RE: Basic question X - whatever
With the clipboard enabled, do you know how to highlight, copy paste between win/xp and cygwin? I think that is his intent. Microsoft(which you know): copy is by selecting then ctrl-c or menu-copy. paste is by ctrl-v or menu-paste. Motif cygwin: Selecting text would spontaneously (some people might prefer the term, automatically) copy into clipboard. Paste is by middle button click. e.g. copying from MS to Cyg: copy text from MS win, move cursor to cyg window and press/release middle button. Conversely from cyg to MS: select text at cyg win, move mouse to MS win and ctrl-v. Voila! However, if you don't have a middle mouse button, or you had mapped that button to do something else, you could use -emulate3buttons option which would require you to press both mouse buttons together to emulate the middle button. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Herbert Eppel Sent: Wed, September 28, 2005 12:43 PM To: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Basic question 3 - system tray icon On 28.09.2005 17:20 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: No. He is telling you how to shut down with a single click rather than my right clicking and selecting Exit. Which is answering your question 4. Thanks, although I'm afraid I still fail to see Reid's single-click solution - but never mind, I think I am satisfied now that my own single-click solution (i.e. x in top right corner) is 'safe'. Also about your question 2, as someone else recommended, you should consider running either startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh. But doing that, whatever you wrote in ~/.xinitrc would no longer be effective because either of these startup files would not call .xinitrc . I prefer the bat file because I would need to first start cygwin bash in a win/xp cmd window to allow me to run the sh file, thereby leaving a win/xp cmd window around annoying you more than the X icon would. The bat file is not unix and you might be more familiar with it. Thanks, I'll try and get my head round that some time, but shouldn't it work with -clipboard in the startx command line? Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Basic question X - whatever
On 28.09.2005 18:04 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: With the clipboard enabled, do you know how to highlight, copy paste Nice subject line - I'm not really sure why I started this Basic Question no. nonsense - it was bound to lead to confusion, sorry! between win/xp and cygwin? I think that is his intent. Microsoft(which you know): copy is by selecting then ctrl-c or menu-copy. paste is by ctrl-v or menu-paste. Motif cygwin: Selecting text would spontaneously (some people might prefer the term, automatically) copy into clipboard. Paste is by middle button click. Thanks for explain this. It's embarrassing, but I wasn't aware of the different behaviour :-[ e.g. copying from MS to Cyg: copy text from MS win, move cursor to cyg window and press/release middle button. Conversely from cyg to MS: select text at cyg win, move mouse to MS win and ctrl-v. Voila! However, if you don't have a middle mouse button, or you had mapped that button to do something else, you could use -emulate3buttons option which would require you to press both mouse buttons together to emulate the middle button. I do have the scroll wheel button assigned to double click, and I would like to keep that setting, which raises the question of where exactly I would have to specify -emulate3buttons (is it simply another command line option after startx?) and what you mean by both mouse buttons - do you mean left and right? Thanks Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
RE: Basic question X - whatever
Herbert Eppel wrote: On 28.09.2005 18:04 UK Time, Soong, SylokeJ wrote: With the clipboard enabled, do you know how to highlight, copy paste Nice subject line - I'm not really sure why I started this Basic Question no. nonsense - it was bound to lead to confusion, sorry! between win/xp and cygwin? I think that is his intent. Microsoft(which you know): copy is by selecting then ctrl-c or menu-copy. paste is by ctrl-v or menu-paste. Motif cygwin: Selecting text would spontaneously (some people might prefer the term, automatically) copy into clipboard. Paste is by middle button click. Thanks for explain this. It's embarrassing, but I wasn't aware of the different behaviour :-[ e.g. copying from MS to Cyg: copy text from MS win, move cursor to cyg window and press/release middle button. Conversely from cyg to MS: select text at cyg win, move mouse to MS win and ctrl-v. Voila! However, if you don't have a middle mouse button, or you had mapped that button to do something else, you could use -emulate3buttons option which would require you to press both mouse buttons together to emulate the middle button. I do have the scroll wheel button assigned to double click, and I would like to keep that setting, which raises the question of where exactly I would have to specify -emulate3buttons (is it simply another command line option after startx?) and what you mean by both mouse buttons - do you mean left and right? Thanks Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk you pass it as a parameter to your X startup ( ala -clipboard -multiwindow ) -emulate3buttons [timeout] Emulate 3 button mouse with an optional timeout in milliseconds. $ Xwin --help use: X [:display] [option] -a # mouse acceleration (pixels) -acdisable access control restrictions -audit int set audit trail level -auth file select authorization file bc enable bug compatibility -brcreate root window with black background +bsenable any backing store support -bsdisable any backing store support -c turns off key-click c #key-click volume (0-100) -cc intdefault color visual class -co file color database file -core generate core dump on fatal error -dpi int screen resolution in dots per inch -deferglyphs [none|all|16] defer loading of [no|all|16-bit] glyphs -f # bell base (0-100) -fc string cursor font -fn string default font name -fp string default font path -help prints message with these options -I ignore all remaining arguments -ld intlimit data space to N Kb -lf intlimit number of open files to N -ls intlimit stack space to N Kb -logo enable logo in screen saver nologo disable logo in screen saver -nolisten string don't listen on protocol -noreset don't reset after last client exists -reset reset after last client exists -p # screen-saver pattern duration (minutes) -pnaccept failure to listen on all ports -nopn reject failure to listen on all ports -r turns off auto-repeat r turns on auto-repeat -render [default|mono|gray|color] set render color alloc policy -s # screen-saver timeout (minutes) -sp file security policy file -sudisable any save under support -t # mouse threshold (pixels) -terminate terminate at server reset -to # connection time out -tst disable testing extensions ttyxx server started from init on /dev/ttyxx v video blanking for screen-saver -v screen-saver without video blanking -wmWhenMapped default backing-store -x string loads named extension at init time -maxbigreqsize set maximal bigrequest size +extension nameEnable extension -extension nameDisable extension -query host-name contact named host for XDMCP -broadcast broadcast for XDMCP -indirect host-namecontact named host for indirect XDMCP -port port-num UDP port number to send messages to -from local-addressspecify the local address to connect from -once Terminate server after one session -class display-class specify display class to send in manage -cookie xdm-auth-bits specify the magic cookie for XDMCP -displayID display-id manufacturer display ID for request The X Keyboard Extension adds the following arguments: -kbdisable the X Keyboard Extension +kb
Re: Basic question X - whatever
On 28.09.2005 19:14 UK Time, Reid Thompson wrote: I do have the scroll wheel button assigned to double click, and I would like to keep that setting, which raises the question of where exactly I would have to specify -emulate3buttons (is it simply another command line option after startx?) and what you mean by both mouse buttons - do you mean left and right? Thanks you pass it as a parameter to your X startup ( ala -clipboard -multiwindow ) -emulate3buttons [timeout] Emulate 3 button mouse with an optional timeout in milliseconds. Success 8-) Thanks a lot for all contributions! Just one more thing for now: I think I may find it a little difficult to get used to pressing the left and right mouse button simultaneously. Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the scroll wheel button)? Thanks Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Basic question X - whatever
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Herbert Eppel wrote: Success 8-) Thanks a lot for all contributions! Just one more thing for now: I think I may find it a little difficult to get used to pressing the left and right mouse button simultaneously. Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the scroll wheel button)? Depending on the application, you may be able to set up keyboard shortcuts to do this. For a bash example, see http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.using.html#faq.using.copy-and-paste (or try searching the archives of the main Cygwin mailing list for copy paste -- I'm sure there were recipes for various key combinations). Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! If there's any real truth it's that the entire multidimensional infinity of the Universe is almost certainly being run by a bunch of maniacs. /DA -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Basic question X - whatever
Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Herbert Eppel wrote: Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the scroll wheel button)? Have you tried shift-insert instead of middle button? My default installation of Cygwin and X supports this key combination. -- Poor Yorick -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Basic question X - whatever
Herbert Eppel wrote: Just one more thing for now: I think I may find it a little difficult to get used to pressing the left and right mouse button simultaneously. Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the scroll wheel button)? Some mouse drivers (for example, Microsoft Intellipoint) lets you define actions for the mouse buttons on a per-application basis. You could set it up so that clicking the mousewheel in XWin.exe does the default middle click, and clicking elsewhere results in the double-click. I do this myself, and find it very productive to have different mappings for different applications. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Basic question X - whatever
On 28.09.2005 20:58 UK Time, Poor Yorick wrote: Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Herbert Eppel wrote: Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the scroll wheel button)? Have you tried shift-insert instead of middle button? My default installation of Cygwin and X supports this key combination. Thanks for that, but in the past I found the Insert button so annoying (I kept pressing it inadvertently) that I deactivated it! :-) Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Basic question X - whatever
On 28.09.2005 20:10 UK Time, Igor Pechtchanski wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Herbert Eppel wrote: Success 8-) Thanks a lot for all contributions! Just one more thing for now: I think I may find it a little difficult to get used to pressing the left and right mouse button simultaneously. Is there an alternative (without losing my double-click function for the scroll wheel button)? Depending on the application, you may be able to set up keyboard shortcuts to do this. For a bash example, see http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.using.html#faq.using.copy-and-paste (or try searching the archives of the main Cygwin mailing list for copy paste -- I'm sure there were recipes for various key combinations). Igor Thanks, I might try that - or I might try and get used to the left/right combination first :-) Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Basic question X - whatever
Herbert Eppel wrote: Thanks for this. I have a (relatively old) optical Logitech mouse, and I can't see such an option in the mouse properties. Perhaps I simply have to get used to the left/right combination :-) You might try installing the MS Intellipoint drivers anyway. I have read in the past that it sometimes works with non-MS mice as well. You might have to use an older verion -- I am stuck on 4.1 but the latest is 5.3. Frustratingly, some versions do not have the enable program-specific settings checkbox. I seem to recall 4.12 does not, but 4.1 does, which is why I use it. Brian -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
Re: Basic question X - whatever
On 29.09.2005 06:25 UK Time, Brian Dessent wrote: Herbert Eppel wrote: Thanks for this. I have a (relatively old) optical Logitech mouse, and I can't see such an option in the mouse properties. Perhaps I simply have to get used to the left/right combination :-) You might try installing the MS Intellipoint drivers anyway. I have read in the past that it sometimes works with non-MS mice as well. You might have to use an older verion -- I am stuck on 4.1 but the latest is 5.3. Frustratingly, some versions do not have the enable program-specific settings checkbox. I seem to recall 4.12 does not, but 4.1 does, which is why I use it. Brian Thanks, I might try that. -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/ By the way, is there a good reason why the space in the footer delimiter for this list is missing, i.e. it should be -- instead of -- ? Without the space Thunderbird, for example, doesn't automatically cut off the footer in replies as one would expect. Regards Herbert Eppel -- www.HETranslation.co.uk -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/ FAQ: http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/
