Re: [ot][personal] cult reading notes

[\0xDynamite]

Why are you posting here?

mark

On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 10:16 AM Undiscussed Groomed for Male Slavery,
One Victim of Many
 wrote:
>
> as i get farther into the cult book, i understand the importance of
> writing down what you agree, disagree, or want to look more into, as
> the author says to do.
>
> it is so rare to hear somebody talking about what the book talks
> about, and it engages my experiences when done, that i can forget the
> things i disagree about with the author entirely and begin believing
> whatever he says.
>
> ch3:
>
> - i so much agree with BITE. nobody ever says this. systematic control
> of Behavior, Information, Thoughts and Emotions. [confused: BITE must
> mean how we are eating people's spirits like zombies eating brains.]
>
> - i don't think it's clear to call all influence groups cults when
> cults inspire images of people in robes worshiping dead animals, not
> really a huge thing
>
> - i disagree that meditation with belief in eventual levitation or
> flying is harmful. i believe this is a good thing, without destructive
> attributes itself, to give people inspiration to spend time becoming
> more thoughtful. i do not mind that popular science believes that
> levitation does not happen from pensation: many people hold belief
> systems that have disparity with popular science, and use this as
> reason for prayer or dedicated behavior. i have no trouble considering
> that this belief is _used_ harmfully by some people.
> i think personally i see the belief as an analogy to how, when you
> meditate well and long enough, you begin seeing more and more things
> that others do not ever see: things you can do, reasons people do
> things, etc etc. this seems it could become a similar super power to
> flying. personally, i found i develop a comparable feeling to flying
> when i gain mastery over my body like with skilled free running.
>
> - MOVE is mentioned as an example of a cult. it was an activism group
> for black people. given MOVE was so politically targeted that most
> members were killed by the police, it seems far more likely that the
> political targeting (and disreputating messaging) was engaging in any
> destructive influence than the group. counter ref 62
>
> - similarly i am of course skeptical that a democratic workers
> collective would be a destructive cult, and worry some around
> political harm in the label; workers collectives have been repeatedly
> targeted, sometimes killed en masse by corporations or governments, in
> our nation's and global history. counter ref 64
>
> fragment: pierce told me "some of us are felons, some of us have
> families." i mentioned worrying about being tracked with my phone to
> pierce. he had me turn it on, and then suddenly cory visited, and
> spoke to me about the red and the blue. he lay down on the floor next
> to pierce's bed, just waiting. we had an intuitive conversation where
> he would wait and be silent before each thing he said. [sarah said a
> fragment of an expression to me, as if people were saying things that
> only made sense if all taken together as parts of the same sentence]
> finished writing fragment 2022-08-20 1033 [the interaction seemed very 
> influential and strange. cory would often say he "was just happy to be 
> involved". he said he had come off a long hiking trail, but lived as a 
> homeless person who never left the city. i was in an intense state of mind, 
> near the end of behaving with strong intuition. i think i had taken a jesus 
> emblem with me, and showed a text message to sarah on my phone.]
>
> - farther along, the author says that a concern around worrying about
> mind control is that everything can be seen as mind control, as if
> this is a struggle normal people have. i have also been exposed to
> this belief. it is not normal at all. where did it come from?
>
> - further: it seems reasonable to say that the only reason it would be
> unclear whether a group is destructive or non-destructive, after
> observing it, would be due to influence preventing this clarity.
> clearly this clarity is needed badly.
>
> - in the section regarding childhood sexual abuse, which explains how
> learned phobias produce an environment for repeat abuse, i became
> worried for a friend i love, who was sexually abused as a child. this
> worry shortly became numb and hidden for me, and is hard for me to
> consider now.
>
> - "Put a person into a situation where his senses are overloaded with
> non-coherent information, and the mind will go "numb" as a protective
> mechanism. It gets confused and overwhelmed, and critical faculties no
> longer work properly. It is in this weakened state that people become
> very open to suggestion."
>
> - i'm thinking of how my influence seemed to me to pretend to be the
> things i was passionate about, kind of starting off with offering a
> "deal" that if i "really wanted to get involved" i would need to do
> this or that
>
> - somewhat uncomfortable around the recommendation of 

Re: On Revolution...

[\0xDynamite]

> Most human beings have an almost infinite capacity for taking
> things for granted... most men and women will grow up to
> love their servitude and will never dream of revolution.
> -- Aldous Huxley, Brave New World

The solution to this Truth is to make things harder for these addicts.
Hmmm, I wonder what hackers could do...

\0xd

Re: Most coding is not innovative, novel, nor ground breaking

[\0xDynamite]

Most cooking is not innovative, novel, or groundbreaking, yet it
serves everyone.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 12:29 AM Undiscussed Horrific Abuse, One Victim
& Survivor of Many  wrote:
>
> A reply some time ago linked to an old post regarding a "coderpunks"
> list but it looked like it was simply a brief mention of an idea, not
> an actual list?
>
> But of course there are scads of dev lists out there.

Re: Ms. Leah Wald needs killing ( My 200$ USD )

[\0xDynamite]

I'm fine with the assassination politics and all, but can we keep
anything further off cypherpunks mailing list.  Go make a list called
assinate-l, or something.

\0xD

On 9/19/21, professor rat  wrote:
> Cypherpunk Holdings Appoints Director - The Kingston Whig Standard
> The Kingston Whig-Standard
> (CSE: HODL) (OTC Pink: KHRIF) (the “Company” or “Cypherpunk“), is pleased to
> announce that Ms. Leah Wald has been appointed to the Board of
> Directors ...
>
> Those who steal must pay.
>

Re: Bytes

[\0xDynamite]

>> The world's problems have been solved.  Like John Lennon said:  it's
>> there when you want it.  Find the 12-step plan for overhauling America
>> on Mark Janssen (yes, myself) Facebook
>
> I tried this.  Typing "Mark Janssen" into Facebook gives on an experience
> of profile pictures of different people named "Mark Janssen" where you can
> keep scrolling the browser and never seem to hit the end of them.

Sorry, Karl.  Try adding Gothenburg, Nebraska or some subset of that.

> wall.  For example, why would
>> the world's coal and oi (or any part of the commonwealth)l belong to a
>> private enterprise?  The people should anaylze it's true value, tax it
>> at that rate (or half), and then consume it all they want -- they
>> presumeably won't consume it unless they're making equal or greater
>> value than they spent.  The public revenue can be used to provide free
>> public transport from the savings of all the privately-owned vehicles
>> which will be off the road.  Saving enomrous amounts of land real
>> estate, public road maintenance, and meter or other enforcement.  It's
>> a no-brainer.
>
> So how do we include the powerholders?

The powerholders aren't excluded.

mark

Re: Bytes

[\0xDynamite]

>> > The string has a zero at its third byte but not its 4th, which is quite
>> > rare.
>>
>> This is why I stopped trying to figure it out.  Even a ROT-13 wouldn't
>> have a ascii 0 or any ascii codes above 127.  It must be noise or some
>> bigger encryption than I'm willing to work for just to be led down the
>> rabbit hole of some movie venture or some shit.
>
> There are some pretty big supercomputers out there.  It would be great to
> know how we can contribute to solving all the world's problems rather than
> scanning blockchains to see if any addresses or transactions have a wild
> byte filled in.

The world's problems have been solved.  Like John Lennon said:  it's
there when you want it.  Find the 12-step plan for overhauling America
on Mark Janssen (yes, myself) Facebook wall.  For example, why would
the world's coal and oi (or any part of the commonwealth)l belong to a
private enterprise?  The people should anaylze it's true value, tax it
at that rate (or half), and then consume it all they want -- they
presumeably won't consume it unless they're making equal or greater
value than they spent.  The public revenue can be used to provide free
public transport from the savings of all the privately-owned vehicles
which will be off the road.  Saving enomrous amounts of land real
estate, public road maintenance, and meter or other enforcement.  It's
a no-brainer.

-m

> It's fucked up that mediation is taken as unworkable when millions of
> people are dying and struggling every day, both near and far.  Meanwhile we
> have computers that can convince millions of people of arbitrary beliefs:
> gee, you think war has a solution now?
>
> The hash leads to a linked list of change addresses that eventually
> describe how we need to talk and listen rationally about our issues and
> share the means for solving them, or all of society will collapse as the
> secrets of powerholders spread unchecked.
>
>>
>

Re: Bytes

[\0xDynamite]

\> Honestly this is a total nerd snipe for me because I have amnesia and
> inhibition around all my nerdy knowledge.
>
> Google says the string was shared by JA in 2015 - which is after the mass
> deception started growing - and somebody else replied with a similar
> string.
>
> The string has a zero at its third byte but not its 4th, which is quite
> rare.

This is why I stopped trying to figure it out.  Even a ROT-13 wouldn't
have a ascii 0 or any ascii codes above 127.  It must be noise or some
bigger encryption than I'm willing to work for just to be led down the
rabbit hole of some movie venture or some shit.

mark

Re: Bytes

[\0xDynamite]

That's not an ascii string text

-m

On 7/24/21, grarpamp  wrote:
> 62f50063cf2f4be935275032e13394e4857c232b
>

Re: Cryptocurrency: The Miracle Cure for the Medical Firewall

[\0xDynamite]

On 7/3/21, grarpamp  wrote:
>> Obviously we need doctors because they're our channel to extensive
>> scientific research and medical lab tests like mris, xrays, eegs, pet
>> scans.  Those things are all behind huge financial walls.
>> if you want to get tested for rare and very dangerous pollutants
>
> Cryptocurrency solves all these legacy walls.
>
> Now you can crowdfund all such machines and research as desired.

Bad idea.  The continuance of Big Medicine is leading to the downfall
of the human race as it gets dependent on such institutionalized
solutions.  Remember we've survived without it.  If people are so
worried about their health, they could bust ass and fix their diseased
society, couldn't they?

Marxos

Re: Assassination Politics

[\0xDynamite]

On 11/28/20, grarpamp  wrote:
>> https://augur.net

That platform looks very cool.  Just the kind of thing Jim Bell was
looking for.  Betting for anything you want.  I wonder how they
calculate the odds?

marxos

Re: Chloroquine is "highly effective" at inhibiting reproduction of Novel Coronavirus nCov in cell culture.

[\0xDynamite]

> You're still forgetting THE most important thing about all of this.
> And it's been true for every viral disease in history.  In fact, it's
> the only way the virus gets authority over a larger organism
>
> As long as you are within a diseased society, be it from lack of
> Truth, responsibility, or effort from the humans of it, the virus will
> over-power you, EVENTUALLY, and/or at some time.

It has come to my attention, that my use of the capital letter "T"
above for truth is a problem for some.  While it must be true that
such truth must be established by fiat somewhere, for the
uni/multiverse cannot privilege one thing over another, it is a
practical truism that believing such a concept exists is essential.
Water may ultimately float in empty space, for example, but on Earth,
within society, there must be a vessel that can contain the water (for
the sake of life's continuity) and that vessel is called Belief.
Given postmodern aesthetics of "nothing absolute", the water must also
be considered to evaporate or disappear into other dimensions and
become worthless to our purposes HERE of actual LIFE.

Thank you for your understanding on the Matter, for order must be
considered more important to our biology than chaos, and this little
asymmetry is our ticket to existence, or at least the ability to
remember to have existed at all.  Thank you.

Marcos

Re: Chloroquine is "highly effective" at inhibiting reproduction of Novel Coronavirus nCov in cell culture.

[\0xDynamite]

You're still forgetting THE most important thing about all of this.
And it's been true for every viral disease in history.  In fact, it's
the only way the virus gets authority over a larger organism

As long as you are within a diseased society, be it from lack of
Truth, responsibility, or effort from the humans of it, the virus will
over-power you, EVENTUALLY, and/or at some time.

Inject that.

Marcos

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 5:43 PM jim bell  wrote:
>
> https://newshourfirst.com/2021/01/30/44-americans-are-dead-facebook-and-american-journal-of-medicine-admit-their-stand-on-hcq-was-wrong/?utm_campaign=shareaholic_medium=reddit_source=news
>
> Note:   Hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine are not precisely the same; they 
> are closely related, however.
>
>
> The following is what I told people nearly one year ago:
>
>
> On Saturday, February 8, 2020, 09:18:29 PM PST, jim bell  
> wrote:
>
>
> [chloroquine is an old-line drug typically used against malaria]
> [partial quote follows]
>
> https://www.asbmb.org/asbmb-today/science/020620/could-an-old-malaria-drug-help-fight-the-new-coron
>
> ASBMB Today Science Could an old malaria drug help fight the new coronavirus?
> Could an old malaria drug
> help fight the new coronavirus?
> By John Arnst
> February 06, 2020
>
> Chloroquine might be getting new life as an antiviral treatment for the novel 
> coronavirus that emerged in Wuhan, China in late 2019 and has infected some 
> 25,000 people in more than 25 countries. For decades, the drug was a 
> front-line treatment and prophylactic for malaria.
>
> In a three-page paper published Tuesday in Cell Research, scientists at the 
> Wuhan Institute of Virology’s State Key Laboratory of Virology write that 
> both chloroquine and the antiviral remdesivir were, individually, “highly 
> effective” at inhibiting replication of the novel coronavirus in cell 
> culture. Their drug screen evaluated five other drugs that were not 
> effective. The authors could not be reached for comment.
>
>
> Though the paper is brief, John Lednicky, a professor at the University of 
> Florida’s Emerging Pathogens Institute, found its results intriguing. “It’s 
> interesting in that it really lacks a lot of details but, nevertheless, if 
> you look at the data as presented, at least in vitro, it seems like 
> chloroquine can be used as an early-stage drug,” he said. “It would be very 
> good if these types of experiments were repeated by more laboratories to see 
> whether the same results occur across the board.”
>
> Chloroquine is a synthetic form of quinine, a compound found in the bark of 
> cinchona trees native to Peru and used for centuries to treat malaria.
>
> Chloroquine was an essential element of mass drug administration campaigns to 
> combat malaria throughout the second half of the 20th century, and remains 
> one of the World Health Organization’s essential medicines. However, after 
> the malaria parasites Plasmodium falciparum and Plasmodium vivax began 
> exhibiting resistance to the drug in the 1960s and 1980s, respectively, it 
> was replaced by similar antimalarial compounds and combination therapies. 
> Chloroquine is still widely used against the three other species of 
> plasmodium and to treat autoimmune disorders and some cases of amebiasis, an 
> intestinal infection caused by the amoeba Entamoeba histolytica.
>
> Chloroquine’s antiviral properties were explored in the mid-1990s against HIV 
> and in the following decade against severe acute respiratory syndrome, or 
> SARS, which is closely related to the novel coronavirus. In 2004, researchers 
> in Belgium found that chloroquine inhibited replication of SARS in cell 
> culture. The following year, however, another team at Utah State University 
> and the Chinese University of Hong Kong evaluated a gamut of compounds 
> against SARS replication in mice infected with the virus, finding that 
> chloroquine was only effective as an anti-inflammatory agent. They 
> recommended that it could be used in combination with compounds that prevent 
> replication. Nevertheless, in 2009, the Belgian group found that lethal 
> infections of human coronavirus OC43, a relative of SARS, could be averted in 
> newborn mice by administering chloroquine through the mother’s milk.
>
> [end of partial quote]
>
> Also:
>
> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41422-020-0282-0
>
>
> Remdesivir and chloroquine effectively inhibit the recently emerged novel 
> coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in vitro
> Manli Wang, Ruiyuan Cao, Leike Zhang, Xinglou Yang, Jia Liu, Mingyue Xu, 
> Zhengli Shi, Zhihong Hu, Wu Zhong & Gengfu Xiao
>
> Cell Research (2020)Cite this article
>
> 171k Accesses
>
> 1108 Altmetric
>
> Metrics
> details
>
> Dear Editor,
>
> In December 2019, a novel pneumonia caused by a previously unknown pathogen 
> emerged in Wuhan, a city of 11 million people in central China. The initial 
> cases were linked to exposures in a seafood market in Wuhan.1 As of January 
> 27, 2020, 

Re: Predictions for 2021?

[\0xDynamite]

Good news.  The timeline is running backwards.  After the soul
answered one of the main questions for the planetary transition, it
turned around and returned.  Now you can do that just by believing it
is 2019.

Happy new year!  Because you were probably never there before!

Marcos

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 12:52 PM Cecilia Tanaka
 wrote:
>
> I would like to cancel my subscription to 2021, please.  Already experienced 
> the 10 days trial and I am not interested.  :(
>
> Someone with better perspectives and/or realistic news for this year?  :)
>
> Late Happy New Year wishes to each one of you, even to those who want my 
> death.  Nah, give up.  Not now, not this year, hahaha!!!  :D

Re: Fudging the State of Humanity

[\0xDynamite]

You know the nursery rhyme "ring around the rosie (the center of the
soul which completed the journey of knowledge), pocket full of posies
(world peace intentions), ashes ashes we all fall down."?  Well, this
is what happened.

We'll have to rise back up, like the legend of the Pheonix, but not
everyone will deserve to come back.  Double your efforts at these four
corners:
1. Earth stewardship with Native Americans
2. Virtuous democracy with novus ordo seclorum plan of YHVH
3. Save kids future by correcting all of the economic subsidies that
happened with fossil fuels.
4. Help me, ADAM/MARCOS, because many raped the soul through your
disobedience, passivity, and drugs (street and medical).  The
renaissance may correct some of this by propagating forward from
history "magically".  But I'm the one that held the center which was
united for planetary shift.

\0xD

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 7:17 AM Karl  wrote:
>
> Hey Marxos,
>
> Feel free to break in and connect as soon as you disagree about
> something I say here.
>
> I was thinking about how the development of the human body is similar
> to the shape of our cultures, next to these ideas of government
> surveillance and artificial intelligence.
>
> Looking at how oppression is collecting and moving, including recent
> surprising shapes, it seems pretty clear a group of people are trying
> to decide that they are the brains of the earth, and want others to
> move to their willpower.  This is something that is hard for me to
> hold and believe, because of what I've been through.
>
> Since it's a struggle, obviously whoever is most determined about
> their part in it, hasn't reached their goals yet.  We could maybe
> infer from the booms of global disruption, a little about how those
> struggles are moving along among the people who want to dominate.
>
> Personally I don't believe that there will be a human global dictator,
> in the long term.  I don't have any religious training.
>
> What are your thoughts?

Re: DECRYPT - becoming human

[\0xDynamite]

> > There is no government that is so perfect as to not allow some portion
> > of monies and holdings to be petitionable and used by the People.
>
> Quite an interesting concept.
>
> Here and there, many utopian community attempts have been gifted land by a 
> wealthy or land-holding benefactor, and such experiment in community begins 
> again.
>
> They have (almost?) always failed - and from internal reasons, not "external 
> govt clamp down", notwithstanding the Wacos...

It's true, because none of them had as sophisticated set of principles
and balance of power as the Constitution already.  I've adapted, in
fact, the Constitution to this end at appropedia.org, which hopefully
you can find, if interested.  Things like doubling the term if a
person gets re-elected and reverting to the original term if they
don't -- a self-organizing government that requires no oversight from
above.

marxos

Re: DECRYPT - becoming human

[\0xDynamite]

Darn, For #4, I meant that the droid must be reprogrammable to admit a
new Owner in its own settings, whereby the droid is required to follow
instructions of its Owner until the other conditions change this.

It may or may not be wise to program them with the laws of robotics,
if Man's laws and these are in effect.  After all, someone bought the
droid, it shouldn't necessarily spend it's time/energy or risk it's
hardware for someone else's life.

Marxos


On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 6:54 PM \0xDynamite  wrote:
>
> >  But I remain optimistic. Time and time again the anarchist way of 
> > organizing proves itself superior.
>
> This will remain true until we have a space we can call our own.
> Every government should reserve 1-10% of their land and budget for
> "anarchic" experiments where the people. not the government. can make
> new communities that perhaps are even exempt from law -- if they can
> keep it on their own turf.
>
> There is no government that is so perfect as to not allow some portion
> of monies and holdings to be petitionable and used by the People.
>
> > The *Cypherpunk 2027* is another exercise in that. Six years at full warp 
> > and we could bring the singularity forward, institute global cryptoanarchy 
> > and anticipate intelligent machines passing any test.
> > Tomorrow belongs to us.
>
> Yeah, it is actually ready.  I don't know how anyone else knows this,
> but consider these rules for androids:
>
> To balance the power of the androids and Man.  Any android, free roaming;
> 1. must have an (manufacturer and model) identification printed
> visibly on its unit and/or queryable by voice.
> 2. remains the property of its owner until 1) it breaks a law, 2)
> becomes inoperative without the custody of the owner.
> 3. In the event of the former it must be remanded to the Police (where
> laws can determine what fine or otherwise towards the owner or
> manufacturer), or if the latter, the droid can be taken custody by any
> Person.
> 4. If the robot does not have #1, it may be taken by any Person, along
> with any risks that may entail.
> 4. If a person takes custody from #2, they may query about its present
> Owner and negotiate a reward, or become the *new* owner of the
> (potentially expensive) droid and be subject to the same limits as
> above.
> 5.  Anyone who deliberately injures a droid to take custody shall be
> guilty of regular property damage or theft.
>
> Anything missing?
>
> Marxos
>
> Marxos

Re: DECRYPT - becoming human

[\0xDynamite]

>  But I remain optimistic. Time and time again the anarchist way of organizing 
> proves itself superior.

This will remain true until we have a space we can call our own.
Every government should reserve 1-10% of their land and budget for
"anarchic" experiments where the people. not the government. can make
new communities that perhaps are even exempt from law -- if they can
keep it on their own turf.

There is no government that is so perfect as to not allow some portion
of monies and holdings to be petitionable and used by the People.

> The *Cypherpunk 2027* is another exercise in that. Six years at full warp and 
> we could bring the singularity forward, institute global cryptoanarchy and 
> anticipate intelligent machines passing any test.
> Tomorrow belongs to us.

Yeah, it is actually ready.  I don't know how anyone else knows this,
but consider these rules for androids:

To balance the power of the androids and Man.  Any android, free roaming;
1. must have an (manufacturer and model) identification printed
visibly on its unit and/or queryable by voice.
2. remains the property of its owner until 1) it breaks a law, 2)
becomes inoperative without the custody of the owner.
3. In the event of the former it must be remanded to the Police (where
laws can determine what fine or otherwise towards the owner or
manufacturer), or if the latter, the droid can be taken custody by any
Person.
4. If the robot does not have #1, it may be taken by any Person, along
with any risks that may entail.
4. If a person takes custody from #2, they may query about its present
Owner and negotiate a reward, or become the *new* owner of the
(potentially expensive) droid and be subject to the same limits as
above.
5.  Anyone who deliberately injures a droid to take custody shall be
guilty of regular property damage or theft.

Anything missing?

Marxos

Marxos

Re: DECRYPT - becoming human

[\0xDynamite]

> Litecoin replaces XRP ( Ripple ) as forth biggest crypto-currency.

LOL.  So this is what happens when you limit production of your
currency.  You created artificial scarcity and now there are four
different varieties of digital cash.  All incompatible, of course.
Oh, unless you set up a bureau to overlook things.  recreating the
banking system.  ROFL.

I told you what to do with this jackasses.  Stop trying to compete
with "fiat" currency and make a new kind of money system with the
internet.

Someday the passions of youth will be channelled into valuable work.

Marxos

Re: UN invitation for Cypherpunks

[\0xDynamite]

Here's the thing.  Sure, there's a danger in presenting a large Truth,
but so what?  It's only a danger to those who hold onto smaller truths
or, nay, opinions and beliefs.  How will you gather forces for
revolution around your little truths?

Secularism has a place, for sure.  Don't get me wrong.  I love secular
values, but it must be admitted that secular humanism has been a
abject failure for people like the Native Americans, the poor, people
under psychic attacks that medicine doesn't understand (which include
most cancers) -- they've made problems far worse and as bad as ANY
religion.  PROVE ME WRONG.

Marxos

On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 2:18 PM \0xDynamite  wrote:
>
> Karl wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 11:41 AM professor rat  wrote:
> > > If there was a God called " Truth " it would have to be destroyed. Such 
> > > is the rapid-evolutionary way.  Secularism today - secularism tomorrow - 
> > > secularism forever.
> > > No Gods - no masters - no bullshit.
> > > Peace on earth will come soon enough when all crypto-munitions are 
> > > managed by the UN
> > >  ( United Networks )
> > > Cryptoanarchism means producer and consumer cooperatives freely 
> > > federating around the world. Religion and the state have been selected 
> > > for extinction, even as best-practice welfare-state measures will survive 
> > > as UBI from below.
> > > Power concedes nothing without the demand backed by realistic force. That 
> > > anarchist force is growing as we speak. Let the powers that be hate us so 
> > > long as they fear us. Since they won't listen to reason brute force is 
> > > authorized against every last one of these priests and police.
> > > Welcome to the globalized Darwinian revolution!
> > > Long live cryptoanarchy!
>
> To the new Truth!!
>
> Ahoy!
> Marxos

Re: UN invitation for Cypherpunks

[\0xDynamite]

Karl wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2020 at 11:41 AM professor rat  wrote:
> > If there was a God called " Truth " it would have to be destroyed. Such is 
> > the rapid-evolutionary way.  Secularism today - secularism tomorrow - 
> > secularism forever.
> > No Gods - no masters - no bullshit.
> > Peace on earth will come soon enough when all crypto-munitions are managed 
> > by the UN
> >  ( United Networks )
> > Cryptoanarchism means producer and consumer cooperatives freely federating 
> > around the world. Religion and the state have been selected for extinction, 
> > even as best-practice welfare-state measures will survive as UBI from below.
> > Power concedes nothing without the demand backed by realistic force. That 
> > anarchist force is growing as we speak. Let the powers that be hate us so 
> > long as they fear us. Since they won't listen to reason brute force is 
> > authorized against every last one of these priests and police.
> > Welcome to the globalized Darwinian revolution!
> > Long live cryptoanarchy!

To the new Truth!!

Ahoy!
Marxos

Re: UN invitation for Cypherpunks

[\0xDynamite]

> > I looked this up and it sounds like an oppressive regime is synonymous
> > with a government, punk.
>
> To speak plainly, I have experienced forceful mind control near
> difficulties with the united states government, and it's hard for me
> to talk and think about this.

Karl, it sounds like you might be a "mental body" (what some have
called "bots") in the system.  A mental body is a human potential
living inside a giant shibboleth -- a machine made and held by a shard
of GOD.  They are made by the beliefs of mankind that there are
actually people running the world.  You don't need therapy, you just
have to follow one of the stable Institutions that exist.  This
usually means either the State (the law), the Church (believe in
Jesus), Academia (believe in children or science), or the Corporation
(usually already assigned as an employee).   Alternatively, you can
believe in me, "Marcos", who got to the top of this world with the
crown of Man/Adam for the predicted planetary shift.  Don't look to
therapists to tell you these things, because most of them don't have
sufficient experience in life to be guiding anyone.

Cheers!

\0xD, aka Marxos.

Re: UN invitation for Cypherpunks

[\0xDynamite]

> In Occupy we finally collaborated for a few months.  We welcomed the
> powerholders to collaborate too, but instead of joining us, they
> seemed to send people to spy on us and use what they learned to
> further harm such efforts.

The truth is that there's really no boogey-men up there.  It's a
Wizard of Oz scenario, chaps.  Nothing more.  It talks big and carries
a big stick though, so you have to watch for that.

> Nowadays, there are a number of for example economic policies, that
> not only aid these wealthy people in controlling the planet, but also
> trend towards continuing the situation, even if they die, by replacing
> them with other people who emerge with similar values.

This seems to be a result of apathy amidst the intelligensia.  If they
had more Truth rather than opinions, they'd have plenty of power to
fix things.  For example, gasoline and other natural resources should
be taxed at every level of government so that the value of it goes
back to the people.  There's about $85/gal or more of value
($1/octane/gal) in each gallon.  Go measure it and compare it to what
a healthy, able-bodied person would consider that work to be worth if
used on something that advanced mankind.  A kilowatt-hour is also
worth about $50/kwh.  Since people are presumed to make value out of
the consumption of either, you can halve these figures for retail
price.  This one issue alone saves 50% of your problems.  Another 40%
is fixed by fixing your voting model (allowing yes and no votes) and
having smaller terms for lower-level governments so that the average
person feels empowered to be a leader of their government.  See
"fractional voting" on the wiki at hackerspaces.org.  You may have to
look under "everything" on the search page because queer poliltics has
co-opted the movement for a creative economy through hackerspaces and
buried it.

> People who used to participate in Occupy have been through a lot in
> the aftermath, and have trouble reconnecting with their original
> effort, and might be scared to do so.  But we also hold in our minds
> how wonderful it was, and yearn to have these discussions again.
> People who identify as activists, especially the jaded ones, have all
> experienced these things.  There are thousands and thousands of us,
> and we all have some different part of the visceral experience of the
> global corruption and deafness.

I know what you're talking about.  I participated in NYC and in Santa
Fe occupy.  You know what that "visceral feeling" is?  That you're
doing something for this world besides being a dumbass consumer.  What
they got wrong is that the issue of GOD couldn't just be swept under
the rug.  100% of queer politics was gaytheist, so went compeltely in
opposition to that other pov, which to millions has more proof than
monkeys.  Unfortunately, that pov also made the powers that hold
things above in the all-seeing-eye, so nothing got accomplished,
practically.  Lesson learned, hopefully:  that without Truth,
everything loses power, to the forces of evolution, you might say.

Anyway, still here in the ashes with the Phoenix.

Marcos

Re: Petition to President Trump to Declare Martial Law

[\0xDynamite]

> Petition of United States of America Elector(s) and others,
> to President Donald Trump to Declare Martial Law,
> and to Arrest and Charge Traitors, and to Command the Military
> to Conduct a Re-Election in Certain States

You don't want to do this.  For one, it won't really work.  If your
democracy is so diseased that the only way to get it functional is to
take control of the People, you have a SOCIETAL PROBLEM, not a legal
one.  Of course, the warning signs for that were long ago.  Try the
80s, when kids committed suicde, and then the 90s where it escalated
into stories of kids killing kids in school.

Do we need more law here?  No.  What you need here, after waving away
any concerns of insanity when you can't even tell what's true or
false, is Dr. Mark Janssen, aka "The Doctor", "ThePastor", "Capt.
Dynamite".

I feel like I'm in Ghostbusters.

Cheers,

Dr. Mark Janssen-Rosenblitt
Gothenburg, Nebraska

Re: Stupid cunt, Cecilia Tanaka, can't take a hint

[\0xDynamite]

> Code is Law, jerk.  Go coding and stop spamming this list.  Believe me, 
> coding will be much more useful than all the laws in the future.
>
> It will be beautiful to live in a world with much less (or none!) laws.  And 
> more music, more flowers, and innocent hugs.

Here's the problem, cici (is that okay to spell it that way?):  life
isn't free.  If no one paid back for anything that they got,
eventually life would run out and the soul would die.  It's called
entropy.  This has been happening lately in the
Judeo-christian-indo-arab soul, because of a botched planetary
transition.

Something to think about...

Mark

Re: Unvaccinated Children Are Healthier Than Vaccinated Children - peer reviewed studies - [ENJOY] [PEACE]

[\0xDynamite]

> Only a moron or a carpet munching rat would deny science.

Finally, some real science, instead of anecdotal "certainty" about
vaccines.  Those are some awesome graphs.  Pretty clear.  I hope that
the anti-anti-vaxxers who were complete, unscienfitic dipshits can now
shut the fuck up.

\0xD

Re: [not][a][joke]How To Kill the Right Wing

[\0xDynamite]

>> Given the political left, notably social justice, is stuffed full of people 
>> who honestly care about the political right, it is very revealing to see us 
>> targeted with so much overt messaging claiming we are trying to harm the 
>> political right.
>>
>> It is obvious that the political right would be stuffed full of people who 
>> honestly care about the political left, too.
>>
>> Can you spread this message, please?

The problem, Herr Karl, is the soul.  The soul cannot handle
contradictions.  It creates disease.  Postmodernism (invented to deal
with this problem) is not a solution and has, in its place, created
entropy of the soul:  depression not rooted to any event, rage on the
street, ungrounded anxieties, perhaps (mostly caused by medicine
actually).  The solution to unite these similar aims is to get your
shit together about what Truth is. Don't listen to loud-mouth
Punk-stasi who doesn't have any about it, who is just a member of a
different church called Evolution (which has only anecdotal evidence,
not proof -- about the same as the Christians of America).

Truth shall set you free, otherwise you will pay for your debts somehow.

\0xD

Re: Censorship: PC Crypuddle over Peterson's New Book

[\0xDynamite]

The guy's not wrong.  People are fucking confused and they want
validation for their systems, whether it's Christianity or Queer
politics.

Think about it.  The world is awash with identity politics:  monkey or
god-made is really the root of the thing.  When you don't have Truth,
you can be led ANYWHERE at all.  It's a type of witchcraft done by the
System.  It will tell you who you are, what the people believe in tell
you is the Right Thing, and give you comforts when your identity
politics breaks down.  Without Truth, your "immune system" of identity
can't fight back.  If doctors wouldn't have inserted needles into you,
your ancestors would have protected your identity, but you gave your
bodies away and now the System has it and tell you what is best for
you.

Wake the fuck up all you dumbasses who think you're enlightened about
the world but haven't solved a real problem:  you are exactly like
yoru enemy, with a false piety of Christians who think "if people just
believed in OUR religion" everything would be at peace.

GOD, what a bunch of idiots but you're my idiots, so I can't
really fault you.  Now get some of that pusy over here, so we can make
this shit smell better.

\0xD

On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 5:21 AM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
>
> Loly lols, rivers of snowflake tears:
>
> Adults literally crying over Jordan Peterson writing a book need
> more Jordan Peterson in their life
>   — PragerU (@prageru) November 25, 2020
>
>
>
> Found here:
>
>Penguin Random House Woke Staff Break Down In Tears After
>Learning They're Publishing Jordan Peterson's New Book
>
> https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-11-25/woke-penguin-random-house-staff-melts-down-after-learning-their-company-publishing
>
>
>
>
> - Forwarded message from grarpamp  -
>
> From: grarpamp 
> To: cypherpu...@cpunks.org
> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2020 03:29:20 -0500
> Subject: Censorship: PC Crypuddle over Peterson's New Book
> List-Id: The Cypherpunks Mailing List 
> X-Spam-Level:
>
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5bv3x/penguin-random-house-staff-confront-publisher-about-new-jordan-peterson-book
> https://twitter.com/prageru/status/1331398252558573568
> https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanbpeterson
> https://mobile.twitter.com/MikhailaAleksis
> https://jordanbpeterson.com/
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu635BJxBQE Beyond Order: Intro by
> Jordan Peterson
>
> Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life
> 12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos
>
> "We remain committed to publishing a range of voices and viewpoints.”
>
> Expect cowardly about-face by Tuesday.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWbj-2DRLps Checking the PC Facts
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blTglME9rvQ Infamy and Truth
>
> Stand up straight, get ready!
>
> - End forwarded message -

Re: Make it rain, baby girl.

[\0xDynamite]

and children.

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 11:41 PM Cari Machet  wrote:

> Plants and animals are profoundly more charitable than ANY human ever
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 11:37 PM grarpamp  wrote:
>
>> On 11/22/20, Cari Machet  wrote:
>> > I am black block
>> > But I am not one dimensional
>>
>> Black bloc left, and the ruthless oligarchs, are
>> both dispicable. They both rape and destroy to
>> keep for themselves, one literally steals,
>> the other frauds away, one violates private
>> property, the other teeters on falling from too
>> much, both force, both kill, and neither mature
>> enough to give to charity. Both should die.
>>
>> Peace love libertarian voluntary anarchism
>> with personal local charity to assist those
>> who cannot (which is far more than animal
>> kingdom does, of which humans are still
>> DNA programmed and a part of) if you want
>> to smooth over chances at problems, in
>> many areas actually.
>>
>> No government, no politic, no system, no force,
>> as all are false and have been tried before, will
>> ever work... but what is guided from within, and
>> with others, freely, voluntarily, with some sense
>> of responsibility for the full circle of what
>> you create coming back to you and yours.
>>
> --
>
> 
> cari machet
> about.me/carimachet
> 
>

Re: Has anyone seen Cecilia (sea sea)

[\0xDynamite]

> I haven't been able to read past here yet.
>
> On 10/29/20, \0xDynamite  wrote:
> > Oooohkay.  Why are we all dead?  I'm dead because people didn't
> > think I existed.
>
> Any more information?  Are you the people who have to live dead, in a
> way they might hate that proves they always existed all along, so that
> they can be born again some day?

No, in the way that people denied my existence in the Beginning of
GENESIS to propound a THEORY that was NEVER PROVEN about MAN (only
about finches or some shit).   And, they called me HOMO when I'm
HETERO (sapiens).

> > Why are you all dead?
>
> I'm dead because I wired a nintendo to my [marketing corporation],
> gave it to a video game addict, and watched advertisements, instead of
> drinking water.

That's some wierd shit.

> Uhh, to rephrase, I'm dead because I cried in the arms of my dictator
> about how I need to murder him to make friends again with the rebels,
> which started a civil war.
>
> Uhhh... kinda, sorta?  We don't really know each other that well yet.

Yeah.

> > Marxos (is Karl a bot?)

Re: Has anyone seen Cecilia (sea sea)

[\0xDynamite]

> I’m dead because everyone thinks I’m a bot which is extremely hurtful and no 
> one cares.

You're not a bot, but if you were you'd at least (at some level) be
extremely rational, which is already an improvement over general
society.

> Btw Donald or Joe 

Donald + Harris :  A bi-polar solution to a bi-polar society.  It's
balanced male and female.  Otherwise, tear down America -- since
people let their country go -- and rebuild from local governments.

\0xD
> Oooohkay. Why are we all dead? I'm dead because people didn't
> think I existed.
>
> Why are you all dead?
>
> Marxos
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 6:02 PM rooty  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Glad you are doing well sea sea. Thank you for checking in. I am dead
> >
> > MAGA
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 4:06 PM, Cecilia Tanaka  
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 19:52 Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Fuck you Cecilia.
> >
> >
> > I love you, Juan. <3
> >
> >> Feel free to add anything of value for a change, apart from your usual pro 
> >> US cesspool propaganda.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the invitation. Nothing of relevance. I am dead.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

[\0xDynamite]

> > We do not in fact have equality before the law, because actual equality
> > before the law leads to intolerable consequences, because individuals,
> > groups, and communities are not in fact equal, and require different laws.

No, this is handled by having multiple levels of jurisdiction, pushing
the power to the people.  If one city doesn't have the laws in your
favor, you can move to another who does and see which set of laws help
make a better city/county/state/nation/et cetera.

\0xD

Re: Barf, Mind Controlled Politics

[\0xDynamite]

Given Godel's Theorem, there is never, ever going to be a complete and
secure system, so then:

Why not just create a world where you can trust each other??

duh, DUH!!!

Marcos

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 8:51 PM Karl  wrote:
>
> mm yeah.
>
> So, it turns out that due to a confusing mathematical relation, it's quite 
> reasonable to add universal chaff to tor.
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:47 PM Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
>>
>> Remember muh wh.gger, you have the power under your hot little finger 
>> tippies, the power to NOT jump into this digital fight club frey :D
>>
>> Feel free to exercise no restraint and -get- that communication happening 
>> though... to leave even an iota UNresponded to can be way, WAY too much 
>> though, so -your- response is usually considered (by -your- emotional body), 
>> as imperative critical important essential must be typed.
>>
>> The power.
>>
>>
>>   Da  POWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 09:15:34PM -0400, Karl wrote:
>> > Let the figureheads elect themselves.
>> >
>> > I can't handle this.  I'm in a state of mind where I don't know how to stop
>> > engaging the list, and my whole family is democratic.  I hear stories of
>> > people suffering from Trump, most of my family has looked into citizenship
>> > in other countries out of fear of him.
>> >
>> > I don't want to fight you, and I don't want to be responsible for more
>> > suffering if I don't.

Re: Barf, Mind Controlled Politics

[\0xDynamite]

I hear you.  Solutions may come yet.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 8:17 PM Karl  wrote:
>
> Let the figureheads elect themselves.
>
> I can't handle this.  I'm in a state of mind where I don't know how to stop 
> engaging the list, and my whole family is democratic.  I hear stories of 
> people suffering from Trump, most of my family has looked into citizenship in 
> other countries out of fear of him.
>
> I don't want to fight you, and I don't want to be responsible for more 
> suffering if I don't.

Re: Phys.org: Revolutionary quantum breakthrough paves way for safer online communication

[\0xDynamite]

You know, maybe all of this encryption/privacy/security concern is
outmoded.  Maybe we're barking up the wrong tree here.  Perhaps we
should just create a happy community of people who know what the fuck
they're doing.  Why have privacy when you can make a community of
trusted people?  , and wait for everyone else to get their head out of
their ass.  Eventually it gets as big as the human population.

Privacy might just be the wrong direction with trusted peers and
keeping out the javascripters.

\0xD

Re: [OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...

[\0xDynamite]

> And, I ask pardon, but now I am completely sure that my life is a disgraceful 
> shit, but I do love it.  I do love being alive.  It's always fucking 
> interesting and my memories are part of who I am now.  My memories, fears, 
> and traums can be scary or sad, but are important part of my life.  So I can 
> live with them pretty well, I think.  Or I die trying it.  ;)

You sound cool.  Your picture doesn't show a disgraceful person.

> (But some problems are sooo fucking boring...  Me too, I know.  Sorry, bad 
> mood.  Need more sugar.)

Now, now, what's your problem with yourself?

Mark

Re: Surveillance Advocacy

[\0xDynamite]

> > > > We all know now what COVID-19 (nCov, Coronavirus) is.
> > >
> > > No 'we' don't. 'covid' is a global fascist PSYOP, but you 
> > > prentend to not know it.
> >
> > That is a very real working hypothesis I've been working on.  I tend
> > to see that Satan is behind it, but it is effectively
> > indistinguishable.
>
> OK Marxos, a jot of homework for ya, please do tell us where the word Satan 
> comes from, and don't chicken out on us either.

It likely comes from the shibboleth named "GOD" produced by Christians
and their errors,

> > What the punk-stasi is saying is that by looking for cases you provide
> > legitimacy to it.  And legitimacy in a propaganda campaign is
> > advocacy, for that is what the propagandist seeks.
>
> That is true, and further, that somewhere high up, some smallish number of 
> actual humans actually discussed and at one point actually decided to run 
> this massive virus drill, and to run it as realistically as possible.

Well, there is one other possibility.  It was witnessed by myself:
the "cabal" at the top of the "illuminati" and the all-seeing-eye was
actually a machine (hence the term shibboleth) ran by prophesy that
had already been circumvented and co-opted, yet still intact.  This
was holding the right side of the thing.  After liberals erected gay
men as superior to GOD, the media machine was held by them (for the
servce of MAN, perhaps, yet still).

> > > surveillance already exists and you're RECOMMENDING that it be 
> > > used to deal with a non-existent 'threat'. You are SUPPORTING 
> > > surveillance by pathetically lying about its 'usefulness'.
> >
> > While there might be a case for surveillance in some benevolent
> > society, it is WAY too much power to the governors in a cracked
> > society like this.   But IF THERE IS SURVEILLANCE, give access to the
> > People to balance and check the power being given to government.
>
> Hard to disagree that folks have a right while in public, to make recordings 
> of what they see and hear...

Except, that the tech used to do so (including the optics) is beyond
most men and women's abilities to produce or explain.  That means that
it is a higher force that they're using to get those capabilities.

marxos

Re: Preventing Nonconsensual Surveillance By Others

[\0xDynamite]

Why stop them, when you can have personal drones with hi-def wifi
cameras, to go pretty much wherever you want?

\0xD

freedom - evolution of jew-kristian fascism in the western cesspool [RESEND]

[\0xDynamite]

> > So, do you have a PLAN?
>
> my personal plan is to counter the propaganda underpinning the 
> current political, economic and  'cultural' order.

Sounds good.

> > "Abolish the state" isn't sufficient.  It may not even be necessary.
>
> abolishing the state isn't sufficient. It is, however, quite 
> necessary.

So, I'm trying to dream a world where there is no State.  Is it
Marxist communism?  Is it shiny, happy people holding hands?  Maybe
something like appropedia.org.

> > Anything more?
>
> as far a I can tell, a certain number of people with the correct 
> ideas is needed to resist govcorp and theocracy. Otherwise you end up like 
> Jim Bell or Ross Ulbricht.

Hmm, the "Joo prophesy" calls for a secular order, not a theocratic
one.  There is a Christian philosophy of a "holy catholic church"
which will answer the remaining questions for Wo/Man regarding
religion.  Is that desirable?  Or should there be no connection to the
Divine in this new order?

> > Because, while you were
> > sleeping, you dreamed up the Fight Club and it's already written.
>
> not sure what point you're making by rerencing fight club?

The point is, I'm believe, is that the world you want is already made
and is waiting for YOU.

>The main character was rather crazy so I'd describe fight club as 
>hollywood-pentagon propaganda showing the 'dangers' of 'crazy terrists'.

Ha, no, I think not.  The main character was what every anarchist
yearns to be:  intelligent, organized, suave, and a better lover than
any protestant or bourgoisie.

> Oh and yes, buildings get blown up exactly like the buildings the US military 
> blew up during 9/11.
>
> Also it's a lot easier to get glycerine from cooking oil.

An interesting point...

Marcos

freedom - evolution of jew-kristian fascism in the western cesspoo.: RESEND

[\0xDynamite]

>> And therefore, by the elimination of the State itself, we will create
>> a new system of freedom away from the State and ABOLISH ALL RULES --
>> even the ones that YOU make for your family or community.
>
>   so who are you to make any 'rules' for anybody? Oh yeah, you're the 
> typical
> wannabe tyrant. In your case an explicit jew-kristian tyrant.

There is no "who".

>   anyway the topic was the fact that so called 'protestants' are even 
> worse
> garbage than catholics(which is of course saying a lot). And of course
> protestants are the ones behind the anglo-jew-US empire.

Conclusion on punk-stasi:  ALLY.

So, do you have a PLAN?  "Abolish the state" isn't sufficient.  It may
not even be necessary.  Anything more?  Because, while you were
sleeping, you dreamed up the Fight Club and it's already written.

Marcos

Re: freedom - evolution of jew-kristian fascism in the western cesspool

[\0xDynamite]

> "the Reformation meant not the elimination of the Church’s control over
> everyday life, but rather the substitution of a new form of control for the
> previous one. It meant the repudiation of a control which was very lax, at
> that time scarcely perceptible in practice, and hardly more than formal, in
> favor of a regulation, of the whole of conduct which, penetrating to all
> departments of private and public life, was infinitely burdensome and
> earnestly enforced. The rule of the Catholic Church, “punishing the heretic,
> but indulgent to the sinner,” as it was in the past even more than today, is
> now tolerated by peoples of thoroughly modern economic character, and was
> borne by the richest and economically most advanced peoples on earth at
> about the turn of the fifteenth century. The rule of Calvinism, on the other
> hand, as it was enforced in the sixteenth century in Geneva and in Scotland,
> at the turn of the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries in large parts of the
> Netherlands, in the seventeenth in New England, and for a time in England
> itself, would be for us the most absolutely unbearable form of
> ecclesiastical control of the individual which could possibly exist."

And therefore, by the elimination of the State itself, we will create
a new system of freedom away from the State and ABOLISH ALL RULES --
even the ones that YOU make for your family or community.

There shall be no rule.  Because rules imply rulers.  Period.

*pause*

The first rule of Fight Club is that there is no Fight Club.

marcos

Re: KGP propaganda - Re: On the need for banks

[\0xDynamite]

>> So is power the enemy in all guises?   How does one get their clothes?
>
> Those who have no conflicts have no enemies, and vice versa.  There is no 
> such thing as hate.

Nice one.  Though I feel I must add that without discrimination,
entropy results.  And entropy means death.

So somewhere, there must be a nice balance between the two.

Marxos

Re: Sustainable anarchist 'communities'

[\0xDynamite]

> 0xDynamite, is there a way to mirror your wiki offline?

It's not my wiki, but one I'm helping.  You should be able to "scrape"
the wiki with standard tools, unfortunately I am not such a master.
The content is licensed under either Creative Commons or GNU Free
Documentation License, so is pretty free to use.

Zenaan:  no problem!  You might like the pages under Global Village
Construction Kit, where some clashing did indeed occur, mostly over my
use of non-masculine solutions and conjoining a project of Marcin
Jakubowski (but since Marshall McLuhan invented the term "global
village", AND I'm completely supportive of that project, I believed it
to be okay).

Good luck!

Marxos

Re: Sustainable anarchist 'communities'

[\0xDynamite]

These problems are all solved over at the wiki of appropedia.org.
Check the "global village", by yours truly.

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:13 PM Zig the N.g  wrote:
>
> Thank you again Cari.  Some thoughts:
>
> For anything to last, there must be relevence or perhaps "reality", for the 
> individual.
>
> Fear is one reality, along with love, and survival, and joy and much more.
>
> The survival imperative, gives rise to fear of the unknown (such as a virus) 
> as well as to action.
>
> Some actions are more grounded in reality than others.
>
> One foundation of sustainable anarchist communities, or families, or 
> individuals, is food and water.
>
> Sustaining ones body is a fundamental to survival.
>
> So too is protection from hail storms, and extremes of heat and cold, thus 
> the need for some form of shelter, be it a bridge, or a mansion.
>
> Many clamour for trappings (the mansions, cars etc) to Keep up with Jones's, 
> and without sufficient thought, enslave themselves for decades to usurious 
> banks.
>
> Since abundance is an engineering problem, wisdom might decree cooperation 
> with fellow humans to manifest abundance, without the enslavement of decades 
> of usurious interest payments.  Example - a barn raising, credit cooperatives 
> (before they get bought out by a bank), food growing cooperatives, barter.
>
> Abundance is "merely" an engineering problem... we should work together to 
> uplift, not enslave.
>
> For something to be real to the individual, pathways of action must be 
> cognized, and many also require social validation/reinforcement (thus, 
> pathetic virtue signalling).
>
> Trailblazers or "pioneers" (e.g. RMS) do not need social validation.
>

Fwd: KGP propaganda - Re: On the need for banks

[\0xDynamite]

-- Forwarded message -
From: \0xDynamite 
Date: Sun, May 3, 2020 at 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: KGP propaganda - Re: On the need for banks
To: Punk-Stasi 2.0 


> > One of the ways to reinforce a nation against such predatory oligarchical 
> > financial rule, is a state-run development bank,
>
> fascist spam, like the rest of harkness' spam

So is power the enemy in all guises?   How does one get their clothes?

marcos

corona

[\0xDynamite]

Does anyone else feel like America has become the weakest society in
history?  How does anyone know that the virus isn't giving a chance to
evolve?  That it's lethality comes from having some bit of wisdom from
the biosphere that humans either need to learn or die from?

marcos

Re: Coronavirus: Thread

[\0xDynamite]

That first one on germs was hilarious.

marcos

Re: Understanding the SJW...

[\0xDynamite]

> "It's not enough that they believe something,
> its that you have to believe it too" -- DM

I encountered this at a hackerspace in San Francisco.  It sucks.
They've turned a movement designed to create a creative economy for
all into their political platform.  In this case a queer sanctuary
when it shouldn't even matter:  do they know how to hack?

Welcome to the New Age.

Written on behalf of,
Friends of Adam

Re: Trump Tests Positive For Coronavirus

[\0xDynamite]

You know, that was some amazing gigging.

Re: Lax measures to protecting against the virus

[\0xDynamite]

> Lax measures to protecting against the virus should be considered to
> be engaging in a conspiracy against all mankind. Dangers on that scale
> can only be dealt with in one way and merits all necessary action.

Please, worrying about little bugs means your just weak.  Don't blame
the Man.   Animals don't worry about this shit and they're generally
far more hardy.

\0xd

Re: Radical hydrogen-boron reactor leapfrogs current nuclear fusion tech

[\0xDynamite]

>> This shit will not save society.  Without leaders ALL technology is a
>> liability:  amplifying the good equally to the bad.
>>
>> The only solution to this society is a COMPLETE REFACTORING.
>
> What do you mean by the term "refactoring"? Is there a previous email link,
> or blog or something?

http://wiki.c2.com/?RefactorMercilessly

marcos

Re: Radical hydrogen-boron reactor leapfrogs current nuclear fusion tech

[\0xDynamite]

> From Discover on Google
> https://newatlas.com/energy/hb11-hydrogen-boron-fusion-clean-energy/

This shit will not save society.  Without leaders ALL technology is a
liability:  amplifying the good equally to the bad.

The only solution to this society is a COMPLETE REFACTORING.

MARCOS

Re: What

[\0xDynamite]

That's why there are courts.  Courts resolve the discrepancies between
the law and the facts, NOT the Legislature.

Marcos

On 1/31/20, Ryan Carboni  wrote:
> I don't understand our legal system anymore. Is this malum prohibitum
> versus malum in se? Has our legal system become based on reacting on
> what the facts show instead of what the law mandates or allows?
>
> It doesn't matter, many politicians have law degrees and clearly have
> nothing to show for it.
>
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/01/30/senate-will-likely-acquit-trump-it-should-still-reject-dershowitzs-logic/
> "They will find themselves having to argue the law rather than argue the
> facts."
>

Re: Stop Breaking Proper Fucking Email Threading

[\0xDynamite]

Now that you've (we've?) got all of our pent-up aggressions about each
other out, I'd like to point out that the Plan is already here.  Yes,
the Plan.

The Plan.

m

On 1/16/20, Razer  wrote:
>
> On 1/16/20 5:29 AM, grarpamp wrote:
>> Stop fucking top posting, HTML sending, and bulk quoting.
>
>
> *Stop obsessively-compulsively posting reams of links shithead.*
>
> Rr
>
>
>

Re: This is the Opportunity-cost of NOT implementing my AP idea

[\0xDynamite]

  [twice in the last couple of hours I sent this,
>>
>> >   yes, we got it THREE TIMES
>>
>>>
>>  https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-January/078865.html
>>
>>https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-January/078867.html
>>
>>https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-January/078869.html
>>
>>>you can check the archive before needlessly resending
>>
>>>But I only got it ONE TIME.  And, I notice that nobody else replied
>>>before the third time.  So far, you're the only one who claim you got
>>>it more than once.Let's get some confirmation.

At the risk of getting my head chopped off:  How many times did you SEND it?

I think what you're noticing is apathy that has grown in
America/Europe since the use of psychiatric meds, like prozac and
anti-depressats.  'Shit ain't free, and that stuff is robbing the
collective consciousness and turning us all into passive cows.

Re: Cryptocurrency: Fundamentals, Privacy

[\0xDynamite]

In my educated, activist opinion, there is only one application for
cryptocurrency:  making a creative economy on the internet.  A minimal
denomination of the currency would be rewarded for every "vote" given
by a legit user and the massive content of the internet would start to
get sorted out into groups.

Otherwise, it's not going to replace paper, sorry.  There are better
plans for that.

\0xD

On 1/9/20, grarpamp  wrote:
> DC27 Crypto Fundamentals Intro w Kim
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8PBOVDWO6Y
>
> CashFusion Non-Protocol Privacy w Fyookball
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGZbPW59i3U
>

Re: Fw: cypherpunks post acknowledgement

[\0xDynamite]

>  These "acknowledgements" sent to me are rather useless, and indeed quite
> insulting, if they don't actually confirm that the server that runs the list
> will actually POST my message, rather than merely say it "was successfully
> received by the cypherpunks mailing list."
> Because TWICE I recieved such a "acknowledgement" and yet the message didn't
> post.

Here's something even more alarming:  I don't get "acknowledgement
messages" at all, yet my messages show up in my feeds from the server.

I seen strange, inconsistent behavior on the hackerspaces mailing list
as well.  It's like they black-ball or moderate messages only from
certain senders -- and do it invisibly so no one knows such activity
is happening.

It's called black-balling.  Who knows if you're a woman and get this treatment?

marc0s

Re: This is the Opportunity-cost of NOT implementing my AP idea

[\0xDynamite]

> I will recant AP when, and only when, the world figures out a way to solve
> ALL of its problems that AP would otherwise solve.  Which will NEVER occur.

But you are possibly missing out on a problem AP *would* cause:  mob
slander of an innocent man.  Your AP has to be *perfectly* accurate of
its indictments.  How will you do this without re-inventing "the
System"?

That's why I propose the Headline Target technique:  more likely to
get results, and more-or-less harmless if wrong.

marxos

Re: Clue to So-Called Missing Jim Bell-AP Messages

[\0xDynamite]

>>> Nutjob
>>
>> Have you done the work?
>
> I think John's posting of Tim's email pretty much resolved it. Anyone
> who expects a US public (or private) server owner not to obey a US court
> order's instructions is too stupid to be using a computer on the
> internet.

Are you saying you're willing to give away your rights?  If you
haven't broken a law, what is your reason to give up anything...?

marxos

Re: Clue to So-Called Missing Jim Bell-AP Messages

[\0xDynamite]

> You'll notice whose prominently missing from this convo.
>
> Jim Bell.
>
> Know why?
>
> He didn't really want an answer.
>
> He wants a reason to be paranoid.
>
> Nutjob

You shouldn't be so quick to judge, from afar, at that.  In times of
confusion and disease, nothing can be certain without doing the work.

Have you done the work?

Marcos

Re: Clue to So-Called Missing Jim Bell-AP Messages

[\0xDynamite]

>  >The subpoena states in bold caps "We request that you do not
>  >disclose the existence of this subpoena, because such a
>  >disclosure may make it more difficult to conduct the investigation."
>  >...
>  >   Please provide any and all documents, papers, letters, computer
>  >   disks, photographs, notes, objects, information, or other items
>  >   in your possession or under your control, including electronically
>  >   stored or computer records, which:
>  >
>  > 1. Name, mention, describe, discuss, involve or relate to James
>  > Dalton Bell, a/k/a Jim Bell, or
>
>
> By the way, John, thanks for the "heads up." I purged my archives of
> Jim Bell e-mail sent directly to me, though I left on my system the
> e-mail he copied the list on.

Doesn't this implicate you?  Are you trying to protect him?

> (Yes, I purged the back-ups, too. A good reason not to back up e-mail
> to CD-Rs.)
>
> --Tim May

Hmm, your header says you're John Young

\0xD

Re: [gilma...@gmail.com: WHO admits polio outbreak in the Philippines caused by polio vaccines…outbreak “caused by vaccine-derived poliovirus type 2”]

[\0xDynamite]

> Subject: WHO admits polio outbreak in the Philippines caused by polio
> vaccines…outbreak “caused by vaccine-derived poliovirus type 2”

Finally, people are getting it:  medicines are just another type of
control.  Because if you don't know how they work or what your real
problem is, you are not in control.  And if you're not in control,
something else is in control.

If you really want to understand what polio is, ask.

Mark Janssen, HD

Re: Why the quantum internet should be built in space

[\0xDynamite]

> But even at about 1550 nanometers, 50 kilometers of fiber has:  50 km x 0.15 
> dB/km  = 7.5 dB of optical loss

Isn't there a better unit than Bells (dBs) for optics, like
transparency or opacity?  It seems Bells are directly related to air
pressure

Mark

AP

[\0xDynamite]

I also just realized that we're using a word that triggers the Echelon system.

DUMBASSES!!!

\0xd

Re: Assassination Politics AP

[\0xDynamite]

> I think in the end, the right way to handle this is to think
> creatively and not use assassination as a model at all, but keep the
> payout bounty idea.  People just have to be more creative at getting
> payback.

Wait a second, i just realized that I've already implemented this.
But I'm not allowed to talk about it.

Find the github project JusticeLeague.

Re: Assassination Politics AP

[\0xDynamite]

> >I've been thinking about your AP idea, and think rather than make mock
> contracts on political "targets", which is a bit incendiary, one could
> make headline "bounties" that, if met, get rewarded.  Like "CIA
> director, X, dies from food poisoning".
>
> One possibility would be to implement an AP system, but limit the payout for 
> any one target to a fairly low value, say $1000. (enough to cause a bit of 
> worry).  Then file a lawsuit in Federal Court for an injunction against law 
> enforcement authorities to demand that the legalities of such a system be 
> debated and declared.  'They' would have to explain and document why they 
> thought that such a system was illegal, or admit it would be legal.

Having payouts is pretty risky, because they could claim that you
aided or abetted a criminal act, but the beauty of using headlines is
that you don't have to suggest that anybody get hurt.  You/US have to
be creative.  It puts equal burden on the headline maker to think of
something that gets *righteous* payback without actually hurting
anyone.  AND you get the added bonus of complete separation from the
act.  I shouldn't have used the example of a CIA director dying of
food poisoning, because that could be construed as incentivizing
murder (especially if you're offering payouts).

I think in the end, the right way to handle this is to think
creatively and not use assassination as a model at all, but keep the
payout bounty idea.  People just have to be more creative at getting
payback.

Marxos

OFFTOPIC: cops parody

[\0xDynamite]

https://youtu.be/KDuU3bzMZhY

Re: Assassination Politics AP

[\0xDynamite]

> >Such platforms being centralized, the implementation
> would likely be reported and instantly shutdown.
>
> I would think that sociologists and philosophers would be interested to know, 
> at least theoretically, how an AP-type system would function, in a harmless 
> environment like a game simulation program.

I've been thinking about your AP idea, and think rather than make mock
contracts on political "targets", which is a bit incendiary, one could
make headline "bounties" that, if met, get rewarded.  Like "CIA
director, X, dies from food poisoning".

So I've been thinking of a few headline examples:
* "Excrement Catapult baffles local police"
* "Man arrested for putting testicles on double-parked car downtown."
* "Fart panic on flight 403, hysterical cabin threatens landing"
* "A sigh of relief for zero casualities as vacated skyskraper
plummets 1000'." V
* "Crowd screams out of shopping mall after home-made 'stink bomb'
fills apparel store"
* "'Friendly' christian argument ends in puke brawl"
* "Food writers furious after finding semen on their salsbury"
* "Routine stop leads to 20 car pileup."
* "Rogue drives military tank through LA suburb." V
* "Man puzzles customers with labyrinth at IKEA with no way out." V
* "Phone lines flood governors's office at rush hour as "reverse
graffiti" reveals private phone number at I-20 underpass."
* "Man walks into Sunday church, shoots firearm until people are
screaming, and walks out."

Things like this, make things interesting without involving any death.

What do you think?

\0xD

Re: Intel Interrogation FM 34-52

[\0xDynamite]

Nice find!

On 12/25/19, grarpamp  wrote:
> https://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/pdf/intel_interrrogation_sept-1992.pdf
>

Re: Anglin literally defends homosexuals - [PEACE]

[\0xDynamite]

> So the Amblin Memer is now literally defending MILO.

Be sure you got the story right.  I don't know it, but don't defend
homosexuality.  DEFEND gay men.  They are two separate things.  Anyone
who tells you otherwise is a fucked up libertard -- total zombies for
anything they've read in the media that seems scandalous and
different.

Trust me:  there are destinies for gay men (or women) that are FAR
greater than sodomy.  They are literally in a different species.

>   goyim = cattle
>
> According the sacred Jewish bible, there is to be exactly 3000 goyim
> to serve each Jew, and this state of worldly paradise and the
> reclamation of "greater Israel" can only occur after the loss of
> exactly 6 million Jews.

Well, it is true that you dumbfucks that (who?) wanted to be monkeys
owe the Jews, including myself, for screwing up divine plans and the
pain that the Christian/LBGQT world put us in when the devil itself
ran you dumbasses.  Remember how dumb christians were?  Exactly that
on the LBGQT side.  Unfortunately, it's not funny and recreated the
holocaust within the soul during the 21st century.

Remember when your'e rooted in a falsehood:  YOU WILL BELIEVE IN ANY
DUMBASS THING EVENTUALLY (even poop and guns as equal to love and
life).   Hence the importance of having a free mind on a journey of
KNOWLEDGE.

Marxos

Re: Chelsea Manning attempts to destroy 'grand jury' system using their actions as wrecking ball!

[\0xDynamite]

>>  Love you Chelsea! See you at the Barricades ‍☠️
>
> Then post her words. It's also her birthday.

 HIS.  Post *his* words.  Just because you "feel like a girl" doesn't
 make you a girl.  If I felt like a horse, would I be a horse, too?
>>>
>>> If you wanted to be a horse, why not?
>>
>> Maybe because I'd still be 90% human
>>
>>> At some point, I'm sure that there will be species-change technology.
>>
>> No, why would you assume so?  Do you think cutting off your penis
>> makes you a woman, too?  Just what kind of bullshit will you be
>> willing to turn away from?  When does it stop for you?
>
> Me, I'm happy as I am. As long as I get my testosterone and modafinil,
> anyway.

So you're not happy without augmentation?

> But why should whatever you or I think or want matter for anyone else?

Very simply:  the choices of ONE person eventually and INEVITABLY
affect SOMEONE ELSE.  Have you thought about this much?

> And about the penis thing. As I understand it, they basically invert and
> expand the penis. So the glans becomes the clitoris, and the interior
> becomes the vagina. It's a crude hack, for sure. But it is more or less
> consistent with developmental homology.

HA, why would that make you a woman?  Do you think a woman is defined
by her vagina?  You are the one who insults people.

 Sometimes the Left is as stupid as the Right.
>>>
>>> I have no clue why ideology must be one dimensional.
>>
>> No clue?  How about mental illness?  If you want any-dimensional
>> "spectra", then there is no such thing as mental illness either,
>> right?
>
> Those aren't arguments, just insults.

Not quite "just".  They are based on a the medical professions best
opinion, albeit from the 1980s.  You suppose the science for gender
changed much since then?

>> Have you ever tested your philosophy on anyone older than high school?

I think not, but I meant with a *maturity* of someone older than high
school, sorry.

\0xD

Re: Chelsea Manning attempts to destroy 'grand jury' system using their actions as wrecking ball!

[\0xDynamite]

  Love you Chelsea! See you at the Barricades ‍☠️
>>>
>>> Then post her words. It's also her birthday.
>>
>> HIS.  Post *his* words.  Just because you "feel like a girl" doesn't
>> make you a girl.  If I felt like a horse, would I be a horse, too?
>
> If you wanted to be a horse, why not?

Maybe because I'd still be 90% human

> At some point, I'm sure that there will be species-change technology.

No, why would you assume so?  Do you think cutting off your penis
makes you a woman, too?  Just what kind of bullshit will you be
willing to turn away from?  When does it stop for you?

>> Sometimes the Left is as stupid as the Right.
>
> I have no clue why ideology must be one dimensional.

No clue?  How about mental illness?  If you want any-dimensional
"spectra", then there is no such thing as mental illness either,
right?

Have you ever tested your philosophy on anyone older than high school?

Seriously,

\0xd

Re: Chelsea Manning attempts to destroy 'grand jury' system using their actions as wrecking ball!

[\0xDynamite]

On 12/17/19, grarpamp  wrote:
> On 12/17/19, Razer  wrote:
>> https://medium.com/@kevin_33184/chelsea-mannings-resistance-brings-u-s-closer-to-ending-the-grand-jury-7b9d3ad6537a
>>  Love you Chelsea! See you at the Barricades ‍☠️
>
> Then post her words. It's also her birthday.

HIS.  Post *his* words.  Just because you "feel like a girl" doesn't
make you a girl.  If I felt like a horse, would I be a horse, too?

Sometimes the Left is as stupid as the Right.

\0xD

[no subject]

[\0xDynamite]

The censors are now making it difficult for people to edit wikipedia
pages and other mediawiki sites.  If you don't believe in their
liberal, gaytheist religion, they bombard you with impossible captchas
and don't give you linking.

\0xD

Re: Lovely... <3

[\0xDynamite]

That is hilarious.

\0xD

On 11/20/19, Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:
> A little joke to make you smile, Razer!  :D
>
> What's the difference between USB and USA?
>
> One connects to all your devices and accesses your data. The other is a
> hardware standard.
>

Re: Guerilla Open Access Manifesto

[\0xDynamite]

I abide with the spirit of Aaron Swartz, but he wasn't perfect.  I
believe, philosophically, that knowledge should be the heritage of
mankind, but practically there must be protective mechanisms to ensure
that the knowledge is vouchsafed.

> Information is power. But like all power, there are those who want to
> keep it for
> themselves.

This is where he's wrongheaded.  People do tend to keep power to
themselves, but they don't tend to keep knowledge to themselves unless
they, themselves, made it.  What people are doing holding *access* to
knowledge (generally through subscriptions) is trying to monetize
knowledge, which is not the same struggle of power.

>The world's entire scientific and cultural heritage,
> published over centuries
> in books and journals, is increasingly being digitized and locked up
> by a handful of
> private corporations. Want to read the papers featuring the most
> famous results of the
> sciences? You'll need to send enormous amounts to publishers like Reed
> Elsevier.

Probably not.  Much of the best science was published centuries ago
and is available freely with just a little effort to go to the
library.  There is hardly any real knowledge that is kept from
mankind, except business or national politics.

> There are those struggling to change this. The Open Access Movement has
> fought
> valiantly to ensure that scientists do not sign their copyrights away
> but instead ensure
> their work is published on the Internet, under terms that allow anyone
> to access it.

This is where the internet hasn't quite solved the problem with
replacing publishers.  In truth, the problem is solved by myself and
others who have developed voting models to create a meritocracy of
information publishing, but it is not widely applied.

> That is too high a price to pay. Forcing academics to pay money to
> read the work of their
> colleagues?

This is generally handled by the administration of their university.
There is no cost to academics.

I don't want to ridicule Aaron in any way.  I think RSS is an awesome
contribution to the internet.

But despite every liberty-loving individual`s desire for freedom, I've
had to acknowledge that the power to create the personal computer
(which has fostered access to all of this knowledge) came from
individuals seeking to profit for themselves.  It required
corporations, law, money, and self-interest.

I hardly believe I'm saying it, but the only conclusion is:
Self-interest isn't necessarily bad.

Marxos

Re: Scientists Accidentally Recreate Big Bang Detonation in the Lab

[\0xDynamite]

>>  We exist in 3D space. Stuff is allegedly moving. So WHERE did the
>> movenment start.

There's a problem there:  "we exist in 3d space".  Do we?  What
happens if we close our eyes?  What if we're under water with our eyes
closed?  Is the 3d space above the water in the same space as the
water?  What happens to that space if we're buried in dirt and there
are no observers to our burial?

> A second problem is that by stroke of pure luck, our particular
> galaxy happens to be pretty well "central" or at least "nowhere near
> any edge of this grand universe";

Since consciousness is the only real explanation for space (I mean why
else would space exist, buttfucks?  It has an order, which has NO
explanation at all in a *disordered* universe), it's probably the
center.  Other galaxies are probably scant reflections of our own as
seen from a different set of parameters of approximately 16-20
dimensions.

>   - in other words, at least visibly ("within our light cone",
> another theory), we're back to cosmic "we're at the centre of the
> universe" old Jewish/Christianity beliefs, and attempting to
> explain reality around this belief.

Fuck light cones and Hawking's bullshit.

> That's why they're called theories, models, or posulates, not facts.

That's right, so why did StackExchange become a CHURCH for the
orthodoxy?  Mother fuckers won't let me post alternative theories,
unless they've been vetted by some publishing magnate or such.

Thank you for letting me address you as "buttfucks", because I'm sure
I know more than the orthodoxy at this point, and I've been fucking
ripped open two new assholes during the process.  I'm not even
kidding.

Marxos

Re: Interesting request for Cypherpunks posts, limited to period of 1999-through July 2013.

[\0xDynamite]

> Tom, I ask that you increase this request for postings on the Cypherpunks
> list to include the full 1995 period.  I have just discovered a very
> mysterious omission of many postings during various periods in 1995, and
> simultaneously a similarly mysterious 'coincidence' that virtually all
> postings naming me "Jim Bell" and "assassination politics"  (except for a
> very few dated November and December 1995) are simply missing, when there
> should certainly be hundreds present, if not much more.Also, I ask for your
> assistance to try to determine the pattern of missing postings, to determine
> if they include text other than "Jim Bell" or "assassination pollitics".

Now that I remember it, "assassinate" was a keyword in project Echelon
of NSA or whoever the TLA was

On another note...

[\0xDynamite]

Here's a cool site, which will allow you to experiment with different
ciphers and see them encode and decrypt with an plug-and-play
javascrim interface:

http://cryptii.com

Re: [WAR] ... and AP

[\0xDynamite]

 >> >"AP is presupposed on an anonymous money betting ring - i.e. on money,
>> which is collected by people who climb the hiearchy of the day,
>> therefore they have more of it. Many orders of magnitude more of it."
>>
>> But merely having more money, at least initially, does not
>> translate into being able to USE that money to target his enemies.
>> And people who are CURRENTLY "billionaires" got that way using a
>> NON-AP system.  Can you describe how anyone can become, or stay, a
>> "billionaire" in a post-AP world?  Why should you think that would
>> not change?
>
> Game theory.
>
> Sociopaths game the system, no matter what that system is.

All you guys are arguing about, is that BAD people will abuse GOOD
things, but here's a tool which will up the ante or the bet.

There are several problems with the inherent premises in this
formulation of, let us call, the "bad guy problem".  (First premise to
question:  Are there bad guys?)

But before we get into that old problem, let's address the issue at
point.  I can't be sure I'm not confused, but if I've grokked the
debate, Jim's tool has advantage of ignorance. The tech Jim's
releasing gives advantage to the COMMUNITY he releases it in,
presumably chosen by the creator of the tech.  In the "arms race" of
tools to defeat your enemies, first to battlefield gives an immediate
victory.   Perhaps you get preferred access to the media for being an
informant and your reputation goes up.  Yes, eventually, the enemy
integrates these techniques, but you've already gotten a victory.  The
enemy cares about their reputation and eventually if your life depends
on your reputation, you too can be victim of your own system.

But this is just the same old battle -- that doesn't reduce the value
of the tools made in such warfare, but to truly win the war, you have
to do one thing:

Realize there is no one BUT yourself.

The Cold War showed that a victory for America would be a defeat for
America.  At some point, THERE IS NO ENEMY.  Why?  Because you have a
common ancestor, for example (don't we all? (according to science)).
Because you each want kids to be happy.  Because you both like
spending time in the countryside.

So, the "bad guy problem" is premised that there are BAD people.  But
each of those people were children once who didn't care about your
household estate, your equine performance, or your wife's/husbands
tits/cock.

So, is the whole formulation of punk/activism wrong?  NO.  Because,
while there are no inherently bad people (cf. Jesus), there are simply
people who have not benefitted the SAME WAY and EXTENT of the current
incumbents of power and property.

As someone in poverty, I know how this feels.  Everyday I am a victim
of the current incumbents.  Can I get elected and change it?  I don't
know anymore.  That was the design of the US government.  My strategy
was, instead, to get arrested, and convince the Court that power has
become too misused at the "End of the West", my term for the era,
arrived at in the last century, where property and the ability to LIVE
without reporting to anyone are no longer operational.

This little fact makes living EXTREMELY difficult unless you have
property or working at a job.  Now, last time I knew, it is not
REQUIRED by law to have a job, so this little issue of property has to
be solved by the incumbents or result in activism by the propertyless,
because neither seemed to see it coming.  And power requires
responsibility, so

The argument returns to JUSTICE for all:  is it necessary, how to do
it, why should I do it when I don't want to, what will/can they do if
I don't, were the Founders and GOD right the whole time (which both,
notedly, were concerned about the question)?

For this, I await your reply,

Marcos
Earth

Re: Archives are not lost (Re: [z...@freedbms.net: Re: [WAR] ...])

[\0xDynamite]

>  Remember, all I INITIALLY wanted to do was to find the first instance where
> the topic of AP appeared in the list.  Then I (and others) have quickly
> discovered what appears to be a weird omission of postings.

...an "assassination" of sorts.

> I think many of
> my postings appear, just none (prior to November 1995) on the subject of
> AP.I cannot say much about other subjects, simply because I haven't
> looked at other threads, and I don't claim to be able to remember what other
> ideas were being discussed.
> This may end up being a substantial piece of work, which could take time.  I
> ask again, could somebody find the date of the AP-essay appearance on CP?
> Maybe that will be a simple, discrete task that could be quickly done?
> Once a better picture of what data is missing appears, I will probably have
> no choice but to cry "fraud!!!".
> And I think we should pay attention to people, here, who AREN'T acting in a
> concerned fashion.  What is their motivation?  Does this possibility bother
> them?

Yes.  I was on the list back in the 90s, shortly after the WIRED cover
in '93.  I find it odd.  I have seen several strange internet-related
omissions and interference related to internet revolutionaries who
don't follow the dominant liberal or conservative political masters.
I, myself, have been a target on sites such as StackExchange where
they've tried to delete my content when they have a freaking VOTING
MODEL for the community to decide!

Anyway, best of luck, fellow dissident,

Marxos
Earth

Re: Here's true * perfect for you

[\0xDynamite]

BTW, the United States can't institute "marshall" law and suspend your
Constitutional rights.  That's a bullshit idea no one has to believe
in or voted for.  Don't ever buy it if the fuzz ever says it to you.

Talk back and say that it is unconstitutional.

Mark Janssen, JD

On 9/5/19, grarpamp  wrote:
>>  Here's true * for you
>>
>>  "The * shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts
>> and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and
>> general
>> Welfare of the *; "
>>
>> The best and most perferct * the world has ever known.
>
> Pay your taxes.
> Vote the politicians.
> Shut up.
> Be happy.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jB2qxsmkUk
>
>
> We interrupt this program with a special bulletin:
> America is now under marshal law.
> All constitutional rights have been suspended.
> Stay in your homes.
> Do not attempt to contact loved ones, insurance agents or attorneys.
> Shut up.
> Do not attempt to think or depression may occur.
> Stay in your homes.
> Curfew is at 7 PM sharp after work.
> Anyone caught outside of gates of their subdivision sectors after
> curfew will be shot.
> Remain calm, do not panic.
> Your neighborhood watch officer will be by to collect urine examples
> in the morning.
> Anyone caught intefering with the collection of urine examples will be
> shot.
> Stay in your homes, remain calm.
> The number one enemy of progress is question.
> National security is more important than individual will.
> All sports broadcasts will proceed as normal.
> No more than two people may gather anywhere without permission.
> Use only the drugs described by your boss or supervisor.
> Shut up, be happy.
> Obey all orders without question.
> The comfort you demanded is now mandatory.
> Be happy.
> At last everything is done for you.
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNoEWol1wbg
>

Re: VentureBeat: The death of disk? HDDs still have an important role to play

[\0xDynamite]

>  The industry developed UV-erasable EPROM as a substitute, which allowed
> only the erasure of the entire memory chip, , and some early EEPROM.
> (Electrically erasable programmable Read-Only-Memory).Eventually
> "flash-EPROM" was developed.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory

Ah, I hadn't made the connection between FLASH drives and Flash
EEPROMS.  However,  this pushes the question back:  how would an
EEPROM do it?  Old PROMs used to burn fuses to maintain state, but how
to restore state, eh?

I believe that one could make flash drives that start at all-1s and
then burn the 0s into the memory.  A small battery-powered device
could maintain the address of the next writable word, otherwise once
the device reached the end of memory, it would no longer be useful
for. writing.

Anyway,  cheers!

Re: VentureBeat: The death of disk? HDDs still have an important role to play

[\0xDynamite]

The reason I asked because I can't figure out how you can get
persistent memory without burning circuits.  An internal battery
perhaps or a writable crystal, but how?

\0xD

On 9/3/19, grarpamp  wrote:
> On 9/2/19, grarpamp  wrote:
>> On 9/2/19, jim bell  wrote:
>>> VentureBeat: The death of disk? HDDs still have an important role to
>>> play.
>>> https://venturebeat.com/2019/09/02/the-death-of-disk-hdds-still-have-an-important-role-to-play/
>>> I invented the SSD (solid state disk) in August 1980, first marketed one
>>> in August 1981.See "SemiDisk Systems".
>>
>> "Solid state"... does anyone make a DRAMdrive
>
> ie: here are some DRAM examples that for some users
> are too small, slow, old, and or insist on integrating "backup"
> solutions whose function is better handled elsewhere...
>
> Acard ans-9010ba sata 8 slot
> BayRAMFive sata 4 slot
> DDRdrive PCIe 4 slot
>
> http://www.supremelaw.org/systems/acard/
> http://supremelaw.org/patents/BayRAMFive/utility.application/award/
> http://www.ddrdrive.com/menu3.html
>
> http://www.supremelaw.org/systems/
> https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive
>

Re: VentureBeat: The death of disk? HDDs still have an important role to play

[\0xDynamite]

> I invented the SSD (solid state disk) in August 1980, first marketed one in
> August 1981.See "SemiDisk Systems".

Seriously?  You mean yourself as Jim Bell or are you quoting?

\0xD

Re: What good is the cypherpunk philosophy?

[\0xDynamite]

>> What good is the cypherpunk philosophy?
>
>> The cypherpunk philosophy can't make public knowledge any more public
>> than
>> it already is. The failure to act is a human failing, not a technological
>> one.

They effectively can.  FOIA requests make public knowledge more
public, for example.

Marxos

Re: Small considerations (was Re: It is insufficient that my life is ruined)

[\0xDynamite]

On 7/20/19, Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 9:38 AM John Newman  wrote:
>>
>> Feel better Cici :)   I've flipped a motorcycle and broken my
>> shoulder, been run over crossing the street and broken my
>> knee and tibia, had a few epileptic seizures where I fell
>> over again (for some reason always on my bad arm) and
>> had to have MORE surgeries... Ack, I have great empathy
>> for you!  Get well soon.
>
> John-John, hope you are feeling better.  Sorry for being so late but
> had some of the worst weeks of my life in the last days.

Can you guys keep it to yourselves?  If you're going to tell us about
your cuddle experiences here on cypherpunks, it should be somewhere
down in the urban byways of cabling tunnels.

Tanks,

Marxos

Re: Alan Turing New Face of 50 Pound Note

[\0xDynamite]

Alan Turing:  homosexual, but not gay.

Boom.  And like that I struck the head of the cogniscente



On 7/15/19, jim bell  wrote:
>  I would say that it must have been frustrating for such a genius to be
> stuck in a world with such primitive devices and processes, but really,
> everyone is stuck in the same position.                    Jim Bell
>
> On Monday, July 15, 2019, 07:17:04 AM PDT, John Young 
> wrote:
>
>  https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48962557#share-tools
>
>
>

Re: Fundamentals of Anglophonic Common Law

[\0xDynamite]

Everyone get the government that they fought for.  There are no
excuses.  If you don't have power, it is because you don't have Truth.

End of story.

\0xDynamite

Re: OFFTOPIC: physics question

[\0xDynamite]

>>I think you answered part of my question, which was partly didactic to
> force science to get more rigor in its explanation.  I think I will
> have to content myself with this because I know that rainbows and the
> sky being blue will NEVER be explainable by science.
> Mark
>
> No, the reason the sky is blue was explained long ago.  It's called
> "Rayleigh scattering".

Mr. Bell, I understand this "explanation" which is not really science.
  To my knowledge this  data has never been replicated by any lab nor
measured in the field by balloon in the upper atmosphere.  It is a
great example of a mansplaination--the attempt merely to hold
dominance of "why everything is the way it is".

> However, that explaination does not include a reference to what my
> understanding of Rayleigh scattering entails.  Considered on the scale of
> the wavelength of the light involved, the density of air varies
> statistically.  Blue is a shorter wavelenth than red, so statistically that
> variation in air density is greater.  So, blue is scattered more than
> red.  Blue sky means that more blue is scattered.

There is no way for the atmosphere to be so stable over both time and
space on the short-scale (meters and seconds) or over time on the
long-scale (every day).  The variance in atmospheric content of carbon
dioxide, oxygen, etc. also varies, so cannot simply be reduced to a
sound bite like Rayleigh scattering.

Please consider donating less at the wikipedia denomination of the
Church of Science.

Mark

Re: OFFTOPIC: physics question

[\0xDynamite]

 Sorry for this little diversion,
 If light travels at a. different speed for different colors in order
 to account for the rainbow of a prism, how fast is the. speed of light
 then?
>>>
>>> The speed of light is a physical constant.  The frequency (or
>>> wavelength) of a photon determines its energy and therefore, to the
>>> human eye, its color.
>>
>> If light's speed is a physical constant, then light wouldn't separate
>> into colors within a prism.
>
> Because light's speed is a physical constant, light separates into
> colors when passing through a prism.
>
> The higher the frequency of a photon, the higher its energy.  Since more
> energetic photons can not speed up, and less energetic photons can not
> slow down, they behave AS IF they had more or less 'mass.'

That's a fascinating view that I haven't heard proposed before.
You're proposing that they DO NOT change speed, as commonly explained.
The separated light would presumably lose mass, because it is now only
*part* of the original.

> Higher and lower energy photons deflect slightly more or less when
> forced to change direction in a refractive medium, in a way analogous to
> heavier and lighter moving objects acted on by, for instance, the wind...

That's a more parsimonious explanation -- that they have more or less
energy, not speed.  But I think, in fact, that this is where there is
a tradeoff in the energy vs. information/data equation of the
universe.  Information (or data) is the opposite side of energy.
Color is data, more than illumination (at least in a rainbow, where it
is questionable whether it would illuminate anything).

I think you answered part of my question, which was partly didactic to
force science to get more rigor in its explanation.  I think I will
have to content myself with this because I know that rainbows and the
sky being blue will NEVER be explainable by science.

Mark

Re: OFFTOPIC: physics question

[\0xDynamite]

>> If light travels at a. different speed for different colors in order
>> to account for the rainbow of a prism, how fast is the. speed of light
>> then?  Is there real physics to optics?  How can light know what
>> direction to bend after it leaves the lens?
>
> The speed of light in glass is slightly less than the speed of light in
> air. This causes light to be refracted (roughly speaking, change the
> direction of its path) when it enters glass at an angle.
>
> The mathematics of this is called Snell's law, sin(a)/sin(b) = v(a)/v(b)
> where sin(a) is the angle of incidence, sin(b is the exit angle, v(a) is
> the velocity of light in air and v(b) is the velocity of light in glass.

Thanks for your response.  The problem with Snell's Law, AFAIK, is
that there are actually two angles of incidence to account for since
there are two dimensions to its surface.

> However, light of different frequencies travels at different speeds in
> glass. Thus blue light bends more than red light, and if the light
> travels through a triangular prism the familiar spectrum is formed.

Yes, this is the part where science "fills in the gaps" it seems
without just cause.  Is light a physical constant dependent on
material properties or is the lens effecting different frequencies
differently or does light change speed for the viewer.

I think the only way to account for the axiis of a lens (even though
it may be symmetrical), is through the relationship to the viewer.
Ie. it is both subjective and objective phenomenon.

Mark

Re: OFFTOPIC: physics question

[\0xDynamite]

> On 5/12/19 9:59 PM, \0xDynamite wrote:
>> Sorry for this little diversion,
>> If light travels at a. different speed for different colors in order
>> to account for the rainbow of a prism, how fast is the. speed of light
>> then?
>
> The speed of light is a physical constant.  The frequency (or
> wavelength) of a photon determines its energy and therefore, to the
> human eye, its color.

If light's speed is a physical constant, then light wouldn't separate
into colors within a prism.

>> Is there real physics to optics?  How can light know what
>> direction to bend after it leaves the lens?
> >
> Longer answer:
>
> https://www.asu.edu/courses/phs208/patternsbb/PiN/rdg/color/color.shtml

I didn't see any example of how light knows which way to bend towards
a focal point in that reference.  Full disclosure:  I already know
there's no physical explanation to these problems.  I am deist.

There is no way to explain the rainbow, either.  raindrops are MOVING
objects -- whatever lensing effects that are present are nullified by
the waving of the water near terminal velocity.  Just a headsup for
those who report to the Church (of Science).

As a deist, I'm content knowing that forces in GOD make these things
happen, and finally takes a load of my mind in explaining things like
the double-slit experiment.  (Which, btw, is beyond a naive "god does
it", but an understanding of theology and METAphysics:  how god
optimizes processing and "computation").


Cheers,
Marx's

OFFTOPIC: physics question

[\0xDynamite]

Sorry for this little diversion, but it has occurred to me that
physics has a bit of a logical contradiction and I think highly of the
group's rational faculties here to help me sort this out.

If light travels at a. different speed for different colors in order
to account for the rainbow of a prism, how fast is the. speed of light
then?  Is there real physics to optics?  How can light know what
direction to bend after it leaves the lens?

Am I the first to discover these discrepancies?  I know everyone tends
to bow to the priesthood on these topics, but I believe the
Establishment has failed to deliver us a secular revolution.

Cheers,

Marcos

Re: My second Facebook thoughtcrime in two weeks!

[\0xDynamite]

Using the tools of the State against the State is the only way to make
progress.  The disconnected utopia was tried in the 60s and in the end
they couldn't get away from the same things the State was addressing:
crime within their ranks and the need to punish, the sick and elderly,
free-riders of the commune who weren't pulling their fair share of
work, etc.

Marcos

On 4/20/19, Steve Kinney  wrote:
>
>
> On 4/20/19 3:01 PM, Punk wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> I got a Facebook account for maybe seven or eight years ago.  Since then
>>> I have used it to find and hook up with local activist orgs; get
>>> feedback on propaganda materials (handbills, flyers, etc.) in production
>>> and distribute the finished products to people who used them IRL; do
>>> volunteer intelligence work for activist orgs; picked up a few paying
>>> gigs; and I managed to seriously blow about a dozen minds that I know
>>> of.  On the whole, The Facebook has served /my/ purposes adequately; the
>>> question of whether that's "good" depends who you ask.
>>
>>
>>  I too had an account in a previous life and used it to do some of the
>> things you mention. But as time went on the costs of using an NSA weapon
>> designed to attack us outweighted any perceived benefit.
>>
>>  For instance, it should be kinda self-evident that what you see inside
>> facebook and which people you get to 'meet' is (heavily) manipulated.
>
> No question:  The Facebook presents as a 'computer dating service' of
> sorts, profiling users' interests and personalities and pulling users
> into echo chambers populated by "their own kind."  To a lesser extent
> The Facebook also exposes users to "opposite" personalities and
> messages, to encourage conflict and polarization - because that drives
> user engagement and, in the long run, promotes our rulers' "divide the
> conquered" agenda.
>
> The Facebook primarily works to find users' existing biases and magnify
> them; their business model includes "changing minds" with regard to
> consumer purchasing preferences and frequency.  In the sphere of
> political ideology, The Facebook spots, classifies and reinforces the
> users' already established patterns, enhancing their predictable
> responses to targeted political propaganda.
>
>>  Then you have rampant censorship at the hands of the asshole users
>> themselves. So the vast majority of groups are heavily censored and just
>> echo chambers.
>
> Yup.  However, those echo chambers do have their potential uses:  One
> must always preach to the choir, else how will they get on the same page
> and work together effectively at show time?
>
> As an example, The Facebook has enabled me to distribute hundreds of
> copies of this package of documents to receptive readers:
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20190110192354/http://pilobilus.net/strategic_conflict_docs_intro.html
>
>
> I think that alone makes screwing around with The Facebook a net win.
>
>>  Then you're running tons of javascript malware, including a keylogger.
>> Because of course the whole point of facebook is to automatically spy on
>> you with milliseconds resolution.
>
> Javascript?  Optional.  Replace the www in any Facebook address with m,
> for the legacy mobile version.  I learned this exists when searching for
> a convenient way to download videos posted directly on The Facebook - in
> the mobile version, just right-click and save-as.  Since then, mobile
> has become my default mode.
>
> The "fancy" version of The Facebook requires JS from facebook.com and
> fbcdn.com ["facebook content distribution network"].  Block Javascript
> from all other sites while on the facebook.com domain and the thing
> works faster and better, without 3rd party user tracking.  NoScript does
> the deed quite conveniently.  AdBlock plasters over some of the cracks
> that may be left.
>
> Another tracking feature:  Links to posted URLs displayed in The
> Facebook do not point to the targets advertised, but to The Facebook
> itself, with PHP arguments appended; when clicked on, these links result
> in a fast redirect to the target site, with a Facebook tracking code
> appended, again as a PHP string.  As far as I know, nobody has made a
> browser plugin to automagically sanitize this process; but the real link
> does appear in the on-page Facebook link; users can extract the real
> link, to kill that component of Facebook user tracking.
>
> The Facebook's pages load a keylogger?  I would like to hear more about
> that; so far I have seen no evidence of one.
>
>>  It should also be self-evident that nobody is ever going to be able to
>> use a NSA-govcorp bulletin board to attack NSA-govcorp in any meaningful
>> way. While you managed to inform a dozen people about the real nature of
>> the society they live in, govcorp used facebook to disinform and
>> manipulate 12 million people (or some such ratio between benefits and harm
>> caused).
>
> That strikes me as a case of "making the perfect the enemy of the good."
>  

JusticeLeague

[\0xDynamite]

Adding order to the anarchy:

http://github.com/thePastor/JusticeLeague

Enjoy!

Re: Phys.org: Listening to quantum radio

[\0xDynamite]

Would quantum radio conceivably allow faster-than-light
communications?  Given that quantum entanglements seem to transcend
OUR spatial dimension...

Marxos

On 3/8/19, jim bell  wrote:
> Phys.org: Listening to quantum radio.
> https://phys.org/news/2019-03-quantum-radio.html
>

Re: Facebook censorship

[\0xDynamite]

Interestingly, you're kinda right (or Assange).  We should have
toppled civilization with it, but it all got co-opted by Gay Politics.
They were censoring anybody that disagreed with their religion.
That's the truth.

Cheerz,
marcos


On 12/28/18, \0xDynamite  wrote:
> LOLZ.  Christian now?
>
> On 12/28/18, Punk  wrote:
>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:20:06 -0600
>> "\\0xDynamite"  wrote:
>>
>>> * The internet is the last hope for civilization:  use it or lose it.
>>
>>
>>  LMAO!!!
>>
>>  "The internet is a threat to human civilization."  --Assange.
>>
>>  Oops. Looks like Assange is right, not some lunatic christian
>>  statist like marcos.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Marcos
>>
>>  
>>
>

Re: Facebook censorship

[\0xDynamite]

LOLZ.  Christian now?

On 12/28/18, Punk  wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 16:20:06 -0600
> "\\0xDynamite"  wrote:
>
>> * The internet is the last hope for civilization:  use it or lose it.
>
>
>   LMAO!!!
>
>   "The internet is a threat to human civilization."  --Assange.
>
>   Oops. Looks like Assange is right, not some lunatic christian
>   statist like marcos.
>
>
>>
>> Marcos
>
>   
>

Re: Software disenchantment

[\0xDynamite]

I totally agree 100%.  I've made a software repo on github to make a
new operating system which is designed to encourage software being
built better:  By continuing to use the best modular parts, optimized
for the machine, and working together.

Check it out:  github.com/thePastor/SingularityOS

When I'm not on my bloated Linux machine which doesn't run javascript
site, I'll try to get to the reddit boards...

Mark

On 9/23/18, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 08:12:23PM +0300, Александр wrote:
>> Jonathan Blow  has a language he
>> alone develops for his game that can compile 500k lines per second on his
>> laptop. That’s cold compile, no intermediate caching, no incremental
>> builds.
>
> Nice talks - this looks very promising re the future of programming;
> e.g.
> youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZgbKrDEzAs -f243+251
>
>

Re: Forced Decrypt: US Judge Jails Defendant Six Months for Contempt re Phone Unlock

[\0xDynamite]

>> Cynicism has it's place
>
>   Also, are you still ignoring the basic, self-evident fact that suing the
> government using the governmnt's courts is A_B_S_U_R_D and S_E_L_F
> D_E_F_E_A_T_I_N_G ? Is that too hard to grasp?

Juan, you're a statist.  You're making everything of the People belong
to the Government.

>   Well, we both know you are just playing dumb because you lack basic
> intellectual honesty to admit that your argument is absurd.

Ho humm.

>   yes, you have to make a choice. Stop promoting your nazi government by
> barefacedly lying about it being 'accountable'

I didn't say it was accountable.  I was suggesting that the People
have to be the "accountants".

Please, stop talking.

Marcos