Re: Missing video from Jeffrey Epstein's first suicide.

2020-01-07 Thread Tom Busby
Cheers for the response.

If any of you find anything new, if you emailed me directly, I'd be really
grateful (i.e. not to the list in case I miss it due to my filter).

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 19:18, Greg Newby  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 06:56:42PM +0100, Tom Busby wrote:
> > can i confirm that this is the Venona archive merged with the 2000-2016
> > archive from this post:
> >
> > https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-July/042515.html
>
> Yes, exactly. There are some notes about sources, linked in via the
> listinfo page.
>
> > i.e. that we don't have a new, overlapping archive of the 90s period? I'm
> > assuming venona is still the only game in town for the 90s period.
>
> Correct. The venona .zip contents I used are dated 2003. Cryptome has a
> copy dated 2010 that is only different by a few bytes.
>
> We have not heard of other archives covering 1992-1998. All the other
> online archives seem to trace back to the same source.
>
> Something that is unfortunate about this is that, at the time, there were
> a bunch of different remailers (the number varied over time, but seems to
> have typically been around a half-dozen). Each CDR's archive would have
> been different: different spam, different headers and slight variations in
> time stamps.
>
> It seems that none of the other CDR archives are available, at least
> publicly. Only the venona one. This is part of why Jim has been reaching
> out to some of those CDR operators, and also long-time list subscribers.
> Any other archive would be expected to have material differences, at least
> with headers & spam.
>
> BTW, I joined the list in 2001, at the tail of the period above (and was
> on a couple of different CDRs over time). In the quest for archives from
> the 1990s I am an interested party, but not a source of any original
> materials.
>
>  - Greg
>
>
> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:54, Tom Busby  wrote:
> >
> > > oh fantastic, thank you very much. looks great.
> > >
> > > On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 04:00, Greg Newby  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dear Tom,
> > >>
> > >> You might be interested to see that I recently merged the archives.
> (I am
> > >> the current list operator.) You can find it browsable and a few other
> > >> formats. This spans September 1992-July 2013 in the cypherpunks-legacy
> > >> collection.
> > >>
> > >> The current (ongoing) list is in the main cypherpunks collection, from
> > >> 2013-present. They are both here:
> > >>
> > >>   https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo
> > >>
> > >> Announcement/description:
> > >>
> > >>
> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-December/078230.html
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >>   Greg
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 09:41:57PM +0100, Tom Busby wrote:
> > >> > I'm just a guy with a website. Believe me, it saddens me that so
> much is
> > >> > lost, that's why I originally started trying to piece it all
> together,
> > >> but
> > >> > my leads ran cold, and if you go look at the commit logs for crypto
> > >> > anarchy.wiki you'll see how little time I've had to work on it
> lately.
> > >> >
> > >> > In terms of whether this is deliberate forgery or just lost data, I
> > >> have no
> > >> > way of finding out because I don't have other copies of the archive
> to
> > >> > compare with. That's the only way to do it. And even then I can only
> > >> detect
> > >> > tampering, not innocent loss of data. I was under ten years old
> during
> > >> this
> > >> > period so I'm flying blind in terms of what it should look like.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm not a player in this drama, I'm just a guy who is mirroring
> what's
> > >> > available so that isn't lost too.
> > >> >
> > >> > I simply don't have the time to help you at the moment. I have too
> many
> > >> > other commitments. I haven't even found time to merge the
> 1999-onwards
> > >> > archive.
> > >> >
> > >> > If you find a lead on any of it, let me know. As far as I can tell,
> Ryan
> > >> > Lackey is the only one who can help you. This archive originates on
> > >> Venona.
> > >> > That I'm pretty sure about. If he won't respond to you, I don't know
> > >> what
> > >> > can be done. I really hope someone else finds an archive of this
> era,
> > >> > because it's the most important era for sure.
> > >> >
> > >> > But other than that, please bear in mind that I'm on your side. We
> both
> > >> > have the same goal: a complete, accurate archive. I've done what I
> can
> > >> so
> > >> > far. I won't have time to work on this actively in the near future.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, 20:27 jim bell,  wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Friday, January 3, 2020, 02:16:28 AM PST, Tom Busby
> > >> 
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >>And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh
> don't
> > >> > > seem to care
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >It's not that I don't care, I just don't know what I can do
> about it.
> > >> > > This appears to be the only copy of the archive available.
> > >> > >
> > 

Re: Missing video from Jeffrey Epstein's first suicide.

2020-01-06 Thread Greg Newby
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 06:56:42PM +0100, Tom Busby wrote:
> can i confirm that this is the Venona archive merged with the 2000-2016
> archive from this post:
> 
> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-July/042515.html

Yes, exactly. There are some notes about sources, linked in via the listinfo 
page.

> i.e. that we don't have a new, overlapping archive of the 90s period? I'm
> assuming venona is still the only game in town for the 90s period.

Correct. The venona .zip contents I used are dated 2003. Cryptome has a copy 
dated 2010 that is only different by a few bytes.

We have not heard of other archives covering 1992-1998. All the other online 
archives seem to trace back to the same source.

Something that is unfortunate about this is that, at the time, there were a 
bunch of different remailers (the number varied over time, but seems to have 
typically been around a half-dozen). Each CDR's archive would have been 
different: different spam, different headers and slight variations in time 
stamps. 

It seems that none of the other CDR archives are available, at least publicly. 
Only the venona one. This is part of why Jim has been reaching out to some of 
those CDR operators, and also long-time list subscribers. Any other archive 
would be expected to have material differences, at least with headers & spam.

BTW, I joined the list in 2001, at the tail of the period above (and was on a 
couple of different CDRs over time). In the quest for archives from the 1990s I 
am an interested party, but not a source of any original materials.

 - Greg


> On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:54, Tom Busby  wrote:
> 
> > oh fantastic, thank you very much. looks great.
> >
> > On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 04:00, Greg Newby  wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Tom,
> >>
> >> You might be interested to see that I recently merged the archives. (I am
> >> the current list operator.) You can find it browsable and a few other
> >> formats. This spans September 1992-July 2013 in the cypherpunks-legacy
> >> collection.
> >>
> >> The current (ongoing) list is in the main cypherpunks collection, from
> >> 2013-present. They are both here:
> >>
> >>   https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo
> >>
> >> Announcement/description:
> >>
> >> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-December/078230.html
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>   Greg
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 09:41:57PM +0100, Tom Busby wrote:
> >> > I'm just a guy with a website. Believe me, it saddens me that so much is
> >> > lost, that's why I originally started trying to piece it all together,
> >> but
> >> > my leads ran cold, and if you go look at the commit logs for crypto
> >> > anarchy.wiki you'll see how little time I've had to work on it lately.
> >> >
> >> > In terms of whether this is deliberate forgery or just lost data, I
> >> have no
> >> > way of finding out because I don't have other copies of the archive to
> >> > compare with. That's the only way to do it. And even then I can only
> >> detect
> >> > tampering, not innocent loss of data. I was under ten years old during
> >> this
> >> > period so I'm flying blind in terms of what it should look like.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not a player in this drama, I'm just a guy who is mirroring what's
> >> > available so that isn't lost too.
> >> >
> >> > I simply don't have the time to help you at the moment. I have too many
> >> > other commitments. I haven't even found time to merge the 1999-onwards
> >> > archive.
> >> >
> >> > If you find a lead on any of it, let me know. As far as I can tell, Ryan
> >> > Lackey is the only one who can help you. This archive originates on
> >> Venona.
> >> > That I'm pretty sure about. If he won't respond to you, I don't know
> >> what
> >> > can be done. I really hope someone else finds an archive of this era,
> >> > because it's the most important era for sure.
> >> >
> >> > But other than that, please bear in mind that I'm on your side. We both
> >> > have the same goal: a complete, accurate archive. I've done what I can
> >> so
> >> > far. I won't have time to work on this actively in the near future.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, 20:27 jim bell,  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Friday, January 3, 2020, 02:16:28 AM PST, Tom Busby
> >> 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >>And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't
> >> > > seem to care
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >It's not that I don't care, I just don't know what I can do about it.
> >> > > This appears to be the only copy of the archive available.
> >> > >
> >> > > >If anyone else has a more complete archive, send it to me and I'll
> >> merge
> >> > > it.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > You are thinking solely in terms of correcting the archive.   That's a
> >> > > limited view.  I'm thinking of finding out who is responsible for the
> >> > > well-planned omissions in the archive.  From where was the data
> >> obtained?
> >> > > When was the faking of the data done?   Who did it?  Why?
> >> > > Who had control 

Re: Missing video from Jeffrey Epstein's first suicide.

2020-01-06 Thread Tom Busby
can i confirm that this is the Venona archive merged with the 2000-2016
archive from this post:

https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2018-July/042515.html

i.e. that we don't have a new, overlapping archive of the 90s period? I'm
assuming venona is still the only game in town for the 90s period.

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 at 18:54, Tom Busby  wrote:

> oh fantastic, thank you very much. looks great.
>
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 04:00, Greg Newby  wrote:
>
>> Dear Tom,
>>
>> You might be interested to see that I recently merged the archives. (I am
>> the current list operator.) You can find it browsable and a few other
>> formats. This spans September 1992-July 2013 in the cypherpunks-legacy
>> collection.
>>
>> The current (ongoing) list is in the main cypherpunks collection, from
>> 2013-present. They are both here:
>>
>>   https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo
>>
>> Announcement/description:
>>
>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-December/078230.html
>>
>> Best,
>>   Greg
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 09:41:57PM +0100, Tom Busby wrote:
>> > I'm just a guy with a website. Believe me, it saddens me that so much is
>> > lost, that's why I originally started trying to piece it all together,
>> but
>> > my leads ran cold, and if you go look at the commit logs for crypto
>> > anarchy.wiki you'll see how little time I've had to work on it lately.
>> >
>> > In terms of whether this is deliberate forgery or just lost data, I
>> have no
>> > way of finding out because I don't have other copies of the archive to
>> > compare with. That's the only way to do it. And even then I can only
>> detect
>> > tampering, not innocent loss of data. I was under ten years old during
>> this
>> > period so I'm flying blind in terms of what it should look like.
>> >
>> > I'm not a player in this drama, I'm just a guy who is mirroring what's
>> > available so that isn't lost too.
>> >
>> > I simply don't have the time to help you at the moment. I have too many
>> > other commitments. I haven't even found time to merge the 1999-onwards
>> > archive.
>> >
>> > If you find a lead on any of it, let me know. As far as I can tell, Ryan
>> > Lackey is the only one who can help you. This archive originates on
>> Venona.
>> > That I'm pretty sure about. If he won't respond to you, I don't know
>> what
>> > can be done. I really hope someone else finds an archive of this era,
>> > because it's the most important era for sure.
>> >
>> > But other than that, please bear in mind that I'm on your side. We both
>> > have the same goal: a complete, accurate archive. I've done what I can
>> so
>> > far. I won't have time to work on this actively in the near future.
>> >
>> > On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, 20:27 jim bell,  wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Friday, January 3, 2020, 02:16:28 AM PST, Tom Busby
>> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >>And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't
>> > > seem to care
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >It's not that I don't care, I just don't know what I can do about it.
>> > > This appears to be the only copy of the archive available.
>> > >
>> > > >If anyone else has a more complete archive, send it to me and I'll
>> merge
>> > > it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > You are thinking solely in terms of correcting the archive.   That's a
>> > > limited view.  I'm thinking of finding out who is responsible for the
>> > > well-planned omissions in the archive.  From where was the data
>> obtained?
>> > > When was the faking of the data done?   Who did it?  Why?
>> > > Who had control of the Cypherpunks list during the 1995-2003 time
>> frame?
>> > > Was the data stored elsewhere, such as the Wayback Machine?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >   Jim Bell
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 08:25, jim bell  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Jeffrey Epstein: Surveillance Video From First Suicide Attempt
>> Missinghttps://
>> www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jeffrey-epstein-surveillance-video-first-184510141.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Jim Bell's comment:
>> > >
>> > > Missing, just like a few thousand postings to me, from me, about me,
>> and
>> > > any mentioning Assassination Politics in the 1995 Cypherpunks archive.
>> > >
>> > > And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't
>> seem
>> > > to care.  Neither does Brian Merchant nor Will Stephenson.
>> > >
>> > > Concealing the past by erasing the evidence is an old story.
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>


Re: Missing video from Jeffrey Epstein's first suicide.

2020-01-06 Thread Tom Busby
oh fantastic, thank you very much. looks great.

On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 04:00, Greg Newby  wrote:

> Dear Tom,
>
> You might be interested to see that I recently merged the archives. (I am
> the current list operator.) You can find it browsable and a few other
> formats. This spans September 1992-July 2013 in the cypherpunks-legacy
> collection.
>
> The current (ongoing) list is in the main cypherpunks collection, from
> 2013-present. They are both here:
>
>   https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo
>
> Announcement/description:
>   https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-December/078230.html
>
> Best,
>   Greg
>
> On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 09:41:57PM +0100, Tom Busby wrote:
> > I'm just a guy with a website. Believe me, it saddens me that so much is
> > lost, that's why I originally started trying to piece it all together,
> but
> > my leads ran cold, and if you go look at the commit logs for crypto
> > anarchy.wiki you'll see how little time I've had to work on it lately.
> >
> > In terms of whether this is deliberate forgery or just lost data, I have
> no
> > way of finding out because I don't have other copies of the archive to
> > compare with. That's the only way to do it. And even then I can only
> detect
> > tampering, not innocent loss of data. I was under ten years old during
> this
> > period so I'm flying blind in terms of what it should look like.
> >
> > I'm not a player in this drama, I'm just a guy who is mirroring what's
> > available so that isn't lost too.
> >
> > I simply don't have the time to help you at the moment. I have too many
> > other commitments. I haven't even found time to merge the 1999-onwards
> > archive.
> >
> > If you find a lead on any of it, let me know. As far as I can tell, Ryan
> > Lackey is the only one who can help you. This archive originates on
> Venona.
> > That I'm pretty sure about. If he won't respond to you, I don't know what
> > can be done. I really hope someone else finds an archive of this era,
> > because it's the most important era for sure.
> >
> > But other than that, please bear in mind that I'm on your side. We both
> > have the same goal: a complete, accurate archive. I've done what I can so
> > far. I won't have time to work on this actively in the near future.
> >
> > On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, 20:27 jim bell,  wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday, January 3, 2020, 02:16:28 AM PST, Tom Busby  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > >>And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't
> > > seem to care
> > >
> > >
> > > >It's not that I don't care, I just don't know what I can do about it.
> > > This appears to be the only copy of the archive available.
> > >
> > > >If anyone else has a more complete archive, send it to me and I'll
> merge
> > > it.
> > >
> > >
> > > You are thinking solely in terms of correcting the archive.   That's a
> > > limited view.  I'm thinking of finding out who is responsible for the
> > > well-planned omissions in the archive.  From where was the data
> obtained?
> > > When was the faking of the data done?   Who did it?  Why?
> > > Who had control of the Cypherpunks list during the 1995-2003 time
> frame?
> > > Was the data stored elsewhere, such as the Wayback Machine?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   Jim Bell
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 08:25, jim bell  wrote:
> > >
> > > Jeffrey Epstein: Surveillance Video From First Suicide Attempt
> Missinghttps://
> www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jeffrey-epstein-surveillance-video-first-184510141.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim Bell's comment:
> > >
> > > Missing, just like a few thousand postings to me, from me, about me,
> and
> > > any mentioning Assassination Politics in the 1995 Cypherpunks archive.
> > >
> > > And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't
> seem
> > > to care.  Neither does Brian Merchant nor Will Stephenson.
> > >
> > > Concealing the past by erasing the evidence is an old story.
> > >
> > >
>


Re: Missing video from Jeffrey Epstein's first suicide.

2020-01-04 Thread Greg Newby
Dear Tom,

You might be interested to see that I recently merged the archives. (I am the 
current list operator.) You can find it browsable and a few other formats. This 
spans September 1992-July 2013 in the cypherpunks-legacy collection. 

The current (ongoing) list is in the main cypherpunks collection, from 
2013-present. They are both here:

  https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo

Announcement/description: 
  https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-December/078230.html

Best,
  Greg

On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 09:41:57PM +0100, Tom Busby wrote:
> I'm just a guy with a website. Believe me, it saddens me that so much is
> lost, that's why I originally started trying to piece it all together, but
> my leads ran cold, and if you go look at the commit logs for crypto
> anarchy.wiki you'll see how little time I've had to work on it lately.
> 
> In terms of whether this is deliberate forgery or just lost data, I have no
> way of finding out because I don't have other copies of the archive to
> compare with. That's the only way to do it. And even then I can only detect
> tampering, not innocent loss of data. I was under ten years old during this
> period so I'm flying blind in terms of what it should look like.
> 
> I'm not a player in this drama, I'm just a guy who is mirroring what's
> available so that isn't lost too.
> 
> I simply don't have the time to help you at the moment. I have too many
> other commitments. I haven't even found time to merge the 1999-onwards
> archive.
> 
> If you find a lead on any of it, let me know. As far as I can tell, Ryan
> Lackey is the only one who can help you. This archive originates on Venona.
> That I'm pretty sure about. If he won't respond to you, I don't know what
> can be done. I really hope someone else finds an archive of this era,
> because it's the most important era for sure.
> 
> But other than that, please bear in mind that I'm on your side. We both
> have the same goal: a complete, accurate archive. I've done what I can so
> far. I won't have time to work on this actively in the near future.
> 
> On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, 20:27 jim bell,  wrote:
> 
> > On Friday, January 3, 2020, 02:16:28 AM PST, Tom Busby 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > >>And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't
> > seem to care
> >
> >
> > >It's not that I don't care, I just don't know what I can do about it.
> > This appears to be the only copy of the archive available.
> >
> > >If anyone else has a more complete archive, send it to me and I'll merge
> > it.
> >
> >
> > You are thinking solely in terms of correcting the archive.   That's a
> > limited view.  I'm thinking of finding out who is responsible for the
> > well-planned omissions in the archive.  From where was the data obtained?
> > When was the faking of the data done?   Who did it?  Why?
> > Who had control of the Cypherpunks list during the 1995-2003 time frame?
> > Was the data stored elsewhere, such as the Wayback Machine?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   Jim Bell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 08:25, jim bell  wrote:
> >
> > Jeffrey Epstein: Surveillance Video From First Suicide Attempt 
> > Missinghttps://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jeffrey-epstein-surveillance-video-first-184510141.html
> >
> >
> > Jim Bell's comment:
> >
> > Missing, just like a few thousand postings to me, from me, about me, and
> > any mentioning Assassination Politics in the 1995 Cypherpunks archive.
> >
> > And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't seem
> > to care.  Neither does Brian Merchant nor Will Stephenson.
> >
> > Concealing the past by erasing the evidence is an old story.
> >
> >


Re: Missing video from Jeffrey Epstein's first suicide.

2020-01-04 Thread Tom Busby
I'm just a guy with a website. Believe me, it saddens me that so much is
lost, that's why I originally started trying to piece it all together, but
my leads ran cold, and if you go look at the commit logs for crypto
anarchy.wiki you'll see how little time I've had to work on it lately.

In terms of whether this is deliberate forgery or just lost data, I have no
way of finding out because I don't have other copies of the archive to
compare with. That's the only way to do it. And even then I can only detect
tampering, not innocent loss of data. I was under ten years old during this
period so I'm flying blind in terms of what it should look like.

I'm not a player in this drama, I'm just a guy who is mirroring what's
available so that isn't lost too.

I simply don't have the time to help you at the moment. I have too many
other commitments. I haven't even found time to merge the 1999-onwards
archive.

If you find a lead on any of it, let me know. As far as I can tell, Ryan
Lackey is the only one who can help you. This archive originates on Venona.
That I'm pretty sure about. If he won't respond to you, I don't know what
can be done. I really hope someone else finds an archive of this era,
because it's the most important era for sure.

But other than that, please bear in mind that I'm on your side. We both
have the same goal: a complete, accurate archive. I've done what I can so
far. I won't have time to work on this actively in the near future.

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020, 20:27 jim bell,  wrote:

> On Friday, January 3, 2020, 02:16:28 AM PST, Tom Busby 
> wrote:
>
>
> >>And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't
> seem to care
>
>
> >It's not that I don't care, I just don't know what I can do about it.
> This appears to be the only copy of the archive available.
>
> >If anyone else has a more complete archive, send it to me and I'll merge
> it.
>
>
> You are thinking solely in terms of correcting the archive.   That's a
> limited view.  I'm thinking of finding out who is responsible for the
> well-planned omissions in the archive.  From where was the data obtained?
> When was the faking of the data done?   Who did it?  Why?
> Who had control of the Cypherpunks list during the 1995-2003 time frame?
> Was the data stored elsewhere, such as the Wayback Machine?
>
>
>
>
>   Jim Bell
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 08:25, jim bell  wrote:
>
> Jeffrey Epstein: Surveillance Video From First Suicide Attempt 
> Missinghttps://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jeffrey-epstein-surveillance-video-first-184510141.html
>
>
> Jim Bell's comment:
>
> Missing, just like a few thousand postings to me, from me, about me, and
> any mentioning Assassination Politics in the 1995 Cypherpunks archive.
>
> And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't seem
> to care.  Neither does Brian Merchant nor Will Stephenson.
>
> Concealing the past by erasing the evidence is an old story.
>
>


Re: Missing video from Jeffrey Epstein's first suicide.

2020-01-03 Thread Razer
I don't give a fuck about your pervert fetish and you just became toast
for not addressing you email in a manner that filters to the list folder
in my email software. In other words, you wrote a PERSONAL FUCKING EMAIL
and Cc:'d it to the list. Are you a moron? Don't you unbderfuckingstand
how lists work?

Just more trash in my inbox afaic.

Rr





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Re: Missing video from Jeffrey Epstein's first suicide.

2020-01-03 Thread jim bell
 On Friday, January 3, 2020, 02:16:28 AM PST, Tom Busby  wrote:
 
 
 
>>And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't seem to 
>>care


>It's not that I don't care, I just don't know what I can do about it. This 
>appears to be the only copy of the archive available.
>If anyone else has a more complete archive, send it to me and I'll merge it. 

You are thinking solely in terms of correcting the archive.   That's a limited 
view.  I'm thinking of finding out who is responsible for the well-planned 
omissions in the archive.  From where was the data obtained?  When was the 
faking of the data done?   Who did it?  Why?Who had control of the Cypherpunks 
list during the 1995-2003 time frame?  Was the data stored elsewhere, such as 
the Wayback Machine?



                      Jim Bell



On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 08:25, jim bell  wrote:

Jeffrey Epstein: Surveillance Video From First Suicide Attempt Missing
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jeffrey-epstein-surveillance-video-first-184510141.html
Jim Bell's comment:
Missing, just like a few thousand postings to me, from me, about me, and any 
mentioning Assassination Politics in the 1995 Cypherpunks archive.
And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't seem to 
care.  Neither does Brian Merchant nor Will Stephenson.
Concealing the past by erasing the evidence is an old story.
  

Re: Missing video from Jeffrey Epstein's first suicide.

2020-01-03 Thread Tom Busby
>
> And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't seem
> to care
>

It's not that I don't care, I just don't know what I can do about it. This
appears to be the only copy of the archive available.

If anyone else has a more complete archive, send it to me and I'll merge
it.

On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 08:25, jim bell  wrote:

> Jeffrey Epstein: Surveillance Video From First Suicide Attempt 
> Missinghttps://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jeffrey-epstein-surveillance-video-first-184510141.html
>
>
> Jim Bell's comment:
>
> Missing, just like a few thousand postings to me, from me, about me, and
> any mentioning Assassination Politics in the 1995 Cypherpunks archive.
>
> And John Gilmore, Ryan Lackey, Tom Busby, and Declan McCullagh don't seem
> to care.  Neither does Brian Merchant nor Will Stephenson.
>
> Concealing the past by erasing the evidence is an old story.
>


Re: Missing video from Jeffrey Epstein's first suicide.

2019-12-20 Thread grarpamp
>   Maybe you can try locating Hugh Daniel?

He's dead.
Though who knows what data may live on.