Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
Hey Guys, Do you think it will help if we spoke to the top brass at BMTC about releasing the data? -Arvind ~ iPhone - A Vegan designed Mobile device. On 27-Feb-2014, at 3:48, Ankur Nagar ankur.na...@gmail.com wrote: -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
Super interesting thread - Satya, wanted to check, why this may not be anytime soon? On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:35:28 AM UTC-5, satyaakam wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:03 PM, srinivas kodali iota@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Thejesh, Do you think is there any chance to get transit agencies open there datasets across india through open data portal (http://data.gov.in/) ? No not in near future. -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | fossacademy.org -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
Thejesh, Do you think is there any chance to get transit agencies open there datasets across india through open data portal (http://data.gov.in/) ? On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: We can crowdsource. Let me think about it. BTW now we have timings https://github.com/openbangalore/bmtc/blob/master/data/timings_2014.csv Download https://github.com/openbangalore/bmtc/raw/master/data/timings_2014.csv I will update OpenBangalore. Later Thej -- Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:39 PM, inosaint kennethmdeso...@gmail.comwrote: Like Suvajit pointed out, there are bus stops missing from the dataset. For example when I looked at Sajjad's map, I found that on Tumkur Road between Gorguntepalya and Jalahalli Cross, not a single bus stop was marked(I think there are atleast 3). Can we possibly have something like http://pincode.datameet.org/ to allow crowdsourcing to perhaps make up for the missing bus stops? On Monday, 17 February 2014 22:10:04 UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote: I scraped BMTC site today for details. Now I have all the routes and bustop info. New busstops (2200+ locations) with lat long is available at http://openbangalore.org/available-data/ By tomorrow, I will update route info too. If you are curious check the sqlite at https://github.com/openbangalore/bmtc/tree/master/data Thej -- Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:03 PM, srinivas kodali iota.kod...@gmail.comwrote: Thejesh, Do you think is there any chance to get transit agencies open there datasets across india through open data portal (http://data.gov.in/) ? No not in near future. -Satya Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/ | fossevents.in | fossacademy.org -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
Hi Sajjad, I propose to use Google API itself to extract some information. How is this violating G M terms of service ? But it is subject to test whether really we can scrape out good data from it or not. Regards, Suvajit On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:11:22 AM UTC+5:30, Sajjad Anwar wrote: Hey, On Feb 19, 2014 10:34 AM, Suvajit suvajit@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Good job Thej Sajjd on scraping BMTC stop route info from their website and presenting on OSM. But I am sure that if we count bus stations in Bangalore it will have 1000 stops more ( around 4000 in total ). So we need to find those missing ones. Google Map has better list of bus stations for Bangalore than BMTC. But unfortunately GMap does not provide API to get that information directly. I found a workaround where Google Local search provides bus stations in a given locality. So quite an amount on scrapping work can be done on Google Map itself to extract bus_stations. I will give try in spare time. Just a word of caution - this is against Google Maps / Search Terms of Service https://maps.google.com/help/terms_maps.html. Even if you scrape the data out we cannot use it in any meaningful way. On the live tracking point, BMTC already awarded a project last year to put tracking devices in all its fleet (6500+ buses). The project is expected to complete end of this year. In that case, if the system works well we can get the GPS logs of BMTC buses. This can help us both in live update and also accurate route and stop database building. Also BMTC has floated a tender for digitization of schedules. If this project is on, we can expect to get accurate bus stop, route and schedule information from BMTC. In fact, we can ask BMTC to publish their data in GTFS format which we can use to build services/solutions on top of it. Sajjad, What license are you asking about ? License to publish GTFS data ? Regards, Suvajit On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:51:30 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote: Is it live somewhere? -- Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Feb 18, 2014 8:27 PM, srinivas kodali iota@gmail.com wrote: I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement Expected Time of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore. Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera meer...@gmail.com wrote: If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus routes - we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-tools as objects. It can help general junta to access it easily. -Meera On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote: OSM allows gtfs tags - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard. I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do you know what license BMTC publishes this in? Cheers, Sajjad. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: We can. But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that. -- Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote: On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to publish this data in the GTFS format (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/) -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sajjad Anwar http://geohacker.in -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
Thejesh, They are yet to implement it in Bangalore, will take some 6 months i guess. The tender got rolled out in last March. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote: On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Suvajit suvajit.sengu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sajjad, I propose to use Google API itself to extract some information. How is this violating G M terms of service ? Check clause 2 here - https://maps.google.com/help/terms_maps.html But it is subject to test whether really we can scrape out good data from it or not. Regards, Suvajit On Wednesday, February 19, 2014 11:11:22 AM UTC+5:30, Sajjad Anwar wrote: Hey, On Feb 19, 2014 10:34 AM, Suvajit suvajit@gmail.com wrote: Good job Thej Sajjd on scraping BMTC stop route info from their website and presenting on OSM. But I am sure that if we count bus stations in Bangalore it will have 1000 stops more ( around 4000 in total ). So we need to find those missing ones. Google Map has better list of bus stations for Bangalore than BMTC. But unfortunately GMap does not provide API to get that information directly. I found a workaround where Google Local search provides bus stations in a given locality. So quite an amount on scrapping work can be done on Google Map itself to extract bus_stations. I will give try in spare time. Just a word of caution - this is against Google Maps / Search Terms of Service. Even if you scrape the data out we cannot use it in any meaningful way. On the live tracking point, BMTC already awarded a project last year to put tracking devices in all its fleet (6500+ buses). The project is expected to complete end of this year. In that case, if the system works well we can get the GPS logs of BMTC buses. This can help us both in live update and also accurate route and stop database building. Also BMTC has floated a tender for digitization of schedules. If this project is on, we can expect to get accurate bus stop, route and schedule information from BMTC. In fact, we can ask BMTC to publish their data in GTFS format which we can use to build services/solutions on top of it. Sajjad, What license are you asking about ? License to publish GTFS data ? Regards, Suvajit On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:51:30 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote: Is it live somewhere? -- Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Feb 18, 2014 8:27 PM, srinivas kodali iota@gmail.com wrote: I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement Expected Time of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore. Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera meer...@gmail.com wrote: If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus routes - we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-toolsas objects. It can help general junta to access it easily. -Meera On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote: OSM allows gtfs tags - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard. I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do you know what license BMTC publishes this in? Cheers, Sajjad. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: We can. But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that. -- Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote: On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to publish this data in the GTFS format (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/) -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sajjad Anwar http://geohacker.in -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
Yes. http://www.mybmtc.com/service/timings/gns/General%20Services check arrival and departure. I will scrape them next :) Thej -- Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:36 PM, srinivas kodali iota.kod...@gmail.comwrote: is there schedule data too somewhere on the site? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: Uploaded the routes info. Here it is http://openbangalore.org/available-data/ If you are a developer get sqlite For non developers: - routes - Gives route info - busstops - Bus stops info - routes-busstops - Has route to busstop linking Timing is something I am planning to extract next. May be in next few days I will update the routes(tables, csv) with bus timings. If you want to help me, here is the project https://github.com/openbangalore/bmtc/ For a long time we had demand for transport data. here it is at last. Go crazy. Let me know if you are using it anywhere, I will add it to http://openbangalore.org/usage-examples/ Also attached early print screen of heatmap of busstops in 2012 and 2014 @500mts radius. Thej -- Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Devdatta Tengshe devda...@tengshe.inwrote: Awesome! I had scrapped some data, but had left the project incomplete due to paucity of time. I'm eagerly waiting for the Routes. Regards, Devdatta On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:10:04 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote: I scraped BMTC site today for details. Now I have all the routes and bustop info. New busstops (2200+ locations) with lat long is available at http://openbangalore.org/available-data/ By tomorrow, I will update route info too. If you are curious check the sqlite at https://github.com/openbangalore/bmtc/tree/master/data Thej -- Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
I'm fixing tiny things as I come across on the app - http://geohacker.in/bmtc/ (larger circles, easy to click etc, responsive etc.) Thej, schedule would be fabulous. We could potentially build a simple app which takes in destinations and suggest routes. I don't have a lot of time, so if someone's got spare time, let me know. Prateek (copied) tells me that he'd be happy to help. Fork away! https://github.com/geohacker/bmtc Cheers, Sajjad. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: Yes. http://www.mybmtc.com/service/timings/gns/General%20Services check arrival and departure. I will scrape them next :) Thej -- Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 3:36 PM, srinivas kodali iota.kod...@gmail.comwrote: is there schedule data too somewhere on the site? On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: Uploaded the routes info. Here it is http://openbangalore.org/available-data/ If you are a developer get sqlite For non developers: - routes - Gives route info - busstops - Bus stops info - routes-busstops - Has route to busstop linking Timing is something I am planning to extract next. May be in next few days I will update the routes(tables, csv) with bus timings. If you want to help me, here is the project https://github.com/openbangalore/bmtc/ For a long time we had demand for transport data. here it is at last. Go crazy. Let me know if you are using it anywhere, I will add it to http://openbangalore.org/usage-examples/ Also attached early print screen of heatmap of busstops in 2012 and 2014 @500mts radius. Thej -- Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Devdatta Tengshe devda...@tengshe.inwrote: Awesome! I had scrapped some data, but had left the project incomplete due to paucity of time. I'm eagerly waiting for the Routes. Regards, Devdatta On Monday, February 17, 2014 10:10:04 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote: I scraped BMTC site today for details. Now I have all the routes and bustop info. New busstops (2200+ locations) with lat long is available at http://openbangalore.org/available-data/ By tomorrow, I will update route info too. If you are curious check the sqlite at https://github.com/openbangalore/bmtc/tree/master/data Thej -- Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sajjad Anwar http://geohacker.in http://sajjad.in/ -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to publish this data in the GTFS format (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/) -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
OSM allows gtfs tags - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard. I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do you know what license BMTC publishes this in? Cheers, Sajjad. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: We can. But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that. -- Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote: On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to publish this data in the GTFS format (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/) -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sajjad Anwar http://geohacker.in -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement Expected Time of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore. Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera meerak...@gmail.com wrote: If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus routes - we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-tools as objects. It can help general junta to access it easily. -Meera On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote: OSM allows gtfs tags - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard. I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do you know what license BMTC publishes this in? Cheers, Sajjad. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: We can. But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that. -- Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote: On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to publish this data in the GTFS format (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/) -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sajjad Anwar http://geohacker.in -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
Is it live somewhere? -- Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Feb 18, 2014 8:27 PM, srinivas kodali iota.kod...@gmail.com wrote: I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement Expected Time of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore. Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera meerak...@gmail.com wrote: If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus routes - we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-tools as objects. It can help general junta to access it easily. -Meera On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote: OSM allows gtfs tags - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard. I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do you know what license BMTC publishes this in? Cheers, Sajjad. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: We can. But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that. -- Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote: On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to publish this data in the GTFS format (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/) -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sajjad Anwar http://geohacker.in -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
Good job Thej Sajjd on scraping BMTC stop route info from their website and presenting on OSM. But I am sure that if we count bus stations in Bangalore it will have 1000 stops more ( around 4000 in total ). So we need to find those missing ones. Google Map has better list of bus stations for Bangalore than BMTC. But unfortunately GMap does not provide API to get that information directly. I found a workaround where Google Local search provides bus stations in a given locality. So quite an amount on scrapping work can be done on Google Map itself to extract bus_stations. I will give try in spare time. On the live tracking point, BMTC already awarded a project last year to put tracking devices in all its fleet (6500+ buses). The project is expected to complete end of this year. In that case, if the system works well we can get the GPS logs of BMTC buses. This can help us both in live update and also accurate route and stop database building. Also BMTC has floated a tender for digitization of schedules. If this project is on, we can expect to get accurate bus stop, route and schedule information from BMTC. In fact, we can ask BMTC to publish their data in GTFS format which we can use to build services/solutions on top of it. Sajjad, What license are you asking about ? License to publish GTFS data ? Regards, Suvajit On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:51:30 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote: Is it live somewhere? -- Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Feb 18, 2014 8:27 PM, srinivas kodali iota@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement Expected Time of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore. Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera meer...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus routes - we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-tools as objects. It can help general junta to access it easily. -Meera On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.injavascript: wrote: OSM allows gtfs tags - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard. I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do you know what license BMTC publishes this in? Cheers, Sajjad. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.comjavascript: wrote: We can. But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that. -- Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in javascript: wrote: On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to publish this data in the GTFS format (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/) -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sajjad Anwar http://geohacker.in -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list
Re: [datameet] Re: 2200+ BMTC busstop locations
Hey, On Feb 19, 2014 10:34 AM, Suvajit suvajit.sengu...@gmail.com wrote: Good job Thej Sajjd on scraping BMTC stop route info from their website and presenting on OSM. But I am sure that if we count bus stations in Bangalore it will have 1000 stops more ( around 4000 in total ). So we need to find those missing ones. Google Map has better list of bus stations for Bangalore than BMTC. But unfortunately GMap does not provide API to get that information directly. I found a workaround where Google Local search provides bus stations in a given locality. So quite an amount on scrapping work can be done on Google Map itself to extract bus_stations. I will give try in spare time. Just a word of caution - this is against Google Maps / Search Terms of Service https://maps.google.com/help/terms_maps.html. Even if you scrape the data out we cannot use it in any meaningful way. On the live tracking point, BMTC already awarded a project last year to put tracking devices in all its fleet (6500+ buses). The project is expected to complete end of this year. In that case, if the system works well we can get the GPS logs of BMTC buses. This can help us both in live update and also accurate route and stop database building. Also BMTC has floated a tender for digitization of schedules. If this project is on, we can expect to get accurate bus stop, route and schedule information from BMTC. In fact, we can ask BMTC to publish their data in GTFS format which we can use to build services/solutions on top of it. Sajjad, What license are you asking about ? License to publish GTFS data ? Regards, Suvajit On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 8:51:30 PM UTC+5:30, Thejesh GN wrote: Is it live somewhere? -- Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Feb 18, 2014 8:27 PM, srinivas kodali iota@gmail.com wrote: I was going through the BMTC technical document to implement Expected Time of Arrival (ETA) for Buses in Bangalore. Scrapping real-time data would be more fun. if they won`t give API`s On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Meera meer...@gmail.com wrote: If anybody want to develop any public data tools/widgets like bus routes - we can embed it on bangalore.citizenmatters.in/data-tools as objects. It can help general junta to access it easily. -Meera On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote: OSM allows gtfs tags - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/General_Transit_Feed_Specification Since GTFS is a widely accepted standard. I'm asking some friends at OSM about uploading the bus stop data to the repository. Since we scraped it there might be a challenge. Do you know what license BMTC publishes this in? Cheers, Sajjad. On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote: We can. But if there is OSM version of the same, i will prefer that. -- Thejesh GN ⏚ ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್ http://thejeshgn.com GPG ID : 0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0 On Feb 18, 2014 5:27 PM, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote: On a second thought and while talking people, it might make sense to publish this data in the GTFS format (https://developers.google.com/transit/gtfs/) -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sajjad Anwar http://geohacker.in -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- For more details about this list http://datameet.org/discussions/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups datameet group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to datameet+u...@googlegroups.com. For more
