[r...@gnu.org: Re: list of people censored on lists.debian.org]
- Forwarded message from Richard Stallman - From: Richard Stallman To: Zenaan Harkness Cc: dan...@pocock.pro, cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org, wayward4...@gmail.com, che...@gmail.com, d...@geer.org, l...@lwn.net Reply-To: r...@gnu.org Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 23:07:17 -0400 Subject: Re: list of people censored on lists.debian.org [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > This is depressing to see - from Linus Torvalds and the Linux > Foundation, to Git in recent times, to Richard Stallman (RMS), > founder of the Free Software Foundation (USA) being "resigned" by > the so-called "FSF community" I resigned from the FSF board and management to spare the FSF from the damage that the mob that was attacking me were likely to do. Please do not accuse the FSF of treating me badly. That is untrue and unjust. -- Dr Richard Stallman Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) - End forwarded message -
Multiple Vulnerabilities (systemd, thunderbird, sudo, etc.)
https://security.gentoo.org/glsa/202003-10 (thunderbird) https://security.gentoo.org/glsa/202003-12 (sudo) https://security.gentoo.org/glsa/202003-20 (systemd) https://security.gentoo.org/glsa/202003-16 (SQLite) https://security.gentoo.org/glsa/202003-18 (Libvirt)
A Coventry Moment
A Coventry Moment There is a story that Winston Churchill let Coventry burn under German bombing in order to protect the secret that the Nazi Enigma codes had been broken. He made a hard decision to spend lives now, in order to promote the greater good later. On TV recently we have seen Boris Johnston looking Churchillian, having apparently made a similar sort of decision about the coronavirus epidemic - spending 400,000 British lives now in order to gain some future advantage. The problem is that we don't know what that advantage is. It all seems a bit nebulous. - At the start of the epidemic, when we thought that it would prove impossible to stop the infection, the policy of delay made some sense - spread the peak to decrease maximum hospital load and thereby save lives. That 400,000 or so (a million in real numbers) people would die was unfortunate, but inevitable. There was nothing we could do about it. But then the Chinese stopped their epidemic, showing that there was no need for 400,000 people to die, and everything changed. Except the policy. - Herd immunity is just what happens if you don't do anything to stop any disease which leaves the patient immune after it has run its course. It is at best a distraction. One possible line of Government thinking is that after we implement strong containment we would then have a still-vulnerable population, giving rise to the fear that we might have to continue strict measures indefinitely. Possible, but what measures? Strict universal isolation is almost certainly not necessary once the disease is under control, though strict attention to detail will still be necessary. Proper control of entry to the country with quarantine where appropriate is the major continuing need; but other countries will be doing something similar, and international travel will not be easy for years anyway. Better social distancing - the elbow or foot tap, enlarging personal space, avoiding contact where possible; protective measures like handwashing and handrub, masks and respirators, perhaps gloves and goggles; widespread testing and diligent contact tracing once the epidemic is under control (with short-term but mandatory isolation/quarantine for those testing positive) are probably all that is needed. But we can follow the Chinese example as they relax controls, and limit measures here to those which are necessary and which work. Medium term, if people get "isolation fatigue", and the disease spreads? We would still be better off if we implement strict confinement now. We would have had time to make a billion masks, time to prepare a hundred million tests, time to open hospital beds, time to get the needed equipment - and most of all time to research the disease. For instance, how much would closing schools help? To answer that we need to know whether and to what extent children get the disease in a very mild form and pass it on, or do they just not get it at all - and we do not know the answer to that question. How long does the virus stay active on various surfaces? We don't know. What are the most important secondary and minor routes of infection? We don't know. Why are older people more likely to die, and can anything be done to prevent this? We don't know. How do we immunise the population? We don't know. How do we cure the disease? We don't know. But we do know how to stop it. - Mr Johnston is not Winston Churchill. Churchill himself never faced the "Coventry Dilemma", that was just one of many similar teaching stories used to emphasise the need for secrecy at Bletchley Park. It wasn't real. Many hard life-and-death balancing decisions were made by Churchill during the war, but the "Coventry Dilemma" was not one of them. As for COVID-19, there is no sacrifice here to be made for the greater good. Any sacrifice of lives would just be an unconscionable waste, somewhere between manslaughter with reckless disregard for life and pointless mass murder. There is no greater good to be had. We can kill the disease. We do not need to kill the population, or 400,000 or a million of it. The Chinese have effectively killed the disease in China. Pretty soon they will be thinking about quarantining people entering the country, if they aren't already. That is the kind of turnaround we should be trying for. - As an aside, the real hard decision would not have been to focus efforts on amelioration at the cost of many lives, for some greater eventual good; but instead to implement strong confinement on ethical grounds, even if we thought it couldn't work. But we know strong containment can work. It has been done. It worked. There is no obvious downside to doing it. There is no hard decision to make. There is no Coventry Moment. There never has been. Peter Fairbrother
Chelsea Manning Supporters Raise A Quarter Million Dollars In Two Days
YewBETCHA! "In the likely event that you need some news to give you a bit of faith in humanity today, you should know that supporters of whistleblower Chelsea Manning have raised over a quarter million dollars to pay the cruel, draconian fine that was heaped upon her for her principled stand against testifying at corrupt secret grand jury proceedings. In just two days after Manning was released from prison, more than six thousand donors banded together to pay off the $258,000 fine assigned at a thousand dollars a day by a federal judge on top of imprisonment to coerce her to testify. Fundraising was so enthusiastic that it had overshot the goal and reached $267,002 before the GoFundMe was closed. Those of us who support Manning have been looking at this more as a fine on us than on her, because of course we were never going to let a heroic whistleblower spend the rest of her life under crushing debt. The fact that the money came together so quickly and easily, though, says a lot about the beauty of humans in my opinion." https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/chelsea-manning-supporters-raise-a-quarter-million-dollars-in-two-days-e45a7d049380 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: It's an Ill Wind
On 15/03/2020 02:46, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH wrote: The point of government is to prevent crime, not tragedy. There I must disagree. The point of government is precisely to prevent tragedy. As in protection against invasion by foreign hordes, or for that matter viruses. Peter Fairbrother
Re: It's an Ill Wind
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 8:06 PM Peter Fairbrother wrote: > > On 14/03/2020 23:28, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 7:29 AM Peter Fairbrother wrote: > >> > >> 2- It's an Ill Wind > >> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XRc389TvG8 > >> > >> So now we know: first, that the UK government is actually deliberately > >> trying to infect over 40 million UK citizens, and in doing so expecting, > >> on their figures, 400,000 deaths. > > > > Uh, no, they're only not quarantining or taking other measures. That > > is not the same as "trying to infect" > > To my mind it is; "Trying to" is to deliberately do something in order> to > obtain a desired effect. If the "something" happens to be "nothing", > it doesn't change that IMO. The limits of an impoverished mind, I suppose, incapable of differentiating between action and inaction. > Remember those philosophy problems with a train and someone on the track > and a set of points? Yes, a classical false dilemma. > Well to my mind one way is clear and the other way has a million bodies > on it, and just because the points are presently set to the million > bodies doesn't mean that deliberately choosing not to change the points > avoids being responsible for the outcome. > > Especially when changing the points is your responsibility. Ever hear the phrase "Not my monkey, not my circus"? It applies here, or at least it should. The point of government is to prevent crime, not tragedy. > > Some of your analysis is OK, but this statement is false. I don't hear > > of government agents with spray bottles of viral concoctins chasing > > down their subjects on the streets, or invading their homes, in order > > to infect them. > > But there's more, they won't let others change the points: head teachers > want to close schools, but the government is planning to send them to > jail if they do. > > To my mind that pretty much IS the equivalent of chasing down their > subjects on the streets with spray bottles of viral concoctions. Too much government, not enough freedom. Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy applies. > Maybe I took too much poetic license. But I don't think so. And I do think so. Kurt
Re: It's an Ill Wind
On 14/03/2020 23:28, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 7:29 AM Peter Fairbrother wrote: 2- It's an Ill Wind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XRc389TvG8 So now we know: first, that the UK government is actually deliberately trying to infect over 40 million UK citizens, and in doing so expecting, on their figures, 400,000 deaths. Uh, no, they're only not quarantining or taking other measures. That is not the same as "trying to infect" To my mind it is; "Trying to" is to deliberately do something in order to obtain a desired effect. If the "something" happens to be "nothing", it doesn't change that IMO. Remember those philosophy problems with a train and someone on the track and a set of points? Well to my mind one way is clear and the other way has a million bodies on it, and just because the points are presently set to the million bodies doesn't mean that deliberately choosing not to change the points avoids being responsible for the outcome. Especially when changing the points is your responsibility. Some of your analysis is OK, but this statement is false. I don't hear of government agents with spray bottles of viral concoctins chasing down their subjects on the streets, or invading their homes, in order to infect them. But there's more, they won't let others change the points: head teachers want to close schools, but the government is planning to send them to jail if they do. To my mind that pretty much IS the equivalent of chasing down their subjects on the streets with spray bottles of viral concoctions. Maybe I took too much poetic license. But I don't think so. Peter Fairbrother
Re: list of people censored on lists.debian.org
https://lwn.net/Articles/814953/ Posted Mar 15, 2020 1:54 UTC (Sun) by zenaan (subscriber, #3778) [Link] >> "Snowflakes" want momma to make all the bad words disappear. > Just like you crying here, begging for CoCs to disappear? What a broflake. Not what I said, but meh... So is it fair to assume then that you agree with all the resignations (RMS), knee-bending (Torvalds), and turmoil (openSUSE and many others)? It is of course your right to agree with such treatment of various founders, as we have witnessed a fair bit of in recent times. Good lessons for future founders (to enshrine their "broflake" power CoCs before the snowflakes have a chance to usurp power and damage the founders). Long term, I believe this is a functional parting of the ways between humans with different preferred ways of being in this world. The CoC for those of robust temperament, is a different CoC to those of snowflake temperament. Snowflakes are entitled to their CoC, "broflakes" and those who prefer more freedom in their communication environment, are entitled to their CoC - although I have yet to see a broflake CoC in writing :) In the mean time we continue in this time of turmoil where unspoken expectations of some, in some cases many, have begun to be put first into CoCs and then into force, and this clash of expectations and turmoil is made public. Over, and over, again. I have a sneaking suspicion that the "broflakes", those of robust emotional temperament, though evidently a minority, are inherently pioneers, willing and able to blaze new trails which few others see or would dare, until the land is cleared and first settlements built. Most are settlers or homies. 'Tis the way of things. On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 01:18:17AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Handling attacks on a community > https://lwn.net/Articles/814916/ > > Posted Mar 14, 2020 14:15 UTC (Sat) by zenaan (subscriber, #3778) [Link] > Codes of Conduct (CoC) have become expected, imposed and as we see, enforced. > > Many folks today appear to be what is colloquially termed "snowflakes" - so > emotionally fragile that even giving a (any, whatsoever) trigger warning, is > considered itself "triggering" and therefore subject to CoC censorship, etc., > see e.g. https://reason.com/2018/07/29/triggered-by-trigger-warnings/ > > This is depressing to see - from Linus Torvalds and the Linux Foundation, to > Git in recent times, to Richard Stallman (RMS), founder of the Free Software > Foundation (USA) being "resigned" by the so-called "FSF community", and of > course Debian and most other FLOSS "communities". > > It is true - holding strictly to certain principles such as freedom of speech > (modulo "that which is not actually unlawful"), is not easy, likely not > possible, for a "community" that wants to be maximally inclusive of humans > with fragile egos and/or fragile emotional natures). > > So as humans we are different, with different needs and different wants. > "Snowflakes" want momma to make all the bad words disappear. Staunch free > speech upholders want rigorous and robust discussions, with the right to, at > least sometimes, offend the "wilting flower" types. > > These two types of communities are to some degree not compatible. > > Either bend the knee as Linus Torvalds has done, and to some extent RMS, or > advocate for your preferred environment, or create your preferred environment > - but to attack a so called "community" which has, by the authority of those > in authority in that community, expelled you from that community, is probably > a fruitless and counter productive exercise. > > Embrace your truth, and find others of like spirit/temperament, and create > that which you are moved to create. > > > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:18:15AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > > > your ongoing battle appears to be staunch, humorous, challenging, > > depressing, and uplifting all at the same time. We feel for ya. > > > > I'm wondering if you ever subscribed to the cypherpunks mailing list last > > year? It's a small community, but passionate, and at least so far as the > > law allows, uncensored. > > > > If it floats yer boat, perhaps join the rest of us outcast n.ggers at the > > cypherpunks corral ;) > > > > At the moment no easy answers have presented themselves, in respect of an > > existing "community" such as Debian, except to rebuild a worthy community > > from scratch, with vigilant anti-censorship at its foundation, and in the > > face of what's happened to Linus, RMS and ESR in the last 12 months, > > "founders right to be and make an ass of him or herself" I guess :D (since > > of course, that which makes an ass of onesself, is of course in the eye of > > the snowflake, e.g. > > https://babylonbee.com/news/massive-plank-appears-in-adam-schiffs-eye-as-he-accuses-donald-trump-of-lying). > > > > In any case, I've no doubt many are
The Fates of American Presidents Who Challenged the Deep State
https://apjjf.org/2014/12/43/Peter-Dale-Scott/4206.html I believe that a significant shift in the relationship between public and deep state power occurred in the 1960s and 1970s, culminating in the Reagan Revolution of 1980. In this period five presidents sought to curtail the powers of the deep state. And as we shall see, the political careers of all five—Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford and Carter—were cut off in ways that were unusual. One president, Kennedy, was assassinated. Another, Nixon, was forced to resign. To some extent the interplay of these two forms of power and political organization is found in all societies. The two were defined by Hannah Arendt in the 1960s as “persuasion through arguments” versus “coercion by force.” Arendt, following Thucydides, traced these to the common Greek way of handling domestic affairs, which was persuasion (πείθειν) as well as the common way of handling foreign affairs, which was force and violence (βία)." The two represent not just different techniques of government but different cultures and mindsets, in fundamental tension with each other. This tension increases, and predictably tips toward violence, if a well-organized open community expands beyond its own borders and is increasingly occupied with the business of supervising an empire. It is repeatedly the case that progressive societies (like America) expand. As their influence expands, their democratic institutions, based at bottom upon persuasive power among equals, are supplemented by new, often secret, institutions of top-down violent power for the control of alien populations abroad, often speaking different and unfamiliar languages. The more the society expands, the more these institutions of violent power encroach upon and supplant the original democracy.
#FreeHarvey - Re: Neo-Nazi White Knights Go All in on Defending the Honor of Women Who had Sex with Harvey Weinstein - Re: TDS: World's #1 Weinstein Supporter
On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 10:57:40AM +1100, Zig the N.g wrote: > It's a sad world: > > Neo-Nazi White Knights Go All in on Defending the Honor of Women Who had > Sex with Harvey Weinstein > > http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/neo-nazi-white-knights-go-all-in-on-defending-the-honor-of-women-who-had-sex-with-harvey-weinstein/ > > [you just KNOW you don't want to see that alabaster thigh with the rose > tattoo] > > > Fortunately, TDS is here to set the teenyboppers straight! Gee thanks, Z.g - that's a really hard hitting piece on consent. It's too long to quote in general, but the myths put forward by the prosecution against Harvey Weinstein, and which are resoundingly debunked by the Amblin Memer, are as follows: 1. Harvey Weinstein is a serial rapist. 2. The Weinstein verdict does not set any precedent because it is the same as any other rape case. 3. People who say that this set a new precedent don’t explain what it is. 4. American women in their 20s who live in Hollywood and are attempting to get into the film industry are fragile and innocent, and don’t know that men want to have sex with them. 5. An innocent woman in her 20s who lives in Hollywood and is an aspiring actress doesn’t know that when she’s invited up to Harvey Weinstein’s hotel room and he answers the door in a bathrobe that he might try to do something sexual. They are too innocent to imagine that. 6. Women are victims of “power dynamics.” A woman who is in a hotel room with Harvey Weinstein and is shocked to find that Harvey Weinstein, after inviting her to his hotel room and answering the door in a bathrobe, has become sexually aggressive with her, can’t scream out because she is too shocked and terrified. Plus she’s worried about her career. 7. Fuck you. 8. People who do not believe in consent theory and power dynamics, and various other modern feminist concepts regarding men and sex, are ugly, and they don’t want Harvey Weinstein to go to jail because he is also ugly like them. 9. It is stupid to believe that legal cases set legal precedent. The justice system is already corrupt so it doesn’t matter. People shouldn’t worry about the precedent because the justice system favors people like Weinstein. 10. Women who had sex with Harvey Weinstein in exchange for career advancement are not whores. 11. Women who have sex for money in pornography are not whores. 12. Men who call women who have sex for money whores are bad people. 13. Men who do not support feminist theories of gender dynamics have low self-esteem because they are pathetic. 14. Women should be involved in careers. 15. If you don’t believe white women are competent and should be in the workplace, then you are against white people, because half of white people are women, and if you’re against women in the workplace you’re against women. 16. If you are against women in the workplace, you are a loser. (Z.g, you've dropped your game a little by not including the above list in your OP, but for a sock puppet you're not doing too bad...) Literally, #FreeHarvey
Neo-Nazi White Knights Go All in on Defending the Honor of Women Who had Sex with Harvey Weinstein - Re: TDS: World's #1 Weinstein Supporter - #FreeHarvey
It's a sad world: Neo-Nazi White Knights Go All in on Defending the Honor of Women Who had Sex with Harvey Weinstein http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/neo-nazi-white-knights-go-all-in-on-defending-the-honor-of-women-who-had-sex-with-harvey-weinstein/ [you just KNOW you don't want to see that alabaster thigh with the rose tattoo] Fortunately, TDS is here to set the teenyboppers straight! On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 06:01:35PM +1100, Zig the N.g wrote: > The Daily Stormer is now the world's #1 Harvey Weinstein supporter, calling > for the ex Hollywood mogul to be freed. > > “A New Day” – Following Weinstein Lynching, Jew Lawyers Hail Coming Mass > Rape Hoax Movement > > http://dstormer6em3i4km.onion/a-new-day-following-weinstein-lynching-jew-lawyers-hail-coming-mass-rape-hoax-movement/ > Andrew Anglin > Daily Stormer > February 26, 2020 > > #HarveyWeinsteinDidNothingWrong #FreeHarvey > > As I said on Tuesday, following the conviction of Harvey Weinstein for > various rape hoaxes, heterosexual sex is now effectively illegal in America > (if you’re a man). The message that has been sent to women is that they can > now have any man they’ve ever had sex with in prison on a whim. > > Jew lawyers are celebrating the fact that the Weinstein conviction has > redefined rape, redefined consent, redefined evidence and opens up an entire > new world of rape hoaxing, as they prepare to bring the hammer down on the > goyim. > > > https://www.timesofisrael.com/weinstein-case-could-influence-other-sex-crime-prosecutions/ > : > > New York prosecutors are hailing Harvey Weinstein’s conviction as a > pivotal moment that could change the way the legal system views a type of > sexual assault case historically considered difficult to prove. > > Most of the women who testified against Weinstein stayed in contact > with him — and sometimes had consensual sexual encounters with him — after > alleged attacks. None promptly reported his crimes. There was little physical > evidence to bolster their stories. > > The jury convicted anyway, finding the producer guilty of raping one > woman in 2013 and sexually assaulting another in 2006. > > “This is a new day,” Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. said > after the verdict was announced. “Rape is rape whether the survivor reports > within an hour, within a year or perhaps never. It’s rape despite the > complicated dynamics of power and consent after an assault. It’s rape even if > there is no physical evidence.” > > That is to say: it’s rape if she says it’s rape. > > And she can say it is rape for any reason. > > That is now the law. > > While the law recognizes that people can be assaulted by intimate > partners in ongoing relationships, those cases have rarely been prosecuted in > the past, because they’re difficult to prove, several trial lawyers said. The > tide is starting to change, however, as prosecutors take more risks and > juries become more aware of the complexities of human behavior. > > Now, they no longer have to be proven. > > Because “believe women.” > > “This case challenges our notions of what is force in a sexual > relationship, what is lack of consent in a sexual relationship,” said Paul > DerOhannesian, an Albany, New York, defense lawyer, former sex crimes > prosecutor and author of a guide to sexual assault trials. He followed the > trial coverage and found it telling that one of the first questions from the > jury involved the legal definition of “consent” and “forcible compulsion.” > > … > > One of the first witnesses at trial was an expert on victim behavior, > who testified that it isn’t unusual for sexual assault victims to continue > communicating with their attackers. A decade ago, that type of expert > testimony was rarely allowed. > > … > > Criminal defense attorney Richard Kaplan said the New York case could > both empower women to come forward and embolden prosecutors to take on tough > cases. > > “Now there is a roadmap on how you can win this kind of case,” he said, > predicting more people would come forward. > > “There’s always the fear of coming forward, you know, going through a > trial, getting beat up and humiliated and then not getting that verdict. Now > that they see it can be done, I think more people will come forward and > definitely empower the movement.” > > These Jews are just openly saying: “now we’re just going to start > prosecuting you all – the floodgates are open, and it’s a free-for-all at > this point.” > > Lawyer Carrie Goldberg represents Weinstein accuser Lucia Evans, whose > complaint against him was initially part of the indictment, but Vance’s > office ultimately dropped her allegations from the case. While Goldberg > faults Vance for not sticking with her client, she said the conviction is a > “watershed
Re: It's an Ill Wind
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 7:29 AM Peter Fairbrother wrote: > > 2- It's an Ill Wind > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XRc389TvG8 > > So now we know: first, that the UK government is actually deliberately > trying to infect over 40 million UK citizens, and in doing so expecting, > on their figures, 400,000 deaths. Uh, no, they're only not quarantining or taking other measures. That is not the same as "trying to infect" Some of your analysis is OK, but this statement is false. I don't hear of government agents with spray bottles of viral concoctins chasing down their subjects on the streets, or invading their homes, in order to infect them. Kurt
[MONEY] 3, of top 20 biggest daily gains or losses since 1926, in just the last week - [PEACE]
Ominous signs, biggest swings in history, and scary headines all continue: The Last Time This Happened Was October 1929... https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/last-time-happened-was-october-1929 .. Top 20 biggest daily gains and losses back to 1926. 3 of 5 days this week made the list! 29, 32, 33, 87, 08, 20 had weeks with multiples. .. But even more unusual this week was the fact that the market had back to back 9% swing days... The last time this occurred was the three days ending October 30, 1929... .. But it could never happen again right?
Re: It's an Ill Wind
On 03/14/2020 03:14 PM, \0xDynamite wrote: >>> Corona is a Biblical event. >> >> YESSS >> >> That's the perfect conclusion for this fine mailing list, whose >> content is mostly : > > Did you have an explanation for the failure of the whole world, > including yourself, in making it better with all of your freedom? There's no "failure", unless you're expecting something different. Which, at this point, is arguably unrealistic. > I think not. > > One of us is trying. For sure.
All free men obey authority to the extent that it is unjust
All free men obey authority to the extent that it is unjust, beware the situation in which you cannot respond to their just arguments.
Re: How to Spread Coronavirus on National Media
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Saturday, March 14, 2020 1:42 PM, John Young wrote: > Fauci Touches Face with Hand on National Media, Trump Touches Mic > Emulated by Fauci and Several Attendees, No Recommended Distance > Between Any of Them, Trump Handshakes, One Elbow Bump, What Can Go Wrong? TRUMP ATTENDS RALLY, SHAKES ALL HANDS. CORONA TRUMP MODERN TYPHOID MARY! best regards,
Re: [OT] [COVID-19] Pornhub's Premium Content Is Free All Month to Italians Stuck in Coronavirus Lockdown
This is great news sea sea. Thx for sharing! Original Message On Mar 14, 2020, 5:41 AM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > Pornhub's Premium Content Is Free All Month to Italians Stuck in Coronavirus > Lockdown > https://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2020/03/pornhub-premium-subscriptions-free-italy/ > > I love Italy and PornHub is pure love, awww... All VPNs changed to Italy > right now, hahahaha!!! ;D
Re: list of people censored on lists.debian.org
Handling attacks on a community https://lwn.net/Articles/814916/ Posted Mar 14, 2020 14:15 UTC (Sat) by zenaan (subscriber, #3778) [Link] Codes of Conduct (CoC) have become expected, imposed and as we see, enforced. Many folks today appear to be what is colloquially termed "snowflakes" - so emotionally fragile that even giving a (any, whatsoever) trigger warning, is considered itself "triggering" and therefore subject to CoC censorship, etc., see e.g. https://reason.com/2018/07/29/triggered-by-trigger-warnings/ This is depressing to see - from Linus Torvalds and the Linux Foundation, to Git in recent times, to Richard Stallman (RMS), founder of the Free Software Foundation (USA) being "resigned" by the so-called "FSF community", and of course Debian and most other FLOSS "communities". It is true - holding strictly to certain principles such as freedom of speech (modulo "that which is not actually unlawful"), is not easy, likely not possible, for a "community" that wants to be maximally inclusive of humans with fragile egos and/or fragile emotional natures). So as humans we are different, with different needs and different wants. "Snowflakes" want momma to make all the bad words disappear. Staunch free speech upholders want rigorous and robust discussions, with the right to, at least sometimes, offend the "wilting flower" types. These two types of communities are to some degree not compatible. Either bend the knee as Linus Torvalds has done, and to some extent RMS, or advocate for your preferred environment, or create your preferred environment - but to attack a so called "community" which has, by the authority of those in authority in that community, expelled you from that community, is probably a fruitless and counter productive exercise. Embrace your truth, and find others of like spirit/temperament, and create that which you are moved to create. On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:18:15AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > your ongoing battle appears to be staunch, humorous, challenging, depressing, > and uplifting all at the same time. We feel for ya. > > I'm wondering if you ever subscribed to the cypherpunks mailing list last > year? It's a small community, but passionate, and at least so far as the law > allows, uncensored. > > If it floats yer boat, perhaps join the rest of us outcast n.ggers at the > cypherpunks corral ;) > > At the moment no easy answers have presented themselves, in respect of an > existing "community" such as Debian, except to rebuild a worthy community > from scratch, with vigilant anti-censorship at its foundation, and in the > face of what's happened to Linus, RMS and ESR in the last 12 months, > "founders right to be and make an ass of him or herself" I guess :D (since > of course, that which makes an ass of onesself, is of course in the eye of > the snowflake, e.g. > https://babylonbee.com/news/massive-plank-appears-in-adam-schiffs-eye-as-he-accuses-donald-trump-of-lying). > > In any case, I've no doubt many are very proud of you, and of the posts you > have no doubt "inspired", hint hint, nudge nudge, and a few of which have > been leaked to the public (and to my very grateful eyes just now) by LWN: > > Handling attacks on a community > https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/ > > .. It is not hard to find examples of the kinds of messages that are > being targeted (e.g. here, here, here, and here for fairly recent examples). > > [Snowflake trigger warning, the next 4 messages may well trigger you if > you are a CoC-wielding, wilting snowflake.] > > delegation for the Anti-Anti-Harassment team > > https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/D8yjhiI1gZEt8XLHtzQI8NuwVViFQYh3UNoa7FtSy4zrYhnxbcRzorRBnWCOpPZbSO2ebmHC3xsuctHdpVtXMuVgj80vOwaMjr2PpDdx23U=@protonmail.com/ > > access an independent, uncensored version of Planet Debian > > https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/959afc2e-a0ae-bbdc-14bc-3d0b93de8903@debian.community/ > > Outreachy favouritism and wasted Debian money > > https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/H3wJbOsvVY23EsMR7o0Y20StUbTWCkBFYV5KKlhez1xxWXyPnrd0Sr7Zxr_okyeIuEsADHXRhM-juXVUamswjXU70tCVXEpGIPNHkb4o3jY=@protonmail.com/ > > are Debian mentors nuts? the DebConf scandal > > https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/ea-mime-5e072373-6227-653ea...@www-2.mailo.com/ > > It is also clear that many participants on the mailing list have > concluded who is behind at least some of the anonymous/pseudonymous attacks: > Daniel Pocock. In fact, Pocock was the subject of a different message from > Hartman on debian-project; while he did not directly connect the dots between > the messages and his action expelling Pocock from the Debian project > entirely, it is hard not to come to the conclusion that the two are related. > ... > > > Bravo muffaluggerah, bravo! :D Rip-roaringly bloody good posts, whether wink > winked by yourself, or inspired via others.. > > FWIW Daniel, some of
Re: It's an Ill Wind
Deft analysis. Positive infection salutory to clear out senior royal and political and governmental and military and finance and spies and media and intellectual and celebrities and predators and environmental damagers and drug pushers, allowing angelic ethical fair-minded under-60s to take over the reliquaries in hazmat gear without guillotining, merely shovel the disinfected carcasses into the Thames to be encased in plastic waste and frozen into revived icelands. Until boarded by circumnavigating polar bears with plastic sails sniffing fresh meat down south. At 09:29 AM 3/14/2020, you wrote: 2- It's an Ill Wind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XRc389TvG8 So now we know: first, that the UK government is actually deliberately trying to infect over 40 million UK citizens, and in doing so expecting, on their figures, 400,000 deaths. The reason given for this is to develop "herd immunity", where there are so many people who have had the virus that there is nobody for someone who later contracts it to give it to, as everybody has already had it and is immune. But the Chinese didn't do that. They implemented strong containment and stopped the virus dead. They didn't "lessen the peak", they obliterated the peak. There is no reason why we can't do that too. But the Government insists on buying herd immunity at the cost of at least 400,000 (more likely a million [1]) deaths. Why? The question arises, what good would herd immunity, bought at such a terrible cost in deaths, do? The reason given is that the Government believes that COVID-19 will turn into a seasonal disease, and herd immunity might protect us from it's return next year. There are three big problems with that - First, we don't know that it will return at all. Second, if it does return next year, it will have mutated - and like flu, it is likely that the herd immunity, so dearly bought, will not be effective against next year's version, if it happens. There is also concern about people in China who seem to have gotten the disease twice. We don't know why that is, whether it is two different strains of the virus (there are several hundred known varieties of the COVID-19 virus, it mutates fairly rapidly) or people getting the disease twice - however in either case that would lower the usefulness of any herd immunity. So, I don't see why the UK Government are killing 400,000 people. Apparently it isn't because the UK has a large proportion of older people. Older people who need extensive healthcare, expensive pensions, who tie up a lot of wealth and property - of the predicted 400,000 (million) deaths the vast majority would be of older people. This clearing away of unproductive and expensive (and wealthy) older population would more than balance the budget, releasing £10 billion per year in state pensions, £20 billion per year in heathcare costs, and so on. It would stop the disease in the UK fairly quickly, and it would be the cheapest option (ignoring the actuarial but not-real-pounds cost of the deaths). It would release several hundred thousand badly-needed homes (and cause a property price crash; the UK needs about 1 million homes, which is why UK property is so expensive) and would provide a more balanced population pyramid. So for the UK as a nation it would not be a bad thing (ignoring the deaths), and I fear some politicians may think "Hey, it's just the useless oldies, who cares?". But no. There is probably a sensible reason we don't implement strong confinement and stop the virus in its tracks, rather than letting it have its way. Unfortunately I don't know what that reason is. Peter Fairbrother [1] I calculate around a million deaths, but that is a bit of a back-of-the envelope calculation based on known death rates elsewhere and comparative population age spreads. Exact figures also depend on some assumptions about things we do not know about the disease. I have made what I think are reasonable assumptions. I don't know how reasonable the Goverment's assumptions are, or how they came up with the 400,000 figure.
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It's an Ill Wind
2- It's an Ill Wind https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XRc389TvG8 So now we know: first, that the UK government is actually deliberately trying to infect over 40 million UK citizens, and in doing so expecting, on their figures, 400,000 deaths. The reason given for this is to develop "herd immunity", where there are so many people who have had the virus that there is nobody for someone who later contracts it to give it to, as everybody has already had it and is immune. But the Chinese didn't do that. They implemented strong containment and stopped the virus dead. They didn't "lessen the peak", they obliterated the peak. There is no reason why we can't do that too. But the Government insists on buying herd immunity at the cost of at least 400,000 (more likely a million [1]) deaths. Why? The question arises, what good would herd immunity, bought at such a terrible cost in deaths, do? The reason given is that the Government believes that COVID-19 will turn into a seasonal disease, and herd immunity might protect us from it's return next year. There are three big problems with that - First, we don't know that it will return at all. Second, if it does return next year, it will have mutated - and like flu, it is likely that the herd immunity, so dearly bought, will not be effective against next year's version, if it happens. There is also concern about people in China who seem to have gotten the disease twice. We don't know why that is, whether it is two different strains of the virus (there are several hundred known varieties of the COVID-19 virus, it mutates fairly rapidly) or people getting the disease twice - however in either case that would lower the usefulness of any herd immunity. So, I don't see why the UK Government are killing 400,000 people. Apparently it isn't because the UK has a large proportion of older people. Older people who need extensive healthcare, expensive pensions, who tie up a lot of wealth and property - of the predicted 400,000 (million) deaths the vast majority would be of older people. This clearing away of unproductive and expensive (and wealthy) older population would more than balance the budget, releasing £10 billion per year in state pensions, £20 billion per year in heathcare costs, and so on. It would stop the disease in the UK fairly quickly, and it would be the cheapest option (ignoring the actuarial but not-real-pounds cost of the deaths). It would release several hundred thousand badly-needed homes (and cause a property price crash; the UK needs about 1 million homes, which is why UK property is so expensive) and would provide a more balanced population pyramid. So for the UK as a nation it would not be a bad thing (ignoring the deaths), and I fear some politicians may think "Hey, it's just the useless oldies, who cares?". But no. There is probably a sensible reason we don't implement strong confinement and stop the virus in its tracks, rather than letting it have its way. Unfortunately I don't know what that reason is. Peter Fairbrother [1] I calculate around a million deaths, but that is a bit of a back-of-the envelope calculation based on known death rates elsewhere and comparative population age spreads. Exact figures also depend on some assumptions about things we do not know about the disease. I have made what I think are reasonable assumptions. I don't know how reasonable the Goverment's assumptions are, or how they came up with the 400,000 figure.
Re: list of people censored on lists.debian.org
Hi Daniel, your ongoing battle appears to be staunch, humorous, challenging, depressing, and uplifting all at the same time. We feel for ya. I'm wondering if you ever subscribed to the cypherpunks mailing list last year? It's a small community, but passionate, and at least so far as the law allows, uncensored. If it floats yer boat, perhaps join the rest of us outcast n.ggers at the cypherpunks corral ;) At the moment no easy answers have presented themselves, in respect of an existing "community" such as Debian, except to rebuild a worthy community from scratch, with vigilant anti-censorship at its foundation, and in the face of what's happened to Linus, RMS and ESR in the last 12 months, "founders right to be and make an ass of him or herself" I guess :D (since of course, that which makes an ass of onesself, is of course in the eye of the snowflake, e.g. https://babylonbee.com/news/massive-plank-appears-in-adam-schiffs-eye-as-he-accuses-donald-trump-of-lying). In any case, I've no doubt many are very proud of you, and of the posts you have no doubt "inspired", hint hint, nudge nudge, and a few of which have been leaked to the public (and to my very grateful eyes just now) by LWN: Handling attacks on a community https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/ .. It is not hard to find examples of the kinds of messages that are being targeted (e.g. here, here, here, and here for fairly recent examples). [Snowflake trigger warning, the next 4 messages may well trigger you if you are a CoC-wielding, wilting snowflake.] delegation for the Anti-Anti-Harassment team https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/D8yjhiI1gZEt8XLHtzQI8NuwVViFQYh3UNoa7FtSy4zrYhnxbcRzorRBnWCOpPZbSO2ebmHC3xsuctHdpVtXMuVgj80vOwaMjr2PpDdx23U=@protonmail.com/ access an independent, uncensored version of Planet Debian https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/959afc2e-a0ae-bbdc-14bc-3d0b93de8903@debian.community/ Outreachy favouritism and wasted Debian money https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/H3wJbOsvVY23EsMR7o0Y20StUbTWCkBFYV5KKlhez1xxWXyPnrd0Sr7Zxr_okyeIuEsADHXRhM-juXVUamswjXU70tCVXEpGIPNHkb4o3jY=@protonmail.com/ are Debian mentors nuts? the DebConf scandal https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/ea-mime-5e072373-6227-653ea...@www-2.mailo.com/ It is also clear that many participants on the mailing list have concluded who is behind at least some of the anonymous/pseudonymous attacks: Daniel Pocock. In fact, Pocock was the subject of a different message from Hartman on debian-project; while he did not directly connect the dots between the messages and his action expelling Pocock from the Debian project entirely, it is hard not to come to the conclusion that the two are related. ... Bravo muffaluggerah, bravo! :D Rip-roaringly bloody good posts, whether wink winked by yourself, or inspired via others.. FWIW Daniel, some of us wholeheartedly approve of your anti-PC crusade :) -- the "politically correct" bullshit being elevated in the world today is a form of insanity. Opposing such insanity is one of our sacred duties. But such insanity is being funded far and wide, so it can get a bit depressing at times :( Anyway, hat tip to you, Daniel. Here's a cypherpunks post from a while back which is sort of on-topic (it's a couple 4 letter words, so a bit guttery): Git falls https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-November/077317.html On a completely related topic to this "Git falls" email, "get black holed, start oil drilling". Best regards, Zenaan On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 11:22:19AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 11:21:58PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I've been looking through debian-private and I found messages from > > Alexander Wirt (formorer) about censoring various people from > > lists.debian.org. Some of those messages appear to be defamatory. You > > are in BCC because your name appears in debian-private. > > > > I've written a blog to help people work around censorship and other > > dishonest practices, please tell me if this is helpful for you: > > > > https://danielpocock.com/freedom-and-censorship-on-mailing-lists/ > > > > Does anybody know any other victims of censorship in Debian or any other > > free software community? > > > > Stay free, > > > > Daniel > > > Hi Daniel, > > Thank you very much for the time and care you've taken to write up > your above blog. > > It's always reassuring to see someone notice, let alone take action, > in relation to one or another of our freedoms - be that the freedom > to communicate, the freedom to move and travel anonymously within our > communities, or the freedom to engage in a vigorous and vicious > verbal stoush with a "sworn arch enemy" for a few days, and turn > around afterwards and still continue communicating with them - or not > - as we so freely choose. > > When the screaming banshee snowflakes do all in their power to drown > out discussion
[OT] [COVID-19] Pornhub's Premium Content Is Free All Month to Italians Stuck in Coronavirus Lockdown
Pornhub's Premium Content Is Free All Month to Italians Stuck in Coronavirus Lockdown https://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2020/03/pornhub-premium-subscriptions-free-italy/ I love Italy and PornHub is pure love, awww... All VPNs changed to Italy right now, hahahaha!!! ;D
Re: Cryptocurrency: Duncan Lemp aka: YungQuant - Murdered by Police While Asleep
His name was DUNCAN LEMP. Cryptocurrency Market Making With Duncan Lemp - Crypto College Interviews https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pv_Rivu1Uo https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22duncan+lemp%22
Woar Poarn: Fw: Russian vs Turk air power and defence - [PEACE]
Russia's air force capabilities are simply stunning .. - Forwarded message from Zenaan Harkness - From: Zenaan Harkness Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 23:01:25 +1100 Subject: Russian vs Turk air power and defence Wow. This is an amazing difference. Without NATO, Turkey is cooked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEeYk65jzko Short article here: http://thesaker.is/one-russian-airbase-could-take-down-turkeys-entire-fighter-fleet/ .. What it is important to keep in mind is not only that Turkey needs Russia far more than vice versa – but also that, in regards to Syria, the balance of power between the two parties remains extremely one-sided. While NATO’s willingness to overtly support Turkey should it provoke an armed conflict with Russian forces remains highly questionable, an assessment of the military capabilities of both parties shows a tremendous Russian advantage in the field in the event of an armed conflict – with the far smaller size of Russian units in Syria compensated for by overwhelming technological supremacy. ... - End forwarded message -
Cryptocurrency: Duncan Lemp aka: YungQuant - Murdered by Police While Asleep
https://hosted.ap.org/semissourian/article/0840d3f354693625605290eecf307ac6/lawyer-man-asleep-when-police-fired-house-killing-him https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-duncan-lemp https://twitter.com/search?q="duncan%20lemp; Duncan Socrates Lemp aka: YungQuant aka: CaptainCuck42 https://github.com/YungQuant https://www.facebook.com/duncan.lemp https://www.linkedin.com/in/duncan-lemp https://duncanlemp.com/ https://twitter.com/yungquant https://twitter.com/duncanlemp https://www.instagram.com/p/B9rKeK6JZRC/ https://www.mymilitia.com/profile/5616-yungquant/ "I saw and heard my baby today. Looks like a gummy bear and has a strong heartbeat." -- gf Análisis técnico · C Programming · Cryptocurrency · Equity trading · Finance · Machine learning · Momentum (technical analysis) · Neuropharmacology · NumPy · Probabilistic risk assessment · Probability and statistics · Python · Quantitative analysis (chemistry) · Statistical analysis · Statistics · Support(technical analysis) · TensorFlow Pigs lust for killing sleepy people... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5aa_7fDvnE SILVER SPRING, Md. (AP) — A Maryland man who was shot and killed by a police officer was asleep in his bedroom when police opened fire from outside his house, an attorney for the 21-year-old man’s family said Friday. The man’s girlfriend was also wounded. The Montgomery County Police Department said in a news release Friday that Duncan Socrates Lemp “confronted” police and was shot by one of the officers early Thursday. Rene Sandler, an attorney for Lemp’s relatives, said an eyewitness gave a “completely contrary” account of the shooting. She said police could have “absolutely no justification” for shooting Lemp based on what she has heard about the circumstances. “The facts as I understand them from eyewitnesses are incredibly concerning,” she told The Associated Press. The warrant that police obtained to search the Potomac home Lemp shared with his parents and 19-year-old brother doesn’t mention any “imminent threat” to law enforcement or the public, Lemp’s relatives said in a statement released Friday by their lawyers. Nobody in the house that morning had a criminal record, the statement adds. “Any attempt by the police to shift responsibility onto Duncan or his family, who were sleeping when the police fired shots into their home, is not supported by the facts,” the statement says. A police department spokesman didn’t immediately respond to the statements by the family or their lawyer. The department’s news release on Friday says tactical unit members were serving a “high-risk” search warrant around 4:30 a.m. when one of the unit’s officers fatally shot Lemp. Police detectives recovered three rifles and two handguns from the home. Lemp was prohibited from possessing firearms, police said. “Detectives were following up on a complaint from the public that Lemp, though prohibited, was in possession of firearms,” the release says without elaborating. Sandler said the family believes police fired gunshots, not a flashbang or other projectile, from outside the home, including through Lemp’s bedroom window, while he and his girlfriend were sleeping. Nobody in the home heard any warnings or commands before police opened fire, she said. “There is no warrant or other justification that would ever allow for that unless there is an imminent threat, which there was not,” Sandler said. The police department’s news release says the “facts and circumstances of the encounter” are still under investigation. Prosecutors from neighboring Howard County will review the evidence at the conclusion of the investigation. “An established agreement between the Montgomery County State’s Attorney’s Office and the Howard County State’s Attorney’s Office stipulates that when an officer-involved shooting involving injury or death occurs in one county, the other county’s State’s Attorney’s Office will review the event,” police said. Lemp was Caucasian, according to Sandler. She did not know the race of the unidentified officer involved in the shooting because she said the officers were wearing masks. The officer was placed on administrative leave, a standard procedure after police shootings. Sandler said Lemp’s grief-stricken family is traumatized. Their statement says they intend to “hold each and every person responsible for his death.” “We believe that the body camera footage and other forensic evidence from this event will support what Duncan’s family already knows, that he was murdered,” the statement says. Lemp worked as a software developer and was trying to raise money for a startup company, according to friends and co-workers. “He was a talented, smart guy. Super nice. Didn’t deserve to get shot,” said Samuel Reid, whose Canadian software company employed Lemp as an independent contractor. Tsolmondorj Natsagdorj, 24, of Fairfax, Virginia, said he met Lemp in 2016 and bonded with him over their shared interest in cryptocurrency. They also talked
World War III is a guerrilla information war with no division between military and civilian participation.
World War III is a guerrilla information war with no division between military and civilian participation. - Marshall McLuhan
India: 1st 2020 death due to flu^Bcoronavirus - quarantines entire country, literally -- Re: Corona-Virus: A "Collective Fear Event"
TFW you quarantine ~1/6th of the world's entire population based on a single fatality :) Preventive Measures Are Good, But Has Panic Struck India Harder Than Coronavirus? https://sputniknews.com/india/202003131078554174-preventive-measures-are-good-but-has-panic-struck-india-harder-than-coronavirus/ New Delhi (Sputnik): With the Indian government’s unprecedented move to suspend all visas and introduce a travel ban, the country appears to have literally quarantined itself. There are over 75 confirmed cases of coronavirus in India, which also witnessed the first death caused by the infection on 12 March. ...
Western philosophy vs. Eastern philosophy
Eastern philosophy leads you to no where and expects you to find yourself. Western philosophy leads you in the wrong direction and expects you to find your way out. "All art is propaganda." - George Orwell Worth noting that Orwell compiled a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orwell%27s_list
