Re: XWin stopped working with xorg-server 1.7.1 - no log-file created

2009-11-20 Thread Jon TURNEY

On 19/11/2009 16:25, Michael Breuer wrote:

For what it's worth, I tracked that down yesterday by looking at the
error log on the server - there was a complaint about clipboard - don't
recall what... seemed innocuous but figured I'd try turning off
clipboard. Viola, it worked.


Could you tell me what the clipboard related error message is?

Then I could perhaps try to fix it rather than tell everyone to use 
-noclipboard :-)



One other point - as older versions of CygwinX have major issues (100%
cpu) with the newer version of Gnome (now in F12), more people are going
to be trying the beta and hitting this. Not sure what code is involved,
but including this on the beta FAQ might be worthwhile.


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Re: XWin stopped working with xorg-server 1.7.1 - no log-file created

2009-11-20 Thread Michael Breuer

I've attached the log.
Jon TURNEY wrote:

On 19/11/2009 16:25, Michael Breuer wrote:

For what it's worth, I tracked that down yesterday by looking at the
error log on the server - there was a complaint about clipboard - don't
recall what... seemed innocuous but figured I'd try turning off
clipboard. Viola, it worked.


Could you tell me what the clipboard related error message is?

Then I could perhaps try to fix it rather than tell everyone to use 
-noclipboard :-)



One other point - as older versions of CygwinX have major issues (100%
cpu) with the newer version of Gnome (now in F12), more people are going
to be trying the beta and hitting this. Not sure what code is involved,
but including this on the beta FAQ might be worthwhile.


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Welcome to the XWin X Server
Vendor: The Cygwin/X Project
Release: 1.7.1.0 (10701000)
Build Date: 2009-11-11

Contact: cygwin-xfree@cygwin.com

XWin was started with the following command line:

xwin :0 -query 10.0.0.1 -xinerama -logverbose 3 -from 10.0.0.11 

ddxProcessArgument - Initializing default screens
winInitializeDefaultScreens - w 1680 h 1050
winInitializeDefaultScreens - Returning
2009-11-20 10:46:01 OsVendorInit - Creating bogus screen 0
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winValidateArgs - g_iNumScreens: 1 iMaxConsecutiveScreen: 1
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winValidateArgs - Returning.
2009-11-20 10:46:07 (II) xorg.conf is not supported
2009-11-20 10:46:07 (II) See http://x.cygwin.com/docs/faq/cygwin-x-faq.html for 
more information
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winPrefsLoadPreferences: /etc/X11/system.XWinrc
2009-11-20 10:46:07 LoadPreferences: Done parsing the configuration file...
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winGetDisplay: DISPLAY=:0.0
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winDetectSupportedEngines - Windows NT/2000/XP
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw installed
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winDetectSupportedEngines - DirectDraw4 installed
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winDetectSupportedEngines - Returning, supported engines 
0007
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winScreenInit - dwWidth: 1680 dwHeight: 1050
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winSetEngine - Using Shadow DirectDraw NonLocking
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winAdjustVideoModeShadowDDNL - Using Windows display depth 
of 32 bits per pixel
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - User w: 1680 h: 1050
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - Current w: 1680 h: 1050
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winAdjustForAutoHide - Original WorkArea: 0 0 1050 1680
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winAdjustForAutoHide - Taskbar is auto hide
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winAdjustForAutoHide - Found BOTTOM auto-hide taskbar
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winAdjustForAutoHide - Adjusted WorkArea: 0 0 1049 1680
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed - WindowClient w 1674 h 
1021 r 1674 l 0 b 1021 t 0
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winWindowProc - WM_ACTIVATEAPP
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winCreateBoundingWindowWindowed -  Returning
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Creating primary surface
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Created primary surface
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winCreatePrimarySurfaceShadowDDNL - Attached clipper to 
primary surface
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - lPitch: 6696
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow pitch: 6696
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winAllocateFBShadowDDNL - Created shadow stride: 1674
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winFinishScreenInitFB - Masks: 00ff ff00 00ff
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winInitVisualsShadowDDNL - Masks 00ff ff00 00ff 
BPRGB 8 d 24 bpp 32
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winRandRInit ()
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winCreateDefColormap - Deferring to fbCreateDefColormap ()
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winFinishScreenInitFB - returning
2009-11-20 10:46:07 Screen 0 added at XINERAMA coordinate (0,0).
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winScreenInit - returning
2009-11-20 10:46:07 winGenerateAuthorization - GenerateAuthorization success!
AuthDataLen: 16 AuthData: [8
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2009-11-20 10:46:07 InitOutput - Returning.
2009-11-20 10:46:07 MIT-SHM extension disabled due to lack of kernel support
2009-11-20 10:46:07 XFree86-Bigfont extension local-client optimization 
disabled due to lack of shared memory support in the kernel
2009-11-20 10:46:07 (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized 
/usr/lib/dri/swrast_dri.so
2009-11-20 10:46:07 (II) GLX: Initialized DRISWRAST GL provider for screen 0
2009-11-20 10:46:08 winPointerWarpCursor - Discarding first warp: 837 510
2009-11-20 10:46:08 (--) 8 mouse buttons found
2009-11-20 10:46:08 (--) Setting autorepeat to delay=500, rate=31
2009-11-20 10:46:08 (--) winConfigKeyboard - Layout: 0409 (0409) 
2009-11-20 10:46:08 (--) Using preset keyboard for English (USA) (409), type 
7
2009-11-20 10:46:08 Rules = base Model = pc105 Layout = us Variant = 
none Options = none
2009-11-20 10:46:08 winBlockHandler - Releasing pmServerStarted
2009-11-20 10:46:08 winBlockHandler - pthread_mutex_unlock () returned
2009-11-20 10:46:08 winProcEstablishConnection - Hello

Re: XWin stopped working with xorg-server 1.7.1 - no log-file created

2009-11-20 Thread Jon TURNEY

On 20/11/2009 15:46, Michael Breuer wrote:

I've attached the log.


Thanks.

Can you also please tell me what OS the XDMCP host at 10.0.0.1 is running?


Jon TURNEY wrote:

On 19/11/2009 16:25, Michael Breuer wrote:

For what it's worth, I tracked that down yesterday by looking at the
error log on the server - there was a complaint about clipboard - don't
recall what... seemed innocuous but figured I'd try turning off
clipboard. Viola, it worked.


Could you tell me what the clipboard related error message is?


2009-11-20 10:46:08 winClipboardIOErrorHandler!
2009-11-20 10:46:08 winClipboardProc - setjmp returned for IO Error Handler.
2009-11-20 10:46:08 winClipboardShutdown - Clipboard thread has exited.

Hmmm...

The problem here is that the internal clipboard integration client is 
terminating for some reason. (This is not entirely unexpected in XDMCP use, as 
login managers often try to kill other clients to ensure they don't watch you 
type your password, but there is code in place to try to prevent this 
happening to the clipboard integration client, in case you want to paste your 
password...)


Since Xserver 1.7.1-1, terminating the clipboard integration client causes the 
Xserver to terminate as well (although this change, which also applies to the 
-multiwindow internal window manager, doesn't seem to be mentioned in any of 
the announce emails)


My reasoning for this change was that we shouldn't accept the options turning 
these internal clients on and then silently allow them to fail.  This was 
particularly bad with the -multiwindow internal window manager, as if that 
client exits all new windows have no native frames, which is particularly useless.


I guess this also interacts unfortunately with -clipboard being the default 
now, since 1.6.1.902-1


So, perhaps we need to do something smarter here, either improve the way we 
try to avoid the internal clipboard client getting killed, or perhaps restart 
it after an interval ...


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Re: XWin stopped working with xorg-server 1.7.1 - no log-file created

2009-11-20 Thread Michael Breuer

Fedora 12 - kdm for the greeter.

Jon TURNEY wrote:

On 20/11/2009 15:46, Michael Breuer wrote:

I've attached the log.


Thanks.

Can you also please tell me what OS the XDMCP host at 10.0.0.1 is 
running?



Jon TURNEY wrote:

On 19/11/2009 16:25, Michael Breuer wrote:

For what it's worth, I tracked that down yesterday by looking at the
error log on the server - there was a complaint about clipboard - 
don't

recall what... seemed innocuous but figured I'd try turning off
clipboard. Viola, it worked.


Could you tell me what the clipboard related error message is?


2009-11-20 10:46:08 winClipboardIOErrorHandler!
2009-11-20 10:46:08 winClipboardProc - setjmp returned for IO Error 
Handler.

2009-11-20 10:46:08 winClipboardShutdown - Clipboard thread has exited.

Hmmm...

The problem here is that the internal clipboard integration client is 
terminating for some reason. (This is not entirely unexpected in XDMCP 
use, as login managers often try to kill other clients to ensure they 
don't watch you type your password, but there is code in place to try 
to prevent this happening to the clipboard integration client, in case 
you want to paste your password...)


Since Xserver 1.7.1-1, terminating the clipboard integration client 
causes the Xserver to terminate as well (although this change, which 
also applies to the -multiwindow internal window manager, doesn't seem 
to be mentioned in any of the announce emails)


My reasoning for this change was that we shouldn't accept the options 
turning these internal clients on and then silently allow them to 
fail.  This was particularly bad with the -multiwindow internal window 
manager, as if that client exits all new windows have no native 
frames, which is particularly useless.


I guess this also interacts unfortunately with -clipboard being the 
default now, since 1.6.1.902-1


So, perhaps we need to do something smarter here, either improve the 
way we try to avoid the internal clipboard client getting killed, or 
perhaps restart it after an interval ...





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Re: XWin stopped working with xorg-server 1.7.1 - no log-file created

2009-11-19 Thread Jon TURNEY

On 19/11/2009 08:33, Gertjan van Noord wrote:


after upgrading to xorg-server 1.7.1-3 starting X does no longer
work. Previous version 1.6.? worked. However, I can't seem to go
back to that version using the cygwin setup programme.

the startxwin.bat script does not complain, but no X logo appears,
and indeed no X programs can be started.

moreover no log-file is created in /var/log, which seems to suggest something
very basic is going wrong?

starting XWin from the command line, also with -logverbose 10 does not
produce any output.

rebooting does not change a thing

I've attached my cygcheck.out


You should perhaps try 'cygcheck /usr/bin/XWin.exe' to see if it identifies a 
missing DLL.


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Re: XWin stopped working with xorg-server 1.7.1 - no log-file created

2009-11-19 Thread Michael Breuer

Try -noclipboard.

I hit this as well.
Gertjan van Noord wrote:

after upgrading to xorg-server 1.7.1-3 starting X does no longer
work. Previous version 1.6.? worked. However, I can't seem to go
back to that version using the cygwin setup programme.

the startxwin.bat script does not complain, but no X logo appears,
and indeed no X programs can be started.

moreover no log-file is created in /var/log, which seems to suggest something
very basic is going wrong?

starting XWin from the command line, also with -logverbose 10 does not
produce any output.

rebooting does not change a thing

I've attached my cygcheck.out

GJ


  



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Re: XWin stopped working with xorg-server 1.7.1 - no log-file created

2009-11-19 Thread Gertjan van Noord
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:18:22AM -0500, Michael Breuer wrote:
 Try -noclipboard.

this solves my problem, many thanks.

GJ

 
 I hit this as well.
 Gertjan van Noord wrote:
 after upgrading to xorg-server 1.7.1-3 starting X does no longer
 work. Previous version 1.6.? worked. However, I can't seem to go
 back to that version using the cygwin setup programme.
 
 the startxwin.bat script does not complain, but no X logo appears,
 and indeed no X programs can be started.
 
 moreover no log-file is created in /var/log, which seems to suggest something
 very basic is going wrong?
 
 starting XWin from the command line, also with -logverbose 10 does not
 produce any output.
 
 rebooting does not change a thing
 
 I've attached my cygcheck.out
 
 GJ
 
 
 
 
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Re: XWin stopped working with xorg-server 1.7.1 - no log-file created

2009-11-19 Thread Gertjan van Noord

the DLL's are all there.

Using the other poster's suggestion to use -noclipboard
solves my problem, although I have no idea what/why.

GJ


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 02:00:28PM +, Jon TURNEY wrote:
 On 19/11/2009 08:33, Gertjan van Noord wrote:
 
 after upgrading to xorg-server 1.7.1-3 starting X does no longer
 work. Previous version 1.6.? worked. However, I can't seem to go
 back to that version using the cygwin setup programme.
 
 the startxwin.bat script does not complain, but no X logo appears,
 and indeed no X programs can be started.
 
 moreover no log-file is created in /var/log, which seems to suggest something
 very basic is going wrong?
 
 starting XWin from the command line, also with -logverbose 10 does not
 produce any output.
 
 rebooting does not change a thing
 
 I've attached my cygcheck.out
 
 You should perhaps try 'cygcheck /usr/bin/XWin.exe' to see if it
 identifies a missing DLL.

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Re: XWin stopped working with xorg-server 1.7.1 - no log-file created

2009-11-19 Thread Michael Breuer
For what it's worth, I tracked that down yesterday by looking at the 
error log on the server - there was a complaint about clipboard - don't 
recall what... seemed innocuous but figured I'd try turning off 
clipboard. Viola, it worked.


One other point - as older versions of CygwinX have major issues (100% 
cpu) with the newer version of Gnome (now in F12), more people are going 
to be trying the beta and hitting this. Not sure what code is involved, 
but including this on the beta FAQ might be worthwhile.


Gertjan van Noord wrote:

the DLL's are all there.

Using the other poster's suggestion to use -noclipboard
solves my problem, although I have no idea what/why.

GJ


On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 02:00:28PM +, Jon TURNEY wrote:
  

On 19/11/2009 08:33, Gertjan van Noord wrote:


after upgrading to xorg-server 1.7.1-3 starting X does no longer
work. Previous version 1.6.? worked. However, I can't seem to go
back to that version using the cygwin setup programme.

the startxwin.bat script does not complain, but no X logo appears,
and indeed no X programs can be started.

moreover no log-file is created in /var/log, which seems to suggest something
very basic is going wrong?

starting XWin from the command line, also with -logverbose 10 does not
produce any output.

rebooting does not change a thing

I've attached my cygcheck.out
  

You should perhaps try 'cygcheck /usr/bin/XWin.exe' to see if it
identifies a missing DLL.



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