RE: setup troubles: Download incomplete

2002-12-10 Thread Kris Thielemans

Hi,

sorry for the late follow-up.
new text is at the end

 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 December 2002 13:54
 To: Kris Thielemans; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: setup troubles: Download incomplete


 At 04:57 AM 12/6/2002, Kris Thielemans wrote:
 Thanks Larry,
 
  
   Disk space could still be the problem.  Depends on what you
 still need to
   download and how big it is.
  
  
 
 ok. I'll try to clean up more.
 A funny error message though.
 
 Here's another funny error message:
 After answering the question Download incomplete: do you want to try
 again? with no, setup starts to install the packages that it
 already got. I
 then get the occasional dialog box
 Can't open (null) for reading: No such file
 
 Needless to say, I've never seen that before, so it's probably because a
 file wasn't downloaded correctly because of my lack of disk
 space. Looks to
 me that a 0 pointer is passed to sprintf though...


 Right.  The download incomplete message indicates that not everything you
 requested could be downloaded.  Generally, you just want to try again but
 if you say you don't, setup just switches to the installation mode to
 install what it did download.

 Are you using the current setup.exe from www.cygwin.com?  I
 thought all the
 messages about Can't open (null) for reading: No such file were
 gone now.
 Perhaps I'm wrong.




I get this error both with the current setup from the website and with
setup-2.303.
I still get it even after freeing more disk space, such that setup doesn't
complain anymore while downloading files.
(I'm doing a Reinstall by the way, my system is thoroughly messed up).

Kris


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RE: setup troubles: Download incomplete

2002-12-06 Thread Kris Thielemans
Thanks Larry,


 Disk space could still be the problem.  Depends on what you still need to
 download and how big it is.



ok. I'll try to clean up more.
A funny error message though.

Here's another funny error message:
After answering the question Download incomplete: do you want to try
again? with no, setup starts to install the packages that it already got. I
then get the occasional dialog box
Can't open (null) for reading: No such file

Needless to say, I've never seen that before, so it's probably because a
file wasn't downloaded correctly because of my lack of disk space. Looks to
me that a 0 pointer is passed to sprintf though...

 On the disk space front, can anyone tell me why setup stores copies of
 files
 in subdirectories named after the mirror. This means that I end up with
 several copies of the same .tar.bz2 files, as I often have to switch
 mirrors
 (they seem to be very busy once in a while).


 If you're really looking for details, check the email archives on this.
 The reason for the differing directories, what they contain, and even
 utilities for cleaning them up have been discussed before.  However,
 you should not be ending up with the exact same files from each mirror,
 at least if you keep your set of mirrors constant.

well, I did have multiple copies of the same file. I've been using 3
mirrors. I don't think I've been doing something special, but who knows (is
aborting an installation special? It might be). I can't give you any
details, as this happened over the years, and I never checked before. Also,
I deleted all of the mirror files except one to save disk space...

Thanks a lot

Kris Thielemans
(kris.thielemans at ic.ac.uk)
Imaging Research Solutions Ltd
Cyclotron Building
Hammersmith Hospital
Du Cane Road
London W12 ONN, United Kingdom

web site address: http://www.irsl.org/~kris


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Re: setup troubles: Download incomplete

2002-12-06 Thread Max Bowsher
Kris Thielemans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 well, I did have multiple copies of the same file. I've been using 3
 mirrors. I don't think I've been doing something special, but who
 knows (is aborting an installation special? It might be). I can't
 give you any details, as this happened over the years, and I never
 checked before. Also, I deleted all of the mirror files except one to
 save disk space...

clean_setup.pl from: http://home.ix.netcom.com/~mchase/zip/ may help you
keep your files organized.

I use it all the time.

Max.


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RE: setup troubles: Download incomplete

2002-12-06 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 20:57, Kris Thielemans wrote:


 well, I did have multiple copies of the same file. I've been using 3
 mirrors.


In the list of mirrors, did you ctrl-click to select the 3, or did you
single click, thus choosing a single, different mirror.

Setup only prevents duplicates when it knows all the mirrors you are
using.

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RE: setup troubles: Download incomplete

2002-12-06 Thread Kris Thielemans

 In the list of mirrors, did you ctrl-click to select the 3, or did you
 single click, thus choosing a single, different mirror.

 Setup only prevents duplicates when it knows all the mirrors you are
 using.


ah. sorry. didn't know that. I single click another mirror whenever I have
trouble with the current one.

Thanks!

Kris


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RE: setup troubles: Download incomplete

2002-12-06 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
At 04:57 AM 12/6/2002, Kris Thielemans wrote:
Thanks Larry,

 
  Disk space could still be the problem.  Depends on what you still need to
  download and how big it is.
 
 

ok. I'll try to clean up more.
A funny error message though.

Here's another funny error message:
After answering the question Download incomplete: do you want to try
again? with no, setup starts to install the packages that it already got. I
then get the occasional dialog box
Can't open (null) for reading: No such file

Needless to say, I've never seen that before, so it's probably because a
file wasn't downloaded correctly because of my lack of disk space. Looks to
me that a 0 pointer is passed to sprintf though...


Right.  The download incomplete message indicates that not everything you
requested could be downloaded.  Generally, you just want to try again but
if you say you don't, setup just switches to the installation mode to 
install what it did download.

Are you using the current setup.exe from www.cygwin.com?  I thought all the
messages about Can't open (null) for reading: No such file were gone now.
Perhaps I'm wrong.


  On the disk space front, can anyone tell me why setup stores copies of
  files
  in subdirectories named after the mirror. This means that I end up with
  several copies of the same .tar.bz2 files, as I often have to switch
  mirrors
  (they seem to be very busy once in a while).
 
 
  If you're really looking for details, check the email archives on this.
  The reason for the differing directories, what they contain, and even
  utilities for cleaning them up have been discussed before.  However,
  you should not be ending up with the exact same files from each mirror,
  at least if you keep your set of mirrors constant.

well, I did have multiple copies of the same file. I've been using 3
mirrors. I don't think I've been doing something special, but who knows (is
aborting an installation special? It might be). I can't give you any
details, as this happened over the years, and I never checked before. Also,
I deleted all of the mirror files except one to save disk space...


Right.  I think Rob got this point across to you.  You need to pick multiple
mirrors at the same time in order for setup to understand that it should
only download a package if it doesn't exist in another mirror's 
directory already.



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Re: setup troubles: Download incomplete

2002-12-06 Thread Max Bowsher
Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I thought
 all the messages about Can't open (null) for reading: No such file
 were gone now. Perhaps I'm wrong.

I'm afraid so. I've seen this message occasionally (unfortunately, since I
don't do much downloading with setup, I haven't got around to nailing down
precise reproduction steps.)
[With recent setup, BTW]

 You need to pick
 multiple mirrors at the same time in order for setup to understand
 that it should only download a package if it doesn't exist in another
 mirror's directory already.

True. Maybe this is a bug?

Max.


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Re: setup troubles: Download incomplete

2002-12-06 Thread Gareth Pearce
(doesnt point out anything about which list setup discussions is supposed to 
be on...)

I accidently deleted the email i was going to reply to - so no context 
sorry...

But I thought I would point out another lovely feature of the continuing to 
install after after incomplete downloads - as well as the null messages - 
packages get uninstalled that dont have a correct replacement package.  I've 
managed to end up without a cygwin dll a couple of times because of this ... 
since oddly - the cygwin dll download seems to have a much higher chance of 
dieing then any of the others - typically at 99% too... (obviously a 
conspiracy here... i can feel it :P)


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setup troubles: Download incomplete

2002-12-05 Thread Kris Thielemans
Hi,

I've decided to reinstall my whole cygwin (I interrupted a 'default' setup
earlier on, and that seems to have left my system in an undefined state
:-( ).

So, I used the setup on the cygwin website, clicked till the All category
showed Reinstall, and off it went downloading stuff. At some point it
flashed up a dialog box Download incomplete. Try again?
Yes! I say. It goes through the initial screens, starts to download, and
immediately says
Download incomplete. Try again?
and so on.

This happens with both the default setup and the latest beta
setup-2.303.exe.
I thought it might have to do with out of disk space, but I'm no sure.
When I cleaned up a bit, setup did download some more stuff, but then I got
the same message (still 93 MB free).

Any help will be appreciated, because I now have a plain NT machine here, no
cygwin on it. Disaster!


On the disk space front, can anyone tell me why setup stores copies of files
in subdirectories named after the mirror. This means that I end up with
several copies of the same .tar.bz2 files, as I often have to switch mirrors
(they seem to be very busy once in a while).




Kris Thielemans
(kris.thielemans at ic.ac.uk)
Imaging Research Solutions Ltd
Cyclotron Building
Hammersmith Hospital
Du Cane Road
London W12 ONN, United Kingdom

web site address: http://www.irsl.org/~kris


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RE: setup troubles: Download incomplete

2002-12-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]



From: Kris Thielemans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 17:13:31 -
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: setup troubles: Download incomplete

snip

This happens with both the default setup and the latest beta
setup-2.303.exe.
I thought it might have to do with out of disk space, but I'm no sure.
When I cleaned up a bit, setup did download some more stuff, but then I got
the same message (still 93 MB free).

Disk space could still be the problem.  Depends on what you still need to 
download and how big it is.


On the disk space front, can anyone tell me why setup stores copies of
files
in subdirectories named after the mirror. This means that I end up with
several copies of the same .tar.bz2 files, as I often have to switch
mirrors
(they seem to be very busy once in a while).


If you're really looking for details, check the email archives on this.
The reason for the differing directories, what they contain, and even 
utilities for cleaning them up have been discussed before.  However, 
you should not be ending up with the exact same files from each mirror,
at least if you keep your set of mirrors constant.  Pick the few that 
work best for you and don't change them.  That's the easiest solution for 
this problem.  If you see something that would suggest that a persistent
set of mirrors will give you the same package files for each mirror, 
please provide the list with a list of steps that shows this behavior.


Thanks,

Larry




Kris Thielemans
(kris.thielemans at ic.ac.uk)
Imaging Research Solutions Ltd
Cyclotron Building
Hammersmith Hospital
Du Cane Road
London W12 ONN, United Kingdom

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