The plagues are Mosaic asymmetric attacks, not biological
At 05:21 PM 10/31/04 -0800, John Young wrote: To state the obvious to Major Variola, CDC will have first indication of a devastating US attack, reported fragmentarily under its links to hospitals, clinics and physicians, against which the might military and law enforcement have no defenses. You thought I meant bio plagues?! Jeezus John, is your metaphorizer broken? Any bio hazard is accidental, or Detrick, not Osama. A *succession of attacks against the Empire* is what I mean, alluding to the Jews attacking the Pharaoh, until he let them alone.Pharoah=US, Moses=UBL, Jews=Moslems. Get your head around that one. News: The infectious biological attack will be an accident of the modularity and recombination of influenza on some chinese duck/pig/human farm. It will not be intentional but it will kill a lot before the vaccine can be produced, which takes ca. 6 mos.. See 1918 pandemic, and add jet airplanes. A recent _Science_ article described a model of this. You are one or two days away from that duck/pig/human incubator nowadays, no matter where you live. That will happen, but it won't be intentional. The geopoli implications will be fun, but UBL is not involved there. Observation: A non-infectious biological attack (eg anthrax which isn't infectious) is cheap, but not Al Q's preferred MO. They go for the special effects type attacks, simultaneous so you know its them. (Otherwise it could be a suicical egyptian, a rudder jerked too hard, a screw-jack improperly lubricated, the NTSC is very creative.) Of course the Ft Detrick folks enjoy sending the occasional sporulated letter to senators, but hey, their funding was running out, you do what you gotta do. Implementation: A chem attack is pretty nifty, and in many ways easier than fission or RDDs. Since there are so many chems moving around, and rad sources are so easy to detect, by virtue of the energy of the emissions, and controlled/surveilled materials. A tanker into a school is double the fun, its been years since Columbine, and the underbelly is itching for a scratch. (Again, you need to pull off 2 the same day.) I wonder if there is a school that enrolls only first born sons, that would be interesting to read about in your mosaic er netscape er IE browser, eh? Since your allusion-detector is broken, mosaic, get it? History: Let my people go and taking a beating only works if you have wannabe-moral brits who want to divest anyway and your name is Ghandi. Otherwise the biblical plagues, aka asymmetric attack, approach is guaranteed to work in the limit. All you need is enough popular support. Its there. It only took 200 dead marines and one bomb to evict us from Lebanon, maybe 50K corpses for S. Nam, don't know about N Korea, but do the math. .mil are disposable, but they have families that whine and vote. And the press is not *entirely* 0wn3d by the .gov, yet. Conclusion: Again, the Mosaic approach of repeated asymmetric attacks on the Pharoah is what Al Q is up to. Eventually the Pharoah/US gets fed up and says fuck it. Maybe not this election, but eventually, and Al has time. GW has only 4 more years, at best, and Rummy Cheney are scheduled for a box in the ground pretty soon. Wolfy has more time, but after a few more kilocorpses will lose power with Joe Sixpack and Joe's post-Bush leader. Operation Just Cause Just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I have to ignore Egyptian/Hebrew history. Just because I live here doesn't mean I don't think the US deserves the treatment that any Empire deserves. Just because I'm an American doesn't mean I can't use sophisticated allusions. Just because I say Mosaic Plagues doesn't mean I'm talking about frogs locusts. Dig?
Re: Winning still matters, etc...
-- John Young wrote: There is a decreasing chance the US can apply its military might to defeat an unconventional enemy. That kind of enemy is not what long-standing military strategy and most tactics are aimed at. Rumsfeld was hoping to revise that when yet one more mighty military war appeared to head off changing military policy. The US never intended to use its military might to defeat an unconventional enemy. It intended to use its military might in the entirely conventional way to destroy or deter governments that foster terrorism, as was accomplished very successfully in Afghanistan. Regime change in Iraq was supposed to deter Syria and Iran, but they have not in fact been deterred. Saudi Arabia and Libya have been deterred. Indonesia has changed its policy on terror, but it is unclear whether this was the result of the spectacle of Saddam and his bullet ridden sons or honest soul searching. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG nVs3V7urdcH8GOjfhlNYzb0/JWqCDKupA3RE8WE3 4YdwLgC/LWPMsXcHeSFlqJW/NrcK/eDjuprNNcJok
RE: The plagues are Mosaic asymmetric attacks, not biological
Variola wrote... Again, the Mosaic approach of repeated asymmetric attacks on the Pharoah is what Al Q is up to. Eventually the Pharoah/US gets fed up and says fuck it. Maybe not this election, but eventually, and Al has time. GW has only 4 more years, at best, and Rummy Cheney are scheduled for a box in the ground pretty soon. Wolfy has more time, but after a few more kilocorpses will lose power with Joe Sixpack and Joe's post-Bush leader. I think that's pretty on the money. Terrorism doesn't actually need to affect any single Head Bandit, but after a regime change or two and a pullout occurs the new Bandit can say We meant to do that anyway. The French and Algeria is a great example. The Mosaic analogy was a good one, too, and not even original: See John Adams' The Death of Leon Klinghoffer and you'll know why it took so much heathaving Palestinians singing phrases from Exodus and Psalms was just a little too much for the music-funding establishment. It says a lot, however, that the guy still gets commissions. -TD Oh Kent! I'd be lying if I said my men didn't commit any crimes! -Homer Simpson Touche. -Kent Brockman From: Major Variola (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The plagues are Mosaic asymmetric attacks, not biological Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 21:11:55 -0800 At 05:21 PM 10/31/04 -0800, John Young wrote: To state the obvious to Major Variola, CDC will have first indication of a devastating US attack, reported fragmentarily under its links to hospitals, clinics and physicians, against which the might military and law enforcement have no defenses. You thought I meant bio plagues?! Jeezus John, is your metaphorizer broken? Any bio hazard is accidental, or Detrick, not Osama. A *succession of attacks against the Empire* is what I mean, alluding to the Jews attacking the Pharaoh, until he let them alone.Pharoah=US, Moses=UBL, Jews=Moslems. Get your head around that one. News: The infectious biological attack will be an accident of the modularity and recombination of influenza on some chinese duck/pig/human farm. It will not be intentional but it will kill a lot before the vaccine can be produced, which takes ca. 6 mos.. See 1918 pandemic, and add jet airplanes. A recent _Science_ article described a model of this. You are one or two days away from that duck/pig/human incubator nowadays, no matter where you live. That will happen, but it won't be intentional. The geopoli implications will be fun, but UBL is not involved there. Observation: A non-infectious biological attack (eg anthrax which isn't infectious) is cheap, but not Al Q's preferred MO. They go for the special effects type attacks, simultaneous so you know its them. (Otherwise it could be a suicical egyptian, a rudder jerked too hard, a screw-jack improperly lubricated, the NTSC is very creative.) Of course the Ft Detrick folks enjoy sending the occasional sporulated letter to senators, but hey, their funding was running out, you do what you gotta do. Implementation: A chem attack is pretty nifty, and in many ways easier than fission or RDDs. Since there are so many chems moving around, and rad sources are so easy to detect, by virtue of the energy of the emissions, and controlled/surveilled materials. A tanker into a school is double the fun, its been years since Columbine, and the underbelly is itching for a scratch. (Again, you need to pull off 2 the same day.) I wonder if there is a school that enrolls only first born sons, that would be interesting to read about in your mosaic er netscape er IE browser, eh? Since your allusion-detector is broken, mosaic, get it? History: Let my people go and taking a beating only works if you have wannabe-moral brits who want to divest anyway and your name is Ghandi. Otherwise the biblical plagues, aka asymmetric attack, approach is guaranteed to work in the limit. All you need is enough popular support. Its there. It only took 200 dead marines and one bomb to evict us from Lebanon, maybe 50K corpses for S. Nam, don't know about N Korea, but do the math. .mil are disposable, but they have families that whine and vote. And the press is not *entirely* 0wn3d by the .gov, yet. Conclusion: Again, the Mosaic approach of repeated asymmetric attacks on the Pharoah is what Al Q is up to. Eventually the Pharoah/US gets fed up and says fuck it. Maybe not this election, but eventually, and Al has time. GW has only 4 more years, at best, and Rummy Cheney are scheduled for a box in the ground pretty soon. Wolfy has more time, but after a few more kilocorpses will lose power with Joe Sixpack and Joe's post-Bush leader. Operation Just Cause Just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I have to ignore Egyptian/Hebrew history. Just because I live here doesn't mean I don't think the US deserves the treatment that any Empire deserves. Just because I'm an American doesn't mean I can't use sophisticated allusions. Just because I say Mosaic
Re: Ask yourselves why we didn't attack Sweden
At 8:15 PM + 11/1/04, ken wrote: HUMAN EVENTS ONLINE: The National Conservative Weekly Since 1944 [Heap of transparent murderous lies snipped] If you ever take a logic class, :-), that's an informal fallacy called an ad hominem. That would be like me disregarding anything you say because your email address was [EMAIL PROTECTED]. ;-) Cheers, RAH -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
Re: Ask yourselves why we didn't attack Sweden
R.A. Hettinga wrote: At 9:09 PM -0700 10/30/04, Major Variola (ret) wrote: I'm surprised the Ask yourselves why we didn't attack Sweden comment isn't discussed more http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?print=yesid=5096 HUMAN EVENTS ONLINE: The National Conservative Weekly Since 1944 [Heap of transparent murderous lies snipped] O dear, I seem to have snipped all of it. There was no content there at all.
Re: Ask yourselves why we didn't attack Sweden
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, R.A. Hettinga wrote: At 8:15 PM + 11/1/04, ken wrote: HUMAN EVENTS ONLINE: The National Conservative Weekly Since 1944 [Heap of transparent murderous lies snipped] If you ever take a logic class, :-), that's an informal fallacy called an ad hominem. That would be like me disregarding anything you say because your email address was [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Which is almost as bad as making arguments, and then refusing to defend them in the face of opposition (geodesic cowardice). ;-) Cheers, RAH -- Yours, J.A. Terranson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0xBD4A95BF An ill wind is stalking while evil stars whir and all the gold apples go bad to the core S. Plath, Temper of Time
Re: Geodesic neoconservative empire
Bill Stewart wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, James A. Donald wrote:
This presupposes the US intends to rule Afghanistan and Iraq,
which is manifestly false.
Since this chain started by ragging on RAH about it being a
_geodesic_ neo-{Khan, con-men} empire, you're both correct -
there isn't a conflict between ruling them by proxy
and not ruling them directly
Most all empires that lasted more than a few decades used indirect
rule (famous big exception China - though not always and they had
to endure generations of collapse between each advance)
Rome Britain just best known.
Read up on Lord Lugard.
Re: Geodesic neoconservative empire
At 8:29 PM + 11/1/04, ken wrote: Read up on Lord Lugard. Oh. I get it. September came two months later this year across the pond... Cheers, RAH Foghorn-LeghornNow, *that*, I say, *that*, son, is an ad hominem.../F-L -- - R. A. Hettinga mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation http://www.ibuc.com/ 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA ... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience. -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'
