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On 6 Jul 2001, Craig Brozefsky wrote: So are you being sarcastic or are you really failing to understand that Black Blocs are a short-term tactic for possibly illegal operations on the street in an environment full of police, and not some demonstrative symbol of anarchist philosophy representing their vision of society? I would have to be flatlining pretty bad in order not to see that. But as the protection afforded by Black Blocs is quite thin (just indict them under organized crime or gang laws), the excercise has publicity stunt written all over it, and they *are* still undeniably broadcasting a message telling Black Blockers are willing to operate in ways diametrically opposed to the core anachist ideology, the whole thing seems both clueless and untrustworthy. I think those are precisely the criteria sarcasm was invented to be applied by. Sampo Syreeni, aka decoy, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED], gsm: +358-50-5756111 student/math+cs/helsinki university, http://www.iki.fi/~decoy/front
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At 04:52 PM 7/6/01 -0400, Faustine wrote: A few acts of vandalism isn't exactly anything I'd call significant. Yes the smells-like-teen-spirit-'anarchists' are good for little more than a laugh, though they're setting themselves up as the next domestic boogeymen after the militia fades from view. The Bloc is just a rung on the career ladder of an up and coming Fed. Easy meat, low hanging fruit, teenagers strung out from Robo sessions 'cause Jenna has their fake ID. The Earth First and ALF folks are a little more effective, and direct, and a lot less theatrical ---though leaving a golf ball with a circle-A on it after you torch a place is a cute, if risky, touch. They are more righteous, too; the anti-WTO folks are all about simple, dirty money. Yawn. EF/ALF can approach religious zealousness, though no one has intentionally self-martyr'd yet. it's kind of sad that you really think anyone with real power and influence actually gives a damn about anything that happens at these protests to begin with. Its sadder actually to consider the mindset of the protesters who take themselves seriously. Maybe the Feds will arrange to have more entertaining MTV broadcast during the next Summits, to keep Biff Buffy home.
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Sampo Syreeni wrote: the protection afforded by Black Blocs is quite thin (just indict them under organized crime or gang laws), The similar clothing is enough to charge with gang membership and invoke RICO. Also, the 'black bloc' tactic has 'premeditated' written all over it. I'd say these kids haven't provided more protection for themselves; on the contrary, they've raised the stakes. The cops will have to arrest *more* people in order to deal with the bloc, but the people arrested when it happens are going to be charged with more serious crimes, like racketeering, conspiracy, and membership in a corrupt organization, than if they'd stuck with the simpler tactics. And most of what they might otherwise have claimed as defenses are going to crumble under that 'premeditation' thing. I'm not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV, but this just looks like a silly mistake that's going to bite them in the butt to me. Bear
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