly as thoroughly commented as wget, and both > are too complicated for me. :D > Is there any chance of getting similar outputs from behind your > proxy, to look for differences with mine? Maybe your proxy is not properly handling unexpected User Agent or other header strings from wget and setup. Have you tried curl - curl often outputs only the HTTP message, and you can then add options to generate the correct responses or handling. Both curl and wget each support some user specified header addition and modification options. Note that setup seems to require and support only Basic authentication and does not process any negotiation, so if your proxy can or does not fall back to support Basic authentication, only NTLM, you're hooped! Have you tried using apt-cyg or another alternate installer? I could suggest https://github.com/BrianInglis/apt-cyg/raw/wget-non-verbose/apt-cyg ;^> as it has been patched to handle installing dependencies and postinstall scripts but does not (yet?) handle upgrades except by manually removing and (re-)installing packages. You may have to do your setup and package downloads via apt-cyg, wget, or IE to your packages directories and use setup to do installs from there. = = = At one time the proxy did seem to have user-agent requirements, but lately it seems more forgiving, for wget and curl. Thanks for your earlier curl and wget suggestions too. The output with debug/verbose options is "interesting." Yes, I've used apt-cyg downloads and offline setup/upgrade since about last February. I'm using the latest version, with a small modification to try to get "test" versions more reliably. Oddly, trying to compare the outputs from different curl requests, with tkdiff, revealed that this script is no longer working for me. It worked maybe 2 weeks ago. :/ It's always something. -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup not asking for proxy user,password / was Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
On 2016-12-13 11:43, Ian Lambert via cygwin wrote: > On Mon, 12/12/16, Achim Gratz wrote: >> Ian Lambert via cygwin writes: >>> Maybe a comparison of how wget handles authentication versus how >>> setup handles it could help? >> The problem is on your side and I cannot reproduce it. So that >> analysis (which I've asked for earlier) either comes from you or >> you'll have to wait until someone else can reproduce it. In any case, >> I've verified that setup.exe does ask for the user/password if it >> gets the required 407 error response from a proxy requiring >> authentication and then correctly uses that proxy for the remainder >> of the session. > The output from testing with wget and setup verbose is here: > https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2016-12/msg00034.html > After skimming wget and setup sources, my guess is it has something > to do with "basic" versus NTLM authentication. I saw enough to know > setup source is not nearly as thoroughly commented as wget, and both > are too complicated for me. :D > Is there any chance of getting similar outputs from behind your > proxy, to look for differences with mine? Maybe your proxy is not properly handling unexpected User Agent or other header strings from wget and setup. Have you tried curl - curl often outputs only the HTTP message, and you can then add options to generate the correct responses or handling. Both curl and wget each support some user specified header addition and modification options. Note that setup seems to require and support only Basic authentication and does not process any negotiation, so if your proxy can or does not fall back to support Basic authentication, only NTLM, you're hooped! Have you tried using apt-cyg or another alternate installer? I could suggest https://github.com/BrianInglis/apt-cyg/raw/wget-non-verbose/apt-cyg ;^> as it has been patched to handle installing dependencies and postinstall scripts but does not (yet?) handle upgrades except by manually removing and (re-)installing packages. You may have to do your setup and package downloads via apt-cyg, wget, or IE to your packages directories and use setup to do installs from there. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup not asking for proxy user,password / was Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
On Mon, 12/12/16, Achim Gratz wrote: Subject: Re: Setup not asking for proxy user,password / was Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me? To: cygwin@cygwin.com Date: Monday, December 12, 2016, 1:40 PM Ian Lambert via cygwin writes: > Maybe a comparison of how wget handles > authentication versus how setup handles it > could help? The problem is on your side and I cannot reproduce it. So that analysis (which I've asked for earlier) either comes from you or you'll have to wait until someone else can reproduce it. In any case, I've verified that setup.exe does ask for the user/password if it gets the required 407 error response from a proxy requiring authentication and then correctly uses that proxy for the remainder of the session. = = = The output from testing with wget and setup verbose is here: https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2016-12/msg00034.html After skimming wget and setup sources, my guess is it has something to do with "basic" versus NTLM authentication. I saw enough to know setup source is not nearly as thoroughly commented as wget, and both are too complicated for me. :D Is there any chance of getting similar outputs from behind your proxy, to look for differences with mine? Thanks -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup not asking for proxy user,password / was Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
Ian Lambert via cygwin writes: > Maybe a comparison of how wget handles > authentication versus how setup handles it > could help? The problem is on your side and I cannot reproduce it. So that analysis (which I've asked for earlier) either comes from you or you'll have to wait until someone else can reproduce it. In any case, I've verified that setup.exe does ask for the user/password if it gets the required 407 error response from a proxy requiring authentication and then correctly uses that proxy for the remainder of the session. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for Waldorf Q V3.00R3 and Q+ V3.54R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup not asking for proxy user,password / was Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
On Thu, 12/8/16, Achim Gratz wrote: Subject: Re: Setup not asking for proxy user,password / was Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me? To: cygwin@cygwin.com Date: Thursday, December 8, 2016, 2:22 PM Ian Lambert writes: > The proxy gives the 407 error, based on some testing > with wget -d. Even without providing user/password, it works > around half the time, for wget. Below are some debug output from setup, > and debug output from wget testing, which shows the 407 error. It took some time to get to it, but I've tested setup.exe using an NTLM authenticating proxy @work today and it does exactly what it is supposed to do (pop up a dialog box asking for the user name and password, then authenticate to the proxy and use it for the rest of the session). So your problem still seems to be some misconfiguration on the proxy side that causes communication with setup.exe to fail. = = = You can call it "misconfiguration." I can call it "different" configuration than setup assumes. The point remains: other programs, like wget, consistently work OK, without popups, when given proxy username and password in either .bashrc or .wgetrc, and I am sure they were not customized for this proxy. Maybe a comparison of how wget handles authentication versus how setup handles it could help? > Defaulting to empty mirror list > site: ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/sourceware/cygwin/ Err… could it be that your proxy isn't actually of functioning as an FTP proxy? How about using a HTTP mirror instead? = = = No. Wget works OK with either type. HTTP mirror has been tried with setup, and also does not work. From previous post, setup fails to retrieve mirrors.lst, with an HTTP, before failing to retrieve setup.ini. Again, wget can retrieve these consistently OK when given username and password. net: Proxy Cached mirror list unavailable get_url_to_membuf http://cygwin.com/mirrors.lst getUrlToStream http://cygwin.com/mirrors.lst getUrlToStream failed! get_url_to_membuf failed!
Re: Setup not asking for proxy user,password / was Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
Ian Lambert writes: > The proxy gives the 407 error, based on some testing > with wget -d. Even without providing user/password, it works > around half the time, for wget. Below are some debug output from setup, > and debug output from wget testing, which shows the 407 error. It took some time to get to it, but I've tested setup.exe using an NTLM authenticating proxy @work today and it does exactly what it is supposed to do (pop up a dialog box asking for the user name and password, then authenticate to the proxy and use it for the rest of the session). So your problem still seems to be some misconfiguration on the proxy side that causes communication with setup.exe to fail. > Defaulting to empty mirror list > site: ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/sourceware/cygwin/ Err… could it be that your proxy isn't actually of functioning as an FTP proxy? How about using a HTTP mirror instead? Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf rackAttack: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup not asking for proxy user,password / was Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
Ian Lambert writes: > Setup is not as lucky, is unable to get setup.ini, and never asks for user, > password. > It also only lists the download site I last used. It's quite clear that setup and your proxy miscommunicate about the authentication. > myuser@mypc ~/junk/cygwin > $ wget https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe > --2016-12-01 10:52:10-- https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe > Resolving superproxy.our.wonder.place (superproxy.our.wonder.place)... > an.ip.address.here > Connecting to superproxy.our.wonder.place > (superproxy.our.wonder.place)|an.ip.address.here|:port... connected. > Proxy tunneling failed: Proxy Authentication RequiredUnable to establish SSL > connection. Again, the proxy is supposed to reply with a 407 error when it requires to authenticate the request source. It obviously errors out, but it does not appear to actually request authentication. If it would do that, then setup would ask for the user/password combination. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Q+, Q and microQ: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Setup not asking for proxy user,password / was Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
On 2016-12-01 10:10, Ian Lambert wrote: > On Thu, 11/17/16, Achim Gratz wrote: > Ian Lambert writes: >> Explorer is using a proxy configuration script, defined by others. > Looking back at your older posts it seems your proxy requires a > password. I have no idea how the configuration script sets up things > for you, but apparently it bypasses the registry settings that it > would normally use. >> Setup is being run with --no-admin. -p has been tried, but there is >> no option for user/passwd. > Setup.exe supposedly should ask for that information via a dialog > box when the proxy indicates it needs it, but it seems that your > proxy just doesn't return the required 407 response header. If you > could figure out (via wget most likely) what the communication with > your proxy looks like (with and without password) that might lead to > somewhere. > I finally observed wget fail because of authentication, then work > when given user, password. > Screen output is below. > Subsequent wgets work without giving password, so there is some > caching of authentication, apparently, at least for wget (and > apt-cyg). > Setup is not as lucky, is unable to get setup.ini, and never asks for > user, password. > It also only lists the download site I last used. You can change the web site using apt-cyg mirror or edit /etc/setup/setup.rc /last-mirror/+1 directly. > myuser@mypc ~/junk/cygwin > $ wget https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe > --2016-12-01 10:52:10-- https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe > Resolving superproxy.our.wonder.place > (superproxy.our.wonder.place)... an.ip.address.here > Connecting to superproxy.our.wonder.place > (superproxy.our.wonder.place)|an.ip.address.here|:port... connected. > Proxy tunneling failed: Proxy Authentication RequiredUnable to > establish SSL connection. > myuser@mypc ~/junk/cygwin > $ wget --user=myuser --password=mypasswd > https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe > --2016-12-01 10:53:22-- https://cygwin.com/setup-x86_64.exe > Resolving superproxy.our.wonder.place > (superproxy.our.wonder.place)... an.ip.address.here > Connecting to superproxy.our.wonder.place > (superproxy.our.wonder.place)|an.ip.address.here|:port... connected. > Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK > Length: 910336 (889K) [application/octet-stream] > Saving to: ‘setup-x86_64.exe’ > setup-x86_64.exe 100% > [===>] > 889.00K 719KB/s in 1.2s > 2016-12-01 10:53:24 (719 KB/s) - ‘setup-x86_64.exe’ saved > [910336/910336] curl -v sometimes shows when server status codes are returned instead of web pages, allowing you to add options to proceed further, step by step. wget -d can also provide more useful information. Packet analyzers like wireshark etc. can let you see what programs like setup are doing (wrong), when compared to wget working correctly. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
Ian Lambert writes: > Of course that has been tried and it does not work. It eventually pops > up "unable to get setup from [ok]". So does "use HTTP/FTP > Proxy" (with only host and port entry available), and "Direct > Connection". Well, if you're connected through a proxy, then of course "direct connection" will not work. > Explorer is using a proxy configuration script, defined by others. Looking back at your older posts it seems your proxy requires a password. I have no idea how the configuration script sets up things for you, but apparently it bypasses the registry settings that it would normally use. > Setup is being run with --no-admin. -p has been tried, but there is no > option for user/passwd. Setup.exe supposedly should ask for that information via a dialog box when the proxy indicates it needs it, but it seems that your proxy just doesn't return the required 407 response header. If you could figure out (via wget most likely) what the communication with your proxy looks like (with and without password) that might lead to somewhere. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for KORG EX-800 and Poly-800MkII V0.9: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KorgSDada -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
On 15/11/2016 23:16, Ian Lambert wrote: On Tue, 11/15/16, Achim Gratz wrote: Subject: Re: Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me? To: cygwin@cygwin.com Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2016, 3:34 PM Ian Lambert writes: > I try to stay up to date, but it is difficult because setup would not > accept network proxy settings the last time I tried, Then you need to fix that or maintain a local mirror that setup can use. A full local mirror (~80 GB) is too big to be an option. Automating a partial one is still a mystery. ( https://sourceware.org/cygwin-apps/package-server.html ) I can't fix setup without help. User and passwd options appear in setup source; however, it never asks me to enter them. I'm happy to test changes, but fixing it myself now isn't feasible. on "select connection type" Window, use "Internet Explorer Settings" -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
Ian Lambert writes: > cygcheck did say "OK" for the previous version, however :) The "OK" in this case means (only) that at all the files the package is supposed to have are still present. > I try to stay up to date, but it is difficult because setup would not > accept network proxy settings the last time I tried, Then you need to fix that or maintain a local mirror that setup can use. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Wavetables for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldUserWavetables -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
On Tue, 11/15/16, Ken Brown wrote: Subject: Re: Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me? To: cygwin@cygwin.com Date: Tuesday, November 15, 2016, 1:56 PM On 11/15/2016 9:59 AM, Ian Lambert wrote: >> The procedure entry point nghttp2_http2_strerror could not >> be located >> in the dynamic link library cygnghttp2-14.dll. >> [...] >> A redacted cygcheck -svr output is attached. > libnghttp2_14 1.7.1-1 You don't have the current version of libnghttp2_14 installed. Ken Moving to version 1.14.0-1 fixed it. cygcheck did say "OK" for the previous version, however :) libnghttp2_14 1.7.1-1 OK I try to stay up to date, but it is difficult because setup would not accept network proxy settings the last time I tried, so I'm using apt-cyg download and setup local installs as a workaround, and this does not always get me the latest versions of packages (and requires many painful copy/pastes from Update Announcements). Thank you! -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
Re: Resend: pdfseparate does nothing for me?
On 11/15/2016 9:59 AM, Ian Lambert wrote: The procedure entry point nghttp2_http2_strerror could not be located in the dynamic link library cygnghttp2-14.dll. [...] A redacted cygcheck -svr output is attached. libnghttp2_14 1.7.1-1 You don't have the current version of libnghttp2_14 installed. Ken -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
