Re: [darktable-user] Module that still applies even if removed

2023-05-13 Thread Jean-Luc

Le 13/05/2023 à 18:45, Remco Viëtor a écrit :

On samedi 13 mai 2023 18:41:52 CEST Remco Viëtor wrote:

On samedi 13 mai 2023 18:00:17 CEST Jean-Luc wrote:

Le 13/05/2023 à 14:03, Remco Viëtor a écrit :

On samedi 13 mai 2023 12:23:12 CEST Jean-Luc wrote:

Hello,

Maybe I am doing things really wrong, but I am running into a problem
.../...
I am getting nuts - what on earth am I doing wrong ?

Going nuts not getting. :-(

.../...

It sounds like you tried to change a built-in preset and store it under the
same name. I don't think you can change the built-in presets.

No, I did duplicate an existing one.

But the solution is simple: select the layout you want to use as a basis,
then go to "manage presets" and "duplicate" the preset. You'll be asked to
give it a new name, and then you can adjust it to your liking.

That is what I did.

Oh, and a quick follow-up: module layout set through those presets doesn't
influence which modules will be auto-applied. That's determined by your
workflow settings in the "settings" dialog and possible presets in individual
modules.

In my case, there is no preset defined in the module.
By the way, I would expect that removing a module from a preset would 
prevent it from being applied and activated.

There is definitely something I have trouble in understanding.
I think Aurélien P. or Luc V. might have done videos where this could be 
explained, I just have to get ahold of the one.


Rgrds,


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Re: [darktable-user] Module that still applies even if removed

2023-05-13 Thread Remco Viëtor
On samedi 13 mai 2023 18:41:52 CEST Remco Viëtor wrote:
> On samedi 13 mai 2023 18:00:17 CEST Jean-Luc wrote:
> > Le 13/05/2023 à 14:03, Remco Viëtor a écrit :
> > > On samedi 13 mai 2023 12:23:12 CEST Jean-Luc wrote:
> > >> Hello,
> > >> 
> > >> Maybe I am doing things really wrong, but I am running into a problem
> > >> that the manual could not help me to solve.
> > >> If I add a module to a workflow, it is easy to have it autoapplied.
> > >> But, if I then remove it from the workflow, it still gets applied and
> > >> activated upon compress history or new import - whatever I do.
> > >> I am getting nuts - what on earth am I doing wrong ?
> > > 
> > > Which module?
> > > 
> > > And what exactly do you mean by "adding a module to a workflow"? Afaik
> > > (version 4.2.1) it's not possible to add a module to one of the
> > > predefined
> > > workflows.
> > > 
> > > What you can do is define auto-applied *presets*. But removal of the
> > > preset
> > > should stop them from being autoapplied...
> > > 
> > > Remco
> > 
> > Hello Remco,
> > 
> > Yes, you are right, wrong terminology from my side. What I was calling
> > workflow is actually a preset from the modules menu.
> > The machine running dt is three roms away from the one I am writing from.
> > I cloned the scene referred preset and rearranged the modules within,
> > tweaking some of them - filmic RGB is one.
> > Now, I would like to remove the filmic RGB module, but even then it
> > still gets applied at new import or history compression.
> > I tried with another module - sigmoid, that I just added - it behaves
> > the same : no way to have it forgotten once it has been added.
> 
> It sounds like you tried to change a built-in preset and store it under the
> same name. I don't think you can change the built-in presets.
> 
> But the solution is simple: select the layout you want to use as a basis,
> then go to "manage presets" and "duplicate" the preset. You'll be asked to
> give it a new name, and then you can adjust it to your liking.
> 
> (Rapidement: il faut choisir un "preset" comme base, le *dupliquer* et
> modifier le copie)
Oh, and a quick follow-up: module layout set through those presets doesn't 
influence which modules will be auto-applied. That's determined by your 
workflow settings in the "settings" dialog and possible presets in individual 
modules.



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Re: [darktable-user] Module that still applies even if removed

2023-05-13 Thread Remco Viëtor
On samedi 13 mai 2023 18:00:17 CEST Jean-Luc wrote:
> Le 13/05/2023 à 14:03, Remco Viëtor a écrit :
> > On samedi 13 mai 2023 12:23:12 CEST Jean-Luc wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> Maybe I am doing things really wrong, but I am running into a problem
> >> that the manual could not help me to solve.
> >> If I add a module to a workflow, it is easy to have it autoapplied.
> >> But, if I then remove it from the workflow, it still gets applied and
> >> activated upon compress history or new import - whatever I do.
> >> I am getting nuts - what on earth am I doing wrong ?
> > 
> > Which module?
> > 
> > And what exactly do you mean by "adding a module to a workflow"? Afaik
> > (version 4.2.1) it's not possible to add a module to one of the predefined
> > workflows.
> > 
> > What you can do is define auto-applied *presets*. But removal of the
> > preset
> > should stop them from being autoapplied...
> > 
> > Remco
> 
> Hello Remco,
> 
> Yes, you are right, wrong terminology from my side. What I was calling
> workflow is actually a preset from the modules menu.
> The machine running dt is three roms away from the one I am writing from.
> I cloned the scene referred preset and rearranged the modules within,
> tweaking some of them - filmic RGB is one.
> Now, I would like to remove the filmic RGB module, but even then it
> still gets applied at new import or history compression.
> I tried with another module - sigmoid, that I just added - it behaves
> the same : no way to have it forgotten once it has been added.

It sounds like you tried to change a built-in preset and store it under the 
same name. I don't think you can change the built-in presets.

But the solution is simple: select the layout you want to use as a basis, then 
go to "manage presets" and "duplicate" the preset. You'll be asked to give it 
a new name, and then you can adjust it to your liking.

(Rapidement: il faut choisir un "preset" comme base, le *dupliquer* et 
modifier le copie)

Remco





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Re: [darktable-user] Module that still applies even if removed

2023-05-13 Thread Jean-Luc

Le 13/05/2023 à 14:03, Remco Viëtor a écrit :

On samedi 13 mai 2023 12:23:12 CEST Jean-Luc wrote:

Hello,

Maybe I am doing things really wrong, but I am running into a problem
that the manual could not help me to solve.
If I add a module to a workflow, it is easy to have it autoapplied.
But, if I then remove it from the workflow, it still gets applied and
activated upon compress history or new import - whatever I do.
I am getting nuts - what on earth am I doing wrong ?

Which module?

And what exactly do you mean by "adding a module to a workflow"? Afaik
(version 4.2.1) it's not possible to add a module to one of the predefined
workflows.

What you can do is define auto-applied *presets*. But removal of the preset
should stop them from being autoapplied...

Remco


Hello Remco,

Yes, you are right, wrong terminology from my side. What I was calling 
workflow is actually a preset from the modules menu.

The machine running dt is three roms away from the one I am writing from.
I cloned the scene referred preset and rearranged the modules within, 
tweaking some of them - filmic RGB is one.
Now, I would like to remove the filmic RGB module, but even then it 
still gets applied at new import or history compression.
I tried with another module - sigmoid, that I just added - it behaves 
the same : no way to have it forgotten once it has been added.

Am I that stupid ? What part am I misunderstanding or doing wrong ?

Rgrds,

J.-Luc


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Re: [darktable-user] Module that still applies even if removed

2023-05-13 Thread Remco Viëtor
On samedi 13 mai 2023 12:23:12 CEST Jean-Luc wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Maybe I am doing things really wrong, but I am running into a problem
> that the manual could not help me to solve.
> If I add a module to a workflow, it is easy to have it autoapplied.
> But, if I then remove it from the workflow, it still gets applied and
> activated upon compress history or new import - whatever I do.
> I am getting nuts - what on earth am I doing wrong ?
Which module?

And what exactly do you mean by "adding a module to a workflow"? Afaik 
(version 4.2.1) it's not possible to add a module to one of the predefined 
workflows.

What you can do is define auto-applied *presets*. But removal of the preset 
should stop them from being autoapplied...

Remco







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[darktable-user] Module that still applies even if removed

2023-05-13 Thread Jean-Luc

Hello,

Maybe I am doing things really wrong, but I am running into a problem 
that the manual could not help me to solve.

If I add a module to a workflow, it is easy to have it autoapplied.
But, if I then remove it from the workflow, it still gets applied and 
activated upon compress history or new import - whatever I do.

I am getting nuts - what on earth am I doing wrong ?

Regards,

J.-Luc


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