Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
oops I only meant to resend the first paragraph. sorry about that On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 2:09 PM Remco Viëtor wrote: > On mardi 19 juillet 2022 19:25:03 CEST Michael wrote: > > there was a slight typo: > (...) > So you sent the whole 25k again... > > spam folder... > > > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
On mardi 19 juillet 2022 19:25:03 CEST Michael wrote: > there was a slight typo: (...) So you sent the whole 25k again... spam folder... darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
there was a slight typo: yes sir the windows fix (a reinstall) fixed it (I run linux). in reality gimp wasn't installed correctly. I had the flatpak version installed. I reinstalled the apt version and everything was good after. the flatpak version was installed from the ISO. as for when told that my hdr method with gimp didn't work this is how you do it: pull the three exposures into gimp open into layers (in this order) the dark exposure, medium, light create grayscale layer mask On the dark layer then increase both the brightness and contrast. Save as a tiff then open in darktable and play with whitebalance and play with brightness (you might have to decrease it). - On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 1:11 PM Michael wrote: > yes sir the windows fix fixed it. in reality gimp wasn't installed > correctly. I had the flatpak version installed. I reinstalled the apt > version and everything was good after. the flatpak version was installed > from the ISO. > as for when told that my hdr method with gimp didn't work this is how you > do it: > pull the three exposures into gimp > open into layers (in this order) the dark exposure, medium, light > create grayscale layer mask On the layer mask increase both the brightness > and contrast. Save as a tiff then open in darktable and play with > whitebalance and play with brightness (you might have to decrease it). > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 2:37 AM Terry Pinfold wrote: > >> It seems a fresh install of GIMP fixed the problem for Mike. Some of his >> messages only came to me so you may have missed that it was resolved. Also >> ARW files are sony and it was my error to believe they were Fuji. >> Sledgehammers are some times good with Windows computers. Some linux or Mac >> users might recommend sledge hammers for all Windows computers >> >> On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 16:28, Bernhard >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Terry Pinfold schrieb am 19.07.22 um 07:46: >>> > Since Mike is trying to open a fuji ARW camera file I am not sure why >>> GIMP is trying to use a Nikon plugin for the task. I am on windows and >>> using the latest version of GIMP and DT 4.1 and I can open the ARW files >>> fine via GIMP. Maybe a fresh install of GIMP may help. That might be a >>> sledgehammer approach, but the program is so easy to download and install >>> that it would not take much effort. >>> since Mike is *not* specific of what error occurs I tried to verify we >>> speak of the same thing - hence the screenshot. >>> So I have to take what I have - Nikon, Panasonic, Olympus ... >>> >>> Reinstall ... ok, Windows approach ... I am out here ... >>> >>> -- >>> >>> regards >>> Bernhard >>> >>> https://www.bilddateien.de >>> >>> >>> >>> darktable user mailing list >>> to unsubscribe send a mail to >>> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Terry Pinfold >> Photography & Imaging Tutor >> Hobart, Tasmania, Australia >> Ph 0408 699053 >> >> >> >> >> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
yes sir the windows fix fixed it. in reality gimp wasn't installed correctly. I had the flatpak version installed. I reinstalled the apt version and everything was good after. the flatpak version was installed from the ISO. as for when told that my hdr method with gimp didn't work this is how you do it: pull the three exposures into gimp open into layers (in this order) the dark exposure, medium, light create grayscale layer mask On the layer mask increase both the brightness and contrast. Save as a tiff then open in darktable and play with whitebalance and play with brightness (you might have to decrease it). On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 2:37 AM Terry Pinfold wrote: > It seems a fresh install of GIMP fixed the problem for Mike. Some of his > messages only came to me so you may have missed that it was resolved. Also > ARW files are sony and it was my error to believe they were Fuji. > Sledgehammers are some times good with Windows computers. Some linux or Mac > users might recommend sledge hammers for all Windows computers > > On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 16:28, Bernhard > wrote: > >> >> >> Terry Pinfold schrieb am 19.07.22 um 07:46: >> > Since Mike is trying to open a fuji ARW camera file I am not sure why >> GIMP is trying to use a Nikon plugin for the task. I am on windows and >> using the latest version of GIMP and DT 4.1 and I can open the ARW files >> fine via GIMP. Maybe a fresh install of GIMP may help. That might be a >> sledgehammer approach, but the program is so easy to download and install >> that it would not take much effort. >> since Mike is *not* specific of what error occurs I tried to verify we >> speak of the same thing - hence the screenshot. >> So I have to take what I have - Nikon, Panasonic, Olympus ... >> >> Reinstall ... ok, Windows approach ... I am out here ... >> >> -- >> >> regards >> Bernhard >> >> https://www.bilddateien.de >> >> >> >> darktable user mailing list >> to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> >> > > -- > Terry Pinfold > Photography & Imaging Tutor > Hobart, Tasmania, Australia > Ph 0408 699053 > > > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Aw: Re: [darktable-user] Darktable on xubunbu 22.04 / wayland / nvidia: Recommended or not?
Hi Thanks for this answer. In the meantime, I researched a bit, and found one information where it says: NVidia has asked Ubuntu to *not* use Wayland in 22.04 for NVidia cards. So probably, 22.04 + NVidia is still using X11. You can find out by running echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE in a terminal. See also https://askubuntu.com/questions/904940/how-can-i-tell-if-i-am-running-wayland So maybe your issues are not Wayland-related. Anyway, I have decided to stay with 20.04 for some time. I mean, I'm not using a long term support version to change it every other day ;-) Ok, seriously, I was interested in Wayland, if it was stable and working fine, I wanted to give it a try (although I know X since X10, it would be a hard time to say good-bye). But Wayland seems not to be usable today, so maybe I'll wait for 24.04. Best regards, Michael -- Michael Staats michael.sta...@gmx.de Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2022 um 15:47 Uhr Von: "Frank J." An: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Betreff: Re: [darktable-user] Darktable on xubunbu 22.04 / wayland / nvidia: Recommended or not? Am 13.07.22 um 14:04 schrieb Šarūnas: > ... > I wish to be wrong, but color management in Wayland may still have a > long way to go [1]. > > ... > > 1. https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/-/issues/467 > Now I get an idea, what the reason for my problems may be. Because Ubuntu 20.04 on my mashine had some problems on startup, last week I decided to do the LTS-upgrade earlier then 22.04.1 is released on 4th August. I got DT 4.0 from PPA "unbuntuhandbook". After upgrade to some new nvidia-drivers, the openCL-Support in DT was fixed. But one of my displays (EIZO) seemed to be out of calibration, it looks a bit too green after the upgrade. I found, that DisplayCAL (3.8.x) is not longer in the sources in 22.04 because of the dependencies to python 2, with is not longer supported. But there is a new projekt "DisplayCAL-PY3" porting the code to python 3. It can be installed with "pip install DisplayCAL" which gives you a version 3.9.6, still in progress but works. The calibration of my new ASUS-display was done in half an hour. But the calibration of my older EIZO (has run more then 8000 hours), takes 2 days with many attempts. Each run with other results, some lookes green, some looked magenta, some had bad messages. Sometimes even the hardware-defined RGB-start-point drifted from one attempt to the next. Each time the result was different, the colors seemed to be "unstable". I worried, the last days of my diplay has come. At least (after a dozen tries) I got a icc-profile that seems to work. May this problems result from an unstable implementation of colormanagement in wayland in Ubuntu 22.04? Or should I begin to save some money for a new display? Why does Ubuntu do an upgrade to a system without a stable colormanagement? Hardware: NVidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB, ASUS VA24E, EIZO FORIS FS2333, XRite colormunki Smile. Frank darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
It seems a fresh install of GIMP fixed the problem for Mike. Some of his messages only came to me so you may have missed that it was resolved. Also ARW files are sony and it was my error to believe they were Fuji. Sledgehammers are some times good with Windows computers. Some linux or Mac users might recommend sledge hammers for all Windows computers On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 16:28, Bernhard wrote: > > > Terry Pinfold schrieb am 19.07.22 um 07:46: > > Since Mike is trying to open a fuji ARW camera file I am not sure why > GIMP is trying to use a Nikon plugin for the task. I am on windows and > using the latest version of GIMP and DT 4.1 and I can open the ARW files > fine via GIMP. Maybe a fresh install of GIMP may help. That might be a > sledgehammer approach, but the program is so easy to download and install > that it would not take much effort. > since Mike is *not* specific of what error occurs I tried to verify we > speak of the same thing - hence the screenshot. > So I have to take what I have - Nikon, Panasonic, Olympus ... > > Reinstall ... ok, Windows approach ... I am out here ... > > -- > > regards > Bernhard > > https://www.bilddateien.de > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > -- Terry Pinfold Photography & Imaging Tutor Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Ph 0408 699053 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
Terry Pinfold schrieb am 19.07.22 um 07:46: Since Mike is trying to open a fuji ARW camera file I am not sure why GIMP is trying to use a Nikon plugin for the task. I am on windows and using the latest version of GIMP and DT 4.1 and I can open the ARW files fine via GIMP. Maybe a fresh install of GIMP may help. That might be a sledgehammer approach, but the program is so easy to download and install that it would not take much effort. since Mike is *not* specific of what error occurs I tried to verify we speak of the same thing - hence the screenshot. So I have to take what I have - Nikon, Panasonic, Olympus ... Reinstall ... ok, Windows approach ... I am out here ... -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] start raw in gimp
How would I get the light exposure to show through? On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 1:33 AM Michael wrote: > Actually, what I wanted came out with the JPG images. I'll show you: > The first image I was trying to achieve. Images 2, 3, and 4 are the > exposures. The fifth image is hdr created with gimp and darktable (I think > that is the one) > I did this by loading The three images into three different layers with > dark on top and the light layer on the bottom and the middle exposure is > u in the middle lol)then I create a grayscale layer mask on the dark > image then I increase Brightnesss and contrast. Then I save the result and > open it in darktable where I play with white balance. Then I activate > shadows and highlights. And finally I play with the brightness > Unfortunately I don't know how to get the wood texture to show like the > obeo image (the one I'm trying to achieve.. > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 1:00 AM Michael wrote: > >> Stupid typo (I was in the parking lot at work when I wrote that. In any >> case I try opening a raw in gimp and an error pops up: >> >> Opening '/home/michael/Desktop/Pictures/PIC05818.ARW' failed: >> >> There is no RAW loader installed to open 'Raw Sony' files. >> >> GIMP currently supports these RAW loaders: >> - darktable (http://www.darktable.org/), at least 1.7 >> - RawTherapee (http://rawtherapee.com/), at least 5.2 >> >> Please install one of them in order to load RAW files. >> >> it worked in 3.8. Apparently something is wrong . I was told there is at >> least. >> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 11:52 PM Michael wrote: >> >>> Greetings from Florida! Well that is actually how I was thinking of >>> doing it. Gimp won’t open the raw in stop and no one knows how to >>> get it to work. >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 7:12 PM Terry Pinfold >>> wrote: >>> Hi Mike, I presume you are the Mike I have communicated with before from Florida? If I want to work an image in GIMP and how I was planning on doing it. D Darktable I use the open feature in GIMP and being a RAW file it opens the image in DT. I do the necessary edits in DT and then just shutdown DT and the image is moved automatically across to GIMP as a 32 bit floating point file. I then edit the image in GIMP and export as normal. The other way I use the two programs together is to edit in DT first, export as a 16 bit tiff and then open the 16 bit tiff in GIMP. I appreciate that these may not be the solutions you are looking for but it works well for my needs. On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 04:09, Michael wrote: > I can't start a raw file in Gimp via darktable and was wondering if > any one has solved/has this problem? > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > -- darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >>> -- >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >> >> >> -- >> :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
