Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 05:46:22PM -0800, Razer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/21/2017 03:41 PM, Marina Brown wrote:
> >The "Moderate Opposition" was Al Queda. ISIS spun off from them because they 
> >were too
> >moderate.
> >
> >...but yeah it is true that these scumbags were funded by the State Dept to 
> >get rid of Assad.
> 
> Actually ISIS traces farther back To Libya. Remember Libya? We turned it
> into an ashtray. A failed state like Somalia...

"failed state"?

NOW it's a failed state.

Before the West turned it into an ashtray it was where African
emmigrants to Europe usually stopped, got work and settled down, making
Libya one of the most prosperous and stable African nations for many
years. See also da Wiki:

"From 1977 onward, per capita income in the country rose to more than US
$11,000, the fifth-highest in Africa,[59] while the Human Development
Index became the highest in Africa and greater than that of Saudi
Arabia.[60] This was achieved without borrowing any foreign loans,
keeping Libya debt-free.[61]"



> As to Why The US Wanted Muammar al-Gadaffi Dead...
> 
> The War On Libya Is A War On Most Of Africa
> http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/2011/07/why-they-want-muammar-al-gadaffi-dead.html

The great quote from the top of that page:
"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or
religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence.
Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners never do.”"
 Samuel P. Huntington



Certainly that "financially independent, no foreign debt" was a standout
for Libya under Qaddafi, backed by his building a solid gold bullion
store for the country (nearly 150 tonnes).

Western meddling in foreign nations is disheartening and fundamentally
abominable.


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald

No he did not. The woman fabricated it.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/how-author-timothy-tyson-found-the-woman-at-the-center-of-the-emmett-till-case


She spent a short time alone with Till, during which time she now says 
nothing happened.  After that short time, Till whistled at her, which 
caused her husband to believe that something had happened.


Till did not deserve to be killed for whistling at her, but today it 
often enough happens that people are killed for similar acts.


I was in an elevator with a young lady.  A man said "Hello" to that lady 
and smiled at her.  I placed my hand on her shoulder and stared at him 
expressionlessly and silently.  From his reaction I am pretty sure he 
feared I was going to kill him, even though my expression was totally 
neutral, blank, and stone faced.


Because people do get killed for that sort of thing today.  Race has 
nothing to do with it.  That was a murder, not a lynching, and similar 
murders happen today all the time.



But murders are not lynchings. You are apt to be murdered today
regardless of race for hitting on another man's woman even if you do not
do so in a crude and offensive way.  Emmett Till was killed furtively
and secretively, not lynched. Happens today all the time, regardless of
race.

For it to be a lynching, has to be done openly with social approval. The
accusation is that it was socially acceptable for white people to openly
kill blacks for frivolous cause.

Name a black man who was wrongfully lynched - killed openly and publicly
for with social approval for frivolous cause.



How about the Tulsa massacre ? I am sure you have some excuse for that.


The Tulsa massacre was the murder of ten white men by racist blacks, 
followed by whites ethnically cleansing the infestation of dangerous 
blacks from their town.


A black man assaulted a white woman.  He was arrested.

Believing he was likely to be lynched a group of 75 armed blacks went to 
the courthouse and politely asked that he be secured to receive a fair 
trial - the white sheriff told them he would receive a fair trial and 
politely asked them to go home.


These seventy five armed black men confronted a large group of white men 
in a predominantly white area, some of them armed, who they suspected 
intended to lynch the black youth who had assaulted a white woman.  The 
blacks opened fire, killing ten of the white men.


In short, blacks started it, and whites finished it.

If the whites had actually grabbed the youth from the courthouse you 
would have a point.  But the blacks opened fire on suspicion that the 
whites might grab the youth from the courthouse, which is much the same 
thing as blacks lynching whites on vague suspicion, and very different 
from whites lynching blacks on vague suspicion.



And if there was a single case where the evidence was thin or the
offense trivial, you would be using that case, not Emmett Till.



You REALLY are a hard core racist.


So produce your example of someone wrongfully lynched.


Re: Is email really that hard?

2017-02-21 Thread grarpamp
Same with failure to wrap lines.


Is email really that hard?

2017-02-21 Thread grarpamp
In addition to not putting retarded spaces in links
which does nothing useful, you can also learn to
preserve threading on replies, which is actually useful.
Top posting, bulk quoting, html, shortlink svcs... all bad.
wtfppl.


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Marina Brown
On 02/21/2017 11:34 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
> On 2/22/2017 1:53 PM, Marina Brown wrote:
>> Most lynchings were just like the murder of Emmett Till. The man was
>> wrongfully accused of hitting on a white woman and murdered for it
> 
> Emmet did hit on her - just not in the crude and offensive way he was
> wrongfully accused of doing.
> 

No he did not. The woman fabricated it.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/how-author-timothy-tyson-found-the-woman-at-the-center-of-the-emmett-till-case


> But murders are not lynchings. You are apt to be murdered today
> regardless of race for hitting on another man's woman even if you do not
> do so in a crude and offensive way.  Emmett Till was killed furtively
> and secretively, not lynched. Happens today all the time, regardless of
> race.
> 
> For it to be a lynching, has to be done openly with social approval. The
> accusation is that it was socially acceptable for white people to openly
> kill blacks for frivolous cause.
> 
> Name a black man who was wrongfully lynched - killed openly and publicly
> for with social approval for frivolous cause.
> 

How about the Tulsa massacre ? I am sure you have some excuse for that.

>> The movie "The birth of a nation" showed how white people liked to
>> murder black people and use the excuse of rape. All too real.
> 
> Liar.
> 
> "The birth of a nation" depicts black men who actually did rape women
> being rightfully and justly hung for their crimes.
> 
> In every actual real life lynching, where the offender was executed
> publicly and openly with social approval, there was reasonable evidence
> of serious criminal offenses.
> 

Nonsense. A lot of times they were killed for standing up to whites.
Sometimes union organizers were murdered for standing up to bosses.

> And if there was a single case where the evidence was thin or the
> offense trivial, you would be using that case, not Emmett Till.
> 

You REALLY are a hard core racist.

The time of white supremacy is past. This is just a tiny bubble.

Anyway i have wasted enough time with you. You are the worst type of
trash. I know i can never reason with you.

PLONK !



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Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald

On 2/22/2017 1:53 PM, Marina Brown wrote:

Most lynchings were just like the murder of Emmett Till. The man was
wrongfully accused of hitting on a white woman and murdered for it


Emmet did hit on her - just not in the crude and offensive way he was 
wrongfully accused of doing.


But murders are not lynchings. You are apt to be murdered today 
regardless of race for hitting on another man's woman even if you do not 
do so in a crude and offensive way.  Emmett Till was killed furtively 
and secretively, not lynched. Happens today all the time, regardless of 
race.


For it to be a lynching, has to be done openly with social approval. 
The accusation is that it was socially acceptable for white people to 
openly kill blacks for frivolous cause.


Name a black man who was wrongfully lynched - killed openly and publicly 
for with social approval for frivolous cause.



The movie "The birth of a nation" showed how white people liked to
murder black people and use the excuse of rape. All too real.


Liar.

"The birth of a nation" depicts black men who actually did rape women 
being rightfully and justly hung for their crimes.


In every actual real life lynching, where the offender was executed 
publicly and openly with social approval, there was reasonable evidence 
of serious criminal offenses.


And if there was a single case where the evidence was thin or the 
offense trivial, you would be using that case, not Emmett Till.


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread John Newman



> On Feb 21, 2017, at 7:25 PM, Anti Fag  wrote:
> 
> > John Newman jnn at synfin.org
> > Tue Feb 21 11:25:51 PST 2017
> > 
> > How about the 3million+ illegal votes he repeatedly brings up?
> 
> For 2 million illegal registered claim, here are two links referencing the 
> same "study":
> http:// 
> washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/15/nearly-2-million-non-citizen-hispanics-illegally-r/
> http:// 
> infowars.com/up-to-2-million-non-citizens-illegally-registered-to-vote-in-the-us/
> 
> For 800,000 illegal votes claim, here is an article:
> http:// 
> washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-80-votes-from-nonciti/
> 
> I see 3 and 5 mil claims but original quote was “if you deduct the millions 
> of people who voted illegally.” then said “Forget that. Forget all that. Just 
> take a look at the registration and we’re going to do it.”.
> 
> > His claim that his win was the biggest electoral win in decades?
> 
> It was, following Bush Sr. and Obama, lol.  Top three seems legit.  Besides, 
> he was fed that false statement right before he spoke, it seems.  
> Here is a video:
> https:// youtube.com/watch?v=v0Qeq3qVUzM
>  
> > His claim the US murder rate is the highest in 47 years?
> 
> The national rate is not comparable to local rates, such as Chicago, which 
> are up.
> 
> Here are some links with numbers:
> https:// wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicide_rate
> https:// 
> ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/murder-topic-page/murdermain_final
> http:// time.com/4607059/murder-rate-increase-us-cities-2016/
> http:// infowars.com/fbi-us-homicide-rate-at-51-year-low/
> 
> Here is some execution shit covering exactly 47 years:
> http:// deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state
> http:// 
> deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates
> 
> Rates have lowered, it seems, lol.
> 
> It seems that this is some 8D chess, where the President claims a pro 
> gun-censorship "fact" to shed light on the reality that as guns and "mass 
> shootings" increase in number and occurrence, death rates are actually 
> eaual-to or lower-than the late 60's, "when kids were safe to just play the 
> streets".
> 
> Keep in mind:
> The killing of a felon by a peace officer in the line of duty.""
> The killing of a felon, during the commission of a felony, by a private 
> citizen.""
> 
> Because these killings are determined through law enforcement investigation 
> to be justifiable, they are tabulated separately from murder and nonnegligent 
> manslaughter.""
> 
> And to your point, quotes are "45 years"; accusation that you are a lying 
> shill would be false, while reality that you mispoke or misremebered (or were 
> fed disinformation) becomes more likely.  Pay that respect to your president.
> 
> > immigration executive order
> 
> Still unraveling, fam.
> 
> > He NEVER made fun of the disabled reporter, right?
> 
> He did not; he was imitating a standard retard. Which Kovaleski is, a mental 
> retard.
> Here is a video from your pals CiEnEn:
> https:// youtube.com/watch?v=PX9reO3QnUA
> 
> > It goes on and on and on
> 
> It does.  Keep up with shilling.  Maybe your family will be spared by the 
> marxists for helping them regain power.  I wish you the best, comrade Newman.
> 
> We expect more from a confirmed hiphop-head.
> 

I'm not your fam, you fucking moron. I can't believe the effort you put into 
refuting those claims, and it's still all so much bullshit :)  Go suck some 
more cheeto dick you fucking whore.

Another one for the kill file.




Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread juan
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 11:57:21 +1000
"James A. Donald"  wrote:

> > On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:21:32 +1000
> "James A. Donald"  wrote:
> > > For a good summary of the relevant evidence on Trump and Sweden:
>  > > 
> https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/02/21/trump-is-completely-right-about-the-crisis-in-sweden/
> 
> On 2/22/2017 9:51 AM, juan wrote:
> > hint : your fuckingly stupid conservative propaganda is not
> > 'evidence'.
> 
> You live in a world of your own, entirely impervious to external
> reality.

are you still alive james? DAmn




Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread juan
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:46:07 +1100
Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> 
> And one prime benefit at least - Trump's presidency has drawn out
> Razer's true self 

wich is the same as your true self.




[WAR] the refreshing (if embarrassing) decline of the Western "empire" regime

2017-02-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
"Not every cat is a lion": Shoigu shoots down UK's "bear paws" comment
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/02/not-every-cat-is-lion-shoigu-shoots.html


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald

On 2/22/2017 11:03 AM, juan wrote:

You presented evidence of the swedish rape statistics being
(even more) cooked since 2005. They are cooked by the feminazis.


We also have a pile of anecdotes about legitimate rape reaching 
terrifying levels.





Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:21:32 +1000

"James A. Donald"  wrote:

> For a good summary of the relevant evidence on Trump and Sweden:
> > 
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/02/21/trump-is-completely-right-about-the-crisis-in-sweden/


On 2/22/2017 9:51 AM, juan wrote:

hint : your fuckingly stupid conservative propaganda is not
'evidence'.


You live in a world of your own, entirely impervious to external reality.




Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:38:48PM -0300, Juan wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:23:17 +1100
> Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Or, according to Razer, murdered or in the very least killed, or
> > possibly just put "six feet under" or partially "made dead".
> 
> 
>   Now what about trumpo and his supporters? You might have not
>   noticed but trumpo's political system is pretty much the same
>   totalitarian system that rayzer advocate. Trumpo's philosophy?
>   Obey or die.
> 
>   So where do you stand now? Your trumpo posts and spam are just
>   a different flavor of poltical garbage, but nonetheless they
>   are pure garbage. 

I shall judge him by the results of his actions. He's only a month in
yet... and I can say for sure, the entertainment vector has a
reasonably high magnitude so far..

And one prime benefit at least - Trump's presidency has drawn out
Razer's true self into his very public pro-murder position; that's
at least a data point that may be useful to some one in the future.

And Trump's wall seems to have inspired Mexico to build a wall on their
southern borders, the DNC has walled their grounds and so the Trump
voters should be content on that policy front 



> > Razer says he needs to kill all those who discuss a pro-ethnic
> > nationalist viewpoint. Apparently because "muh 6 million".


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Marina Brown
On 02/21/2017 07:54 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
> "James A. Donald"  wrote:
>>> We have been presenting a pile of evidence that Trump told the
>>> unmentionable truth about Sweden.
> 
> On 2/22/2017 9:38 AM, juan wrote:
>> That's a fuckinly stupid lie.
> 
> We present evidence, and no matter how much evidence we present, you
> just say to us, as you say of Trump "lie"
> 
> 

You gave no evidence - just stuff from a propaganda outfit.

I don't believe a word from any organization with Dershowitz on the
board he has a clear agenda and he has for years.

He might have been a great defense lawyer but nowadays his main
occupation seems to be defending the actions of Israel against Palestinians.

Dershowitz was a terrible dissapointment.



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Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Razer



On 02/21/2017 03:41 PM, Marina Brown wrote:

The "Moderate Opposition" was Al Queda. ISIS spun off from them because they 
were too
moderate.

...but yeah it is true that these scumbags were funded by the State Dept to get 
rid of Assad.


Actually ISIS traces farther back To Libya. Remember Libya? We 
turned it into an ashtray. A failed state like Somalia... but with 
modern oil infrastructure.


The group's official name was the LIFG. The US State Department and CIA 
hired them to sodomize Muammar al-Gadaffi with a bayonet and provided 
Special Operators and NATO air strike to assist in that goal. THEN they 
began looting weapons from Libya's armories and taking them to Syria, as 
the DIA watched and wrote un-acted-on memos => 
.


THEN they ran into all the Iraq baathists who had fled Iraq to Syria. 
THEN we see the inception of what was initially known as ISIS. I 
seriously doubt the Baathists are still involved though.



As to Why The US Wanted Muammar al-Gadaffi Dead...

The War On Libya Is A War On Most Of Africa
http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/2011/07/why-they-want-muammar-al-gadaffi-dead.html

PS. You might also note that just about the time they were killing 
Christopher West, West Point was releasing a study saying the 
LIFG-affilated areas of Libya supplied the fighters in Iraq most likely 
to be killing US troops. 
http://auntieimperial.blogspot.com/2011/09/west-point-study-libyan-rebels-are-also.html






Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Marina Brown
On 02/21/2017 07:57 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
>> On 02/21/2017 06:21 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
>>> For a good summary of the relevant evidence on Trump and Sweden:
>>> https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/02/21/trump-is-completely-right-about-the-crisis-in-sweden/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But you guys will just stick your heads in the sand and say that anyone
>>> who is in the slightest contact with reality is obviously a nazi and
>>> should be physically attacked, so you should not listen to anything he
>>> says.
> 
> On 2/22/2017 9:33 AM, Marina Brown wrote:
>> You are not going to convince anyone of your crap.
> 
> Because you are utterly indifferent to truth and reality.
> 
> 

I know reality - This swedish thing is just like the Emmett Till Lynching.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/01/how-author-timothy-tyson-found-the-woman-at-the-center-of-the-emmett-till-case

And decades later the white woman admitted she fabricated it all.

Same shit different decade.



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Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread juan
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:23:17 +1100
Zenaan Harkness  wrote:

> 
> Or, according to Razer, murdered or in the very least killed, or
> possibly just put "six feet under" or partially "made dead".


Now what about trumpo and his supporters? You might have not
noticed but trumpo's political system is pretty much the same
totalitarian system that rayzer advocate. Trumpo's philosophy?
Obey or die.

So where do you stand now? Your trumpo posts and spam are just
a different flavor of poltical garbage, but nonetheless they
are pure garbage. 






> 
> Razer says he needs to kill all those who discuss a pro-ethnic
> nationalist viewpoint. Apparently because "muh 6 million".



Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 09:21:32AM +1000, James A. Donald wrote:
> For a good summary of the relevant evidence on Trump and Sweden:
> https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/02/21/trump-is-completely-right-about-the-crisis-in-sweden/
> 
> But you guys will just stick your heads in the sand and say that anyone who
> is in the slightest contact with reality is obviously a nazi and should be
> physically attacked,

Or, according to Razer, murdered or in the very least killed, or
possibly just put "six feet under" or partially "made dead".

Razer says he needs to kill all those who discuss a pro-ethnic
nationalist viewpoint. Apparently because "muh 6 million".


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
A worthy follow up read, on the topic of political appointments and a
man who certainly bucked the establishment expectations during his
career - I'm the haters will hate, yet it's hard to avoid that twinge of
inspiration when a serving army Major at the time (Vietnam), goes public
with a scathing report on the parochial interests of his superiors:

Trump appoints HR McMaster as national security adviser
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/20/trump-appoints-hr-mcmaster-national-security-adviser


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald

On 02/21/2017 06:21 PM, James A. Donald wrote:

For a good summary of the relevant evidence on Trump and Sweden:
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/02/21/trump-is-completely-right-about-the-crisis-in-sweden/


But you guys will just stick your heads in the sand and say that anyone
who is in the slightest contact with reality is obviously a nazi and
should be physically attacked, so you should not listen to anything he
says.


On 2/22/2017 9:33 AM, Marina Brown wrote:

You are not going to convince anyone of your crap.


Because you are utterly indifferent to truth and reality.



Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald

"James A. Donald"  wrote:

We have been presenting a pile of evidence that Trump told the
unmentionable truth about Sweden.


On 2/22/2017 9:38 AM, juan wrote:

That's a fuckinly stupid lie.


We present evidence, and no matter how much evidence we present, you 
just say to us, as you say of Trump "lie"




Sweden says YES !

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
> juan juan.g71 at gmail.com
> Tue Feb 21 15:35:47 PST 2017
>
> Sure, 'exponential' growth.

You are correct. I should have written 'near-linear growth'. I see you agree 
with rest.

> That shows exactly what kind of dishonest and retarded asshole you are.

Lol. Wut.

https:// wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden:
Sweden began recording national crime statistics in 1950, and the method for 
recording crime has basically remained unchanged until the mid-1960s, when the 
Swedish police introduced new procedures for crime statistics, which have been 
presented as a partial explanation for the historical increase in crime 
reports."

From fucking xl doc:
https:// 
unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/CTS_Sexual_violence.xls:
Definition: “Rape” means sexual intercourse without valid consent.""

If you graph the numbers for 'Rates per 100,000 Population' for Sweden, you get 
"muh growth".

But if you wanna look at pre-made graphs:
https:// 
unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/Crime-statistics/International_Statistics_on_Crime_and_Justice.pdf

Re: Trump Plan: Deport to Mexico Immigrants Crossing Border Illegally, Regardless of Nationality

2017-02-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 05:47:57PM -0500, Anti Fag wrote:
> > Cecilia Tanaka cecilia.tanaka at gmail.com
> > Tue Feb 21 14:32:00 PST 2017
> >
> > I don't understand this guy, uff... :(
> 
> Seems like you don't understand laws or logic, either. Seems fitting for a 
> "law"yer.
> 
> The key to understanding is in the title of your post:
> Deport [faggots] Crossing Border Illegally, Regardless of [who the fuck they 
> are].
> 
> Sounds about right to me. Unless you want to end up like Elin Krantz (2011):
> https:// google. 
> fr/search?q=Elin+Krantz=isch=G=1=R8OsWKbgOoG5Uv-PibAK

Damn!

Nice to see the wall will pay for itself, regardless of tax
dis/incentives etc, with even a minimal 9% reduction in --illegal--
immigration:

http://lidblog.com/border-wall-will-pay-for-itself/
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/09/this-is-what-trumps-border-wall-could-cost-us.html


And for those just can't, just can't, just can't get e-nou-ough:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-26/peak-irony-mexico-wants-build-wall-stop-illegal-immigration
"
Mexicans  want .. to stem the tide of immigration into their own country
by building the wall on their southern border with central America
"


Ha!!  Enjoy :)


Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
> John Newman jnn at synfin.org
> Tue Feb 21 11:25:51 PST 2017
>
> How about the 3million+ illegal votes he repeatedly brings up?

For 2 million illegal registered claim, here are two links referencing the same 
"study":
http:// 
washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/15/nearly-2-million-non-citizen-hispanics-illegally-r/
http:// 
infowars.com/up-to-2-million-non-citizens-illegally-registered-to-vote-in-the-us/

For 800,000 illegal votes claim, here is an article:
http:// 
washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinton-received-80-votes-from-nonciti/

I see 3 and 5 mil claims but original quote was “if you deduct the millions of 
people who voted illegally.” then said “Forget that. Forget all that. Just take 
a look at the registration and we’re going to do it.”.

> His claim that his win was the biggest electoral win in decades?

It was, following Bush Sr. and Obama, lol. Top three seems legit. Besides, he 
was fed that false statement right before he spoke, it seems.
Here is a video:
https:// youtube.com/watch?v=v0Qeq3qVUzM

> His claim the US murder rate is the highest in 47 years?

The national rate is not comparable to local rates, such as Chicago, which are 
up.

Here are some links with numbers:
https:// wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_homicide_rate
https:// 
ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/murder-topic-page/murdermain_final
http:// time.com/4607059/murder-rate-increase-us-cities-2016/
http:// infowars.com/fbi-us-homicide-rate-at-51-year-low/

Here is some execution shit covering exactly 47 years:
http:// deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state
http:// 
deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates

Rates have lowered, it seems, lol.

It seems that this is some 8D chess, where the President claims a pro 
gun-censorship "fact" to shed light on the reality that as guns and "mass 
shootings" increase in number and occurrence, death rates are actually eaual-to 
or lower-than the late 60's, "when kids were safe to just play the streets".

Keep in mind:
The killing of a felon by a peace officer in the line of duty.""
The killing of a felon, during the commission of a felony, by a private 
citizen.""

Because these killings are determined through law enforcement investigation to 
be justifiable, they are tabulated separately from murder and nonnegligent 
manslaughter.""

And to your point, quotes are "45 years"; accusation that you are a lying shill 
would be false, while reality that you mispoke or misremebered (or were fed 
disinformation) becomes more likely. Pay that respect to your president.

> immigration executive order

Still unraveling, fam.

> He NEVER made fun of the disabled reporter, right?

He did not; he was imitating a standard retard. Which Kovaleski is, a mental 
retard.
Here is a video from your pals CiEnEn:
https:// youtube.com/watch?v=PX9reO3QnUA

> It goes on and on and on

It does. Keep up with shilling. Maybe your family will be spared by the 
marxists for helping them regain power. I wish you the best, comrade Newman.

We expect more from a confirmed hiphop-head.

Re: NSA Contractors Join Privacy Shield

2017-02-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 07:33:40AM -0800, Razer wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/21/2017 05:33 AM, Rachael Tackett wrote:
> >The Privacy Shield framework is supposed to protect companies that
> >transfer personal data from the EU to the US. The US promised the EU that
> >it would provide data protection and put some limits on the US' mass
> >surveillance. Some members of the EU parliament are calling for Privacy
> >Shield to be suspended or at least re-negotiated. The US Department of
> >Commerce allowed known NSA contractors to join the Privacy Shield program.
> >Full story http://piratetimes.net/nsa-contractors-join-privacy-shield/
> 
> 
> Privacy Shield, if I remember correctly, is the NSA's industrial spying
> collaboration group. In return for not spying on the company's business the
> company is expected to GIVE the NSA their 'metadataz' in return for favors
> granted by FiveEyes.
> 
> If that sounds like to Fascism to you, you're right.
> 
> Funny thing is the alt-right wants Fascism in the US when the fact of the
> matter is the US has been a Fascist state for a long time, and the confusion
> of the alt-right about why that fascist state doesn't favor them is...
> priceless. As I said elsewhere the alt-right is more aptly referred to as
> 'alt-morons'. A... little... slow.


Another justification for murdering them I suppose Razer?


 Razer: "He's just a -little- bit dead your honour!"

 Judge: "How so?"

 Razer: "He's a little slow, you know, missing a few..."


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 07:14:59AM -0800, Razer wrote:
> And that's why
> the so-called 'alt-right' will fail.

Thanks. They gotta stick to facts. Letting the alt-right know
right now...


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Marina Brown
On 02/21/2017 05:58 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
> On 2/22/2017 2:01 AM, Marina Brown wrote:
>> There are guerilla groups fighting ISIS that are recruiting. Why not go
>> and fight ?
> 
> Islamic state is not my problem, except that it is, or very recently
> was, being funded by the State Department, through the State
> Department/CIA program of funding and arming supposedly "Moderate
> Islamic Opposition" - which opposition in practice somehow turns out to
> be not very moderate at all.
> 

Geez you don't even know what you are talking about. The "Moderate
Opposition" was Al Queda. ISIS spun off from them because they were too
moderate.

...but yeah it is true that these scumbags were funded by the State
Dept to get rid of Assad.

> Which makes the State Department and the CIA my, and Trump's, problem,
> rather than Islamic State.
> 
> 
> .
> 
The State Dept and CIA have been trying to mop up their mess for quite a
while. The US has a habit of creating monsters.

Do you recall Reagan calling the Mujahideen in Afghanistan the
equivalent of the founding fathers ? Do you know who they evolved into ?
Al Queda. ...Al Queda was funded and created by Reagan to get the
Soviets out of Afghanistan. ISIS is an Al Queda spin off. So it is
Reagans fault.

The US needs to stop funding and creating monsters.



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Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread juan
On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 08:43:23 +1000
"James A. Donald"  wrote:


> We have been presenting a pile of evidence that Trump told the 
> unmentionable truth about Sweden.

That's a fuckinly stupid lie. What your evidence shows actually
is that you a not only very dishonest but very stupid.






Re: Sweden says YES !

2017-02-21 Thread juan
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 17:23:47 -0500
Anti Fag  wrote:

> > exactly the point in time when 'statistics' started to 'go through
> > the roof'
> 
> It is exponential in growth since 70's, read pdfs, don't be like John.
> From some shit linked before:

Thanks. That shows exactly what kind of dishonest and retarded
asshole you are. Sure, 'exponential' growth. 

Go steal candy from children. That's how stupid you are.




Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Marina Brown
On 02/21/2017 06:01 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
>> On 02/20/2017 11:32 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
>>> Maybe on some matter that I did not check out, or was not familiar with,
>>> Trump was lying.  But on every matter that I know about, Trump told the
>>> truth, and you lot could not handle the truth.
> 
> 
> On 2/22/2017 2:05 AM, Marina Brown wrote:
>> Trump alway lies.
> 
> You keep saying this, but you, and the mainstream media just say it,
> without bothering with the inconvenience of evidence.
> 
> And when people present evidence for Trump's version and against the
> Mainstream Media version, no evidence can possibly suffice.
> 
> 
> 
Trump never bothers with evidence.



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Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Marina Brown
On 02/21/2017 06:03 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
> James A. Donald wrote:
>>> The Crusades are not over until Islam agrees that they are over.
>>>
>>> It takes two to make peace.  And what is happening in Sweden does not
>>> look much like peace.
> 
> On 2/22/2017 2:08 AM, Marina Brown wrote:
>> Um Trump is a deluded individual who really does not know the difference
>> between truth and his own fabrications. The Swedish attack did not
>> happen.
> 
> Lots of Swedish attacks did happen, and are happening right now.  Google
> rape sweden.
> 
> 
> 

The KKK always made up rape accusations too.

The last time i bumped into a KKK demo there was a lot of heavy chunks
of metal flying. It's past the statute of limitations so i can talk
about it HA !



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Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Marina Brown
On 02/21/2017 06:21 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
> For a good summary of the relevant evidence on Trump and Sweden:
> https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/02/21/trump-is-completely-right-about-the-crisis-in-sweden/
> 
> 
> But you guys will just stick your heads in the sand and say that anyone
> who is in the slightest contact with reality is obviously a nazi and
> should be physically attacked, so you should not listen to anything he
> says.
> 

I never called you a nazi. You obviously are a white nationalist. Me - i
really don't give a rats ass about all your concern about the white
race.

You seem to think you are in a group of white people arguing about
whether your racism is warrented.

Some of us are are not white and some of us are serious enemies of white
nationalists.

You are not going to convince anyone of your crap.



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Re: SS-GB: why the renewed obsession with alternative Nazi histories?

2017-02-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Ahh, joo Razer will enlighten the world with his unique, unverified and
unsupportable, truth.

And the heathens who disagree with him he shall raze to their graves,
ensuring their disagreement doesn't infect others with any inclination
to actual investigation and facts.

"But it's only a little censorship and self preservation" says Razer.

"No Razer, killing humans you disagree with is murder" says everyone
with that second unbonged neurone.



On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 06:59:57AM -0800, Razer wrote:
> Just vamping on the subject line, because the real version of Nazi history
> would dissuade too many Americans from 'alt-right' activities. All in all a
> stupid question not worth time spent in discussion.
> 
> Rr
> 
> 
> On 02/20/2017 10:47 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> >SS-GB: why the renewed obsession with alternative Nazi histories?
> >
> >http://theconversation.com/ss-gb-why-the-renewed-obsession-with-alternative-nazi-histories-73157
> >
> >"The Nazis are, once again, a subject of considerable cultural obsession.
> >From The Man in the High Castle to the BBC's new adaptation of SS-GB,
> >counterfactual Nazi nightmares are very much in vogue. This has happened
> >once before, points out Sam Edwards – such alternative histories also
> >proliferated in the 1960s. So what's behind their return?"
> 


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald






On 2/21/2017 5:13 PM, John Newman wrote:

You mean Trump spouts a line of utter nonsense that is quickly

denounced? Pretty much.


"James A. Donald" >> Denounced indeed - but the evidence that Trump 
spoke the truth and the

media lied and continued to lie just piles up, and up, and up.

As in the case of events in Sweden, so too in every other case where I
am familiar with the facts


On 2/22/2017 5:25 AM, John Newman wrote:

How about the 3million+ illegal votes he repeatedly brings up?


A reasonable estimate:  Recall Obama calling upon illegal immigrants to 
vote.  Unless millions of illegals were voting, would Hillary and Obama 
bother to go after their votes?


The reason that there "is no evidence of illegals voting" is that we are 
on the honor system.  No one is allowed to look for evidence of illegals 
voting.  There is absolutely no check to prevent them from voting, and 
no way of detecting it if they do.



His claim that his win was the biggest electoral win in decades?


In the electoral college, which is what he was targeting, it was.  If we 
had a system where the largest plurality won, his campaign, and 
Hillary's would have campaigned differently.  Hillary won the popular 
vote largely because she misjudged which states were in play.  Trump had 
his ear to the ground, knew which states were in play, and she did not.



His claim the US murder rate is the highest in 47 years?


He was wrong - but the murder rate did show a dramatic increase under 
Obama, the largest *increase* in 47 years.



He said only 109 people were affected by his immigration executive order?


Not what he said.


Oh, an oldy but a goody - he NEVER made fun of the disabled reporter, right?


No, he never made fun of a disabled reporter - he has used that gesture 
in other contexts.




Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald

James A. Donald wrote:

The Crusades are not over until Islam agrees that they are over.

It takes two to make peace.  And what is happening in Sweden does not
look much like peace.


On 2/22/2017 2:08 AM, Marina Brown wrote:

Um Trump is a deluded individual who really does not know the difference
between truth and his own fabrications. The Swedish attack did not happen.


Lots of Swedish attacks did happen, and are happening right now.  Google 
rape sweden.





Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald

On 2/22/2017 2:01 AM, Marina Brown wrote:

There are guerilla groups fighting ISIS that are recruiting. Why not go
and fight ?


Islamic state is not my problem, except that it is, or very recently 
was, being funded by the State Department, through the State 
Department/CIA program of funding and arming supposedly "Moderate 
Islamic Opposition" - which opposition in practice somehow turns out to 
be not very moderate at all.


Which makes the State Department and the CIA my, and Trump's, problem, 
rather than Islamic State.





Trump Plan: Deport to Mexico Immigrants Crossing Border Illegally, Regardless of Nationality

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
> Cecilia Tanaka cecilia.tanaka at gmail.com
> Tue Feb 21 14:32:00 PST 2017
>
> I don't understand this guy, uff... :(

Seems like you don't understand laws or logic, either. Seems fitting for a 
"law"yer.

The key to understanding is in the title of your post:
Deport [faggots] Crossing Border Illegally, Regardless of [who the fuck they 
are].

Sounds about right to me. Unless you want to end up like Elin Krantz (2011):
https:// google. 
fr/search?q=Elin+Krantz=isch=G=1=R8OsWKbgOoG5Uv-PibAK

peaceful sweden

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
> jim bell jdb10987 at yahoo.com
> Tue Feb 21 12:18:33 PST 2017
>
> Riot breaks out in Stockholm suburb

I was in before your "muh html editor liberty" LARPing ass, too:

SWEDEN RIOT: Police forced to shoot at protestors as violence erupts
https:// lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-February/036119.html

But I am sure you enjoy getting tolled in the fast lane.

Trump Plan: Deport to Mexico Immigrants Crossing Border Illegally, Regardless of Nationality

2017-02-21 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
(EN)  Trump Plan: Deport to Mexico Immigrants Crossing Border Illegally,
Regardless of Nationality.

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-plan-deport-anyone-crossing-mexican-border-regardless-of-nationality

(ES)  Trump quiere que México acepte migrantes deportados de EEUU, incluso
si no son mexicanos.

https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-quiere-deportar-a-mexico-a-los-que-crucen-la-frontera-ilegalmente

==

I don't understand this guy, uff...  :(

---
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curiosity.  It's your place in the world; it's your life.  Go on and do all
you can with it, and make it the life you want to live."  -  Mae Jemison


peaceful sweden, overwhelmed by NATO war refugees, has social problems

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
> Razer g2s at riseup.net
> Tue Feb 21 13:23:36 PST 2017
>
> I already posted about that.

You lying shitbag, I was in before your "muh anarchy" LARPing with the infos:

There's video, too. Faggot:
SWEDEN RIOT: Police forced to shoot at protestors as violence erupts
https:// lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-February/036119.html

I guess you "kill" all ideas other than your own at the "server".

Sweden says YES !

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
> juan juan.g71 at gmail.com
> Tue Feb 21 11:00:54 PST 2017
>
> made the legal definition of rape much wider in 2005

Only thing about 2004/5 "expansion" of the "rape" "law" that I could find (wiki 
source was shit) was "rape with more offenders": 2005: 90 Våldtäkt 
utvidgas/våldtäktpå minderåriga.

Dates you are looking for are 1975 & 1992.

1975: Immigrant and Minority Policy:
Since the Parliament decided in 1975 that Sweden should be multicultural and 
not Swedish, crime has exploded. Violent crime has increased by more than 300%, 
and rapes have increased by an unbelievable 1,472%.""

1992: 147 Våldtäkt utvidgas:
For example, in 1992 a legislative change came into force which shifted the 
dividing line between sexual assault and rape. This legislative change resulted 
in about a 25% increase in the level of registered rape offences.""

> exactly the point in time when 'statistics' started to 'go through the roof'

It is exponential in growth since 70's, read pdfs, don't be like John.
From some shit linked before:

Sweden did not become a country of immigration again until World War II. The 
modern era of immigration can be divided into four distinct stages, with each 
stage representing different types of immigrants and immigration:

1) Refugees from neighboring countries (1938 to 1948)
2) Labor immigration from Finland and southern Europe (1949 to 1971)
3) Family reunification and refugees from developing countries (1972 to 1989)
4) Asylum seekers from southeastern and Eastern Europe (1990 to present)

As a result of these differing flows, the once-dominant Scandinavians, who 
composed well over half of Sweden's foreign-born population in 1960, made up 
only one-fourth of the foreign born in 2004.""

> ranked as the number one country in gender equality

But to your point, Juan, Here is a table of all the "victim" protection "laws" 
passed in Sweden since the 70's:
http:// 
providus.lv/upload_file/Projekti/Kriminalitesibas/Victim%20support/6.%20SE.pdf

A local criticizing the "law":
https:// erlinghellenas.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/the-swedish-rape-law/

You can read the current "law" here: Chapter 6 of The Swedish Penal Code 
(1962:700):
http:// 
government.se/49cd61/contentassets/602a1b5a8d65426496402d99e19325d5/chapter-6-of-the-swedish-penal-code_unoffical-translation_20140922.pdf

Sweden Immigrant Crime Wave Goes International!

2017-02-21 Thread Razer
This a day or so after 300,000 people (organizer estimate, police said 
150k) held a protest and march DEMANDING more immigrants in the country 
 
But not THIS kind of immigrant!



Swede detained after Barcelona police fire on stolen butane gas truck

Police in Barcelona have detained a man after shooting at a truck 
loaded with butane gas canisters that was speeding the wrong way along 
a highway.


They opened fire on the vehicle as it headed towards the Spanish 
city's harbour on Tuesday, officials said.


The detained man, reported to be a Swedish national, has a history of 
psychiatric problems, the Spanish interior minister said.


Barcelona's city hall said the truck had been stolen.

Police started pursuing the vehicle after the driver, who was 
travelling at high speeds, failed to stop when ordered to do so, 
regional police chief Joan Carles Molinero said.


The driver then turned to make his way along the wrong side of a ring 
road in the city, finally coming to a stop when the truck hit a wall 
at about 11:00 local time (10:00 GMT).


Around 20 officers and at least six police cars arrived quickly on 
site, where several gas bottles were later seen lying on the ground.


At least one gunshot was visible on the windscreen of the truck, 
although officials have not said whether there were any injuries 
following the incident.


Spanish national television TVE reported that the truck had rammed 
several cars before police fired several times to stop it.


Spain's interior minister Juan Ignacio Zoido said in a tweet that the 
incident on Tuesday was "not a case of a terrorist act".


"The detained driver of the stolen butane gas truck has a psychiatric 
history," Mr Zoido said.


Mireia Ruiz, who witnessed the incident, said the driver ignored 
others who were urging him to stop.


"When people shouted at him, he would laugh and make offensive 
gestures with his hand," she told AFP.


Police said that the 32-year-old driver was being questioned.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39037674


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Marina Brown
On 02/21/2017 02:25 PM, John Newman wrote:
> 
> 
> On February 21, 2017 3:25:28 AM EST, "James A. Donald"  
> wrote:
>>
 As far as I know, every single dispute between Trump and the
>> mainstream media turns out this way.
>>
>> On 2/21/2017 5:13 PM, John Newman wrote:
>>> You mean Trump spouts a line of utter nonsense that is quickly
>> denounced? Pretty much.
>>
>>
>> Denounced indeed - but the evidence that Trump spoke the truth and the 
>> media lied and continued to lie just piles up, and up, and up.
>>
>> As in the case of events in Sweden, so too in every other case where I 
>> am familiar with the facts
> 
> How about the 3million+ illegal votes he repeatedly brings up?
> 
> His claim that his win was the biggest electoral win in decades?
> 
> His claim the US murder rate is the highest in 47 years?
> 
> He said only 109 people were affected by his immigration executive order?
> 
> Oh, an oldy but a goody - he NEVER made fun of the disabled reporter, right?
> 
> It goes on and on and on, I could research this and just keep piling them on, 
> but I wont bother. All politicians lie, it's in their nature. However Trump 
> takes it to an extreme that I've never seen, and hilariously often lies about 
> completely inconsequential shit. Your die-hard defense of him (in fact you 
> LITERALLY want a King Trump - "vivat rex", LOL) speaks volumes about your own 
> credulity and the fantasy world you crave: only white males who, again 
> literally, own their wives, with a medieval sense of social mores. You are a 
> special kind of sick, a special kind of stupid, and I'm adding you to a 
> special kind of mail filter so I don't keep losing my shit and replying to 
> your insane bullshit.
> 
> 
> 
> John
> 

I've protested every president since and including Reagan. They all seem
to be obsessed with increasing the power of the presidency. Trump is the
most blatent about it but Obama and W were quite effective at
contributing to the imperial presidency.

To Obamas credit - i may be wrong in giving him any credit - i did see
him give up some cyberweapons when people associated with the NSA told
the TOR project about the certificate pinning holes in the TOR browser.
It seemed to me he did not want either Hillary or the Orange shit baboon
to have that cyberweapon. I might be wrong if he had anything to do with
it but i think he did.

I think as cypherpunks we should focuss on our duty to use cryptography
to mitigate governmental power. I really find it beyond the pale to have
one of our number advocating for an authoritarian.

What does James think about the CBP demanding passwords of people ?
Siezing devices. I am sure that that key escrow will come up again. Will
he support it now that his dude is in power ? Is he only a cypherpunk
for white people ?




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peaceful sweden

2017-02-21 Thread jim bell
Riot breaks out in Stockholm suburb Trump referred to in speech 
http://dailym.ai/2kHpXaZ via http://dailym.ai/android
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

Re: SS-GB: why the renewed obsession with alternative Nazi histories?

2017-02-21 Thread Joshua Case
Apologies, I had intentionally thought to send to a single user, but hit the 
whole list inadvertently - i am too stupid to have an email account. Please 
forgive.


> On Feb 21, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Joshua Case  wrote:
> 
> Well he’s correct in a way - in 1962 Philip K Dick wrote a novel called Man 
> In The High Tower - several of his books have already been made into movies 
> and television shows. He was mainly into extremely speculative, futurist 
> Science-Fiction - Total Recall, Bladerunner, A Scanner Darkly - all from his 
> pen. 
> 
> He dealt heavily with Gnostic ideas, hidden knowledge and spiritual notions 
> of early christianity, the divine veil - he wrote some very strong material. 
> There are reports that he had "mental health issues” though who knows what 
> that means - I don’t know anyone who doesn’t, but he was definitely not a 
> neo-NAZI, philosophically - you can gather this from his writing, 
> particularly in his Exegesis 
>   where he 
> describes his contact with VALIS - Vast Active Living Intelligence System - 
> he had other things on his mind. 
> 
> In short, i think the described proliferation of the alternate histories in 
> the early 60s, and again now coincide with release and re-release of his 
> novel - which was inspired by Ward’s novel using the same idea, that the 
> other side had won the war, with the American Civil War…
> 
> PKD was a great mind and singular poet, his loss is sad for artists. 
> 
> Hope you don’t mind me replying personally, don’t want to cause anyone to 
> splash noise on the list because they feel compelled to disagree with me out 
> of spite or annoyance or whatever, 
> 
> hope you’re well, 
> JC
> 
>  - 
> 
> 
> Joshua Case
> jwc...@gmail.com 
> 
> “International tensions. Mounting international tensions. First there were 
> states of precautionary alert, then there were enhanced readiness centers. 
> This was followed by maximum arc situational preparedness. We can measure the 
> gravity of events by tracing the increasingly abstract nature of the 
> terminology. One more level of vagueness and that could be it."
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 1:47 AM, Cecilia Tanaka > > wrote:
>> 
>> SS-GB: why the renewed obsession with alternative Nazi histories?
>> 
>> http://theconversation.com/ss-gb-why-the-renewed-obsession-with-alternative-nazi-histories-73157
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> "The Nazis are, once again, a subject of considerable cultural obsession. 
>> From The Man in the High Castle to the BBC's new adaptation of SS-GB, 
>> counterfactual Nazi nightmares are very much in vogue. This has happened 
>> once before, points out Sam Edwards – such alternative histories also 
>> proliferated in the 1960s. So what's behind their return?"
> 



Trump and the cycle of dehumanisation

2017-02-21 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Trump and the cycle of dehumanisation
.

http://theconversation.com/trump-and-the-cycle-of-dehumanisation-73319

​"
Trump’s rhetoric resonates with people who see some groups as only
marginally human
​."​
​
Cute Bonus - Conspiracy Theories:  http://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/a20658
 :D


Re: SS-GB: why the renewed obsession with alternative Nazi histories?

2017-02-21 Thread John Newman
Funny, I've read that book years ago. It was decent. Had no idea there was a TV 
show .. some more crap to waste my brain on ;)


On February 21, 2017 9:59:57 AM EST, Razer  wrote:
>Just vamping on the subject line, because the real version of Nazi 
>history would dissuade too many Americans from 'alt-right' activities. 
>All in all a stupid question not worth time spent in discussion.
>
>Rr
>
>
>On 02/20/2017 10:47 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
>> SS-GB: why the renewed obsession with alternative Nazi histories?
>>
>>
>http://theconversation.com/ss-gb-why-the-renewed-obsession-with-alternative-nazi-histories-73157
>>
>> "The Nazis are, once again, a subject of considerable cultural 
>> obsession. From The Man in the High Castle to the BBC's new
>adaptation 
>> of SS-GB, counterfactual Nazi nightmares are very much in vogue. This
>
>> has happened once before, points out Sam Edwards – such alternative 
>> histories also proliferated in the 1960s. So what's behind their
>return?"

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Your Papers and Social Media Passwords, Please

2017-02-21 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
Your Papers and Social Media Passwords, Please

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/02/21/your-papers-and-social-
media-passwords-please

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you can with it, and make it the life you want to live."  -  Mae Jemison


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread John Newman


On February 21, 2017 3:25:28 AM EST, "James A. Donald"  
wrote:
>
>>> As far as I know, every single dispute between Trump and the
>mainstream media turns out this way.
>
>On 2/21/2017 5:13 PM, John Newman wrote:
>> You mean Trump spouts a line of utter nonsense that is quickly
>denounced? Pretty much.
>
>
>Denounced indeed - but the evidence that Trump spoke the truth and the 
>media lied and continued to lie just piles up, and up, and up.
>
>As in the case of events in Sweden, so too in every other case where I 
>am familiar with the facts

How about the 3million+ illegal votes he repeatedly brings up?

His claim that his win was the biggest electoral win in decades?

His claim the US murder rate is the highest in 47 years?

He said only 109 people were affected by his immigration executive order?

Oh, an oldy but a goody - he NEVER made fun of the disabled reporter, right?

It goes on and on and on, I could research this and just keep piling them on, 
but I wont bother. All politicians lie, it's in their nature. However Trump 
takes it to an extreme that I've never seen, and hilariously often lies about 
completely inconsequential shit. Your die-hard defense of him (in fact you 
LITERALLY want a King Trump - "vivat rex", LOL) speaks volumes about your own 
credulity and the fantasy world you crave: only white males who, again 
literally, own their wives, with a medieval sense of social mores. You are a 
special kind of sick, a special kind of stupid, and I'm adding you to a special 
kind of mail filter so I don't keep losing my shit and replying to your insane 
bullshit.



John

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Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread juan
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 20:14:01 +1000
"James A. Donald"  wrote:


> 
> When I and others present lots of evidence from multiple sources that 
> Trump was telling the truth about Sweden, 


So let me wrap this up. Antifag, pro-fascist-trump helpfully
provided this link : 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden

Here are some key points : 

"Sweden reformed its sex crime legislation and made the legal
definition of rape much wider in 2005" 

OOOPPSS! That's exactly the point in time when 'statistics'
started to 'go through the roof'. Who would have thought it...

"The Swedish police also record each instance of sexual
violence in every case separately, leading to an inflated
number of cases"

And last but not least, the swedish cesspool, a small province
of the americunt empire  " has been ranked as the number one
country in gender equality" 


Anyway, looks like your stupid lies have been thouroughly
exposed james. 




> and the mainstream media
> were lying, you find that no evidence can possibly be good enough.
> 
> In your eyes, no evidence is required to prove Trump wrong, and no 
> evidence can possibly be good enough to prove him right.
> 



Re: 33 questions about Donald Trump and Russia

2017-02-21 Thread Razer



On 02/21/2017 10:23 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

33 questions about Donald Trump and Russia

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/20/14625788/trump-russia-putin-manafort-page-stone 


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your curiosity.  It's your place in the world; it's your life.  Go on 
and do all you can with it, and make it the life you want to live."  - 
 Mae Jemison



Donald Trump is a racketeer-affiliated real estate operator 
. That's the 
reason his finance records are so obscure. It has nothing to do with 
Russia whatsoever except perhaps connections with the Russian mob.


Putin trusts Trump just about as far as he can throw him,. He KNOWS how 
the Russian mob works.


Rr


33 questions about Donald Trump and Russia

2017-02-21 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
33 questions about Donald Trump and Russia

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/20/14625788/trump-russia-putin-manafort-page-stone
---
"Don't let anyone rob you of your imagination, your creativity, or your
curiosity.  It's your place in the world; it's your life.  Go on and do all
you can with it, and make it the life you want to live."  -  Mae Jemison


Fwd: [Internet Policy] FYI - Joint statement by 50 orgs on proposal to require social media passwords at US border

2017-02-21 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
FYI.

c.


-- Forwarded message --
From: Dan York 
Date: Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 11:50 AM
Subject: [Internet Policy] FYI - Joint statement by 50 orgs on proposal to
require social media passwords at US border


FYI, today the Internet Society joined with 50 other organizations to issue
a joint statement expressing concerns about a proposal to require
disclosure of social media account passwords as a condition of entry to the
U.S.:

https://cdt.org/insight/no-to-dhs-social-media-password-requirement/

We published our own companion statement as a post from our President and
CEO Kathy Brown:

https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/public-policy/2017/02/
internet-society-speaks-out-against-proposed-password-disclosure

That has been shared on our @InternetSociety social media channels at:

https://twitter.com/internetsociety/status/834044479501959169
https://www.facebook.com/InternetSociety/photos/a.1015012010
9253239.254763.56134108238/10154045837103239/?type=3
https://plus.google.com/+InternetSociety/posts/92XyJvx4yzk

Additionally, we also published a supporting post explaining more about why
social media accounts are of such a great concern:

https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/tech-matters/2017/02/da
nger-giving-social-media-passwords-so-many-other-services-are-connected

We will be circulating that on our social channels as well.

Any assistance with amplifying these messages on social channels would be
greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Dan

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Trump Says, 'Lookit Those Swedish Riots!' I Ask, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Razer
First off, the word "Immigrant", as it's being used to describe what's 
happening due to NATO's nasty wars is just a cutesy MISUSED term for 
"Displaced War Refugees"


The "Rioting problem" is the 'ghetto-ization' not the immigrants themselves.

If you were displaced and stuck in a slum after YOUR country was 
destroyed you'd be a little disenfranchised and angry too. Especially 
your children. Even economic immigrant children have issues. And yes... 
That's absolutely an apologia for people displaced by the wars the West 
creates to loot extractive resources.


But let's talk about "Economic Immigrants" not traumatized by war and 
left without any good psychological care or community support... which 
was left in the airstrike and artillery rubble of their homeland...


For instance where I live; an area of California with a large population 
of Mexicans. The parents are hard working and for the most part 
fastidiously law-abiding, but the children, if the family isn't careful, 
become gangstas and drug dealers.


But truth be told, for not-so-different sociological reasons, white 
middle class parents around here are, for the most part, hard working 
... but the NA and AA halls are full of their kids, who also 'pack up' 
occasionally to terrorize the local displaced workers. AKA the "Homeless".


Something Chicano kids, in my 40 years here have NEVER done.

From the Washington Post...

"In 2015, when the influx of refugees and migrants to Europe from 
Africa, the Middle East and Asia was highest, Sweden took in the 
greatest number per capita. By and large, integration has been a success 
story there, save for incidents such as Monday night's, which have taken 
place in highly segregated neighborhoods.


The newspaper Dagens Nyheter analyzed crime statistics between October 
2015 and January 2016 and came to the conclusion that refugees were 
responsible for only 1 percent of all incidents. That has done little to 
assuage the perceptions, even among Swedes, that foreigners are culpable 
for the crime that does happen. A Pew Research Center study conducted in 
early 2016 indicated that 46 percent of Swedes believed that “refugees 
in our country are more to blame for crime than other groups.”


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/21/riots-erupt-in-swedens-capital-just-days-after-trump-comments/

Ripe ground for Fascism. As with Norway where there's been a hard swing 
to the right as their petro-based economy flounders, it's been seen that 
Socialism of the Nationalist variety... The kind that stops at your 
national borders, easily becomes National Socialism when times get 
economically or socially stressful.


And so it is in 'Merica too. Which despite it's crapitialist 
underpinnings has required a so-called Welfare State (Nationalist 
Socialism) to remain... for some part of the population... mostly the 
white part... stable.


Rr


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Razer



On 02/21/2017 08:12 AM, Marina Brown wrote:


The composition of the board of directors says it all. This is not a
reliable source of information. It is a consistant source of propaganda.



For a while, for reasons I can't even imagine except perhaps he was 
misled, or the 'institute' policy did a complete about face, Pepe 
Escobar was on their author's list. He's not listed anymore.


Rr


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Marina Brown
On 02/20/2017 11:15 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
>>> The massive wave of Muslim crime, and especially rape, in Sweden, is
>>> glaringly and embarrassingly obvious, another area where Trump speaks
>>> the truth, and mainstream media reports fake news.
>>> ...
>>> Over the last thirteen hundred years, many peoples, nations, kingdoms,
>>> religions, and such, have tried to find a way to coexist with Islam.
>>> None have succeeded.  We will not be the first.  We shall convert, or we
>>> shall die, or we will kill.
> 
> 
> On 2/21/2017 1:54 PM, Marina Brown wrote:
>> Um dude, the crusades are over
> 
> The Crusades are not over until Islam agrees that they are over.
> 
> It takes two to make peace.  And what is happening in Sweden does not
> look much like peace.
> 
> .
> 
Um Trump is a deluded individual who really does not know the difference
between truth and his own fabrications. The Swedish attack did not happen.

It is sad when the racism of otherwise intelligent people allows them to
be manipulated by psychopathic leaders like Trump.



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Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Marina Brown
On 02/20/2017 11:32 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
> As far as I know, every single dispute between Trump and the mainstream
> media turns out this way.  The mainstream news lies, Trump tells the
> truth, and you guys burst a blood vessel because news you would prefer
> to conceal becomes generally known.
> 
> At least that is how it turned out with the Swedish rape story, and with
> every story that has come to my attention so far.
> 
> Maybe on some matter that I did not check out, or was not familiar with,
> Trump was lying.  But on every matter that I know about, Trump told the
> truth, and you lot could not handle the truth.
> 

Trump alway lies.

It is sad how quickly a libertarian like you became an authoritarian.



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Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Marina Brown
On 02/21/2017 05:04 AM, James A. Donald wrote:
> I am hugely entertained by the fact that the vast majority of white
> formerly Christian converts to Islam are single fertile age females, and
> that very few converts from Islam to Christianity are fertile age females.
> 
> This may well explain the voting patterns we see, where it is primarily
> women that vote to import the rapeugees, and well explain the fact that
> ads and articles seeking popular support for further imports of
> rapeugees show manly black men rather than cute children.
> 
> Revealed preference, female behavior, suggests that female emancipation
> was a shit test that white Christian males failed, and that conservative
> Muslim males passed.
> 
> I expect that if Islamic State was in the business of kidnapping white
> Christian women, chaining them up in shipping containers, and shipping
> them to Islamic state to be sold to the highest bidder, we would see a
> lot of white single chicks hanging around shipping containers with high
> hopes.
> 
> 
> 

There are guerilla groups fighting ISIS that are recruiting. Why not go
and fight ?

Heck if i was not so old and decrepid i would be over there now. It
hurts me to be left out of the fight.

I mean they would hate your racist attitudes but i am sure they would
take just about anyone willing to lob lead at ISIS.



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Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Marina Brown
On 02/21/2017 05:14 AM, James A. Donald wrote:
> On 2/21/2017 7:09 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
>> It's pretty offensive and illogical to
>> say that "something is this way simply because I am saying it is this
>> way and the people who don't agree with me are spreading fake news and
>> lying".  Sorry, the world, the life doesn't work this way.  :(
> 
> But that is exactly the reverse of what happens.  You are totally
> certain that Trump was wrong about Sweden, and need absolutely no
> evidence to conclude he was lying or deluded and the mainstream media is
> telling the truth.
> 
> When I and others present lots of evidence from multiple sources that
> Trump was telling the truth about Sweden, and the mainstream media were
> lying, you find that no evidence can possibly be good enough.
> 
> In your eyes, no evidence is required to prove Trump wrong, and no
> evidence can possibly be good enough to prove him right.
> 
> 

C'mon Trump and his crew just pulls things out of their asses to prove
whatever program they wants to do. Admitt it and you will be better for it.



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Re: NSA Contractors Join Privacy Shield

2017-02-21 Thread Razer



On 02/21/2017 05:33 AM, Rachael Tackett wrote:
The Privacy Shield framework is supposed to protect companies that 
transfer personal data from the EU to the US. The US promised the EU 
that it would provide data protection and put some limits on the US' 
mass surveillance. Some members of the EU parliament are calling for 
Privacy Shield to be suspended or at least re-negotiated. The US 
Department of Commerce allowed known NSA contractors to join the 
Privacy Shield program.

Full story http://piratetimes.net/nsa-contractors-join-privacy-shield/



Privacy Shield, if I remember correctly, is the NSA's industrial spying 
collaboration group. In return for not spying on the company's business 
the company is expected to GIVE the NSA their 'metadataz' in return for 
favors granted by FiveEyes.


If that sounds like to Fascism to you, you're right.

Funny thing is the alt-right wants Fascism in the US when the fact of 
the matter is the US has been a Fascist state for a long time, and the 
confusion of the alt-right about why that fascist state doesn't favor 
them is... priceless. As I said elsewhere the alt-right is more aptly 
referred to as 'alt-morons'. A... little... slow.


Rr


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Razer
Mashable quoting Rowling isn't the MSM reporting anything except 
Rowling's statement.


Here's what MASHABLE said.



A quick refresher: During a speech at a rally in Melbourne, Florida, 
held Saturday night, Trump sandwiched a vague reference to Sweden 
between references to recent terrorist attacks in Germany, France and 
Belgium.




Which IS accurate.

Listen Jim. I wrote, proofed and fact-checked MSM news copy for an 
'alt-news radio personality' for over a decade of my life. Handing off 
crap like that as "MSM reporting Trump said" is laughable, and in 
reality, a weak attempt at creating alt-facts that only an moron would 
accept as truth.


But that IS your alt-right's target market. Desperate Morons. And that's 
why the so-called 'alt-right' will fail. Morons are vicious midgets, and 
turn on their pwnrs the second they don't get what they want out of the 
deal b/c 'infantile', and the 'deal' is, in reality, not to their 
advantage at all... It can't happen too soon. It will be HILARIOUS to watch.


Rr



On 02/21/2017 12:18 AM, jim bell wrote:



*From:* Razer 
On 02/20/2017 03:04 PM, jim bell wrote:
> The biased lying MSM chose a specific classification, "terrorism", as
> if Trump had specifically said it.


>Show me an MSM headline, with link to the article, or any copy from an
MSM article and link, that claims Trump was specifically referring to
terrorism. They knew very well he was discussing a non-existent crime
wave and EVERYONE is still wondering what incident recently 'in Sweden'
he was referring to, as is the Swedish government.



Here's an excellent one, assuming you agree that Mashable.com is MSM

http://mashable.com/2017/02/19/donald-trump-sweden-jk-rowling/

[quote begins]
J.K. Rowling has the best response to Trump's non-existent Sweden attack.


  The internet can't get enough of President Donald Trump's "last
  night in Sweden" remarks, including, of course, J.K. Rowling.


  Never one to shy from a little fun
  
  at the expense of the U.S. president, the//author joined in on
  Twitter's response
  
  to Trump's confusing reference to a terrorist attack that didn't
  actually happen.


  SEE ALSO:Internet turns to @Sweden after Trump appears to invent
  terror attack
  


[end of quote]

×

Clearly, the MSM is repeatedly inventing the assertion that Trump was 
referring to "terrorism".


 Jim Bell




>Maybe it's this one: Attack in Sweden by neo-Nazis on a refugee centre

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/donald-trump-terror-attack-claim-sweden-neo-nazis-refugee-centre-florida-rally-a7588516.html

>The use of vague speech (allowing for plausible deniability) as a
propaganda tool is well known and all the bs bloggers created with the
'terrorism' claim THEY created is diverting attention away from the fact
that Trump was really making up a 'Swedish Refugee Crime Wave' claim
that's just as much bullshit, and allows creeps like you to point away
from the LIE he told, and idiots, alot like you, believe it.,.

The propaganda tool used here, Diversion.

Rr







Not My President Protesters Brutalized by Police

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
In b4 LARPers Razer & Cecilia.

--

Violent Anti-Trump Protesters Clash with Police
http:// 
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4244004/Violent-anti-Trump-protesters-clash-cops.html

Portland Police respond to protesters blocking traffic 1/25/2017
https:// youtube.com/watch?v=f0f3SnOiqcs

PORTLAND PROTEST!!! & Autistic Screeching
https:// youtube.com/watch?v=QGDrTeCmlVs
--

Thirteen people were arrested in Portland, Oregon, after a small group 
protesting President Donald Trump got smashed by the police.

The demonstrators, who did not have a permit, spilled out onto the streets 
outside the Federal Building and failed to heed the warnings of police in 
murder gear.

The protest was just one of several held across the country as part of the 'not 
my Presidents' Day' rallies for Trump.

Planned marches took place in New York, Los Angeles, Washington DC, Chicago, 
and Salt Lake City to mark President's Day.

Protesters even greeted the president on the route from his Mar-a-Lago home to 
Palm Beach Airport where he boarded Air Force One to return to Washington DC in 
the afternoon.

The planned protest, held an hour later with permitted street closures, 
occurred without problems with the police. Police deployed pepper spray and 
'less-than-lethal munitions' in the earlier clash with protests

https:// archive.is/gMiNh

SWEDEN RIOT: Police forced to shoot at protestors as violence erupts

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
How about this advanced faggotry.

- - - - -

Numerous cars were set on fire in RINKEBY, STOCKHOLM, Warning shots were fired.
https:// youtube.com/watch?v=EgUIPtetD50

Irony: Migrant Riots in Sweden day after 'Outrage' over Trump Comment.
http:// macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/31339/53/

It would appear the fakestream media (along with several celebrities and 
Swedish politicians) is going to be apologizing to US President Trump once 
again. As a reminder, Trump this weekend mentioned Sweden has turned into a 
security mess due to their out of control muslim migration.

Having spent the entire news cycle trying to ignore the massive immigrant 
crisis facing Sweden, and pin the ignorant tail on Trump, the biggest Swedish 
daily newspapers, Dagbladet and Expressen report riots breaking out in the 
highly immigrant concentrated Stockholm borough of Rinkeby, with police firing 
warning shots as 100s of young muslim migrants threw stones and burned cars.

During the evening hundreds of people gathered in the center of Rinkeby, well 
known for its high concentration of immigrants and people with immigrant 
ancestry.

The Swedish leftists politicians who were "outraged" by Trump's statement, 
claimed Sweden had no issues with migrants and offered their usual liberal 
lectures, but are now nowhere to be found, their twitter accounts on fire over 
the weekend, are now silent.

In June 2010, Rinkeby was the scene of riots and attacks against the local 
police station and Rinkeby is the region in which the '60 Minutes' crew were 
attacked in 2016.

The problems Sweden faces integrating large numbers of Muslim immigrants is a 
subject on which Nordstjernan columnist Ulf Nilson has written many times. His 
warnings of increasing radicalization among Sweden’s Muslims – warnings he 
started to broadcast a decade ago – now seem eerily prophetic in light of an 
Associated Press investigation that found Stockholm to be a breeding ground for 
jihadists among Swedish Somalis.

According to the AP report, which first ran Jan. 24, an al-Qaida-linked group 
is busy recruiting anti-government fighters among Somali youths living in 
Rinkeby. A suburb of Stockholm, Rinkeby has earned the nickname of “Little 
Mogadishu” because of the number of Somalis living there. Rinkeby is also the 
center of the recruiting efforts of al-Shabab, a group with ties to al-Qaida.

#Sweden #Rinkeby

https:// archive.fo/NJAZg

Re: SS-GB: why the renewed obsession with alternative Nazi histories?

2017-02-21 Thread Razer
Just vamping on the subject line, because the real version of Nazi 
history would dissuade too many Americans from 'alt-right' activities. 
All in all a stupid question not worth time spent in discussion.


Rr


On 02/20/2017 10:47 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

SS-GB: why the renewed obsession with alternative Nazi histories?

http://theconversation.com/ss-gb-why-the-renewed-obsession-with-alternative-nazi-histories-73157

"The Nazis are, once again, a subject of considerable cultural 
obsession. From The Man in the High Castle to the BBC's new adaptation 
of SS-GB, counterfactual Nazi nightmares are very much in vogue. This 
has happened once before, points out Sam Edwards – such alternative 
histories also proliferated in the 1960s. So what's behind their return?"




Sweden says YES !

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
> juan juan.g71 at gmail.com
> Mon Feb 20 20:54:36 PST 2017
>
> Swedish law has an extremely expansive definition of what qualifies as rape 
> under the law

In that they define "incapable of giving consent" as rape. But that's just 
another night out on the town for you, huh ?

--

The Lügenpresse is chimping out about President Trump mentioning the situation 
in Sweden during his speech the other night.

They are implying that he stated there was a terrorist attack in Sweden; he 
didn't.

He was referring to the hell-on-earth it has become.

Fire up the twatter accounts RIGHT THIS SECOND and drop your dankest Sweden 
infographics and darkest Swedish memes.

It's time to unleash the ultimate red pilling on the dangers of mass 
immigration and wake the sleeping masses.

Do not let this golden opportunity slip away ! DO IT NOW FAGGOTS !

--

https:// wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden

https:// wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics#Sweden

https:// wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden

https:// 
unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/CTS_Sexual_violence.xls

https:// 
unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/Crime-statistics/International_Statistics_on_Crime_and_Justice.pdf

https:// gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

https:// 
bra.se/download/18.22a7170813a0d141d2180007794/1371914741026/2012_13_Brottsutvecklingen_i_Sverige_2008_2011.pdf

--

https:// youtube.com/watch?v=3KSJY0c8QWw

http:// 
thisisengland.org.uk/stunning-video-african-family-shown-how-to-use-toilet-in-their-new-flat-as-homeless-veteran-freezes-to-death-in-street/

http:// 
speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.3723/swedish-court-approves-of-child-marriage.html

http:// 
breitbart.com/london/2016/01/15/15-year-old-boy-was-stabbed-to-death-by-migrant-because-he-was-protecting-young-girl-from-sex-assault/

https:// 
thesun.co.uk/news/2709224/two-afghan-migrants-revealed-as-those-arrested-over-horrific-three-hour-rape-streamed-on-facebook-live-in-sweden/

https:// 
thesun.co.uk/news/2342713/boy-15-gang-raped-hour-knife-five-afghan-migrants-swedish-forest/

http:// 
independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/swedish-police-are-not-allowed-to-give-descriptions-of-alleged-criminals-so-as-not-to-sound-racist-a6810311.html

--

"Both twitter and facebook are censoring people bigtime."

"The media is pretending that nothing happened in sweden and calling him crazy."

"It's not even made up. A syrian 'refugee' got convicted of leading a death 
squad of 8 syrians. He got tried for war crimes."

"There's always YES happening in Sweden. Their media doesn't even report all 
the YES that is occurring."

"It was probably a deliberate phrasing to bait the press, stoke curiosity 
encouraging others to look into it & subsequently redpill them about the 
hell-on-earth Islam has created with complicit governments across Europe."

"Anything other than total silence about the situation in Sweden in poison for 
their narrative."

"tfw Trump deliberately misspeaks to give his supporters a chance to redpill 
people on Muslims."

--

Overall, North and South America be the most rapey. It may be a coincidence 
that Mexico is right in the middle. Juan would know more.

Peep da huge growth rate and per capita measurements of "rape" in Sweden. Graph 
that shit.

#SwedenIncident

NSA Contractors Join Privacy Shield

2017-02-21 Thread Rachael Tackett
The Privacy Shield framework is supposed to protect companies that transfer personal data from the EU to the US. The US promised the EU that it would provide data protection and put some limits on the US' mass surveillance. Some members of the EU parliament are calling for Privacy Shield to be suspended or at least re-negotiated. The US Department of Commerce allowed known NSA contractors to join the Privacy Shield program. 

 

Full story http://piratetimes.net/nsa-contractors-join-privacy-shield/


SS-GB: why the renewed obsession with alternative Nazi histories?

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
> Cecilia Tanaka cecilia.tanaka at gmail.com
> Mon Feb 20 22:47:06 PST 2017
>
> why the renewed obsession with alternative Nazi histories?

Lol. Wut.

Anime has been full of degenerate alt-nazi-loli shit for like 20yrs. Where the 
fug have you been ?

> [calling people] Nazi

That's what the Bolsheviks did. People on this list will get purged. A large 
portion of this list lives in the US. You are helping to sew their future.

What kind of security matters

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
> Marina Brown catskillmarina at gmail.com
> Sat Feb 18 21:56:50 PST 2017
>
> the YPG

American Anarchists Join YPG in Syria Fighting ISIS, Islamic State:
http:// 
rollingstone.com/politics/features/american-anarchists-ypg-kurdish-militia-syria-isis-islamic-state-w466069

>> He had no military experience before joining the YPG.""
>> He lived in San Francisco, where he arranged flowers for a living.""
>> He was a self-described lowlife punk and petty criminal with a heroin 
>> habit.""
>> He started reading Marx and Lenin seriously in rehab.""

Sounds about right. You should join !

> example of the worst security possible.

Pedo opsec.

[graffiti] Lie Lie Land

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
> Cecilia Tanaka cecilia.tanaka at gmail.com
> Fri Feb 17 22:13:27 PST 2017
>
> would be a good graffiti to Trump's Wall

Ov course a lawyer would want to ugly a wall with a lazy black cutout banksy 
wannabe copycat.

No original thot, only that which already exists.

Your country is full of real beautiful graffiti, please post that shit next 
time.

> Lie Lie Land

Failed with the joke, too. La La Land is Los Angeles, California. Mr. Drumpf is 
from the Great State of New York !

[RUS] [WAR] Party like it's 1941 - cypherpunks, NSA, CIA, eat your heart out :)

2017-02-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Ok, ok, it's not that much fun, but anyway, may be worth a chuckle for
those addicted to technology. I guess one could call this

Enjoy :)



American spies missed Crimea because Russians operated like in 1941
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/02/american-spies-missed-crimea-because.html
"
Several times a year 'Russian hackers' are arrested around the world, it
is a kind of recruiting for Pentagon or NSA.
"


What kind of security matters

2017-02-21 Thread Anti Fag
> James A. Donald jamesd at echeque.com
> Thu Feb 16 16:47:15 PST 2017
>
> a security mechanism for the masses

Do you mean centralized and controlled, like yidcoin grarpamp shills ?

A transaction fee is not equal to withdrawl fee and xe knows it.

Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald

On 2/21/2017 7:09 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:

It's pretty offensive and illogical to
say that "something is this way simply because I am saying it is this
way and the people who don't agree with me are spreading fake news and
lying".  Sorry, the world, the life doesn't work this way.  :(


But that is exactly the reverse of what happens.  You are totally 
certain that Trump was wrong about Sweden, and need absolutely no 
evidence to conclude he was lying or deluded and the mainstream media is 
telling the truth.


When I and others present lots of evidence from multiple sources that 
Trump was telling the truth about Sweden, and the mainstream media were 
lying, you find that no evidence can possibly be good enough.


In your eyes, no evidence is required to prove Trump wrong, and no 
evidence can possibly be good enough to prove him right.




Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald

On 2/21/2017 3:56 PM, juan wrote:

But didn't you just say that the graph "starts off at normal
northern European levels," ?

Was that 'normal' level of rape due to white joo-kkkristian
rapists?


Sweden, infamously, has an "expansive" definition of rape.  But until 
recently good old fashioned 
stranger-grabs-a-girl-in-the-street-and-breaks-her-face rape was rare.


Which may well be why the Swedish women voted to import the rapeugees. 
They found Swedish men insufficiently manly and hungered for a bit of 
the rough stuff.




Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread Cecilia Tanaka
On Mon, Feb 20, 2017, at 5:33 PM, jim bell  wrote:

>
> *From:* Cecilia Tanaka 
>
> >Jim, I respect you, but I don't agree with 80% of your opinions, sorry.
> Maybe Sweden government, the whole 'Internets', all the media and I have
> misunderstood your >President, but I sincerely believe he should study more
> and watch less TV.  It would be much better for him and the rest of the
> world.
>
> I hope you are using that "your President" term in the most generic sense,
> as in 'Jim Bell is American, so Trump is his president".
>

​Yes, I said "your President" because the President of your country is
Trump.  In my case, for example, I did't want it, but unfortunately Temer
is "my President" because is the Brazil's actual President, so their bad
and good decisions will be effective in my life and the whole country.
When I say "my President is f*cking my country", it doesn't mean he is mine
or that I am giving support to his acts.  Sorry, I should be clearer.

Someone asked me why I said I respect you.  I didn't said it in the sense
of "Oh, Jim is a human being and I need to respect all lives".  I was
talking about your past, Jim.  You fighted and protested for your beliefs
and it is a thing I respect a lot.  Nowadays, your convictions are very
different from mine in several aspects, but when you complain about a
subject, I know you really believe you are right.  You usually have
coherence.  I detest when someone is hypocrite and more false than fake
news or just want to hurt and annoy people.

Zzzz, for example, oscillates more than all my bipolar friends together,
and just wants to grant benefits at any cost because has no ethics and
moral.  Few months ago, he was whining all the days about how the USA were
the most disgusting and evil country in the whole world, all citizens
included, obviously.  Now, he licks Trump orange balls in public all the
days, always saying how amazing are the USA and their politicians.  Few
months ago, he was always saying Razer was the "guardian of this list", a
"great soul", a "huge heart", a "loyal and superior human being", "the
bastion of truth", and giving him a lot of strange titles all the days.  I
swear I was always thinking "Oh, the jerk had any success with me, so is
trying to flirt and have sex with Razer.  Needy weirdo, hahaha!!".  Now he
offends Razer all the weeks.  Maybe he is feeling rejected.  "No sex with
Ceci, no sex with Razer, Putin never answered to my love letters...  Let's
try Trump!  He loves bizarre sex and I can show him how kangoroos make wild
sex!"

Now he likes to offend Mirimir too, but few months ago, this hypocrite was
always sending off-list messages to Mirimir and copying me.  I never
understood why the heck he was copying me in his private conversations.  I
think he was trying to make me feel "jealous"  - hahaha!! - because he was
openly flirting with Mirimir in his messages, almost licking the guy after
discovering his nick had Russian origins.  It was pretty embarrasing all
the times.  :P

Well, after several months of contradictions, there are lots of reasons to
think his opinions don't have any credibility or value.  My theory about
his mental absence of sanity is he is probably mixing alcohol  (Please,
don't drive drunk, selfish creature!  You are not important to anyone, but
drunk drivers like you can kill good people!), his bizarre foods  (he sent
me some creepy recipes, trying to impress me and wrote millions of times
that I should try his salad sauce, even after being ignored, with no
answers of mine in private, for several weeks, ugh!  Can you understand why
I am always saying he is slow?),  and also very strong drugs, because now
he thinks the USA are more magical than pink unicorns dancing on the
rainbows...  :P

Another person here that I can't understand is Donald.  He is zillions of
times more intelligent than Zzzz, but is cruel and likes to hurt and
humiliate people.  He can say something he knows it is *not* true only to
hurt, provoke and offend people, to have fun, a perverse kind of pleasure.
 :(

I can't say you are like them, Jim.  In all my time on CP list, you were
always coherent.  I don't agree with 80% (or even more) of your opinions,
but you are defending your beliefs, not just disturbing the list for
spreading hate and intolerance.  You, Ju@n and Razer are heard-headed guys,
but I respect you all.  And when Ju@n and Razer are not kicking me, they
are pretty fun and interesting.  I don't agree with them in a lot of
subjects too, but both sincerely like to teach people.  In some moments, J
wanted to kill me, but even when he was very very angry with me, he always
answered to my doubts about all kind of things  (bad words, grammar,
Argentine's food, interesting bibliography, good sci-fi movies, religion,
etc).  Ju@n and Razer have a good heart, even wanting my death in some
moments, hihi...  ;)

I don't think you are a bad person, Jim, but I can't agree with your point
of 

Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald

"James A. Donald"  wrote:

You don't like statistics:  OK:


On 2/21/2017 6:39 PM, juan wrote:

is that directed at me?  I know how to read statistics.


Liar



Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread juan
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 17:45:29 +1000
"James A. Donald"  wrote:

> You don't like statistics:  OK:

is that directed at me?  I know how to read statistics. Of
course you don't like that. 

Now, if you are so kind, provide the source for the pic you
attached. If you don't, then it may be safe to assume it's fake.


Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread jim bell


 From: Razer 
On 02/20/2017 03:04 PM, jim bell wrote:
> The biased lying MSM chose a specific classification, "terrorism", as 
> if Trump had specifically said it.

>Show me an MSM headline, with link to the article, or any copy from an 
MSM article and link, that claims Trump was specifically referring to 
terrorism. They knew very well he was discussing a non-existent crime 
wave and EVERYONE is still wondering what incident recently 'in Sweden' 
he was referring to, as is the Swedish government.


Here's an excellent one, assuming you agree that Mashable.com is MSM
http://mashable.com/2017/02/19/donald-trump-sweden-jk-rowling/

[quote begins]J.K. Rowling has the best response to Trump's non-existent Sweden 
attack.

The internet can't get enough of President Donald Trump's "last night in 
Sweden" remarks, including, of course, J.K. Rowling.

Never one to shy from a little fun at the expense of the U.S. president, the 
author joined in on Twitter's response to Trump's confusing reference to a 
terrorist attack that didn't actually happen.

SEE ALSO: Internet turns to @Sweden after Trump appears to invent terror attack

[end of quote]×   
Clearly, the MSM is repeatedly inventing the assertion that Trump was referring 
to "terrorism".
           Jim Bell



>Maybe it's this one: Attack in Sweden by neo-Nazis on a refugee centre

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/donald-trump-terror-attack-claim-sweden-neo-nazis-refugee-centre-florida-rally-a7588516.html

>The use of vague speech (allowing for plausible deniability) as a 
propaganda tool is well known and all the bs bloggers created with the 
'terrorism' claim THEY created is diverting attention away from the fact 
that Trump was really making up a 'Swedish Refugee Crime Wave' claim 
that's just as much bullshit, and allows creeps like you to point away 
from the LIE he told, and idiots, alot like you, believe it.,.

The propaganda tool used here, Diversion.

Rr


   

Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald



As far as I know, every single dispute between Trump and the mainstream media 
turns out this way.


On 2/21/2017 5:13 PM, John Newman wrote:

You mean Trump spouts a line of utter nonsense that is quickly denounced? 
Pretty much.



Denounced indeed - but the evidence that Trump spoke the truth and the 
media lied and continued to lie just piles up, and up, and up.


As in the case of events in Sweden, so too in every other case where I 
am familiar with the facts.





Re: Trump Says, 'Look What's Happening In Sweden.' Sweden Asks, 'Wait, What?'

2017-02-21 Thread James A. Donald
The Sweden Democrats, and the people who vote for them, know what is 
happening in Sweden.


And they say Trump is right.

And the way the wind blows, they will be in government come the next 
Swedish election, or the one after that.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/765756/Moderate-Party-olive-branch-Eurosceptics-rise-right-Sweden-Democrats
	AS SWEDEN faces an existential crisis with the police in turmoil amid a 
surge in violent crime across the nation, the once liberal country could 
see its left-wing government ousted from power.


And here is a Swedish prog, bemoaning Sweden being insufficently 
generous to Muslims, thereby preventing them from magically becoming 
good Swedish taxpayers:

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/02/trump-right-swedens-refugee-policy-led-problems-never-thought-possible/
	The awful truth is that Trump was right to say they are dealing with 
problems that they never imagined. Who, for example, would have thought 
Sweden would be Europe’s greatest exporter of jihadis?


He thinks that if you pour more money over the heads of Muslims they 
will not become jihadis.