Re: [darktable-user] Unable to read camera white balance
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 20:41:46 -0400 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > I have same result as you, fails to open. I am using dt d903fee47 > from darix's build for opensuse tw. files opens ok in rawtherapee. > suggest trying dev's on irc, #darktable on freenode. > > in the meantime, try comparing the exif data to a photo which opens > successfully in dt. > > I have tried opening the file in DT 2.4.4 (Debian) [rawspeed] (DSC_5978.NEF) void rawspeed::HuffmanTable::setCodeValues(const rawspeed::Buffer&), line 176: Corrupt Huffman. Code value 92 is bigger than 16 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `DSC_5978.NEF'! From OS: $ file /tmp/DSC_5978.NEF /tmp/DSC_5978.NEF: TIFF image data, little-endian, direntries=28, height=120, bps=352, compression=none, PhotometricIntepretation=RGB, manufacturer=NIKON CORPORATION, model=NIKON D750, orientation=upper-left, width=160 One of my raw files: $ file Pictures/2018-06-20/DSC_1685.NEF Pictures/2018-06-20/DSC_1685.NEF: TIFF image data, big-endian, direntries=28, height=0, bps=0, compression=none, PhotometricIntepretation=RGB, manufacturer=NIKON CORPORATION, model=NIKON D600, orientation=upper-left, width=0 See the difference: DSC_5978.NEF: little-endian vs DSC_1685.NEF: big-endian Seems for some reason DT fails if raw file is having little-endianess. -- Hilsen/Regards Michael Rasmussen Get my public GnuPG keys: michael rasmussen cc http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get=0xD3C9A00E mir datanom net http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get=0xE501F51C mir miras org http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get=0xE3E80917 -- /usr/games/fortune -es says: *** NEWSFLASH *** Russian tanks steamrolling through New Jersey Details at eleven! pgp2dTOEA1s8X.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [darktable-user] Unable to read camera white balance
* Sakke K [10-24-18 18:18]: > errant photo > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cz9uV6EX9dvi-Oy2VUbQayMzqlgKg4bo > > > ke 24. lokak. 2018 klo 22.06 Patrick Shanahan (p...@opensuse.org) kirjoitti: > > > * Sakke K [10-24-18 13:33]: > > > I have same error one pic. > > > > > > [rawspeed] (DSC_5978.NEF) void > > rawspeed::HuffmanTable::setCodeValues(const > > > rawspeed::Buffer&), line 176: Corrupt Huffman. Code value 92 is bigger > > than > > > 16 > > > [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from > > > `DSC_5978.NEF'! > > > [temperature] `NIKON CORPORATION NIKON D750' color matrix not found for > > > image > > > [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from > > > `DSC_5978.NEF'! > > > > > > I can't edit pic. I can open it with gThumb and it look normal - no > > errors > > > > > > ma 22. lokak. 2018 klo 18.16 Patrick Shanahan (p...@opensuse.org) > > kirjoitti: > > > > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-22-18 10:32]: > > > > > After importing a set of raw images... One image in the set failed to > > > > open > > > > > and shows that error message. Shows skull. > > > > > dt from git recent .. Opensuse TW. Camera Fujifjlm X. Pro2 > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 14:48 Patrick Shanahan > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-22-18 05:19]: > > > > > > > I am getting the above error message on a single image in a set. > > Is > > > > there > > > > > > > any way to recover the raw file... I have tried to copy settings > > from > > > > > > > another file without success.. > > > > > > > > > > > > is the set not raw images? or do I not understand "recover the raw > > > > file"? > > > > > > > > > > > > camera, ver dt and operating system? > > > > > > > > > > > > how did you get to the "Unable to read" position? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > > > > @ptilopteri > > > > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member > > > > facebook/ptilopteri > > > > > > Registered Linux User #207535@ > > > > http://linuxcounter.net > > > > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > > > > freenode > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > so you removed the skull and tried again to import the subject image > > > > running dt from the commandline as "darktable -d a;; > dt.txt" and > > > > examined dt.txt for possible problems? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > > @ptilopteri > > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member > > facebook/ptilopteri > > > > Registered Linux User #207535@ > > http://linuxcounter.net > > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > > freenode > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > can one or both of you provide the errant photo(s) to a download site? > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org I have same result as you, fails to open. I am using dt d903fee47 from darix's build for opensuse tw. files opens ok in rawtherapee. suggest trying dev's on irc, #darktable on freenode. in the meantime, try comparing the exif data to a photo which opens successfully in dt. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri
Re: [darktable-user] Thanks for the manual. Thanks for the videos, but...
> What I would like to see is the DT manual to have some sort of > capability to be edited by users. Like a page feedback or wiki based > with approval process. This way users can collaborate and contribute to > the manual. This is a cool idea and I would contribute to it. Although, I think there is a difference between a user's guide and a manual, as the former might be more geared towards creative uses of the modules beyond their basic technical description. Perhaps a new "user's guide" wiki could be created in this regard? darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Thanks for the manual. Thanks for the videos, but...
Don't get me wrong: I *sincerely appreciate* the effort put into producing tutorial videos. And I *admire* the required enthusiasm and discipline. Video makers are heroes! Completely agree. However, I think that the required effort stands in no justifiable relation to the benefit. And I'm sorry to say that. Here's why: Software evolves. And while it's already difficult to keep text based documentation in sync with changes in software, this is exceptionally difficult for videos. In the best case it's only menus moving to other places, in the worst case a concept is modelled completely different in a new software version. Very valid point Text can be searched. And thus can be found by your favourite search engine. There is no full text seach for videos (and I don't know about a usable search function for audio), so unless the video is heavily annotated with metadata and a transcript (more work!) it will be quite painful to find the section in the lengthy video that covers what you're looking for. Or to find the one among a collection of many short tutorials that you're looking for. Indeed - text is better for search and absorb easy. The drawback is that some times what is explained in a text is difficult to be understood. Also, you can easily skim through text. I find it hard to do so in video, jumping in steps of, say, 5s, is already pretty fine granularity for a longer video, but still likely to just miss the short information you're looking for. And it's tedious. This is true but it is more applicable to a lengthy videos - if a video is 30s to 1m it is a good reference point Good videos need a script, a good speaker, and a clear concept. They need to be concise and to the point. Missing one of these (or any other issue, like a cough or deviation from the topic, missed-out paragraph from the script, break in the storyline, bad audio quality, or a mumbling speaker) cannot be edited easily afterwards. You need to know exactly what you're doing, before recording. Is there a way to produce a video in a collaborative effort? I don't know, but I have collaborated in writing texts, different people adding their ideas and refining the text, improving it further and further. I assume that you're pretty much alone when producing a video (and I bow to those who do). Maybe there are places where a video is just the right media to present an idea (e.g., to show how tie one's shoes), and maybe a textual tutorial about DT (which will, of course, contain images) could even benefit from a video here or there. But in general I'm convinced that videos are not the right thing to teach software. So, I'm happy that the DT team provides a manual, instead of putting time into producing videos. Again, I bow to those making videos, but I'd rather see that time and effort being spent on improving the manaual. It could need a hand here or there. What I would like to see is the DT manual to have some sort of capability to be edited by users. Like a page feedback or wiki based with approval process. This way users can collaborate and contribute to the manual. They may not know the complete program but they may be very good in a particular area or module. Incorporating very short videos would be good like 30s - 1 min or so - just to demo some very specific areas. Besides - the videos don't need to auto play. Just a link to it is good. Drawback of the you tube videos - they are scattered between many people so each time we search for them. While they are good as a reference they are not organized much. On the other hand - the manual is organized and search-able (but has no links to videos) Also - as good as youtube videos are - some are quite long - 15 min and above. They are good as a tutorial - comprehensive one but not as a reference. The manual does not need to be static. It can constantly evolve Regards, B darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Unable to read camera white balance
errant photo https://drive.google.com/open?id=1cz9uV6EX9dvi-Oy2VUbQayMzqlgKg4bo ke 24. lokak. 2018 klo 22.06 Patrick Shanahan (p...@opensuse.org) kirjoitti: > * Sakke K [10-24-18 13:33]: > > I have same error one pic. > > > > [rawspeed] (DSC_5978.NEF) void > rawspeed::HuffmanTable::setCodeValues(const > > rawspeed::Buffer&), line 176: Corrupt Huffman. Code value 92 is bigger > than > > 16 > > [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from > > `DSC_5978.NEF'! > > [temperature] `NIKON CORPORATION NIKON D750' color matrix not found for > > image > > [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from > > `DSC_5978.NEF'! > > > > I can't edit pic. I can open it with gThumb and it look normal - no > errors > > > > ma 22. lokak. 2018 klo 18.16 Patrick Shanahan (p...@opensuse.org) > kirjoitti: > > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-22-18 10:32]: > > > > After importing a set of raw images... One image in the set failed to > > > open > > > > and shows that error message. Shows skull. > > > > dt from git recent .. Opensuse TW. Camera Fujifjlm X. Pro2 > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 14:48 Patrick Shanahan > wrote: > > > > > > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-22-18 05:19]: > > > > > > I am getting the above error message on a single image in a set. > Is > > > there > > > > > > any way to recover the raw file... I have tried to copy settings > from > > > > > > another file without success.. > > > > > > > > > > is the set not raw images? or do I not understand "recover the raw > > > file"? > > > > > > > > > > camera, ver dt and operating system? > > > > > > > > > > how did you get to the "Unable to read" position? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > > > @ptilopteri > > > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member > > > facebook/ptilopteri > > > > > Registered Linux User #207535@ > > > http://linuxcounter.net > > > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > > > freenode > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > so you removed the skull and tried again to import the subject image > > > running dt from the commandline as "darktable -d a;; > dt.txt" and > > > examined dt.txt for possible problems? > > > > > > -- > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > @ptilopteri > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member > facebook/ptilopteri > > > Registered Linux User #207535@ > http://linuxcounter.net > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > freenode > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > can one or both of you provide the errant photo(s) to a download site? > > -- > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Unable to read camera white balance
* Sakke K [10-24-18 13:33]: > I have same error one pic. > > [rawspeed] (DSC_5978.NEF) void rawspeed::HuffmanTable::setCodeValues(const > rawspeed::Buffer&), line 176: Corrupt Huffman. Code value 92 is bigger than > 16 > [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from > `DSC_5978.NEF'! > [temperature] `NIKON CORPORATION NIKON D750' color matrix not found for > image > [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from > `DSC_5978.NEF'! > > I can't edit pic. I can open it with gThumb and it look normal - no errors > > ma 22. lokak. 2018 klo 18.16 Patrick Shanahan (p...@opensuse.org) kirjoitti: > > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-22-18 10:32]: > > > After importing a set of raw images... One image in the set failed to > > open > > > and shows that error message. Shows skull. > > > dt from git recent .. Opensuse TW. Camera Fujifjlm X. Pro2 > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 14:48 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-22-18 05:19]: > > > > > I am getting the above error message on a single image in a set. Is > > there > > > > > any way to recover the raw file... I have tried to copy settings from > > > > > another file without success.. > > > > > > > > is the set not raw images? or do I not understand "recover the raw > > file"? > > > > > > > > camera, ver dt and operating system? > > > > > > > > how did you get to the "Unable to read" position? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > > @ptilopteri > > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member > > facebook/ptilopteri > > > > Registered Linux User #207535@ > > http://linuxcounter.net > > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > > freenode > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > so you removed the skull and tried again to import the subject image > > running dt from the commandline as "darktable -d a;; > dt.txt" and > > examined dt.txt for possible problems? > > > > -- > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > > Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org can one or both of you provide the errant photo(s) to a download site? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Unable to read camera white balance
I have same error one pic. [rawspeed] (DSC_5978.NEF) void rawspeed::HuffmanTable::setCodeValues(const rawspeed::Buffer&), line 176: Corrupt Huffman. Code value 92 is bigger than 16 [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `DSC_5978.NEF'! [temperature] `NIKON CORPORATION NIKON D750' color matrix not found for image [temperature] failed to read camera white balance information from `DSC_5978.NEF'! I can't edit pic. I can open it with gThumb and it look normal - no errors ma 22. lokak. 2018 klo 18.16 Patrick Shanahan (p...@opensuse.org) kirjoitti: > * David Vincent-Jones [10-22-18 10:32]: > > After importing a set of raw images... One image in the set failed to > open > > and shows that error message. Shows skull. > > dt from git recent .. Opensuse TW. Camera Fujifjlm X. Pro2 > > > > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018, 14:48 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > * David Vincent-Jones [10-22-18 05:19]: > > > > I am getting the above error message on a single image in a set. Is > there > > > > any way to recover the raw file... I have tried to copy settings from > > > > another file without success.. > > > > > > is the set not raw images? or do I not understand "recover the raw > file"? > > > > > > camera, ver dt and operating system? > > > > > > how did you get to the "Unable to read" position? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA > @ptilopteri > > > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member > facebook/ptilopteri > > > Registered Linux User #207535@ > http://linuxcounter.net > > > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet > freenode > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > > > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > > so you removed the skull and tried again to import the subject image > running dt from the commandline as "darktable -d a;; > dt.txt" and > examined dt.txt for possible problems? > > -- > (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri > Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net > Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Thanks for the manual. Thanks for the videos, but...
On 18-10-23 19:25:59, dt-l...@stefan-klinger.de wrote: tl;dr: Videos are hard to make, antiquate fast, and are hard to search. I agree with this. Videos are an easy way in, but having the patience to read a manual pays off big time in the long run. In the age of thousands of tutorial videos, RTFM has never been more relevant. I do like Bruce's videos though! I generally use them as a way in to get ideas with what to do with images. I find there are three steps: - Knowing where stuff is - Knowing what it does - Knowing when to use it The last one requires a bit more than just a manual for me. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [darktable-user] Thanks for the manual. Thanks for the videos, but...
I agree with the technical limitations of videos you mentioned, however I am not looking to find technical info in those either. I am expecting to see how others use the same tool I do, to achieve a goal - so more a creative input in what can be done than an explanation what the module/button/shortcut does. Some might use the shadows and highlights module others the exposure fusion to get the dynamic range they want in their image. I've even seen someone use whitebalance to achieve a "bladerunner" style look in his images, never crossed my mind to do that. And then of course workflow, how do others go about from import all the way upload/print, that is hard to describe in a text but easy to follow in a screencast. To me the creative usage is not something that quickly is out of sync with the current version of the software. In fact I watch videos of people using other raw processing tools to get ideas for applying them in darktable. I appreciate that both exist, the fine manual and the videos br mike Am Di., 23. Okt. 2018 um 19:37 Uhr schrieb : > tl;dr: Videos are hard to make, antiquate fast, and are hard to search. > > Having done teaching, I've had lengthy discussions about tutorial > videos, lecture recordings, interactive apps and stuff like that. > Here's my personal view: > > Don't get me wrong: I *sincerely appreciate* the effort put into > producing tutorial videos. And I *admire* the required enthusiasm and > discipline. > > Video makers are heroes! > > However, I think that the required effort stands in no justifiable > relation to the benefit. And I'm sorry to say that. Here's why: > > Software evolves. And while it's already difficult to keep text based > documentation in sync with changes in software, this is exceptionally > difficult for videos. In the best case it's only menus moving to > other places, in the worst case a concept is modelled completely > different in a new software version. > > Text can be searched. And thus can be found by your favourite search > engine. There is no full text seach for videos (and I don't know > about a usable search function for audio), so unless the video is > heavily annotated with metadata and a transcript (more work!) it will > be quite painful to find the section in the lengthy video that covers > what you're looking for. Or to find the one among a collection of > many short tutorials that you're looking for. > > Also, you can easily skim through text. I find it hard to do so in > video, jumping in steps of, say, 5s, is already pretty fine > granularity for a longer video, but still likely to just miss the > short information you're looking for. And it's tedious. > > Good videos need a script, a good speaker, and a clear concept. They > need to be concise and to the point. Missing one of these (or any > other issue, like a cough or deviation from the topic, missed-out > paragraph from the script, break in the storyline, bad audio quality, > or a mumbling speaker) cannot be edited easily afterwards. You need > to know exactly what you're doing, before recording. > > Is there a way to produce a video in a collaborative effort? I don't > know, but I have collaborated in writing texts, different people > adding their ideas and refining the text, improving it further and > further. I assume that you're pretty much alone when producing a > video (and I bow to those who do). > > Maybe there are places where a video is just the right media to > present an idea (e.g., to show how tie one's shoes), and maybe a > textual tutorial about DT (which will, of course, contain images) > could even benefit from a video here or there. But in general I'm > convinced that videos are not the right thing to teach software. > > So, I'm happy that the DT team provides a manual, instead of putting > time into producing videos. Again, I bow to those making videos, but > I'd rather see that time and effort being spent on improving the > manaual. It could need a hand here or there. > > > -- > http://stefan-klinger.deo/X > I prefer receiving plain text messages, not exceeding 32kB. /\/ > \ > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
