Re: [darktable-devel] Feature Request

2013-04-23 Thread Artur de Sousa Rocha 
Hi Alex,

Please see the FAQs 2, 3, and 4 here: http://www.darktable.org/faq/

Even as a user I have to agree with the developers' priorities. I can
live with having to put a bit more forethought about where I put my
files (which is a good habit in general).

Regards,
Atrur

2013/4/23 Alex Reiterer :
> Dear Darktable Users and Developers,
> I am using Darktabe for a while and I find it very impressive. However there 
> is an important feature which is provided by all other
> relevant RAW-converter (e.g. Lightroom, after Shot pro, Aperture, etc.). This 
> feature is "Image Management".
> The only possibility to manage the images in Darktable is to import them and 
> to have "Film Rolls". For my point of view
> we need a more sophisticated managing tool. In a first step this could be a 
> simple reproduction of the directory structure where the images are stored.
> In a second step this structure could be extended by groups. Please have a 
> look at After Shot Pro or Lightroom - they provide such functions.
>
> Is there any initiative for developing such a functionality?
>
> Best regards,
> Alex
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Re: [darktable-devel] Feature Request

2013-04-23 Thread David Vincent-Jones 
I complained for the longest time over the file management system but 
have to say that now that I understand the system better the current 
offering is totally without equal. A superb job.

The directory structure is there if one needs it and so is every other 
imaginable structure. Certainly it has changed the way that I bring 
images to the screen and made me more cognoscente of cataloguing 
procedures but it is slick and very efficient.

If there is are problems with the system it may lie in the lack of 
comprehensive documentation and users discomfort in changing old work 
habits. I have very cheerfully moved away from using the DEM of Digikam 
with its typical directory structure approach.

David


On 13-04-23 08:01 AM, Alex Reiterer wrote:
> Dear Darktable Users and Developers,
> I am using Darktabe for a while and I find it very impressive. However there 
> is an important feature which is provided by all other
> relevant RAW-converter (e.g. Lightroom, after Shot pro, Aperture, etc.). This 
> feature is "Image Management".
> The only possibility to manage the images in Darktable is to import them and 
> to have "Film Rolls". For my point of view
> we need a more sophisticated managing tool. In a first step this could be a 
> simple reproduction of the directory structure where the images are stored.
> In a second step this structure could be extended by groups. Please have a 
> look at After Shot Pro or Lightroom - they provide such functions.
>
> Is there any initiative for developing such a functionality?
>
> Best regards,
> Alex
>
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Re: [darktable-devel] Feature Request

2013-04-23 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo 
Which image management system does LIghtroom provide? Because they use the
same concept than us: a db containig all images. If your mean that they
show a list of folders, we do also: just select "folders" on the combobox
in collect images. But what they don't do (and we won't) is to allow yo to
browse across your HD and see images that have not been previously imported.


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Alex Reiterer wrote:

> Dear Darktable Users and Developers,
> I am using Darktabe for a while and I find it very impressive. However
> there is an important feature which is provided by all other
> relevant RAW-converter (e.g. Lightroom, after Shot pro, Aperture, etc.).
> This feature is "Image Management".
> The only possibility to manage the images in Darktable is to import them
> and to have "Film Rolls". For my point of view
> we need a more sophisticated managing tool. In a first step this could be
> a simple reproduction of the directory structure where the images are
> stored.
> In a second step this structure could be extended by groups. Please have a
> look at After Shot Pro or Lightroom - they provide such functions.
>
> Is there any initiative for developing such a functionality?
>
> Best regards,
> Alex
>
>
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Re: [darktable-devel] Feature Request

2013-04-23 Thread Binoyte 
DT more needs a better db management than a file management :
 - DT needs a better UI for tagging / managing keyword
 - DT needs a way to fill IPTC location fields (Country, City etc...)
 - DT needs a better db explorer (as already proposed on DT's wiki :
http://darktable.org/redmine/projects/darktable/wiki/MetadataBrowserGui)

I understand developers "have image editing code to write" but since DT can
manage masks, the 3 points above are the last big ones why I still use
AfterShot Pro. The darkroom of DT is enough for my needs.

++

2013/4/23 Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo 

> Which image management system does LIghtroom provide? Because they use the
> same concept than us: a db containig all images. If your mean that they
> show a list of folders, we do also: just select "folders" on the combobox
> in collect images. But what they don't do (and we won't) is to allow yo to
> browse across your HD and see images that have not been previously imported.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Alex Reiterer wrote:
>
>> Dear Darktable Users and Developers,
>> I am using Darktabe for a while and I find it very impressive. However
>> there is an important feature which is provided by all other
>> relevant RAW-converter (e.g. Lightroom, after Shot pro, Aperture, etc.).
>> This feature is "Image Management".
>> The only possibility to manage the images in Darktable is to import them
>> and to have "Film Rolls". For my point of view
>> we need a more sophisticated managing tool. In a first step this could be
>> a simple reproduction of the directory structure where the images are
>> stored.
>> In a second step this structure could be extended by groups. Please have
>> a look at After Shot Pro or Lightroom - they provide such functions.
>>
>> Is there any initiative for developing such a functionality?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [darktable-devel] Feature Request

2013-04-23 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo 
Yes, the two first points really need a look, as well as the third one. I
am splitting those because the first two ones are clearly needed, while the
third one will need more discussion the be seamlessly integrated with the
collect images module. ​

What is what you really miss from the tagging module?
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[darktable-devel] Fwd: Darktable Noise Presets

2013-04-23 Thread Steve Boyer 
Hello Everyone!

I was wanting to create/test/submit a noise profile for my camera - the
Canon Rebel T3 (EOS 1100D). I read through the "howto" and couldn't find
the scripts - then read through the comments and learned I needed the GIT
version of DT. I asked in the IRC channel and was told to just e-mail 'em.
I'm sending at least 1 of each ISO that my camera does, with a few extras.
Hopefully, these have a large enough histogram in order to create
an adequate profile. Because the total size of the files is 142MB, I am
just sending a link to the files that are hosted in my dropbox.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/eedffggdi2pgdnk/UZVQH5jGNB

Thank you all very much for the work that goes into this program!

Please let me know if I can help out further!

Sincerely,
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Re: [darktable-devel] Fwd: Disappearing Top Bar

2013-04-23 Thread Christian Tellefsen 
Steve Boyer  wrote:

>Probably not the best place to put this, but I didn't know where else
>to
>mention it. I have been using Darktable for a while now. I upgraded to
>the
>unstable PPA release recently to try out the masks. I noticed a problem
>though: my top bar in the light table has disappeared. I removed it
>(via
>the PPA repositories and apt-get remove darktable), removed the
>unstable
>PPA from my sources, added the stable with extras PPA, apt-get
>installed
>darktable, and still is not there. The sorting bar is still there in
>the
>darkroom, and GPS views, but not light table. Here's some screen shots
>to
>illustrate. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I'd
>appreciate
>it!!
>
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Try clicking on the white triangle at the top center of the darktable window 
while in lighttable.


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[darktable-devel] UI Design?

2013-04-23 Thread Steven Adler 
Is there a human interface team working on a vision for DT interface
design?  It feels like the interface evolves adhoc and a common strategy
and framework would really help.
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Re: [darktable-devel] UI Design?

2013-04-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine 
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Steven Adler wrote:
> Is there a human interface team working on a vision for DT interface design?

No

> It feels like the interface evolves adhoc and a common strategy and
> framework would really help.

Yes. Your suggestions? ;)

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Re: [darktable-devel] UI Design?

2013-04-23 Thread Steven Adler 
Crowdsource it.  Invite users to suggest improvements.  Collect them into
an architecture.  Share with developers.  Share back with users who
contributed for validation.  Implement in stages.


On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine <
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:37 PM, Steven Adler wrote:
> > Is there a human interface team working on a vision for DT interface
> design?
>
> No
>
> > It feels like the interface evolves adhoc and a common strategy and
> > framework would really help.
>
> Yes. Your suggestions? ;)
>
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Re: [darktable-devel] UI Design?

2013-04-23 Thread Max Killer 

On 04/23/2013 08:37 PM, Steven Adler wrote:
Is there a human interface team working on a vision for DT interface 
design?  It feels like the interface evolves adhoc and a common 
strategy and framework would really help.



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Suggestions are always welcome. You are free to come to irc and discuss 
any concepts you have, which would have the advantage that you would 
know which features are planned. This would reduce the "adhoc" evolvement.


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[darktable-devel] Collect Images

2013-04-23 Thread David Vincent-Jones 
Would it be possible to indicate on the bottom line (alongside the star 
ratings for instance) the number of images that has been selected? I 
think this would be a very useful addition.

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Re: [darktable-devel] Collect Images

2013-04-23 Thread Simon Spannagel 
Should be in the top panel:
"6 images of 1333 in current collection are selected"



Am 23.04.2013 21:48, schrieb David Vincent-Jones:
> Would it be possible to indicate on the bottom line (alongside the star 
> ratings for instance) the number of images that has been selected? I 
> think this would be a very useful addition.
> 
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Re: [darktable-devel] update nl.po

2013-04-23 Thread Simon Spannagel 
Pushed, thanks Ger!

/Simon

Am 23.04.2013 20:33, schrieb Ger Siemerink:
> Simon,
> 
> Will you push again, see attachment? Thanks in advance!
> 
> with special attention to masks and color mapping
> 
> regards Ger
> 
> Inline afbeelding 1
> 
> 
> 2013/3/26 Simon mailto:simon...@kth.se>>
> 
> Hi Ger,
> 
> pushed the update. Thanks!
> 
> /Simon
> 
> On 03/26/2013 09:28 AM, Ger Siemerink wrote:
> > Simon, will you push the patch again?
> >
> > some fuzzy translations, after string freeze, have been translated
> >
> > thanks in advance again
> >
> 
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Re: [darktable-devel] UI Design?

2013-04-23 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus 
Am Dienstag, 23. April 2013, 20:37:06 schrub Steven Adler:
> Is there a human interface team working on a vision for DT interface
> design?  It feels like the interface evolves adhoc and a common strategy
> and framework would really help.

No, there is no dedicated team, but the core developers have a relatively 
clear idea about what the user interface should look and feel like. Any 
concrete problems or ideas can be shared either in IRC or here. Make sure to 
read the relevant wiki pages first though, maybe the issues are already 
identified and nobody felt the need to fix them yet.

Tobias


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Re: [darktable-devel] Collect Images

2013-04-23 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus 
Am Dienstag, 23. April 2013, 21:54:58 schrub Simon Spannagel:
> Should be in the top panel:
> "6 images of 1333 in current collection are selected"

The only problem I have with that message is that I have to show the header 
(ctrl-h) in order to see it.

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[darktable-devel] Profiled denoise presets for Canon EOS 1100D

2013-04-23 Thread Novák Levente 
Hi,

Please find attached the profiled denoise presets for the Canon EOS
1100D. The profiles were checked and found to work well on real images
but I did not calculate the psnr values yet. If you need the plots as
well, please tell me where exactly I have to upload them.

Greetings,

Levente

{"Canon EOS 1100D iso 100",   "Canon",  "Canon EOS 1100D",  
100, {6.18589472171319e-06, 2.66429865728526e-06, 
4.09058109030574e-06}, {-3.78123404507743e-08, -5.23556786817321e-08, 
-1.50271401265386e-08}},
{"Canon EOS 1100D iso 200",   "Canon",  "Canon EOS 1100D",  
200, {1.04215498490955e-05, 4.3334160734584e-06, 7.07965226648673e-06}, 
{7.26737074799896e-09, 1.2646251114546e-08, 2.19779267553642e-08}},
{"Canon EOS 1100D iso 400",   "Canon",  "Canon EOS 1100D",  
400, {1.94661204458126e-05, 8.07658820643526e-06, 1.3379400744701e-05}, 
{8.34003276431836e-08, 8.80976634839685e-08, 8.07686813739757e-08}},
{"Canon EOS 1100D iso 800",   "Canon",  "Canon EOS 1100D",  
800, {3.73547174279682e-05, 1.57416767786194e-05, 
2.55920866097905e-05}, {2.1392237462742e-07, 1.63459263655984e-07, 
2.72007036293641e-07}},
{"Canon EOS 1100D iso 1600",   "Canon",  "Canon EOS 1100D", 
 1600, {7.19436235982651e-05, 2.9630641031117e-05, 
5.01943980797386e-05}, {7.16114879731369e-07, 7.44198832366465e-07, 
6.34976586025192e-07}},
{"Canon EOS 1100D iso 3200",   "Canon",  "Canon EOS 1100D", 
 3200, {0.000146256218105018, 6.0053651777805e-05, 
9.89786155946811e-05}, {1.30341930331394e-06, 1.37112765817257e-06, 
1.71313582318351e-06}},
{"Canon EOS 1100D iso 6400",   "Canon",  "Canon EOS 1100D", 
 6400, {0.000304902209423889, 0.000127824045974259, 
0.000205600497846824}, {2.09948526590663e-06, 1.73581748166543e-06, 
3.17196719392282e-06}},
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