Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link

2002-11-18 Thread Pavel Holejsovsky
I think you are looking for $HOME/.xserverrc file. E.g. mine contains:

#! /bin/sh
X -nowinkill -nodecoration -lesspointer -rootless

BTW, this all seems to be documented in xinit man page, as pointed out 
by Thomas.

Pavel

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Thanks Thomas,

	The thing is, no matter what I put in those files, it either starts XWin
with a border, or not at all.

	And when I do get it to start up, there is always a console mode window
hanging around until I close it, and that closes XWin...

	*sigh* I AM trying to understand how all this stuff fits together, but I'm
not having very much luck.


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Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:41 PM
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Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link

RTFM!  Do man xinit from the Cygwin command-line and read the 1st 3
paragraphs.



From: Jean-Claude Gervais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:08:07 -0500

Thanks Artur,

 But that's not quite the info I was looking for;

 You see, when I type startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh, I get a


DIFFERENT


result than from starting xinit by itself.

 Yet, xinit does start XWin, only it is starting it in windowed


mode...


Which is OK, but I'm just wondering WHERE does xinit get this from? Is it
executing a script?


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Subject: Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link



What parameters does it use to start XWin? Where does it get the


parameters?
You can find manual and parameters for XWin from command:
man XWin



Is it executing a script?


/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat
/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh

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Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link

2002-11-18 Thread Thomas Chadwick
xinit does 2 things - it launches the X server and then one or more X 
clients.

If you want to customize the X client part (including the Window Manager), 
create/modify/edit the file $HOME/.xinitrc.

If you want to customize the X server part, create/modify/edit the file 
$HOME/.xserverrc.

Alternatively, you can pass command-line options to the X server by 
specifying them on xinit's command-line after --.  For example, xinit -- 
-rootless will cause XWin to startup in rootless mode.


As for the console window, there is no way to avoid it being there until 
xinit completes, which doesn't happen until after the X server shuts down.  
This is really no different than if you use a  Windows batchfile to fire up 
XWin and one or more local X clients.  It's a necessary evil.


From: Pavel Holejsovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:10:40 +0100

I think you are looking for $HOME/.xserverrc file. E.g. mine contains:

#! /bin/sh
X -nowinkill -nodecoration -lesspointer -rootless

BTW, this all seems to be documented in xinit man page, as pointed out by 
Thomas.

Pavel

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Thomas,

	The thing is, no matter what I put in those files, it either starts XWin
with a border, or not at all.

	And when I do get it to start up, there is always a console mode window
hanging around until I close it, and that closes XWin...

	*sigh* I AM trying to understand how all this stuff fits together, but 
I'm
not having very much luck.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link

RTFM!  Do man xinit from the Cygwin command-line and read the 1st 3
paragraphs.


From: Jean-Claude Gervais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:08:07 -0500

Thanks Artur,

 But that's not quite the info I was looking for;

 You see, when I type startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh, I get a


DIFFERENT


result than from starting xinit by itself.

 Yet, xinit does start XWin, only it is starting it in windowed


mode...


Which is OK, but I'm just wondering WHERE does xinit get this from? Is it
executing a script?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Artur Hefczyc
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link



What parameters does it use to start XWin? Where does it get the


parameters?
You can find manual and parameters for XWin from command:
man XWin



Is it executing a script?


/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat
/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh

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RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link

2002-11-17 Thread Thomas Chadwick
RTFM!  Do man xinit from the Cygwin command-line and read the 1st 3 
paragraphs.

From: Jean-Claude Gervais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:08:07 -0500

Thanks Artur,

	But that's not quite the info I was looking for;

	You see, when I type startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh, I get a DIFFERENT
result than from starting xinit by itself.

	Yet, xinit does start XWin, only it is starting it in windowed mode...
Which is OK, but I'm just wondering WHERE does xinit get this from? Is it
executing a script?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Artur Hefczyc
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link

 What parameters does it use to start XWin? Where does it get the
parameters?
You can find manual and parameters for XWin from command:
man XWin

 Is it executing a script?
/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat
/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh

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RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link

2002-11-17 Thread Jean-Claude Gervais
Thanks Thomas,

The thing is, no matter what I put in those files, it either starts XWin
with a border, or not at all.

And when I do get it to start up, there is always a console mode window
hanging around until I close it, and that closes XWin...

*sigh* I AM trying to understand how all this stuff fits together, but I'm
not having very much luck.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Thomas Chadwick
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 10:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link

RTFM!  Do man xinit from the Cygwin command-line and read the 1st 3
paragraphs.

From: Jean-Claude Gervais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 10:08:07 -0500

Thanks Artur,

   But that's not quite the info I was looking for;

   You see, when I type startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh, I get a
DIFFERENT
result than from starting xinit by itself.

   Yet, xinit does start XWin, only it is starting it in windowed
mode...
Which is OK, but I'm just wondering WHERE does xinit get this from? Is it
executing a script?


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Artur Hefczyc
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link

  What parameters does it use to start XWin? Where does it get the
parameters?
You can find manual and parameters for XWin from command:
man XWin

  Is it executing a script?
/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat
/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh

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Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link

2002-11-16 Thread Artur Hefczyc
 What parameters does it use to start XWin? Where does it get the
parameters?
You can find manual and parameters for XWin from command:
man XWin

 Is it executing a script?
/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat
/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh

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RE: XWin.exe -- xinit link

2002-11-16 Thread Jean-Claude Gervais
Thanks Artur,

But that's not quite the info I was looking for;

You see, when I type startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh, I get a DIFFERENT
result than from starting xinit by itself.

Yet, xinit does start XWin, only it is starting it in windowed mode...
Which is OK, but I'm just wondering WHERE does xinit get this from? Is it
executing a script?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Artur Hefczyc
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link

 What parameters does it use to start XWin? Where does it get the
parameters?
You can find manual and parameters for XWin from command:
man XWin

 Is it executing a script?
/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.bat
/usr/X11R6/bin/startxwin.sh

Artur Hefczyc
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Re: XWin.exe -- xinit link

2002-11-16 Thread Artur Hefczyc
 But that's not quite the info I was looking for;
 You see, when I type startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh, I get a DIFFERENT
 result than from starting xinit by itself.
 Yet, xinit does start XWin, only it is starting it in windowed mode...
 Which is OK, but I'm just wondering WHERE does xinit get this from? Is it
 executing a script?
Hm, there is also similar to XWin info in system manual
(in my installation)
'man xinit'
under bash shell
You get different results because these are different programs which
use different runtime scripts.
for XWin.exe all parameters are in startxwin.bat or startxwin.sh where
it is executed.
xinit.exe presents different approach for running xwindows environment.
In my configuration it uses /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file to set all xwindows
parameters.
Look in these 2 files and everything should be clear I hope.
I don't know yet how to run xinit in fullscreen mode. Maybe there
are some parameters to X or xdm to set it but I don't know how.

regards
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