Re: [darktable-user] Import Lightroom DNGs to DT
HaJo Schatz schrieb am 14.02.20 um 05:43: On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:15 AM Subhash Fotografie wrote: [Guillermo Rozas schrieb am 12.2.2020 um 15:01 Uhr:] darktable expects a file with extension .dng.xmp, and it is ignoring the plain .xmp file? (but that doesn't explain why you see the tags...) No, DT is expected to read the .xmp file from LR. But as I mentioned before I have DNGs Lightroom has created. For these files there are no .xmp files because LR writes everything directly into the DNGs. So for a test I extracted the .xmp from one of these DNGs with exiftool (in the meantime I tried various commands), named it correctly, put it in the same directory as the image file and hoped that DT will read all or most of the LR edits now when importing the image to its library. But it did not. Apologies if I've missed quite a bit of the discussion, somehow threading sometimes seems broken for this list. Anyway, Subhash, are you expecting your "edits" such as exposure, colors, sharpness, etc to be imported into darktable from lightroom? If that would be possible at all then my world would collapse... Those things - the processing pipeline - are proprietary to lightroom and will probably never ever be supported by darktable. The only thing you can expect to import is the metadata (Title, copyright, tags, ... I.e. text that you entered in lightroom). Maybe this would shed some light: https://mathiashueber.com/migrate-from-lightroom-to-open-source-alternative/ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org There has also been this discussion about darktables capability to import _edits_ from lightroom: https://discuss.pixls.us/t/importing-lightroom-development/6021 and: never _convert_ to DNG as DNG is obviously not compatible to itself: https://theblog.adobe.com/february-lightroom-releases/ (3rd paragraph in the first chapter) -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: Re(6): [darktable-user] Import Lightroom DNGs to DT
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 2:15 AM Subhash Fotografie wrote: > [Guillermo Rozas schrieb am 12.2.2020 um 15:01 > Uhr:] > > >darktable expects a file with extension > >.dng.xmp, and it is ignoring the plain .xmp file? (but that doesn't > >explain why you see the tags...) > > No, DT is expected to read the .xmp file from LR. But as I mentioned > before I have DNGs Lightroom has created. For these files there are no .xmp > files because LR writes everything directly into the DNGs. So for a test I > extracted the .xmp from one of these DNGs with exiftool (in the meantime I > tried various commands), named it correctly, put it in the same directory > as the image file and hoped that DT will read all or most of the LR edits > now when importing the image to its library. But it did not. > > Apologies if I've missed quite a bit of the discussion, somehow threading sometimes seems broken for this list. Anyway, Subhash, are you expecting your "edits" such as exposure, colors, sharpness, etc to be imported into darktable from lightroom? If that would be possible at all then my world would collapse... Those things - the processing pipeline - are proprietary to lightroom and will probably never ever be supported by darktable. The only thing you can expect to import is the metadata (Title, copyright, tags, ... I.e. text that you entered in lightroom). Maybe this would shed some light: https://mathiashueber.com/migrate-from-lightroom-to-open-source-alternative/ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] New documentation for 3.0
Possibly installing Linux as a dual boot may solve your problem. On 2020-02-13 2:03 a.m., Subhash Fotografie wrote: [tony Hamilton schrieb am 12.2.2020 um 22:41 Uhr:] …I have no idea what a tarball is, but I think that what I would get, were I able to download it, is the source code. This is of no use to me: after trying repeatedly over more than 10 years I have never once successfully compiled a linux app, for very clear reasons: there are ALWAYS mistakes in the contents of the source package, or the developer has made assumptions about the environment of my system which are not valid, or I cannot understand the process (which is usually not defined) or some unexpected error occurs, with a resulting error message which is totally foreign to me. Is there not some sort of readily accessible repository for DT 3.0.0 which I can access? If this is not available (because it represents too much work), then it is to difficult for me too. I am a user of DT, not a developer… I really feel with you! As an Apple user I made the same experience many times. Just yesterday trying to install Exiv2 on my Mac without success. Followed the description and already the first command led to an error. Searched for a ready to use version or an usual package for Mac OS but gave up after one hour. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re(9): [darktable-user] Import Lightroom DNGs to DT
[Subhash Fotografie schrieb am 12.2.2020 um 20:51 Uhr:] >Maybe my extraction is the culprit, so I want to ask for another person >to try the process of extracting a .xmp file from a .dng file Lightroom >has edited, put them in the same directory and import the .dng file in >DT to see if the Lightroom edits were recognized. Ok, no one here. - So, I tried to install exiv2 because I thought maybe it would create files DT could read but did not succeed in installing it. Next thing I tried: Connect my card reader to my Apple, try to download images with DT. Did not succeed, DT doesn't find the reader even though it finds it when I try to open an image from the card instead of copying it to the hard drive. In the first case "no supported devices found" in the second case just navigating to the image and no problem - except of still belonging to my card reader and not be copied to the drive. So, as usual I imported with Lightroom but did not convert to DNGs but leave them as ORFs (Olympus RAW image file). Then edited a little and then copied an image file and its sidecar file to a test folder to import it in DT. And that worked finally: Also a crop was red, the tags anyway, and the image looked not that bad. That is no solution for my 8 DNG images but one step forward (ORFs are understood to some extent) and one step back (could not import from card reader). darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re(2): [darktable-user] New documentation for 3.0
[tony Hamilton schrieb am 12.2.2020 um 22:41 Uhr:] >…I have no idea what >a tarball is, but I think that what I would get, were I able to download >it, is the source code. This is of no use to me: after trying repeatedly >over more than 10 years I have never once successfully compiled a linux >app, for very clear reasons: there are ALWAYS mistakes in the contents >of the source package, or the developer has made assumptions about the >environment of my system which are not valid, or I cannot understand the >process (which is usually not defined) or some unexpected error occurs, >with a resulting error message which is totally foreign to me. Is there >not some sort of readily accessible repository for DT 3.0.0 which I can >access? If this is not available (because it represents too much work), >then it is to difficult for me too. I am a user of DT, not a developer… I really feel with you! As an Apple user I made the same experience many times. Just yesterday trying to install Exiv2 on my Mac without success. Followed the description and already the first command led to an error. Searched for a ready to use version or an usual package for Mac OS but gave up after one hour. -- Aktuell im Fotoblog „Anschauungen photosophisch”: „Abwedeln und Nachbelichten” http://fotoblog.subhash.at darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.or
[darktable-user] Re: [darktable-dev] New documentation for 3.0
Very nice! Do we receive a further communication when the manual will be ready for the translation? Thanks, Maurizio Il giorno mer 12 feb 2020 alle ore 13:11 Pascal Obry ha scritto: > > Thanks to Matt Maguire for building a script to build the documentation > we are now in better shape to build it. > > So I have created the PDF which can be downloaded here: > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/releases/tag/release-3.0.0 > > And the online documentation has also been updated for 3.0: > > https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/index.html > > All the links will soon be updated on darktable.org. > > Note that the 3.0 documentation is not finalized yet. > > Have a nice day! > > -- > Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) > > The best way to travel is by means of imagination > > http://www.obry.net > > gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key F949BD3B > > ___ > darktable developer mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-dev+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
