Re: x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
Harold == Harold L Hunt writes: Harold Had you ever installed the XFree86-bin-icons package? Did it work, or Harold did it have the same problem? I never had. This looks like a code page problem (the ³ is an ü in the Windows codepage) Harold Check the output of: Harold cygpath -A -P This is from an rxvt window: 11:03 AM [501] cygpath -A -P /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmenü/Programme and this from a bash console window: 10:57 AM [504] cygpath -A -P /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen³/Programme Harold Harold Ciao Volker
Re: x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
Igor == Igor Pechtchanski writes: Igor Theoretically, Windows should do the right translation under the covers. Igor It may be as simple as setting the correct codepage or locale before Igor trying to create the path... Not running the localized version of Igor Windows, I can't really investigate this. Volker, do you feel up to it? Igor A simple 'ls -d `cygpath -A -P`' should expose the bug, and setting the Igor right locale before this call may make it go away, in which case please Igor report to the list what made it work... :-) This is all from a console bash window: 11:21 AM [540] /c/WINNT/system32/chcp.com 850 Aktive Codepage: 850. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:21 AM [540] cygpath -A -P /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmenn/Programme [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:21 AM [541] ls -d `cygpath -A -P` /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen?/Programme/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:21 AM [541] /c/WINNT/system32/chcp.com 1252 Aktive Codepage: 1252. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:21 AM [542] cygpath -A -P /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen³/Programme [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:21 AM [543] ls -d `cygpath -A -P` /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen?/Programme/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:21 AM [543] /c/WINNT/system32/chcp.com 437 Aktive Codepage: 437. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:22 AM [544] cygpath -A -P /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen3/Programme [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:22 AM [545] ls -d `cygpath -A -P` /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen?/Programme/ Igor Igor Ciao Volker
Re: x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
Harold L Hunt II wrote: Oh darn, it will be slightly more complex than I had hoped. We will actually have to add an option to mkshortcut to have it create all folders on the specified path, because it fails if the folders do not exist and we have the same problem if we create the folders from our shell script. on uninstall: remove installed entries from the directory and remove the directory if it is empty. DIR=using cygpath here for shortcut in xterm xload xbiff ...; do rm $DIR/$shortcut done if ls -l $DIR | grep -q ^total 0; then rm -r $DIR fi bye ago NP: Dekoy - Your Heart -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gotti.org ICQ: 126018723
Re: x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: Igor == Igor Pechtchanski writes: Igor Theoretically, Windows should do the right translation under the covers. Igor It may be as simple as setting the correct codepage or locale before Igor trying to create the path... Not running the localized version of Igor Windows, I can't really investigate this. Volker, do you feel up to it? Igor A simple 'ls -d `cygpath -A -P`' should expose the bug, and setting the Igor right locale before this call may make it go away, in which case please Igor report to the list what made it work... :-) This is all from a console bash window: 11:21 AM [540] /c/WINNT/system32/chcp.com 850 Aktive Codepage: 850. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:21 AM [540] cygpath -A -P /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmenn/Programme [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:21 AM [541] ls -d `cygpath -A -P` /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen?/Programme/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:21 AM [541] /c/WINNT/system32/chcp.com 1252 Aktive Codepage: 1252. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:21 AM [542] cygpath -A -P /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen?/Programme [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:21 AM [543] ls -d `cygpath -A -P` /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen?/Programme/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:21 AM [543] /c/WINNT/system32/chcp.com 437 Aktive Codepage: 437. [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:22 AM [544] cygpath -A -P /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen3/Programme [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:22 AM [545] ls -d `cygpath -A -P` /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen?/Programme/ Whoops, sorry, I keep forgetting about aliases. My 'ls' is aliased to 'ls -F --color=tty --show-control-chars'. That last option would give much more sensible results in your experiments... Also, instead of using 'chcp', try adding a codepage:oem or codepage:ansi option to your CYGWIN environment variable... Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton
Re: x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
Alexander Gottwald wrote: Harold L Hunt II wrote: Oh darn, it will be slightly more complex than I had hoped. We will actually have to add an option to mkshortcut to have it create all folders on the specified path, because it fails if the folders do not exist and we have the same problem if we create the folders from our shell script. on uninstall: remove installed entries from the directory and remove the directory if it is empty. DIR=using cygpath here for shortcut in xterm xload xbiff ...; do rm $DIR/$shortcut done if ls -l $DIR | grep -q ^total 0; then rm -r $DIR fi That is exactly what we do already, but I believe it will suffer from the same problem as using passing the path from cygpath through bash when we create the icons. So, you would be ablet to create the icons using my idea, but the attempt to delete them would still delete them from the wrong directory... Harold
Re: x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
Hi Igor Also, instead of using 'chcp', try adding a codepage:oem or codepage:ansi option to your CYGWIN environment variable... It looks like codepage:ansi does the trick. D:\set CYGWIN=codepage:ansi D:\bash [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 07:16 PM [501] echo $CYGWIN codepage:ansi [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 07:16 PM [502] cygpath -P -A /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmenü/Programme [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 07:16 PM [503] ls -d --show-control-chars `cygpath -P -A` /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmenü/Programme/ Ciao Volker
Re: x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
Hi Igor, Igor Pechtchanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is probably an ASCII vs Unicode issue. Most of Cygwin calls the ASCII versions of the Windows API. I'm not sure Cygwin is even Unicode-aware. Windows uses Unicode internally to encode the filenames. It's probably that some program is writing scripts in the standard GUI 8-bit encoding (so-called ANSI). But program parameters are read in the console encoding (so-called OEM) and than Windows re-encodes them as Unicode and from there to ANSI to pass to the actual process. The actual console encoding can be set on NT based systems (and only there) through APIs and the command utility CHCP.COM. Their handling by Cygwin also depends on the CYGWIN environment variable. For background just a short reminder of the Windows encoding mess: Windows has Unicode and 8-bit versions of all APIs that take string values. Most of the Unicode versions only work on NT and it's descendents, on Windows 9x/Me the Unicode APIs are present but most just return an error. The 8-bit versions use different encodings for different locales. They are called ANSI, because they were based on ANSI/ISO standard encodings when they were first introduced. Windows consoles do not use those ANSI encodings, but another set called OEM encodings, these were inherited from DOS. Both ANSI and IBM encodings are identified by their number in IBM's codepage registry. Western Windows versions use 1252 for Windows APIs and 850 in the console. Theoretically, Windows should do the right translation under the covers. It may be as simple as setting the correct codepage or locale before trying to create the path... You can't change the encoding on Windows 9x/Me (at least not easily and not on a vanilla system). On NT you can use CHCP.COM. benny
Re: x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
Benjamin Riefenstahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and IBM encodings are identified by their number in IBM's codepage and OEM encodings ...
Re: x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
I think I have half of a fix for this (will need it to be tested, the sooner the better). The script was using 'cygpath -A -P' to save the path to the icon folder in a shell variable. I figured it might be better to instead pass '-A -P' to mkshortcut directly, since it can handle those paths; this may avoid the problem entirely, but I won't know until someone tests it. There will still be a remaining problem though: icon removal will still fail. See, mkshortcut doesn't remove shortcuts, and I don't think there is a utility in cygutils that does. So, those that are interested in this would either have to add a parameter to mkshortcut to have it remove a shortcut, or they would have to create a new utility based on mkshortcut (e.g. 'rmshortcut') that would facilitate removal of icons in non-US locales. I'll be released X-start-menu-icons-1.1.0-1 shortly. Please test it and report as soon as possible. Harold
Re: x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
Oh darn, it will be slightly more complex than I had hoped. We will actually have to add an option to mkshortcut to have it create all folders on the specified path, because it fails if the folders do not exist and we have the same problem if we create the folders from our shell script. Ugh. Anyone want to take ownership of this? I think it may be more than I have time for. Harold Harold L Hunt II wrote: I think I have half of a fix for this (will need it to be tested, the sooner the better). The script was using 'cygpath -A -P' to save the path to the icon folder in a shell variable. I figured it might be better to instead pass '-A -P' to mkshortcut directly, since it can handle those paths; this may avoid the problem entirely, but I won't know until someone tests it. There will still be a remaining problem though: icon removal will still fail. See, mkshortcut doesn't remove shortcuts, and I don't think there is a utility in cygutils that does. So, those that are interested in this would either have to add a parameter to mkshortcut to have it remove a shortcut, or they would have to create a new utility based on mkshortcut (e.g. 'rmshortcut') that would facilitate removal of icons in non-US locales. I'll be released X-start-menu-icons-1.1.0-1 shortly. Please test it and report as soon as possible. Harold
Re: x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
[Let's try this again, this time without passing on the false-positive from SpamAssassin] Volker, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: Hi see subject. Following is a dir listing (inclusive control-chars) from my Documents and Settings directory on a german W2K system. Had you ever installed the XFree86-bin-icons package? Did it work, or did it have the same problem? This looks like a code page problem (the ³ is an ü in the Windows codepage) Check the output of: cygpath -A -P That is how we get the path to that folder. Other than that, I had no ideas why bash would munge this... but my knowledge on this topic is not great. Anyone have some ideas? Harold
Re: x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Harold L Hunt II wrote: [Let's try this again, this time without passing on the false-positive from SpamAssassin] Volker, Dr. Volker Zell wrote: Hi see subject. Following is a dir listing (inclusive control-chars) from my Documents and Settings directory on a german W2K system. Had you ever installed the XFree86-bin-icons package? Did it work, or did it have the same problem? This looks like a code page problem (the ? is an u in the Windows codepage) Check the output of: cygpath -A -P That is how we get the path to that folder. Other than that, I had no ideas why bash would munge this... but my knowledge on this topic is not great. Anyone have some ideas? Harold This is probably an ASCII vs Unicode issue. Most of Cygwin calls the ASCII versions of the Windows API. I'm not sure Cygwin is even Unicode-aware. Windows uses Unicode internally to encode the filenames. Theoretically, Windows should do the right translation under the covers. It may be as simple as setting the correct codepage or locale before trying to create the path... Not running the localized version of Windows, I can't really investigate this. Volker, do you feel up to it? A simple 'ls -d `cygpath -A -P`' should expose the bug, and setting the right locale before this call may make it go away, in which case please report to the list what made it work... :-) Igor -- http://cs.nyu.edu/~pechtcha/ |\ _,,,---,,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] ZZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_[EMAIL PROTECTED] |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' Igor Pechtchanski, Ph.D. '---''(_/--' `-'\_) fL a.k.a JaguaR-R-R-r-r-r-.-.-. Meow! I have since come to realize that being between your mentor and his route to the bathroom is a major career booster. -- Patrick Naughton
x-start-menu-icons doesn't install on a W2K german OS
Hi see subject. Following is a dir listing (inclusive control-chars) from my Documents and Settings directory on a german W2K system. 11:13 AM [513] pwd /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users 11:13 AM [514] ls -lat --show-control-chars total 0 drwxr-xr-x+ 9 root admin4096 Mar 12 10:59 ./ drwxrwxrwx+ 3 vzelladmin 0 Mar 12 10:59 Startmen³/ - got created by setup.exe drwxrwxr-x+ 7 root system 4096 Apr 13 2003 ../ drwxr-xr-x+ 2 root admin 0 Mar 31 2003 Desktop/ drwxr-xr-x+ 3 root admin4096 Feb 23 2003 Startmenü/ - This was there already drwxrwxrwx+ 2 root admin 0 May 29 2002 DRM/ drwxr-xr-x+ 4 root admin 0 Feb 24 2002 Dokumente/ drwxr-xr-x+ 3 root admin 0 Feb 5 2002 Anwendungsdaten/ drwxr-xr-x+ 2 root admin 0 Feb 5 2002 Vorlagen/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users Here the relvant part from setup.log.full 2004/03/12 10:59:24 running: D:\\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/fontconfig.sh 2004/03/12 10:59:27 running: D:\\bin\sh.exe -c /etc/postinstall/X-start-menu-icons.sh mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\bitmap.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Tools\dpsexec.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? dpsexec:Display PostScript command interface:/c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen³/Programme/Cygwin-X/Tools:: mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Information\dpsinfo.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? dpsinfo:The Display PostScript extension:/c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen³/Programme/Cygwin-X/Information:: mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Tools\editres.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Information\fc-list.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? fc-list:List available FreeType fonts:/c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen³/Programme/Cygwin-X/Information:: mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Toys\glxgears.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Information\glxinfo.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? glxinfo:GLX information:/c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen³/Programme/Cygwin-X/Information:: mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Toys\ico.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\oclock.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Information\showrgb.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? showrgb:List rgb database:/c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen³/Programme/Cygwin-X/Information:: mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Games\texteroids.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Tools\viewres.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Tools\wmagnify.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\xbiff.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\xcalc.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\xclock.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Tools\xconsole.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Tools\xcutsel.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\xditview.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All Users\Startmen³\Programme\Cygwin-X\Information\xdpyinfo.lnk failed; does the target directory exist? xdpyinfo:Display information:/c/Dokumente und Einstellungen/All Users/Startmen³/Programme/Cygwin-X/Information:: mkshortcut: Saving c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\All
