Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?

2020-07-18 Thread Jean-Luc CECCOLI
Hello,

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> Defenitely Linux!
> 
> 
> .../...
> DT on Windows was by far not as fast as on Linux.

Totally agree !

Rgrds,

J.-Luc

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Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?

2020-07-18 Thread Ulrich vor dem Esche
I have to agree: I use Darktable and GIMP on Windows 10 and it runs
very well, I tried to install it on my older computer (running Ubuntu)
and it worked too, but not as smoothly. You probably need to be a
Linux expert to set up a linux system to give you the same performance
/ results, and your hardware has a bigger impact than the system you
use.

Am Sa., 18. Juli 2020 um 02:22 Uhr schrieb Terry Pinfold :
>
> I need Windows to run I programs I use for work. I plan to set up a Linux 
> computer as well one day just for GIMP and Darktable. However, I can not 
> compare to Linux but Darktable works really well on Windows.
>
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 at 18:32,  wrote:
>>
>> My understanding is that darktable started life as Linux software, but I 
>> know it is now available on Windows as well.  I have the flexibility to 
>> install darktable in Windows (10) or Linux (debian).  My assumption was that 
>> darktable would be more reliable and the user interface would work better on 
>> on Linux, since that's what is was design for, but I realize that might not 
>> be true.
>>
>> Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on?
>>
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Re: [darktable-user] Export width/height empty

2020-07-18 Thread Bernhard




Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 18.07.20 um 03:44:

* Bernhard  [07-17-20 19:29]:

Hi,

for some time now i have been wondering why the fields export height and
width in the module image information are empty - for all my images.
What should be displayed there and how can I activate it if necessary?

(no mention of this in the manual
https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/image_information.html)

Mine for master latest build available att on openSUSE Tumbleweed linux
show "0" which indicates the maximum available.  Hard to say what you are
seeing as you fail to mention version or operating system.  I know of no
where else in dt to configure the export size, but if you have never
designated a size, perhaps that may be the reason that non appears.  But
after 8+ years using dt, I cannot remember ever designating an export
image size.


Thanks for this.
And sorry, you're right.
I'm on Debian Buster and use darktable master 3.1.0+2465~g75f505a86 
built on 2020-07-16

I also get a value of '0'  with 3.0.2 on the same machine.

I assumed to find the size set in the crop/rotate module there ... but 
perhaps wishful thinking.
Selecting pictures I already exported doesn't make a difference from 
pictures never touched.


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Bernhard

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Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?

2020-07-18 Thread Kneops

Defenitely Linux!


I have compared both on the same pc. I first installed Linux on this new 
and fast pc, wondering how well LR would work under Virtual Box. Pretty 
good but not fast enough, and I compared it with DT. DT was blazing 
fast! Unbelievable and unprecendented Trump would call it ;).


Because I than decided to install Windows on that same pc because I need 
the native speed of Windows and LR, I still decided to install DT too (I 
also have DT on an older Linux pc). DT on Windows was by far not as fast 
as on Linux.




Op 18-07-2020 om 08:29 schreef I. Ivanov:



    Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on?



Linux!!!

I am using a 9 year old Dell XPS i7 gen 2 (sandy bridge) (8 cores total) 
- 8GB RAM and PopOS 20.04 that I upgraded to few weeks ago. And I prefer 
to use this machine compared to Dell Precision - Windows 10 Professional 
with 16 GB Ram - 8 cores i5 or i7 (not sure) - Gen 8  - 1.5 year old 
again 8 cores.


I didn't buy the Windows - I have it from work and work on it daily (I 
don't use it for personal use except to try one program or another). The 
windows has even GPU Nvidia Quadro P1000 that Darktable utilizes but I 
see no significant improvement in performance.


With all that windows has to offer on the hardware (I mean the Dell 
machine) I feel that the performance and experience did not match Linux.


Because of my older configuration - I used Ubuntu 16.04 with Darktable 
2.6.3 and this configuration (on the 9 year old machine) would happily 
compete with Windows 10 Professional (the new 1.5 year old computer) 
with Darktable 3.0.2


Now since my 9 year old machine is upgraded to Pop OS 20.04 - Darktable 
3.0.2 still works great but in some modules (like denoise, retouch) I 
can feel the aging hardware. Even with this - the service that I 
received from the hardware (Dell XPS x2), Linux and Darktable are more 
than impressive.


I don't know what the experience is to run Darktable on a brand new 
machine under Linux. Looking at youtube videos sometimes - majority of 
the presenters that run Linux appear to have better experience than my 
Windows 10 professional. By the way - they are not only running 
Darktable - at the same time they record the video for youtube.


Hope you will find the best platform that serves your needs. I made my 
choice and it is Linux.


Regards,

B

 


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Re: [darktable-user] Windows or Linux?

2020-07-18 Thread I. Ivanov




Which platform (Windows or Linux) will give darktable work better on?



Linux!!!

I am using a 9 year old Dell XPS i7 gen 2 (sandy bridge) (8 cores total) 
- 8GB RAM and PopOS 20.04 that I upgraded to few weeks ago. And I prefer 
to use this machine compared to Dell Precision - Windows 10 Professional 
with 16 GB Ram - 8 cores i5 or i7 (not sure) - Gen 8  - 1.5 year old 
again 8 cores.


I didn't buy the Windows - I have it from work and work on it daily (I 
don't use it for personal use except to try one program or another). The 
windows has even GPU Nvidia Quadro P1000 that Darktable utilizes but I 
see no significant improvement in performance.


With all that windows has to offer on the hardware (I mean the Dell 
machine) I feel that the performance and experience did not match Linux.


Because of my older configuration - I used Ubuntu 16.04 with Darktable 
2.6.3 and this configuration (on the 9 year old machine) would happily 
compete with Windows 10 Professional (the new 1.5 year old computer) 
with Darktable 3.0.2


Now since my 9 year old machine is upgraded to Pop OS 20.04 - Darktable 
3.0.2 still works great but in some modules (like denoise, retouch) I 
can feel the aging hardware. Even with this - the service that I 
received from the hardware (Dell XPS x2), Linux and Darktable are more 
than impressive.


I don't know what the experience is to run Darktable on a brand new 
machine under Linux. Looking at youtube videos sometimes - majority of 
the presenters that run Linux appear to have better experience than my 
Windows 10 professional. By the way - they are not only running 
Darktable - at the same time they record the video for youtube.


Hope you will find the best platform that serves your needs. I made my 
choice and it is Linux.


Regards,

B


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