[darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-06-11 Thread Pascal Obry


Hello,

The plan for 3.6 was sent recently, as a reminder:

- release    - T0    : July 3rd
- code freeze    - T0-10 : June 23rd - start create binaries
- string freeze  - T0-12 : June 11th - start translation
- feature freeze - T0-30 : June 1st  - only code fix
- safe mode  - T0-45 : mid-May   - only safe simple code

So today we are entering "string freeze" mode where only bug fix can be
integrated and no more string changes.

This means that all translators can start finalizing the translation
work. The dead line is June 23rd.

Thanks to all for making this 3.6 release very exiting !

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[darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6 - Feature Freeze

2021-06-01 Thread Pascal Obry


Hello,

The plan for 3.6 was sent recently, as a reminder:

- release    - T0    : July 3rd
- code freeze    - T0-10 : June 23rd - start create binaries
- string freeze  - T0-12 : June 11th - start translation
- feature freeze - T0-30 : June 1st  - only code fix
- safe mode  - T0-45 : mid-May   - only safe simple code

So today we are entering "feature freeze" where only bug fix can be
integrated.

If you want to help to finalize the release you can look at the known
issues that we want to fix for 3.6:

https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/milestone/18

Thanks to all for making this 3.6 release very exiting !

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[darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-05-16 Thread Pascal Obry


Hello,

The plan for 3.6 was sent recently, as a reminder:

- release    - T0    : July 3rd
- code freeze    - T0-10 : June 23rd - start create binaries
- string freeze  - T0-12 : June 11th - start translation
- feature freeze - T0-30 : June 1st  - only code fix
- safe mode  - T0-45 : mid-May   - only safe simple code

So today we are entering "safe mode" where only safe new features will
be considered for integration.

A reminder for all devs, please look at your current PR and see if it
can still be merged or not. Do not hesitate to start a discussion on
the PR about possible merging for 3.6. There is a small window of 15
days for integrating new feature afterward only bug fix will be
considered.

Thanks to all for making this 3.6 release very exiting !

Regards,

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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-17 Thread Hervé Sainct
I write to this list very seldom, and that is now because I just had to
create a filter on postmas...@gatworks.com.

Having seen the recent burden he brought to this list, I'd dare say
being recommended by him would have been a shame.

And insulted this way, an honor.

H.

Le 17/04/2021 à 09:10, Postmaster a écrit :
> I just cant recommend darktable to anyone with serious intentions.

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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-17 Thread Postmaster




On 4/13/21 2:53 PM, Jean-Luc CECCOLI wrote:

Message du 13/04/21 06:09
De : "Michael Staats"
A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
Copie à :
Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

On 13/04/2021 05:35, Chas G wrote:

Maybe I'm missing something since I tend to delete email pretty fast,
but I don't see where "Postmaster" has specified what has failed for him
or her.
i think the segfaults are plain enough. Crop and rotate not specific 
enough?


I think "postmaster" should be ignored. He's what has been called a
"troll" in the old Usenet days (I think the meaning has changed a bit
nowadays, but it's a still negative meaning, and that's what applies to
him). If someone would bother to find out what "gatworks.com" is, it
might help, but why waste the time?
Best regards,
Michael


That is what I was thinking too : a troll. Just to be ignored.

Rgrds,

J.-Luc
you may ignore, its just that u cant hide the many listed errors. I just 
cant recommend darktable to anyone with serious intentions. errata is 
ignored, and simply excused. call it what you will, but i dont see 
myself using any more of my time where the simple features of darktable 
just fail. Kill the messenger, its a time honored tradition.


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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-13 Thread Jean-Luc CECCOLI
> Message du 13/04/21 06:09
> De : "Michael Staats" 
> A : darktable-user@lists.darktable.org
> Copie à : 
> Objet : Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6
> 
> On 13/04/2021 05:35, Chas G wrote:
> > Maybe I'm missing something since I tend to delete email pretty fast,
> > but I don't see where "Postmaster" has specified what has failed for him
> > or her.
> 
> I think "postmaster" should be ignored. He's what has been called a
> "troll" in the old Usenet days (I think the meaning has changed a bit
> nowadays, but it's a still negative meaning, and that's what applies to
> him). If someone would bother to find out what "gatworks.com" is, it
> might help, but why waste the time?
> Best regards,
> Michael
> 
That is what I was thinking too : a troll. Just to be ignored.

Rgrds,

J.-Luc

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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-13 Thread Bill Wohler
+1 for ignoring the troll. Crop and rotate works for me.

Michael Staats  wrote:

> On 13/04/2021 05:35, Chas G wrote:
> > Maybe I'm missing something since I tend to delete email pretty fast,
> > but I don't see where "Postmaster" has specified what has failed for him
> > or her.
> 
> I think "postmaster" should be ignored. He's what has been called a
> "troll" in the old Usenet days (I think the meaning has changed a bit
> nowadays, but it's a still negative meaning, and that's what applies to
> him). If someone would bother to find out what "gatworks.com" is, it
> might help, but why waste the time?
> Best regards,
>   Michael
> 
> 
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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Chas G
I wouldn't be surprised if it is someone who gets their kicks from annoying
people, but I figure it cannot hurt to make one clear low key statement of
what I believe that the devs need to know to be able to help.

We shall see...

>>I think "postmaster" should be ignored. He's what has been called a
"troll" in the old Usenet days (I think the meaning has changed a bit
nowadays, but it's a still negative meaning, and that's what applies to
him). If someone would bother to find out what "gatworks.com" is, it
might help, but why waste the time?
Best regards,
Michael>


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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Michael Staats
On 13/04/2021 05:35, Chas G wrote:
> Maybe I'm missing something since I tend to delete email pretty fast,
> but I don't see where "Postmaster" has specified what has failed for him
> or her.

I think "postmaster" should be ignored. He's what has been called a
"troll" in the old Usenet days (I think the meaning has changed a bit
nowadays, but it's a still negative meaning, and that's what applies to
him). If someone would bother to find out what "gatworks.com" is, it
might help, but why waste the time?
Best regards,
Michael


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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Chas G
Maybe I'm missing something since I tend to delete email pretty fast, but I
don't see where "Postmaster" has specified what has failed for him or her.

Vague assertions that something is wrong don't help the devs or us. Crop
and rotate comprises a ton of functionalities.
Please get really specific.

1. What exactly is happening?
2. When?
3. What are you doing when the problem occurs?
4 What system are you using? PC, Linux, Mac?
5. What version of the OS are you using?
6. Other people don't seem to be having the same issues as you so the more
information you can provide the more quickly someone may be able to be
helpful. Just saying you have some unspecific problem over and over really
isn't going to get you anywhere.
7. Help people help you.


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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Postmaster

one day you will learn how to read.

1) patrick shanahan is in the business of making noise
2) At this moment, create and support does not exist. There is just no 
explanation as to why release after release has the same issues. Any one 
for QA. I dont see it. Do you? the rotate and clip issue(s)are in 3.4.1, 
3.4.1.1, as well in 3.6 . Why would anyone use darktable, if it behaves 
erratically, inconsistently, and just dies at any moment. Rotate and 
clip should be rock solid by now. xmp files should be rock solid by now. 
the 500 or so issues should be eliminated. Then again, see #1 .


anyway, my orig question is anyone working on the rotate and clip issues?

On 4/12/21 8:44 PM, darkta...@911networks.com wrote:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 18:00:48 -0400
Postmaster  wrote:


Is there some reason why you are making so much noise? Is this how
u do business on the internet? go do your own research.


1. This is not a business.
2. It's a group of volunteers that create and support darktable in
their spare time.



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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread darktable
On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 18:00:48 -0400
Postmaster  wrote:

> Is there some reason why you are making so much noise? Is this how
> u do business on the internet? go do your own research.

1. This is not a business. 
2. It's a group of volunteers that create and support darktable in
their spare time.

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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Terry Pinfold
crop and rotate works fine for me. What problems are you having?

On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 at 04:30, patrick shanahan  wrote:

> * Postmaster  [04-12-21 13:31]:
> > hen u do know its written up in the darktable/issues
> >
> > On 4/12/21 11:07 AM, Pascal Obry wrote:
> > > Le lundi 12 avril 2021 à 09:57 -0400, Postmaster a écrit :
> > > > ..
> > > > So is anyone fixing/repairing the issues with Crop & Rotate?
> > >
> > > No hello, no signature, no name, just a dry question :(
> > >
> > > Not even a little hint about what is broken
> > >
> > > Do you know that this is a community project ?
>
> can you not even bother to cite the issue #?
>
>
>
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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Postmaster




On 4/12/21 5:54 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Postmaster  [04-12-21 17:48]:



On 4/12/21 2:30 PM, patrick shanahan wrote:



can you not even bother to cite the issue #?




you may begin your research from this website

https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/
i am just not able to do your homework for you.


not able to do my homework???  you aren't doing *anything* for me and you
also are not doing anything for yourself.


Is there some reason why you are making so much noise? Is this how u do 
business on the internet?

go do your own research.

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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread paka
* Postmaster  [04-12-21 17:48]:
>
> > On 4/12/21 2:30 PM, patrick shanahan wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > can you not even bother to cite the issue #?
> > >
> >
> you may begin your research from this website
>
> https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/
> i am just not able to do your homework for you.

not able to do my homework???  you aren't doing *anything* for me and you
also are not doing anything for yourself.



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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Postmaster  [04-12-21 17:48]:
> 
> > On 4/12/21 2:30 PM, patrick shanahan wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > can you not even bother to cite the issue #?
> > > 
> > 
> you may begin your research from this website
> 
> https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/
> i am just not able to do your homework for you.

not able to do my homework???  you aren't doing *anything* for me and you
also are not doing anything for yourself.


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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Postmaster




On 4/12/21 2:30 PM, patrick shanahan wrote:



can you not even bother to cite the issue #?




you may begin your research from this website

https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/
i am just not able to do your homework for you.


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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread patrick shanahan
* Postmaster  [04-12-21 13:31]:
> hen u do know its written up in the darktable/issues
>
> On 4/12/21 11:07 AM, Pascal Obry wrote:
> > Le lundi 12 avril 2021 à 09:57 -0400, Postmaster a écrit :
> > > ..
> > > So is anyone fixing/repairing the issues with Crop & Rotate?
> >
> > No hello, no signature, no name, just a dry question :(
> >
> > Not even a little hint about what is broken
> >
> > Do you know that this is a community project ?

can you not even bother to cite the issue #?



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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Postmaster

hen u do know its written up in the darktable/issues

On 4/12/21 11:07 AM, Pascal Obry wrote:

Le lundi 12 avril 2021 à 09:57 -0400, Postmaster a écrit :

..
So is anyone fixing/repairing the issues with Crop & Rotate?


No hello, no signature, no name, just a dry question :(

Not even a little hint about what is broken

Do you know that this is a community project ?



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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Pascal Obry
Le lundi 12 avril 2021 à 09:57 -0400, Postmaster a écrit :
> ..
> So is anyone fixing/repairing the issues with Crop & Rotate?

No hello, no signature, no name, just a dry question :(

Not even a little hint about what is broken

Do you know that this is a community project ?

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Re: [darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Postmaster




On 4/12/21 8:10 AM, Pascal Obry wrote:


Hello,

We have been discussion the plan for dt 3.6, here it is:

- release- T0: July 3rd
- code freeze- T0-10 : June 23rd - start create binaries
- string freeze  - T0-12 : June 11th - start translation
- feature freeze - T0-30 : June 1st  - only code fix
- safe mode  - T0-45 : mid-May   - only safe simple code

So if you are cooking something to be merged be sure to propose it
before June especially if this needs some days before to review.

I also take the opportunity to remind all translators that it is
possible (and advised) to keep the translation up-to-date as there is
many strings change. The procedure to do that simply using the up-to-
date darktable.pot is documented here:

https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/wiki/Translations

Regards,



So is anyone fixing/repairing the issues with Crop & Rotate?

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[darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Pascal Obry


Hello,

We have been discussion the plan for dt 3.6, here it is:

- release- T0: July 3rd
- code freeze- T0-10 : June 23rd - start create binaries
- string freeze  - T0-12 : June 11th - start translation
- feature freeze - T0-30 : June 1st  - only code fix
- safe mode  - T0-45 : mid-May   - only safe simple code

So if you are cooking something to be merged be sure to propose it
before June especially if this needs some days before to review.

I also take the opportunity to remind all translators that it is
possible (and advised) to keep the translation up-to-date as there is
many strings change. The procedure to do that simply using the up-to-
date darktable.pot is documented here:

https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/wiki/Translations

Regards,

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[darktable-user] Plan for dt 3.6

2021-04-12 Thread Pascal Obry


Hello,

We have been discussion the plan for dt 3.6, here it is:

- release- T0: July 3rd
- code freeze- T0-10 : June 23rd - start create binaries
- string freeze  - T0-12 : June 11th - start translation
- feature freeze - T0-30 : June 1st  - only code fix
- safe mode  - T0-45 : mid-May   - only safe simple code

So if you are cooking something to be merged be sure to propose it
before June especially if this needs some days before to review.

I also take the opportunity to remind all translators that it is
possible (and advised) to keep the translation up-to-date as there is
many strings change. The procedure to do that simply using the up-to-
date darktable.pot is documented here:

https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/wiki/Translations

Regards,

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