RE:[czernowitz-l] The Jewish Cemetery of Radautz (4,056 km)

[Rennert Gad]

Many thanks to all people who worked hard to document the Jewish community of 
Radautz (including wonderful Dorin who unfortunately passed away unexpectedly 
just a week before I was supposed to meet with him in Radautz). Most of my 
family was actually born in Radautz (even if many moved afterwards to CZ) and 
some are buried in the local cemetery (we re-built her tomb-stone which 
collapsed). I am still intrigued about the pedigree Katz in Radautz which I 
have not managed to decipher. There is a whole line of tombstones with the last 
name Katz (including my great grand mother Pessi Rennert, ne: Katz) but I can’t 
identify any siblings and generations of them.

Gadi Rennert

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Subject: [czernowitz-l] The Jewish Cemetery of Radautz (4,056 km)

Czernowitzers, dear friends,

Radautz, 14th stage of my „Journey Along the New Iron Curtain“. Radautz, of 
course, was not the capital of Bukovina, and yet the stonemasonry in the Jewish 
Cemetery of Radautz testifies to the significance that the Jewish community 
once had here:

http://hauster.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-jewish-cemetery-of-radautz-4056-km.html

I dare to say that there is no other place in Bukovina than Radautz where the 
Jewish Heritage is so well documented. In years of meticulous work, Yossi 
Yagur, supported by his wife Miriam and Bondy Stenzler have managed to record 
the gravestones on the basis of photographs, transcribe the inscriptions and 
match them with the civil registers. The results of this literally monumental 
task can be found here:

Project Description: http://hauster.de/data/TJCRver2021.pdf
JewishGen Database: https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/
Cemetery Maps: http://hauster.de/data/LotByLot.pdf

It also took us years to present the results of the Seven Seals Project. What 
is behind it? The late Dorin Fränkel and I digitized the civil registers of 
Radautz for the period 1857-1929, my wife Martina did the transcription, while 
Bruce Reisch, supported by his son Lucas, developed the search engines.

Project Description: 
http://czernowitz.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-radautz-vital-records-index.html
Births: 
https://www.reisch-family.net/RadautzBirthRegistersIndex/BirthsSearchForm.html
Marriages: 
https://www.reisch-family.net/SevenSealsLukePHP/SevenSealsMarriages.html
Deaths: 
https://www.reisch-family.net/SevenSealsRadautzDeathIndex/SearchForm.html

Enjoy, next stop: Sighetu Marmației

Edgar Hauster [iPad]



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RE:[czernowitz-l] Transnistrien

[Rennert Gad]

Thank you Florence for sending.
The movie is done well given the limited filmed materials of the time and area.
Requires understanding of German .
Worthwhile watching (35 minutes)

Gadi Rennert

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Subject: [czernowitz-l] Transnistrien

https://youtu.be/n0g_bwmJZAw



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[czernowitz-l] RE: [czernowitz-l] Re: Film Premiere: "Forgotten Holocaust in Transnistria" • 14.12.2022, 7 pm [UTC +1] • University of Innsbruck and as Live-Stream

[Rennert Gad]

I didn’t notice that there were also versions in English and other languages. 
It is definitely the day to remember the many family members who perished in 
Mogilev Podolsk and Bershad
For me: my grandfather Michael Rennert, grandmother Rosa Rennert(ne. Dlugacz), 
my great-grandmother Peppi Dlugacz, My parents' uncles and aunts, Adolf Rennert 
(and his children Sidi and Arie), Soffie Rennert, Villy Liquornick and more 
תנצב"ה

Gadi Rennert

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 On Behalf Of Edgar Hauster
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2023 3:03 PM
To: Miriam Suss ; Edgar Hauster 
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ka...@karinp.co.uk; Edgar Auslander 
Subject: [czernowitz-l] RE: [czernowitz-l] Re: Film Premiere: "Forgotten 
Holocaust in Transnistria" • 14.12.2022, 7 pm [UTC +1] • University of 
Innsbruck and as Live-Stream

Czernowitzers, dear friends...

In December 2022, the University of Innsbruck in Austria invited to the 
premiere of the documentary film "Forgotten Holocaust in Transnistria". Not 
everyone, including me, could watch the 35-minute film without any problems. On 
the occasion of today's International Holocaust Remembrance Day, the IKGS has 
thankfully put the film online, in five different versions at once.

Forgotten Holocaust - A Journey to Transnistria (original German version)
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Forgotten Holocaust - A Journey to Transnistria (complete with German subtitles)
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Forgotten Holocaust - A Journey to Transnistria (with English subtitles).
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DLGZaSXLzIjk&data=05%7C01%7Crennert%40technion.ac.il%7Cf246bc0831034f74878f08db00672f92%7Cf1502c4cee2e411c9715c855f6753b84%7C1%7C0%7C638104215858802920%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KPEZOgzGA2R%2Fn5yqgs2usGjAW8JxJ4sjpb2qJUyPcjs%3D&reserved=0

Забутий Голокост - подорож Трансністрією (with Ukrainian subtitles).
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Holocaustul uitat - O călătorie în Transnistria (with Romanian subtitles).
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Choose the best option for you and let us remember our relatives and friends 
who were victims of the Holocaust; for me it was, among others, my uncle 
Maximilian Hauster who was murdered in Auschwitz.

Edgar Hauster [MacBook]


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Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2022 10:51
To: Miriam Suss
Cc: czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu; diana shulman; ka...@karinp.co.uk; Edgar 
Auslander
Subject: [czernowitz-l] Re: [czernowitz-l] RE: [czernowitz-l] RE: 
[czernowitz-l] Re: Film Premiere: "Forgotten Holocaust in Transnistria" • 
14.12.2022, 7 pm [UTC +1] • University of Innsbruck and as Live-Stream

Dear Miriam, dear friends,

Thank you so much for your kind words. The organizers, i.e. the IKGS and the 
University of Innsbruck have announced to put the documentary and the 
discussion online. This is all the more interesting as the documentary was 
shown with English subtitles.

Don't worry, I'll keep an eye on it and as soon as the video is available I'll 
inform you accordingly and make it available on our Ehpes Blog if possible.

Warmest wishes as always!

Edgar Hauster [MacBook]

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[czernowitz-l] RE: [czernowitz-l] Rubinstein-Schächter-Rennert connection

[Rennert Gad]

Hi

I will wait for Emil's response (who is my cousin) but can already say that 
none of these names rings a bell and I think I know well at least 4 or 5 
generations around our parents.

Gadi Rennert

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Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 7:29 PM
To: czernowit...@cornell.edu
Subject: [czernowitz-l] Rubinstein-Schächter-Rennert connection


Hello there,
while looking deeper into the family of Pepi Rubinstein, the wife of Pinus 
Rubinstein, I found out that her uncle was working as a „Postmeister“ in Vienna 
and his last name was Rennert, I am curious if there is any connection to the 
family of Erwin Rennert. Pepi’s maiden name was Schächter. Plus: On the birth 
certificate of Pepi‘s and Pinus‘ son the name Pere Faige Rennert shows up.
I ordered both the book „Die Jüdische Bukovina“ and the DVD „Eine verschwundene 
Welt“ from Bukovina Books in Tel Aviv.
I know that Emil and other members of the Rennert family are here on this list, 
so if you read this could you please respond?
Jens

Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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[czernowitz-l] [Cz-L] Nandor Gingold

[Rennert Gad]

Hi list members,

I am trying to find information about a remote family member who is remembered 
by the family as Lupo Gingold. I know that he was somehow involved in Romanian 
politics around WWII. 
Google search was not very helpful but I got to  the name Nandor Gingold 
(1905-1986) who was the head of the Central Jewish Office at the time of 
Antonescu and maybe in the Romanian Senate and later was jailed for many years.
I cannot find information about this Jewish leaders' point of birth and 
parents' name and therefore cannot tie together the information I have.
"my" Lupo is the son of Schulem Gingold from Bukovina (1880-1942), brother of 
Frida, father of Tulio and Surika and Anuza, the first two perished in the war. 
Schulem ended up being murdered in Odessa. 

Any insight?

Thanks

Gadi

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[mailto:bounce-125298720-73784...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Mandy Traineanu
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:46 AM
To: Czernowitz Genealogy and History 
Subject: Re:[czernowitz-l] [Cz-L] czernowitz-l digest: January 14, 2021

--69219305b8e5b4a1

Hello again Jonah,

I found out a little more:

Paula lived w her husband in Vienna and in 1937 -1938 she was still alive!
(from what my father Manfred Roll is telling me)

Paula was Moses' second eldest daughter.

The oldest was Bertha, then Paula, then Mathilda and my great grandmother 
Camilla was the youngest.

Hope this helps a little bit

Warm regards
Mandy
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RE:[czernowitz-l] Changes to the Czernowitz List

[Rennert Gad]

Many thanks to the three of you, Bruce, Jerome and Edgar for the vast 
investment and the long term commitment to this list. It is such an amazing 
resource and will become even more valuable as years pass.

Gadi

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Subject: [czernowitz-l] Changes to the Czernowitz List

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RE: [czernowitz-l] Applying for Romanian Citizenship - Legal Support

[Rennert Gad]

With the new law, now in effect in Austria regarding Jews after WWII, I applied 
through the Austrian embassy in Israel and received a response that they do not 
think I am eligible. This is not clear to me as my father was born in 
Austro-Hungary in 1918 before they became “Romania” and his and my mother’s 
birth registration is in written in German (the spoken language at home which 
now I understand is more Austrian German than German German). Needless to 
mention that both of my parents ended spending long periods in camps in 
Transnistria.

And BTW, they did not have a problem with me having former nationalities

Gadi

From: bounce-125333663-73784...@list.cornell.edu 
[mailto:bounce-125333663-73784...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Karin Perrin
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 2:28 PM
To: Alan Gavurin 
Cc: Arthur von Czernowitz ; czernowit...@cornell.edu; 
glasg...@bellsouth.net
Subject: RE: [czernowitz-l] Applying for Romanian Citizenship - Legal Support

Sounds very encouraging.
Have read the link and might be a possibility. I will get in touch. You have 
been most helpful, Alan.
Kind regards
Karin

From: Alan Gavurin mailto:gavu...@gmail.com>>
Sent: 26 January 2021 12:24
To: Karin Perrin mailto:ka...@karinp.co.uk>>
Cc: Arthur von Czernowitz 
mailto:vonczernow...@yahoo.com>>; 
czernowit...@cornell.edu; 
glasg...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: [czernowitz-l] Applying for Romanian Citizenship - Legal Support

Hi Karin

Happy to have helped to stimulate this point (along with Arthur, Bertie and 
others)

re the dual nationality point see below from the Austrian Embassy in London 
website - I think dual nationality is fine if you qualify using this route 
(which is another question)

Alan

Citizenship for descendants of victims of National Socialism – Österreichische 
Botschaft London 
(bmeia.gv.at)


According to the new § 58c para. 1a of the Austrian Citizenship Act descendants 
of victims of the National Socialist regime can acquire Austrian citizenship by 
means of a declaration (“Anzeige”), without having to give up their current 
citizenship or nationality in return.

Please note, however, that the law in some countries provides for the automatic 
loss of its citizenship or nationality if you acquire another citizenship. In 
case of doubt, please check with the competent authority of your home country.

On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 12:18, Karin Perrin 
mailto:ka...@karinp.co.uk>> wrote:
Hi Alan
A conundrum.
You are encouraging me to investigate the route of Austrian citizenship. The 
Romanian route is stagnating. Various excuses…
I never thought that joining the Czernowitz group would lead to such 
interesting conversations… 😊

Karin

From: Alan Gavurin mailto:gavu...@gmail.com>>
Sent: 26 January 2021 11:36
To: Karin Perrin mailto:ka...@karinp.co.uk>>
Cc: Arthur von Czernowitz 
mailto:vonczernow...@yahoo.com>>; 
czernowit...@cornell.edu; 
glasg...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: [czernowitz-l] Applying for Romanian Citizenship - Legal Support

Thank you Karin & Arthur for raising the Austrian Citizenship question

Firstly, Karin it seems that you must have a chance to apply again to Austria 
having already once held citizenship.  I think there is a significant element 
of restitution and nations trying to confront errors of the past in some of 
these recent changes to citizenship rules - also see Portugal and, to a lesser 
extent, Spain.

The issue of dual nationality is clearly important, especially to those of us 
in the UK who are looking to re-create our links to Europe after the terrible 
disaster of Brexit. I believe Romania does, Poland is not keen but may do so 
and Germany has now changed its rules to not allow it with non EU countries 
(like the UK post 2020) although if you are applying for German citizenship 
because it was lost as a result of Nazi oppression then you CAN apparently hold 
dual citizenship.

I have struggled with understanding the Austrian offer. I will try and look 
into it in more detail but it could be interesting. Does it matter that, after 
leaving Kolomya & Vijnita, my grandparents went to Germany and never lived in 
what is modern-day Austria?

My grandparents on my mother's side came from Kolomyja and Vijnita (Wiznitz) - 
the two towns are 50km apart but when they were born in 1908/1911 one was in 
the Austro-Hungarian province of Galicia and one was in th