Re: School of the future

2003-02-20 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 10:54:47AM -, David Howe wrote:
 at Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:04 AM, Harmon Seaver
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] was seen to say:
  The real school of the future won't have classrooms at all, and no
  teachers as we now know them. Instead there will be workstations
  with VR helmets and a number of software gurus in the machine
  tailoring themselves to the individual students needs and
  personality. The machine will never be tired or grumpy or just having
  a bad day or serious personality problems like human teachers.
 They would if I wrote them :)
 Some days you need a kind, understanding, sympathetic teacher; others,
 you need the Scary kind :)

That's the socio/psych aspect of the teacher/student relationship which has
little to do with the actual functions of imparting and learning
information. Better to have part of the day spent with a shrink in group
counseling sessions inbetween time on machine. Since the info would be learned
at least 10x faster, they'd have plenty of time for that, or hands on shop
classes, etc. 



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Re: School of the future

2003-02-20 Thread David Howe
at Thursday, February 20, 2003 2:04 AM, Harmon Seaver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] was seen to say:
 The real school of the future won't have classrooms at all, and no
 teachers as we now know them. Instead there will be workstations
 with VR helmets and a number of software gurus in the machine
 tailoring themselves to the individual students needs and
 personality. The machine will never be tired or grumpy or just having
 a bad day or serious personality problems like human teachers.
They would if I wrote them :)
Some days you need a kind, understanding, sympathetic teacher; others,
you need the Scary kind :)




Re: School of the future

2003-02-19 Thread Mike Rosing
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Harmon Seaver wrote:

 The real school of the future won't have classrooms at all, and no
 teachers as we now know them. Instead there will be workstations with VR
 helmets and a number of software gurus in the machine tailoring themselves to
 the individual students needs and personality. The machine will never be tired
 or grumpy or just having a bad day or serious personality problems like human
 teachers. The software will have the same entrancing allure of good computer
 games with the addition of sounds and light patterns of our present day mind
 machines to adjust brain waves to optimal receptivity and retainment, and
 function in the well-proven pattern of learning by feeding information, testing,
 feeding more info or reviewing areas as needed, and just as fast, or as slow, as
 each student requires.
 There will be no inattentive students, time on the machine will be the
 highlight of their week, and they'll probably be able to get more actual
 learning done in 4-5 hours as they now do in a week. And we could have these
 schools in place today with today's hardware -- all we need is someone to write
 the software.

This reminds me of the mind link hardware I suggested to Tim Leary when
he came to Chicago a decade back.  Let's keep the classroom, just spread
it out over the net.  Grumpyness isn't always a bad thing, it seems to
create a lot of entertainment on this list anyway :-)

Patience, persistence, truth,
Dr. mike




School of the future

2003-02-19 Thread Tyler Durden
Teenager have the same right to self defense that adults do.  Why
would any sane kid want to go into one of those war zones unarmed?
Why would any sane parent allow them to do so?
Well, OK. But also don't expect anyone to teach 'em (at least not someone 
that can possibly find work elsewhere!)

Or,  having a bullet-proof plexiglass wall between the teacher and 
'students' could work. Bullhorns would also broadcast the lesson louder 
than kids could shout so that those that want to learn, could. Watercannon 
are also positioned so that the teacher can brake up any fights. (All part 
of the School of the Future devised by me and some friends.)

-TD







From: david [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: The burn-off of twenty million useless eaters and 
minorities
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 21:23:04 -0500

On Tuesday 18 February 2003 20:16, Bill wrote:

 At 5:53 PM -0800 2/17/03, Tyler Durden wrote:
 Any kid coming to school
 with a knife or gun gets thrown out, period.

 Gee, when I was in high school, I was on the high school rifle
 team.  I still have the varsity letter with the crossed rifles on
 it.  Our ammo was paid for by the US military, who wanted
 recruits who could shoot.  I brought my gun to school at the
 beginning of the season, and took it home at the end.

Teenager have the same right to self defense that adults do.  Why
would any sane kid want to go into one of those war zones unarmed?
Why would any sane parent allow them to do so?
David Neilson


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Re: School of the future

2003-02-19 Thread Harmon Seaver
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 03:28:37PM -0500, Tyler Durden wrote:
 Or,  having a bullet-proof plexiglass wall between the teacher and 
 'students' could work. Bullhorns would also broadcast the lesson louder 
 than kids could shout so that those that want to learn, could. Watercannon 
 are also positioned so that the teacher can brake up any fights. (All 
 part of the School of the Future devised by me and some friends.)
 
The real school of the future won't have classrooms at all, and no
teachers as we now know them. Instead there will be workstations with VR
helmets and a number of software gurus in the machine tailoring themselves to
the individual students needs and personality. The machine will never be tired
or grumpy or just having a bad day or serious personality problems like human
teachers. The software will have the same entrancing allure of good computer
games with the addition of sounds and light patterns of our present day mind
machines to adjust brain waves to optimal receptivity and retainment, and
function in the well-proven pattern of learning by feeding information, testing,
feeding more info or reviewing areas as needed, and just as fast, or as slow, as
each student requires.
There will be no inattentive students, time on the machine will be the
highlight of their week, and they'll probably be able to get more actual
learning done in 4-5 hours as they now do in a week. And we could have these
schools in place today with today's hardware -- all we need is someone to write
the software. 



-- 
Harmon Seaver   
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com