Re: [darktable-user] Trouble with Retouch module

[Andrew Greig]

  
  
Hi Florian, 

Wheel Eel Beef Hooked! 

I was really in difficulty the other evening, but everything I
  need is working brilliantly well, now. I have no explanation.
The ppa I used was found here:
How to Install Darktable 3.0 in Ubuntu:
The darktable release
  PPA seems no longer being updated. I’ve uploaded the 3.0 packages
  into the unofficial
PPA for 64-bit Ubuntu 18.04, Ubuntu 19.04,
  Ubuntu 19.10.
Cheers
Andrew Greig

On 10/1/20 8:34 am, Florian W wrote:


  
  I'm quite surprised it doesn't work for you, these
commands haven't changed for the new version.


I'm using 3.0 and I can change the size by using
  my mouse wheel.


Which system are you using ?
You mentioned installing from a PPA but to my
  knowledge the official PPA for DT is not updated since
  ages... 
What is the PPA you installed from?



  Le jeu. 9 janv. 2020 22:25,
andrew  a
écrit :
  
  

  Hi Florian,
  Thanks for your reply. In 2.6 I have used
CTRL+ drag to rotate an ellipse, SHIFT + wheel to adjust
the feather and the wheel to resize, but these are not
working in DT 3.0. What other info can I supply to
assist in achieving a solution, please?
  Thanks Andrew
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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 Original message 
From: Florian W 

Date: 10/1/20 1:27 am (GMT+10:00) 
To: andrew 

Cc: darktable forum 

Subject: Re: [darktable-user] Trouble with Retouch
  module 


  
  The mouse wheel, sorry for the typo.
  
  
Le jeu. 9 janv. 2020
  15:23, Florian W 
  a écrit :


  
Hi Andrew,
  
  
  It works like for masks, you can
use the more wheel to modify the size.
  
  
  You made me realize that it's not specified in the
  manual of the retouch module.
I'll look forward to add it.


Cheers
Florian
  
  
Le ven. 3
  janv. 2020 12:31, andrew 
  a écrit :


  
Hi I installed DT from a ppa
  yesterday and was over the moon, but today
  I needed the retouch module, and the
  selected tools, brush, circle and ellipse
  all appeared at a very large size and
  would not submit to attempts to resize.
Any suggestions
Gratefully
Andrew Greig





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Re: [darktable-user] Installing darktable 3.0 on windows

[HaJo Schatz]

Open a cmd-prompt (START, then type 'cmd'). 'cd' into the darktable program
directory. run darktable with 'darktable -d'. That should produce
debug-output which the experts here might be able to read, understand and
comment on.
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 5:21 AM Delbert brown  wrote:

> What I have done so far several times
>
>1. I uninstalled both 2.6 and 3.0
>2. I went through my hard drive deleted everything associated with
>darktable all folder even data bases and libraries under appdata/ local
>3. I have went through my registry and deleted every entry that
>reference darktable
>4. I upgraded my video drivers
>5. I rolled back my video drivers to previous versions
>6. I changed video cards
>7. I have tried running with no video card on onboard video
>8. I tried reinstalling both versions of darktable each twice after
>doing all this.
>
> For some reason after attempting to upgrade to version 3.0 I can no long
> run either version of darktable even after cleaning the system as mentioned
> above
>
> 2.6 will no longer open it just flashes a black screen like a cmd prompt
> screen  and nothing happens darktable doesn’t even appear in task manager.
>
> 3.0 opens to the first screen and stops it appears in the task manager but
> appears to be idle using no resources
>
> Thank You
> Delbert Brown
>
> delbert_br...@mts.net
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Re: [darktable-user] 3.0 config questions

[jys]

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020, at 13:52, Stefan Klinger wrote:

> How can I diasble the arrows and the small strip at the edges of the
> monitor?  I still have
> 
> $ grep panels_collapse_controls ~/.config/darktable/darktablerc
> darkroom/ui/panels_collapse_controls=FALSE
> lighttable/ui/panels_collapse_controls=FALSE
> 
> but that seems to be ignored in version 3.0.  I can switch them off by
> pressing B, but after a restart they're back again.

If you're using a darktable version from after the panel-dragging was added, 
you should also have numbered versions of those, something like:

 darkroom/ui/0/panels_collapse_controls=FALSE
 lighttable/ui/1/panels_collapse_controls=FALSE

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[darktable-user] 3.0 config questions

[Stefan Klinger]

Hi,

lhanks for making it possible to change the CSS during runtime.

Thanks for making the highlighting of selected text more visible!

Thanks for providing a lighter theme!

Wooho! I can change the width of the side panels by dragging!


But I also have some questions regarding the new version:

-1-

How can I diasble the arrows and the small strip at the edges of the
monitor?  I still have

$ grep panels_collapse_controls ~/.config/darktable/darktablerc
darkroom/ui/panels_collapse_controls=FALSE
lighttable/ui/panels_collapse_controls=FALSE

but that seems to be ignored in version 3.0.  I can switch them off by
pressing B, but after a restart they're back again.

-2-

I have Ctrl+Down bound to toggle the bottom panel.  But it now seems
not to toggle a panel, but instead cycle through all different
configurations.  Same for the top panel.  I like the old way better, I
find it more predictable how often I have to press a button to see
something, or to see nothing.  Like Ctrl+F predictably switching the
film stip on or off, or Ctrl+H for the header.  Can I have real
toggling back plz?

Btw: Clicking on the panel controls (the frame areas with the arrows)
sometimes does nothing.  I have to move the mouse a little to se an
effect.  This has been there with the old version as well.

-3-

The thumbnails have a gradient at the bottom edge.  I assume that's
defined in the CSS files, but I could not find it.  Can I disable
this?  I prefer the more flat look.


Thanks
Stefan


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Re: [darktable-user] Trouble with Retouch module

[andrew]

Hi Florian,Thanks for your reply. In 2.6 I have used CTRL+ drag to rotate an 
ellipse, SHIFT + wheel to adjust the feather and the wheel to resize, but these 
are not working in DT 3.0. What other info can I supply to assist in achieving 
a solution, please?Thanks AndrewSent from Samsung tablet.
 Original message From: Florian W  Date: 
10/1/20  1:27 am  (GMT+10:00) To: andrew  Cc: darktable 
forum  Subject: Re: [darktable-user] 
Trouble with Retouch module The mouse wheel, sorry for the typo.Le jeu. 9 janv. 
2020 15:23, Florian W  a écrit :Hi Andrew,It works like 
for masks, you can use the more wheel to modify the size.You made me realize 
that it's not specified in the manual of the retouch module.I'll look forward 
to add it.CheersFlorianLe ven. 3 janv. 2020 12:31, andrew 
 a écrit :Hi I installed DT from a ppa yesterday and 
was over the moon, but today I needed the retouch module, and the selected 
tools, brush, circle and ellipse all appeared at a very large size and would 
not submit to attempts to resize.Any suggestionsGratefullyAndrew GreigSent from 
Samsung tablet.

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Re: [darktable-user] 3.0 (on building, for Guido)

[Hervé Sainct]

On 08/01/2020 20:28, Guido Scholz wrote :

> Instead of waiting for an updated ppa package, you can easily build your own 
> package
> based on the debian experimental source packages like this, does not take 
> more than
> five minutes: (...)

Guido, I too was extremely interested, and (being quite the newbie) I
tried.

Everything goes well until the 'fakeroot' build command, where I get

(a) a long series of warning about Lua* and then

(b) an error 2 fatal failure as 'the recipe for target "
override_dh_auto_configure " has failed'

I am unable to interpret what this override failure means... If you have
any advice...

Hervé

(*) the Lua error is (in french here, 'avertissement' means 'warning') :

dpkg-source: avertissement: suppression du répertoire src/external/lua
ignorée
dpkg-source: avertissement: suppression du fichier
src/external/lua/Makefile ignorée, utilisez --include-removal pour la
prendre en compte

(followed by a long range of similar warnings)

I am on Debian 9.11...





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Re: [darktable-user] Workflow question

[William Ferguson]

Make a style for each crop size with the crop and the sharpness.  Write a
lua script to duplicate the image, then apply the style.  The images are
automatically grouped with the original.  Furthermore, you could select
more than one image and have the sequence repeated on all the images.


Bill

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:52 AM Sherwood Botsford 
wrote:

>
> Let me try this again:
>
> Master image at 4000 x 6000 pixels.
> I want to make the following images:
> 2800 x 4200
> 2000 x 3000
> 1400 x 2100
> 1000 x 1500
> 700 x 1000
> 500 x 700
> 350 x 500
> 250 x 350
>
> adjusting the sharpness for each level.
>
> This is a routine operation to create a set of pictures available in
> various formats.
>
> At the end of this, I want ALL of these images to still be in DT.
>
> ***
>
> Sometimes Photoshop is the best application for a task.  Or 'originals'
> may come as .psd files
>
> ***
>
> How about some generalized hooks within DT?
>
> E.g. Run an arbitrary command in a temporary folder, importing the file(s)
> back into DT.
>
> Is all this possible with Lua?
>
> Ok, ok.  I'll go play and see what I can figure out.
>
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Sherwood
>
>
>
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 04:13, Matt Maguire 
> wrote:
>
>> Check out Keifer Hunniford's YouTube channel, he has a couple of videos
>> on this topic.
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 16:20, Coding Dave  wrote:
>>
>>> You can also group images. That was you keep your different versions
>>> tied to the original one.
>>>
>>> Kneops  schrieb am Do., 9. Jan. 2020, 09:00:
>>>
 I only edit few images outside of DT because most of the time they
 don't
 need extra editing. But when I do edit images in Gimp, DT saves them as
 tiff file next to the original raw file, so they are 'linked'.

 I tag images at the end when all editing is done, so then I won't have
 issues with untagged images because I tag the raw and tiff files at the
 end.



 Op 09-01-2020 om 00:11 schreef August Schwerdfeger:
 > * Cropping and sharpening are performed in Darktable as
 non-destructive
 > edits.
 >
 > * Resizing/scaling is done as part of the export process rather than
 as
 > a darkroom edit, although as far as I know there is not a ready-made
 > export target ("storage") that allows exporting the same image in
 > several resolutions/formats at once.
 >
 > * The automatic "master"-to-duplicate propagation of tags is also not
 > feasible out-of-the-box, as tags added to one version of an image
 cannot
 > be automatically propagated to the other versions. You could, of
 course,
 > select all the versions of a specific image when applying the tag, or
 if
 > this is not possible there are also some Lua add-ons [1]
 >  that would help copy
 the
 > new tag.
 >
 > --
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 > aug...@schwerdfeger.name 
 >
 > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 3:46 PM Patrick Shanahan >>> > > wrote:
 >
 > * Sherwood Botsford >>> > > [01-08-20 16:04]:
 >  > I've run into this a couple of times related to the catalog
 process:
 >  >
 >  > Consider:
 >  >
 >  > 1  I import a roll of images.
 >  > 2  I assign keywords to the images.
 >  > 3  I tweak them, some in various ways.
 >  > 4  I crop, resize and sharpen some of them.
 >  > 5 I export them in various resolutions and various file
 formats.
 >  >
 >  > Starting at step 4 I'm performing destructive edits.
 >
 > so at step 4 you have left dt and are editing in some other
 software?
 > dt does not due destructive edits.
 >
 >  > Is there a recommended workflow that would enable:
 >
 > use dt rather than some other software.
 >
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Re: [darktable-user] Workflow question

[Sherwood Botsford]

Let me try this again:

Master image at 4000 x 6000 pixels.
I want to make the following images:
2800 x 4200
2000 x 3000
1400 x 2100
1000 x 1500
700 x 1000
500 x 700
350 x 500
250 x 350

adjusting the sharpness for each level.

This is a routine operation to create a set of pictures available in
various formats.

At the end of this, I want ALL of these images to still be in DT.

***

Sometimes Photoshop is the best application for a task.  Or 'originals' may
come as .psd files

***

How about some generalized hooks within DT?

E.g. Run an arbitrary command in a temporary folder, importing the file(s)
back into DT.

Is all this possible with Lua?

Ok, ok.  I'll go play and see what I can figure out.




Regards

Sherwood



On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 04:13, Matt Maguire  wrote:

> Check out Keifer Hunniford's YouTube channel, he has a couple of videos on
> this topic.
>
> On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 16:20, Coding Dave  wrote:
>
>> You can also group images. That was you keep your different versions tied
>> to the original one.
>>
>> Kneops  schrieb am Do., 9. Jan. 2020, 09:00:
>>
>>> I only edit few images outside of DT because most of the time they don't
>>> need extra editing. But when I do edit images in Gimp, DT saves them as
>>> tiff file next to the original raw file, so they are 'linked'.
>>>
>>> I tag images at the end when all editing is done, so then I won't have
>>> issues with untagged images because I tag the raw and tiff files at the
>>> end.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Op 09-01-2020 om 00:11 schreef August Schwerdfeger:
>>> > * Cropping and sharpening are performed in Darktable as
>>> non-destructive
>>> > edits.
>>> >
>>> > * Resizing/scaling is done as part of the export process rather than
>>> as
>>> > a darkroom edit, although as far as I know there is not a ready-made
>>> > export target ("storage") that allows exporting the same image in
>>> > several resolutions/formats at once.
>>> >
>>> > * The automatic "master"-to-duplicate propagation of tags is also not
>>> > feasible out-of-the-box, as tags added to one version of an image
>>> cannot
>>> > be automatically propagated to the other versions. You could, of
>>> course,
>>> > select all the versions of a specific image when applying the tag, or
>>> if
>>> > this is not possible there are also some Lua add-ons [1]
>>> >  that would help copy
>>> the
>>> > new tag.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > August Schwerdfeger
>>> > aug...@schwerdfeger.name 
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 3:46 PM Patrick Shanahan >> > > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > * Sherwood Botsford >> > > [01-08-20 16:04]:
>>> >  > I've run into this a couple of times related to the catalog
>>> process:
>>> >  >
>>> >  > Consider:
>>> >  >
>>> >  > 1  I import a roll of images.
>>> >  > 2  I assign keywords to the images.
>>> >  > 3  I tweak them, some in various ways.
>>> >  > 4  I crop, resize and sharpen some of them.
>>> >  > 5 I export them in various resolutions and various file formats.
>>> >  >
>>> >  > Starting at step 4 I'm performing destructive edits.
>>> >
>>> > so at step 4 you have left dt and are editing in some other
>>> software?
>>> > dt does not due destructive edits.
>>> >
>>> >  > Is there a recommended workflow that would enable:
>>> >
>>> > use dt rather than some other software.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > (paka)Patrick Shanahan   Plainfield, Indiana, USA
>>> > @ptilopteri
>>> > http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Member
>>> > facebook/ptilopteri
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>>> > freenode
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