Re: broken pages on db.test-smoke.org

2006-12-01 Thread Abe Timmerman
Op een mooie herfstdag (Friday 01 December 2006 08:40),schreef  Gabor Szabo:
 Hi Abe,

Hi Gabor,

 On 12/1/06, Abe Timmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Op een mooie herfstdag (Thursday 30 November 2006 18:46),schreef  Gabor 
Szabo:
   Hi,
 
  Hi Gabor,

[snip]

 I cross post it back to p5p I think we should drop the daily-build list
 from this discussion. Actually maybe it should be dropped from the
 perlhack.pod as well.  http://www.test-smoke.org/ should be mentioned in
 that pod.

Well, the daily-build list could be merged with perl-qa; but I can imagine 
most porters do not want all of this detail discussed on p5p.

I'm not the judge of that.

[more snip]

 Thanks for the other data collectors you provide.

 A few comments and questions:

 http://www.test-smoke.org/perlcover/ seem to show an old and actually
 failed build. (gcov run for 29204 while the latest seem to be 29427) Well,
 that if I understand what I see there. Is this on purpose? Could it be
 updated?

It's running (@29431), but apeared to be hanging, I'll monitor more closely, 
and update asap.

 BTW is the test coverage of perl really only 71.7% ?


 The HTML and CSS seem to be, well, not the niceset
 (but who am I to talk about such issues :-)

There's no accounting for taste ;-)

 and it is jumping (e.g. on http://www.test-smoke.org/ when the mouse is
 over 'my perl stuff' using Firefox. (and it is not valid XHTML any more)

Hmmm..., I can only see a problem with the smoquel page..

 (C)opyright on the top is out of date.

fixed, thanks!

 Smokefarm: Nice pictures. I wonder are all these machines in one place?
 Who owns them, who maintains them.

Those pictures are all of my own machines, and most of them run perl-smokes.

 I though many of the smoke reports come
 in from volunteers on this list (and maybe outside of it) who run perl
 smoke testing
 on their own machine. A description of the situation would be nice.

Most of the smoke reports come from other -very nice- people, that donate 
there cycles to perl smoke testing.

 Also how do you collect the status information
 http://www.test-smoke.org/status.shtml about the smoke servers ?

It's a little script that goes out to the smoke-host and calls the 
smokestatus.pl script and collects the output.

http://www.test-smoke.org/svn/SmokeStatus/

  Please let me know what you want to show, and I'll try to help you, but I
  hope the above links help you.

 I am preparing a presentation to a bunch of QA managers.
 I would like to show them several large open source projects and what
 and how do they do to improve quality. There are a number of nice
 systems out there with
 automatic builds and test runners with systems collecting the test results.

 I would like to show them the 'business value' in these systems and
 how do they work. That is the quick feedback cycle. The easy way to
 pinpoint locations of issues.
 (e.g. how do I find out at which point did the build break on a
 certain platform ?)

 BTW it might be useful to show the latest patch level.
 I am not sure about others I would like to see a table of platforms with
 one line for the latest test report on that platform with red/green colors
 on success failure.

That is what http://gromit.test-smoke.org/cgi/tsdb?mode=listlast does, doesn't 
it?

 I started to work on something similar for the CPAN Testers:
 http://www.szabgab.com/cpantested/
 http://www.szabgab.com/cpantested/dist/Test-Smoke.html
 I hope we can fold it in the main cpantesters.perl.org site.

 Something like this (just nicer :-) would - I guess - be useful for P5P
 too.

 Look at what PostgreSQL have:
 http://www.pgbuildfarm.org/cgi-bin/show_status.pl

 or the Tinderbox of Mozilla:
 http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=Firefox

 actually both written in Perl.

 regards
 Gabor
 ps. Just to make it clear, I am not trying to push anyone to do any of
 these things,
 (nor can I currently volunteer to do it myself) I am just sharing my
 thoughts.

Good luck,

Abe
-- 
Anton Tagunov P.S. People do like gory details :)

I don't like telling them.
   -- Jarkko Hietaniemi on p5p @ 2002-03-06


Re: broken pages on db.test-smoke.org

2006-12-01 Thread Gabor Szabo

On 12/1/06, Abe Timmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW it might be useful to show the latest patch level.
 I am not sure about others I would like to see a table of platforms with
 one line for the latest test report on that platform with red/green colors
 on success failure.

That is what http://gromit.test-smoke.org/cgi/tsdb?mode=listlast does, doesn't
it?


Yes, that's it.
In addition, next to the FAILED lines it would be nice to have another
column with
the change number (and a link) of the last successful report.

Gabor


Re: broken pages on db.test-smoke.org

2006-11-30 Thread Abe Timmerman
Op een mooie herfstdag (Thursday 30 November 2006 18:46),schreef  Gabor Szabo:
 Hi,

Hi Gabor,

 While going through http://db.test-smoke.org I bumped into a couple
 of broken pages:

I installed that some time ago with the software Alain Barbet provided. I've 
never updated his software, as it was too geared for his situation, and it 
took too much efford to keep his stuff up to date.

This is why I started TinySmokeDB and PerlCover on test-smoke.org:

http://gromit.test-smoke.org/cgi/tsdb

http://gromit.test-smoke.org/cgi/tsdb?mode=listlast

http://www.test-smoke.org/perlcover/

[snip]

 Just in case someone cares to fix them I am about to show this to a few
 QA managers on Sunday in hope they will implement something similar
 in their organization.

I *do* care, as I see perl-smoke-testing and reporting on it as my 
contribution to the perl-comunity.

Please let me know what you want to show, and I'll try to help you, but I hope 
the above links help you.

Good luck,

Abe
-- 
Nick  Over to you, Jarkko ???
Jarkko Urque.
Hmm...  I can't seem to find a patch in there anywhere.
  -- Nicholas Clark on p5p @ 2005-01-23