Re: CDR: Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-04 Thread Jim Choate

On Sat, 4 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote:

 how do you know that apples and oranges are not same
 or are same?
 Its the way you look at it.

No, ever see Apple and Oranges cross-breed? -THEY- look at it that way
too. So there -is- something there to the cladistic viewpoint.


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Re: CDR: Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-04 Thread Sarad AV
hi,


--- Jim Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote:
 
  As you already see-what you say is correct for
 your
  definition of proof and axiom.
 
 Here is the fundamental error in your thinking, you
 are trying to argue
 apples and oranges. 

how do you know that apples and oranges are not same
or are same?
Its the way you look at it.

Its where what ur definition of an apple and orange is
-how you interpret your apples and oranges and how you
see your apples and oranges. 

As my comments alude to, what
 you are doing is trying
 to argue geometry using two different 5th's -at the
 same time-. While it
 was certainly done historically for a considerable
 amount of time, that
 itself is a logical contradiction. There are two
 choices:

There is no contadiction-there is more than one
solution to a problem-we just have to accept that.

 
 - demonstrate the two are equivalent, and we go
 forward with our
   little game

ofcourse-i am least interested in  games.I am trying
to understand things better.

 
 - recognize they are not equivalent, and we end the
 discussion
   because there is really no discussion to be had
 
 Your choice.

I did n't say they are equivalent-simply said that
there is more than one way at looking at it and there
is more than one solution to a problem which are not
equivalent since their *domain* is different .


Regards Sarath.

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Re: CDR: Re: Many Worlds Version of Fermi Paradox

2003-01-03 Thread Jim Choate

On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sarad AV wrote:

 As you already see-what you say is correct for your
 definition of proof and axiom.

Here is the fundamental error in your thinking, you are trying to argue
apples and oranges. As my comments alude to, what you are doing is trying
to argue geometry using two different 5th's -at the same time-. While it
was certainly done historically for a considerable amount of time, that
itself is a logical contradiction. There are two choices:

-   demonstrate the two are equivalent, and we go forward with our
little game

-   recognize they are not equivalent, and we end the discussion
because there is really no discussion to be had

Your choice.


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