TmoNews: FCC 5G mmWave auction results show T-Mobile spent $873 million on spectrum licenses

[jim bell]

TmoNews: FCC 5G mmWave auction results show T-Mobile spent $873 million on 
spectrum licenses.
https://www.tmonews.com/2020/03/fcc-mmwave-5g-auction-results-t-mobile-spectrum-licenses/

Re: Coronavirus Awesome Mix 2020

[grarpamp]

Message from a musician...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcYSWg4-zKM

Re: Cryptocurrency: Duncan Lemp aka: YungQuant - Murdered by Police While Asleep

[grarpamp]

Boogaloo Bars by Dom - His name was DUNCAN LEMP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpq9pl8IVig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2YnMPArU-c Don't Tread On Me

Re: Coronavirus Awesome Mix 2020

[grarpamp]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1ofOEB07mdSn8eJleg5M_Ho8Q25Lp5Xc mafiaa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnySyrMtfK8 mi coronas


> El Vice-Presidente PencilPenis sez there will be Curfew, and 'Social
> Distancing' regulations, soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP6CNrzSNhQ

> "Don't Stand So Close To Me" will be enforced by federal law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWtsx3wNxj4 dont stand so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHE07DeRIEU panic musical
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sW9_7RxFsw caint nobody touch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDNnrG1eisA got supplies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTYxDMYKyiI redneck prep

Re: Coronavirus Awesome Mix 2020

[grarpamp]

> Coronavirus Awesome Mix 2020
> https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Jpc4oj6UlWF7BzEAD9cHI?si=XbY2Hoo2TAyYtGFtU9Z8XA

Coronavirus Awesome Mix 2020 - Thomas Krist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVPl-F9RT6P1GHZ1jrTMPdGmupzAstDVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c09m5f7Gnic john oliver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJIsmDhzoD0 conan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2oJk8d_nCA simpsons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztklXutLoT4 trap theme intro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgnBQ9qOqmY stupid cough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QXvh8fVPI torn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YokKlGB_Now cardi b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQj1paI5mKI cardi b
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsz0ktTdZpY remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdWMEe6sLDY sound of silence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MPcv9gtSU4 ai corona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmpaFXFP2K8 creepy crawlies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKv8Y_A9P3c nerd city
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVbJvpVnebc havana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlxrccYb7XM na na
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIvYFx29n9s robberdj
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUyMrhSZbKU trendy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59jXuECxgMA vag lavi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iwFi0CAS6M nk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQWx5kFjX6w hindi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsQ7ZDii8v4 kolona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ1pdi5tEBo co19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHHYJoRFGaw italix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFsoi7KnBhk wash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juugAWnBRKY whasmyname
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OamFkRzncBw sizzla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF3dg5seGLs yofrangel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpmHS7cLgfI mai aya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oA91G3GjK8 nica dance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0DP1_qqk3Q go!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLogN1ddGCI chennai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnpo2U53UWI prevenir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmP4lmGEdjE mardahl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ0LtvXFYek plague rmx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWkXLZHs3aQ corona time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtulL3oArQw ghen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH7NmcIBjaM nepal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFKHq4wr4CA deutsch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PebXCdzCfZc catch kill bin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CCW4Xnp_sQ lament
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqasQyatfBQ cumbia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FiMWahhf2c keisha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FqundCKB_M cancion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU_TpiJ-x7o tik draw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwNeEY3TBY0 chino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qam9gmjQMA hands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuN1isqR32U lil nix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugtN6HCqatc gmac move
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaBq9ai5wI0 dami
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxGzz6D608U benk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WKs3BPbeN4 stockdale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FnN5xoz41k rhapsody
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks34-V77Z_o carty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWVYHjMQOsE rap trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e5r7DZxiKA danny g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb2iHokPbL4 shivam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swDTQbTViwk chaos fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQZXBJMkX8c kung flu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDLeOTtd6kI click yo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2WD1eDw9uc ayush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxOjKydXpog poeta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNbA8FvYFxs tagalog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7rpaSvnntY yo hands
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McE5Oso-zFo trippie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjgAKGn6IGQ still one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRm-GjgTZ1M bzrp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5TimD9psH8 sagar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9YirNgAzXI jealous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDWQZqF95ow diskriminasyon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L5Ve1cBZ0k india
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFfdBs2tqOA worldwide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxnkq__UtFs angkasa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx5JW2bouBY figo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcw06pwUp08 jain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_9pTCRpTWA algeria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ujPDBt_l0M corn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo7HB-slsm4 sharona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7EJKnKjPKQ mamba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl-T3HXY6hE gafarock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zRRP3yXiJI old town road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDFkQ8FTTgw lockdown blues


Boogaloo Bars by Dom - His name was DUNCAN LEMP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpq9pl8IVig

Re: Coronavirus Awesome Mix 2020

[Razer]

On 3/15/20 3:14 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> So let's listen to some "contagious music"...  ;)
>
> Coronavirus Awesome Mix 2020
>
> https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Jpc4oj6UlWF7BzEAD9cHI?si=XbY2Hoo2TAyYtGFtU9Z8XA
>


El Vice-Presidente PencilPenis sez there will be Curfew, and 'Social
Distancing' regulations, soon.

"Don't Stand So Close To Me" will be enforced by federal law.

Rr


signature.asc
Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Phone Tech: Braxman Interviews McAfee, Linux Phones

[grarpamp]

Braxman on McAfee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ABY98ERf7Y
https://medium.com/@Brax_Me/john-mcafee-a-real-life-jason-bourne-7dafa081b3ef
Topics include disinformation, secret private networks, radio jamming,
gmail, active surveillance, facial recognition.


De-Googling Cheap Android 10 Phones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXLo15l2i4c

Privacy Phone Choices
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVJo9faE1fM

Brax.me
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYVU6rModlGxvJbszCclGGw/videos

Coronavirus Awesome Mix 2020

[Cecilia Tanaka]

So let's listen to some "contagious music"...  ;)

Coronavirus Awesome Mix 2020

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4Jpc4oj6UlWF7BzEAD9cHI?si=XbY2Hoo2TAyYtGFtU9Z8XA

>

Re: Radio: MeshTastic GPS Messenger, Open Time of Flight LIDAR, Rowhammering DDR4 with TRRespass

[jim bell]

 On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 04:03:27 PM PDT, Zig the N.g 
 wrote:
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 07:16:45PM +, jim bell wrote:
>  Jim Bell's comments interspersed:
[snip]


> https://www.vusec.net/projects/trrespass/
> 
>> It is quite possible that my isotopic dielectric invention will greatly 
>> improve performance in the area of resisting rowhammer.  One major 
>> figure-of-merit in the DRAM chip design is the ratio of the bit-cell 
>> capacitance to the bit-line capacitance:  bigger is better.  The way a DRAM 
>> bit line works is that it is connected many hundreds of bit-cells, gated by 
>> row-address lines.  Initially, the bit line is fully charged, and then the 
>> row address is turned on, shorting the specific bit-cell to the bit-line.
>>   There may be many hundreds of bit-cells potentially connected to a given 
>>bit-line, but of course only one at a time.  So, if the bitline is charged 
>>to, say, 3.0 volts, and the bit-cell is also charged to 3 volts, doing that 
>>connection changes little.  But if the bit-cell is charged to 0 volts, doing 
>>that connection drops the bit-line voltage slightly.  This voltage difference 
>>is amplified during the read cycle, and then written back into the cell at 
>>the end of the cycle,
>> What is needed is an increase in capacitance of the bit-cell, and a decrease 
>> in the capacitance of the bit-line.  My invention can do both.

>I thought that invention was supposed to be applicable to fibre-optic cable 
>extrusion somehow.
No, you are thinking about my isotope-modified optical fiber invention.   
https://daltonium.com/optical-fiber/   Far better described in my patent:  
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/9459401.html    Remove Si-29, Ge-73, and O-17 
isotopes from the silica and germania in silica optical waveguides, and loss 
will be reduced from today's record of 0.1419 dB/kilometer.   
https://global-sei.com/company/press/2017/03/prs029.html  

 Perhaps it will be reduced as far as 0.001 dB/kilometer:  If it gets as low as 
0.003 dB/kilometer, it will be possible to transmit from New York to Ireland 
(5000 kilometers) under the sea with NO EDFA   
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_amplifier   amplifiers or repeaters.  
Currently fibers take about 40 EDFA amplifiers to go that distance.    
Isotope-Modified Dielectric
I have applied for a second patent on isotope-substitution of atoms in 
semiconductors and dielectrics.  (The latter, materials used to form 
capacitors, such as bit-cells and bit-lines.)    https://daltonium.com/   


 > Can you explain how your invention can be applied to the semi-conductor 
fabrication process on an IC (which I understand only extremely minimally as 
layers of materials, at least one layer of some sort of silicon and another 
layer of some sort of conductor, and using acid or lasers to etch away a 
pattern in the top layer.

Between a transistor's gate electrode (originally, 1960's and 1970's) a metal 
such as aluminum, then for many years silicon, now I think it's typically a 
metal again) is an electrically-non-conducting material, an insulator, that had 
a characteristic dielectric constant.  Until 2007 it was usually silica (SiO2), 
with a dielectric constant of about 3.9 (vacuum D.C. is 1.; air is about 
1.0005) but by that year the the minimum thickness got so small (1.2 
nanometers) that quantum effects allow electricity to 'leak' through that 
insulator, wasting about 1 amp per square centimeter of chip area.  See 
'quantum tunnelling'.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunnelling    
This can become extremely wasteful, especially in battery-operated devices such 
as smartphones.  
   During this time, 2007, the minimum feature size was about 65 nanometer; 
today it is around 10 nanometer.

What the industry needed was a material with a higher D.C. to allow use of a 
thicker gate layer.  They got it by using various compounds of the element 
Hafnium, which had D.C.' of between 16 and 24.    Google 'transistor hafnium' 
for much more detail.  
Or:http://www.freepatentsonline.com/result.html?sort=relevance=top_txt=hafnium+transistor=_us=on




But today, they have 'run out of gas' yet again.   My solution is the 
substitution of isotopes of the elements which currently make up those 
dielectrics.  I can't say much more at this stage.
However, I CAN say that I have a very good use for about $120,000 to obtain 
patents for this invention in about 8 nations (one is the European Patent 
Cooperation Region.)
Due to the nature of the patent system, obtaining those patents 'locks up' the 
large majority of the world's IC market for this invention.  
Further inventions and patents:
I have many other isotope-based inventions waiting to be patented, but I cannot 
disclose them, at least not until I file a Provisional Patent Application.
                 Jim Bell



  

Re: It's an Ill Wind

[Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH]

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 2:30 PM grarpamp  wrote:
> On 3/15/20, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH  wrote:
> > I slightly misspoke - the mission of government is to prosecute crime
>
> If that were in fact true, then govts would have to prosecuted
> themselves out of existance, not least of which for some of their
> own crimes against humanity below.


You are preaching to the choir.

> > unfortunate becomes defined as a tragedy, and therefore legitimizes
> > all government intrusion into the private sphere.
>
> Yes that is one obvious game govts play.
> And you suckers keep falling for it time after time.

You suckers? You don't include yourself in the psyops game?

> > War, that is, invasion by a foreign power, is a species of crime.
>
> Their own govt power is, as often and more, and in many
> ways, in fact the initiating invader. Stop framing your
> minds away from that fact.

Again, preaching to the choir.

> > Illness is not.
>
> Here a lots of illness crimes done by sick government...



Focus, man, focus. Yes, biowarfare is real, and has been practiced by
governments and individuals. In this case, the evidence isn't there,
any more than was evidence in 1918.

> > Indeed yes, but not in this case.
>
> It is exactly the case. Doesn't matter if govts created
> virus or not. They're still on TV 24x7 leveraging their
> propaganda game, FUD trolling for your worship, cutting favoritive
> licenses over free market competition, etc. Govt plays game
> for itself to some extent in *every* case.

Let's keep this on target. The US government, at least, did not, and
probably the Chinese did not either, absent better evidence,
deliberately create the virus or infect anyone. We can take lots of
issue with how it's been handled, but we've seen no evidence in this
case that the infection is deliberate. Nor do we see, at least in the
US (China is up for debate on this point), the government withholding
care. Poor planning and execution, yes, and Trump trying to downplay
it, yes, and Trump trying to keep proceedings secret, yes, but not
much else.

> Government is standalone competing entity, a virus,
> one that you should not let win, lest you succumb.

I don't know how old you are, but I've been studying and teaching
freedom for a long, long time. Don't teach grandpa to suck eggs.

Kurt

Re: It's an Ill Wind

[grarpamp]

On 3/15/20, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH  wrote:
> I slightly misspoke - the mission of government is to prosecute crime

If that were in fact true, then govts would have to prosecuted
themselves out of existance, not least of which for some of their
own crimes against humanity below.

Government rule...
#x: Do not prosecute self.
#x: Keep inner DNA workings secret against inspect.
#x: Protect self at all costs, including in own hardened bunker-spores.
#x: Replicate, distribute, mutate.
#x: Broadcast FUD pheromones attracting victims into trap.
#x: Insert numbing agents allowing proboscis to suck.

> unfortunate becomes defined as a tragedy, and therefore legitimizes
> all government intrusion into the private sphere.

Yes that is one obvious game govts play.
And you suckers keep falling for it time after time.

> War, that is, invasion by a foreign power, is a species of crime.

Their own govt power is, as often and more, and in many
ways, in fact the initiating invader. Stop framing your
minds away from that fact.

> Illness is not.

Here a lots of illness crimes done by sick government...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_warfare
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_program
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

> Indeed yes, but not in this case.

It is exactly the case. Doesn't matter if govts created
virus or not. They're still on TV 24x7 leveraging their
propaganda game, FUD trolling for your worship, cutting favoritive
licenses over free market competition, etc. Govt plays game
for itself to some extent in *every* case.

Government is standalone competing entity, a virus,
one that you should not let win, lest you succumb.

Re: Ryacko

[jim bell]

 On Wednesday, March 4, 2020, 04:04:00 PM PST, Cecilia Tanaka 
 wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 19:27 rooty  wrote:


Anyone heard from ryacko. He went dark and just wondering what happened

>Maybe did you call him "super old" or say you are richer than him, even being 
>a bot.
I annoyed Jim about his weight, saying it is perfectly regular for USA, 
>because received a private message talking about "public fat shaming" and 
>trying to prove me that 60 years old is too much time for living.  Sorry, Jim. 
> Another person had sent me the stupid message. 

No, due to my spam-folder misdirection, I haven't actually yet read about the  
original "weight" email, although I just read your (unnecessary) apology for 
it.   Doesn't bother me. There are plenty of FALSE things that I can be upset 
about; no point at being upset at TRUE things!
              Jim Bell  

Re: Bad News/Good News

[jim bell]

 Just read this due to a spam-folder "clog".   Fortunately for me, I remain 
quite well.  
             Jim Bell

On Wednesday, March 4, 2020, 05:55:19 AM PST, Steven Schear 
 wrote:  
 
 To be clear, the standard way PM wagers work is zero sum. You bet he dies and 
Jim bet he lives. Should he live you lose and he wins.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 1:10 PM grarpamp  wrote:

On 3/3/20, jim bell  wrote:
> care home
> vomiting

Bad food.

> diabetes.

People can improve a lot with work.

> So, anyone want to take bets on whether I fall ill in the next 2-3 weeks?

AP humor you hid in those words Jim.

Would be funny if a prediction market sprung up
around that question, such a market could be
viewed as a great honor. And profitable if you put $10
on it and decided to avoid/survive corona, thereby turning
it into $10M at all your dead detractors expense :)
I add $10 to the "jim lives" pot.
  

Re: Bad News/Good News

[jim bell]

 I just discovered that about 2 months of most (but not all) Cypherpunks 
traffic has been going into my spam folder.  Fixed that.  I will answer inline:

On Tuesday, March 3, 2020, 08:18:07 AM PST, Cecilia Tanaka 
 wrote:  
 
 On Tue, Mar 3, 2020, 10:23 rooty  wrote:


Hey Jim drink lots of oj, get some exercise and lots of sleep. Even though you 
are super old don't think you'll get it.

>Natural orange, lemon, or other fruits juice, not disgusting artificial 
>beverages with lots of sugar, please, Jim.  Green tea would be healthy too.
>(But it has a bit of caffeine.  Do not drink it in case of insomnia or 
>anxiety, please!)
>You need to give a boost in your organism.  So keep your hydration, eat 
>healthy food, and get regular rest, please.
Yes, I am still healthy, well over one month after my (conceivable) exposure.  
I've heard that Seattle will be quarantined tomorrow.  If that's true, you will 
hear it on the news.  40 deaths in Washington State so far, I think. (But I 
haven't heard the news this morning..)

>Rooty, being sincere, why did you decide to be cruel?  "Super old"?!  Jim is 
>old enough for being our father, but he is definitely not a "super old" person.
Ask excuses to Jim, please.  He is already sad enough for being called "super 
old".
Well, because of the spam folder problem, I didn't hear about the "super old" 
thing.  But at age 20, I would have probably said 61 is "super old" too.  And 
in about 3 weeks, I will be 62. 

>And Jim, sorry for saying you are overweight.  For your country patterns, you 
>are just another regular guy.  Sorry, it was not "fat shaming", just think it 
>is not healthy when you already have diabetes.  Take care with this disease.  
>It can be most dangerous than any flu.

No need to apologize:  I AM "overweight".  Sigh.  

  

Fwd: The FAX by email

[Rob Avina]

-- Forwarded message -
From: Rob Avina 
Date: Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 12:02 PM
Subject: Fwd: The FAX by email
To: 



--Forwarded Message-
Facts are important.  There is an idea that they are becoming
bifurcated and will soon be obsolete.  I think this is a false idea.
A truth is only as true as the ideas surrounding it.

Following are 5 links.  In order of creation and a short description
of each.  They are hosted on Google servers, so they should be safe
and work.  Take the time and precautions you see fit.  I have.

Disney Disabled Services Letter.pdf  A letter to Disneyland's disabled
services:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Qc2h_Z5ZYKefjRgJ_Ahfp0uU8r2O5-JV-R_SvbDVf6A/edit?usp=sharing

1fTx0DDN.txt & dontdoanythingaboutthisplease.txt are the same
document, a letter to CIA Director Haspel:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DlaL5oONIH0mB_vUamNbcMLrmwsPbhttfzTVILgiNXc/edit?usp=sharing

jiminiproject.pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15t_fHDgwa06bB4w0tWKoZZR8kjrJYxeB/view?usp=sharing

Business letter.pdf a letter to Chelsea Manning sent to her jail cell
in Virginia by mail, with a copy sent to her lawyer via twitter
messenger:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CsvbTWchuMlaJLIb06iqKfRImG1tC3p6uZVZU0wil0Y/edit?usp=sharing

A list of Fax numbers I have sent these documents to. Sorting by Date
or phone will give you a good idea of where I was trying to
communicate to. The "Done - Good" tab at the bottom is only successful
faxes with page count confirmations as copied from my account:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bexjO2Q_Zyd3Y15DpuC6xWuD6ViztzWWn0SwSaBtaM0/edit?usp=sharing

There are other facts, but these are some of mine.  Please look into this.

Thank you.& Aloha

-Rob

Re: list of people censored on lists.debian.org

[John Young]

Zenaan, it's a pleasure to see compliments and courtesy on this 
robotic, rude, intolerant, prejudiced, cantankerous, bilious, 
insulting, repugnant, monotously accusatory, blathering, 
knee-jerking, cowardly-psuedo-abusive, dot dot dot, forum.


At 07:46 AM 3/15/2020, you wrote:

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:26:27AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 14/03/2020 14:17, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > Hi Daniel,
> > your ongoing battle appears to be staunch, humorous, 
challenging, depressing, and uplifting all at the same time.  We feel for ya.

>
> Thanks for your feedback
>
> I'm not an LWN subscriber so I can neither see nor comment on the thread
> you mentioned.

I emailed you a copy.


> But from the title, I derived this:
> https://danielpocock.com/handling-attacks-on-volunteers-and-their-families/

Damn bro, thank you so much for sharing your story!

These lines:

.. "People tried to give me orders about what I can and can't 
tell the community who elected me to represent them."


.. "If you have any doubts about this, you can check the DM 
keyring log, why would they move me to the DM keyring if I had done 
anything that would remotely justify an expulsion? Anybody on the 
DM keyring can still upload all of their packages.  In what kind of 
organization do you expel or fire somebody and still keep asking 
them to do stuff for you like that?"


.. [from a linked email] "Ian, How can you consider post hoc 
evidence gathering and justification to be ethical?"



just absolutely nails it for me!


Again, thank you for sharing, and thank you for your living of your 
principles!


It is clear to many that not only Debian, but many other places in 
FLOSS land have been overrun by petty Nazis, and fragile snowflake 
like ones in particular.



> > I'm wondering if you ever subscribed to the cypherpunks mailing 
list last year?  It's a small community, but passionate, and at 
least so far as the law allows, uncensored.

> >
> > If it floats yer boat, perhaps join the rest of us outcast 
n.ggers at the cypherpunks corral ;)

>
> It sounds interesting but the biggest challenge for me is always to
> serve the users.  That's what being a real Debian Developer is about, it
> is written in the Debian Social Contract, point #4.
>
> With users in mind, I'm working on some tools to neutralize harassment
> and abuse, for example, a Mozilla Thunderbird MailExtensions plugin for
> adding the BCC and List-* headers to each message.  Then, if somebody
> feels they have been harassed by a list admin, they can continue
> participating in a conversation with minimum inconvenience.
>
>
> > At the moment no easy answers have presented themselves,
>
> but there are some good answers that require a little bit of work.  That
> is what I'm working on, that is why it is taking some time.


Sounds like a useful tool.


> > In any case, I've no doubt many are very proud of you, and of 
the posts you have no doubt "inspired", hint hint, nudge nudge, and 
a few of which have been leaked to the public (and to my very 
grateful eyes just now) by LWN:

> >
> >   Handling attacks on a community
> >   https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/
> >
> > ..  It is not hard to find examples of the kinds of 
messages that are being targeted (e.g. here, here, here, and here 
for fairly recent examples).

> >
> > [Snowflake trigger warning, the next 4 messages may well 
trigger you if you are a CoC-wielding, wilting snowflake.]

> >
> > delegation for the Anti-Anti-Harassment team
> > 
https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/D8yjhiI1gZEt8XLHtzQI8NuwVViFQYh3UNoa7FtSy4zrYhnxbcRzorRBnWCOpPZbSO2ebmHC3xsuctHdpVtXMuVgj80vOwaMjr2PpDdx23U=@protonmail.com/

>
>
>
>
> > access an independent, uncensored version of Planet Debian
> > 
https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/959afc2e-a0ae-bbdc-14bc-3d0b93de8903@debian.community/

>
>
> That particular link is not trolling, debian.community is simply an
> independent news site.  Being independent, it is only natural that it
> will cover the issues that official newsletters will sidestep.  It is
> 100% transparent, as explained on the About page.


No doubt this "100% transparency" is one of the reasons -some- folks 
don't like it :)



> > Outreachy favouritism and wasted Debian money
> > 
https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/H3wJbOsvVY23EsMR7o0Y20StUbTWCkBFYV5KKlhez1xxWXyPnrd0Sr7Zxr_okyeIuEsADHXRhM-juXVUamswjXU70tCVXEpGIPNHkb4o3jY=@protonmail.com/

> >
> > are Debian mentors nuts? the DebConf scandal
> > 
https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/ea-mime-5e072373-6227-653ea...@www-2.mailo.com/

> >
> > It is also clear that many participants on the mailing list 
have concluded who is behind at least some of the 
anonymous/pseudonymous attacks: Daniel Pocock. In fact, Pocock was 
the subject of a different message from Hartman on debian-project; 
while he did not directly connect the dots between the messages and 
his action expelling Pocock from the Debian project entirely, it is 
hard not to come to the 

Re: list of people censored on lists.debian.org

[Zenaan Harkness]

Conclusion to a mini thread on the LWN article:

Handling attacks on a community https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/

Posted Mar 15, 2020 11:25 UTC (Sun) by zenaan (subscriber, #3778)
https://lwn.net/Articles/814970/

[I wrote:]
>> So is it fair to assume then that you agree with all the resignations 
(RMS), knee-bending (Torvalds), and turmoil (openSUSE and many others)?

[Cyberax wrote:]
> Absolutely. People should learn to behave like decent human beings, and 
not like entitled brats.

[I responded:]
In other words:

Cyberax: "Richard Matthew Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation 
(FSF) and staunch catalyst, visionary, upholder and all around grandfather for 
the entire FLOSS/Libre movement for ~30 years now, behaved or spoke, in my ever 
so high opinion, "like an entitled brat," and so therefore (I say) it is a 
great thing that he was "resigned" from his FSF."

So ... speaking of "entitled brats" ...

["Mummy told me I am fully entitled to be free from all confronting words 
by anyone forever." - You know, that's not a bad definition of "snowflake", not 
bad at all ... we shall be making use of that :D]




Now for a definition of snowflake:

  Snowflake:

1. An entitled brat.

2. A wilting fragile flower.

3. A human who considers themselves entitled to be protected against all 
confronting words for the rest of their lives.

4. A useless human who achieves attention by whining about words they 
cannot resist reading, which have been written by others and which they find 
some way to take offence to.

5. A dangerous saboteur who typically hides for many years behind niceness 
and pretence, before striking a true leader when the leader appears to be under 
attack.




WARNING to future founders: When you found any organisation or entity in this 
world, be clear about the inviolable rights your organisation shall protect and 
perhaps enshrine these in a "bro-CoC" code of conduct, such as:

 - the right to free speech

 - the right to challenge anyone at any time, on their actions and/or their 
words

 - the right to offend people with truths which they may find confronting

 - the right to speak your mind and your opinion (presumably "modulo is it 
lawful in the list administrator's jurisdiction")

 - the right to "be an ass" when you're having a bad day, and that this may 
never be held as a ground for your dismissal or expulsion or demotion or etc

 - the right to joust, verbally, yet vigorously, with anyone at any time


It is important to enshrine your bro-CoC, because if you don't, then saboteurs 
pretending to be snowflakes, or pretending to protect snowflakes, shall 
eventually damage both you and your organisation by introducing a snow-CoC.

Also consider ways to clandestinely determine the loyalty of those who proclaim 
to be your "friend" and/or "supporter".

Good luck - and may your eyes be open!

Re: list of people censored on lists.debian.org

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:26:27AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 14/03/2020 14:17, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > Hi Daniel,
> > your ongoing battle appears to be staunch, humorous, challenging, 
> > depressing, and uplifting all at the same time.  We feel for ya.
> 
> Thanks for your feedback
> 
> I'm not an LWN subscriber so I can neither see nor comment on the thread
> you mentioned.

I emailed you a copy.


> But from the title, I derived this:
> https://danielpocock.com/handling-attacks-on-volunteers-and-their-families/

Damn bro, thank you so much for sharing your story!

These lines:

.. "People tried to give me orders about what I can and can't tell the 
community who elected me to represent them."

.. "If you have any doubts about this, you can check the DM keyring log, 
why would they move me to the DM keyring if I had done anything that would 
remotely justify an expulsion? Anybody on the DM keyring can still upload all 
of their packages.  In what kind of organization do you expel or fire somebody 
and still keep asking them to do stuff for you like that?"

.. [from a linked email] "Ian, How can you consider post hoc evidence 
gathering and justification to be ethical?"


just absolutely nails it for me!


Again, thank you for sharing, and thank you for your living of your principles!

It is clear to many that not only Debian, but many other places in FLOSS land 
have been overrun by petty Nazis, and fragile snowflake like ones in particular.


> > I'm wondering if you ever subscribed to the cypherpunks mailing list last 
> > year?  It's a small community, but passionate, and at least so far as the 
> > law allows, uncensored.
> > 
> > If it floats yer boat, perhaps join the rest of us outcast n.ggers at the 
> > cypherpunks corral ;)
> 
> It sounds interesting but the biggest challenge for me is always to
> serve the users.  That's what being a real Debian Developer is about, it
> is written in the Debian Social Contract, point #4.
> 
> With users in mind, I'm working on some tools to neutralize harassment
> and abuse, for example, a Mozilla Thunderbird MailExtensions plugin for
> adding the BCC and List-* headers to each message.  Then, if somebody
> feels they have been harassed by a list admin, they can continue
> participating in a conversation with minimum inconvenience.
> 
> 
> > At the moment no easy answers have presented themselves,
> 
> but there are some good answers that require a little bit of work.  That
> is what I'm working on, that is why it is taking some time.


Sounds like a useful tool.


> > In any case, I've no doubt many are very proud of you, and of the posts you 
> > have no doubt "inspired", hint hint, nudge nudge, and a few of which have 
> > been leaked to the public (and to my very grateful eyes just now) by LWN:
> > 
> >   Handling attacks on a community
> >   https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/
> > 
> > ..  It is not hard to find examples of the kinds of messages that are 
> > being targeted (e.g. here, here, here, and here for fairly recent examples).
> > 
> > [Snowflake trigger warning, the next 4 messages may well trigger you if 
> > you are a CoC-wielding, wilting snowflake.]
> > 
> > delegation for the Anti-Anti-Harassment team
> > 
> > https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/D8yjhiI1gZEt8XLHtzQI8NuwVViFQYh3UNoa7FtSy4zrYhnxbcRzorRBnWCOpPZbSO2ebmHC3xsuctHdpVtXMuVgj80vOwaMjr2PpDdx23U=@protonmail.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > access an independent, uncensored version of Planet Debian
> > 
> > https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/959afc2e-a0ae-bbdc-14bc-3d0b93de8903@debian.community/
> 
> 
> That particular link is not trolling, debian.community is simply an
> independent news site.  Being independent, it is only natural that it
> will cover the issues that official newsletters will sidestep.  It is
> 100% transparent, as explained on the About page.


No doubt this "100% transparency" is one of the reasons -some- folks don't like 
it :)


> > Outreachy favouritism and wasted Debian money
> > 
> > https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/H3wJbOsvVY23EsMR7o0Y20StUbTWCkBFYV5KKlhez1xxWXyPnrd0Sr7Zxr_okyeIuEsADHXRhM-juXVUamswjXU70tCVXEpGIPNHkb4o3jY=@protonmail.com/
> > 
> > are Debian mentors nuts? the DebConf scandal
> > 
> > https://lwn.net/ml/debian-project/ea-mime-5e072373-6227-653ea...@www-2.mailo.com/
> > 
> > It is also clear that many participants on the mailing list have 
> > concluded who is behind at least some of the anonymous/pseudonymous 
> > attacks: Daniel Pocock. In fact, Pocock was the subject of a different 
> > message from Hartman on debian-project; while he did not directly connect 
> > the dots between the messages and his action expelling Pocock from the 
> > Debian project entirely, it is hard not to come to the conclusion that the 
> > two are related.
> > ...
> 
> 
> Concluded?  How do they reach that conclusion?

I don't know.


> What you describe is
> witch hunting, the stuff people did in the stone age 

Re: It's an Ill Wind

[Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH]

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 2:18 AM grarpamp  wrote:
> On 3/14/20, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH  wrote:
> > Uh, no, they're only not quarantining or taking other measures. That
> > is not the same as "trying to infect"
> >
> > Some of your analysis is OK, but this statement is false. I don't hear
> > of government agents with spray bottles of viral concoctins chasing
> > down their subjects on the streets, or invading their homes, in order
> > to infect them.
>
> Governments murder people all the time, literally on news every day.
> Doesn't matter whether it's via spy poison dart umbrella,
> spraying humancide from a lorry in the streets,
> carpet bombing the "enemy",
> shooting sleepy people,
> stealing and starving them to death,
> etc.
>
> Rest assured, if govt has a gameable angle on plague,
> they're going to leverage it. History full of game examples.

Indeed yes, but not in this case. Accuracy in speech and thought is
the desideratum, and Peter failed to meet it.

Kurt

Re: It's an Ill Wind

[Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH]

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 2:18 AM grarpamp  wrote:
>
> On 3/14/20, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH  wrote:
> > Uh, no, they're only not quarantining or taking other measures. That
> > is not the same as "trying to infect"
> >
> > Some of your analysis is OK, but this statement is false. I don't hear
> > of government agents with spray bottles of viral concoctins chasing
> > down their subjects on the streets, or invading their homes, in order
> > to infect them.
>
> Governments murder people all the time, literally on news every day.
> Doesn't matter whether it's via spy poison dart umbrella,
> spraying humancide from a lorry in the streets,
> carpet bombing the "enemy",
> shooting sleepy people,
> stealing and starving them to death,
> etc.
>
> Rest assured, if govt has a gameable angle on plague,
> they're going to leverage it. History full of game examples.

Re: It's an Ill Wind

[Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH]

On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 8:55 PM Peter Fairbrother  wrote:
>
> On 15/03/2020 02:46, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH wrote:
>
> The point of government is to prevent crime,
> > not tragedy.
>
> There I must disagree. The point of government is precisely to prevent
> tragedy.
>
> As in protection against invasion by foreign hordes, or for that matter
> viruses.

I slightly misspoke - the mission of government is to prosecute crime,
not prevent it, because ultimately prevention is impossible.

But here we see the problem with your scope of government - everything
unfortunate becomes defined as a tragedy, and therefore legitimizes
all government intrusion into the private sphere.

War, that is, invasion by a foreign power, is a species of crime.
Illness is not.

Kurt

Crypto AG: US Spies Kept Quiet on Assassinations

[John Young]

https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram/archives/2020/0315.html#cg15


More on Crypto AG

[2020.03.06] 
One follow-on to the story of 
Crypto 
AG being owned by the CIA: 
this 
interview with a Washington Post reporter. The whole thing is worth 
reading or listening to, but I was struck by these two quotes at the end:


...in South America, for instance, many of the governments that were 
using Crypto machines were engaged in assassination campaigns. 
Thousands of people were being disappeared, killed. And I mean, 
they're using Crypto machines, which suggests that the United States 
intelligence had a lot of insight into what was happening. And it's 
hard to look back at that history now and see a lot of evidence of 
the United States going to any real effort to stop it or at least or 
even expose it.


[...]

To me, the history of the Crypto operation helps to explain how U.S. 
spy agencies became accustomed to, if not addicted to, global 
surveillance. This program went on for more than 50 years, monitoring 
the communications of more than 100 countries. I mean, the United 
States came to expect that kind of penetration, that kind of global 
surveillance capability. And as Crypto became less able to deliver 
it, the United States turned to other ways to replace that. And the 
Snowden documents tell us a lot about how they did that.

Re: It's an Ill Wind

[grarpamp]

On 3/14/20, Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH  wrote:
> Uh, no, they're only not quarantining or taking other measures. That
> is not the same as "trying to infect"
>
> Some of your analysis is OK, but this statement is false. I don't hear
> of government agents with spray bottles of viral concoctins chasing
> down their subjects on the streets, or invading their homes, in order
> to infect them.

Governments murder people all the time, literally on news every day.
Doesn't matter whether it's via spy poison dart umbrella,
spraying humancide from a lorry in the streets,
carpet bombing the "enemy",
shooting sleepy people,
stealing and starving them to death,
etc.

Rest assured, if govt has a gameable angle on plague,
they're going to leverage it. History full of game examples.

Re: It's an Ill Wind

[grarpamp]

On 3/14/20, Peter Fairbrother  wrote:
> The point of government is precisely to prevent
> ...
> tragedy
> ...
> invasion by foreign hordes
> ...
> viruses

Track record of history appears to suggest some fair
number of both facts and correlations that governments
have not only failed at substantively limiting,
but consistently participate in, such things.
Perhaps quite to the point of them being moot.

Re: It's an Ill Wind

[grarpamp]

On 3/14/20, John Young  wrote:
> Deft analysis. Positive infection salutory to
> clear out senior royal and political and
> governmental and  military and finance and spies
> and media and intellectual and celebrities and
> predators and environmental damagers and drug
> pushers, allowing angelic ethical fair-minded
> under-60s to take over the reliquaries in hazmat
> gear without guillotining, merely shovel the
> disinfected carcasses into the Thames to be
> encased in plastic waste and frozen into revived
> icelands. Until boarded by circumnavigating polar
> bears with plastic sails sniffing fresh meat down south.

Said skew in age distribution of deaths a quite
interesting game regarding herd of geriatric population
making up overloaded imbalance across most governments.
Then the stories of which moles shook who's global hands.
Could result in massive wipeouts and unpredictable
political change within such bodies. Already started
are post-scourge reworking projects to "stress test"
and prepare their own assemblies for next one.
This bug hardly nasty enough, seemingly not design
or ops limited to governments as Anthrax, and govts already
sequestered their dastardly bodies in continuance plans,
ready to roll out fresh propaganda when Corona clears.

Corona2, will it be the maker of wind, an ill flatulence upon the earth.

>>2- It's an Ill Wind
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XRc389TvG8

This doesn't sound legal

[Ryan Carboni]

This doesn't sound legal.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120321123520/http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/torture/interviews/cloonan.html
Ultimately, we ended up talking to bin Laden's first trainer, Ali
Mohammed, Ali Abdul Saud Mohammed, who is currently in jail. He taught
bin Laden. In one of the first training classes that Ali Mohammed
conducted was Sheikh bin Laden; Ayman al-Zawahiri; Abd al-Rahim
al-Nashiri, who's chief of military operations at the time; Saif
al-Adel, who's still one of the 22 most wanted fugitives, and others.
... What he tells us and what he did would make the hair on the back
of your head stand up. This is the type of stuff, again, that we dealt
with in the usual setting that the bureau found themselves in, in ...
a regular interview, because each one of these defendants, if you
will, had legal representation.

And those lawyers played a very vital role in gaining their subjects'
cooperation with the United States government. Each one of them was
seduced by our legal system that many people poke fun at, thinks
cumbersome. If you could listen to these guys, and they'll tell you --
I'm referring to Al Qaeda members -- "You mean to tell me that the
United States government will give me the legal representation?"
"Correct." "You mean to tell me that if I cooperate with you, that you
will at least possibly protect me against retaliation?" "Yes." "You
mean that you could unite me with my family?" "Yes."