[Dbix-class] Oracle Built-In Functions

2010-08-04 Thread Duncan Garland
Hi,

I'm struggling to persuade DBIx::Class to use simple Oracle built-ins such as 
SYSDATE, DECODE and NVL.

Eg UPDATE table1 SET date_updated = SYSDATE, destination = NVL( $destination, 
'home' ) WHERE ... ;

$rs-date_updated( 'SYSDATE' );

Doesn't work, nor can any variation on a theme that I can think of.

I'm sure it must be possible and I'm sure it must be in the docs, but I can't 
find it.

Can anybody help?

Regards

Duncan
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Re: [Dbix-class] Oracle Built-In Functions

2010-08-04 Thread Андрей Костенко
$rs-date_updated( \‘SYSDATE’ );

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Duncan Garland
duncan.garl...@motortrak.com wrote:
 Hi,



 I’m struggling to persuade DBIx::Class to use simple Oracle built-ins such
 as SYSDATE, DECODE and NVL.



 Eg UPDATE table1 SET date_updated = SYSDATE, destination = NVL(
 $destination, ‘home’ ) WHERE ... ;



 $rs-date_updated( ‘SYSDATE’ );



 Doesn’t work, nor can any variation on a theme that I can think of.



 I’m sure it must be possible and I’m sure it must be in the docs, but I
 can’t find it.



 Can anybody help?



 Regards



 Duncan

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Re: [Dbix-class] DBIx::Class::Tree::Fast

2010-08-04 Thread vdg
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Ian dbix-cl...@iandocherty.com wrote:

 Nice one v. Always good to see different implementations. My first
 impressions below.

 As the author of DBIx::Class::Tree::NestedSet I tried to ensure that it
 contained the same method names where possible as other similar modules
 (such as DBIx::Class::Tree::AjacencyList).


Well, I agree with this general goal. :-)

I note you use the term 'ascendants' which is not a real word and so would
 be confusing. Is this the same as 'ancestors'? If so then it would be best
 to use ancestors since that is a word know by other people and it keeps it
 consistent with other similar modules.


Are you sure? I  found ascendant in Webster. Though i'm not a native English
speaker, I was thinking it was more coherent to oppose with descendant. But
it would be easy to fix that anyway.


 I have not had the chance to read the article or the code in detail, but
 does this method allow the children to be ordered?


No it doesn't because i wanted to make encoding non volatible when inserting
or removing a child. Not everyone needs position, so not tracking position
can be a
performance gain in that case.

But I think i could make a subcomponent with a distinct column to encode
position and add these methods below...


 If so then you should also provide methods
 left_siblings
 right_siblings
 left_sibling
 right_sibling
 leftmost_sibling
 rightmost_sibling
 etc. (see DBIx::Class::Tree::NestedSet for a full list)

 Think about people who may want to port from one tree implementation to
 another. Having the same methods makes it much easier for someone to do this
 if they find they don't have exactly the right algorithm.

 Regards
 Ian




 On 03/08/2010 17:26, vdg wrote:

 Hello all,

 I have implemented a new dbic component to manage trees.

 It's an alternative method to DBIx::Class::Tree::AdjacencyList and
 DBIx::Class::Tree::NestedSet.

 Basically it's the implementation of the general method describe in this
 paper :

 http://arxiv.org/pdf/cs.DB/0402051

 with this model, you keep the advantage of NestedSet to query
 descendants without difficulties querying ancestors.
 Plus the encoding is not volatile (no need to recalculate half of the
 tree encoding after an insert) and there is
 a direct correspondence between the materialized path of a node and its
 encoding. The model is described in the paper
 are more scalable, but i've yet to make some tests to get an idea how
 deep you can build down in a tree.

 This implementation don't use at all the primary key of the table (if
 any) and don't try to order children.
 Ordered tree could be a sub component i guess.

 The only trade-off is that i use 7 (!) columns to do the encoding.

 github : http://github.com/vdg/DBIx-Class-Tree-Fast


 Comments and ideas very welcome off course.

 v.



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RE: [Dbix-class] Oracle Built-In Functions

2010-08-04 Thread Duncan Garland
Hi Rob,

Doing it in perl is a work-around not a solution. There are lots of built-in 
function which may need to be used.

However, you and Andrey seem to be on the right lines with the reference. 
\'SYSDATE' works.

The following also works:

$v[0]-update( { date_to = \'DECODE( \'apples\', \'pears\', \'grapes\', NVL( 
SYSDATE, SYSDATE ) )', left_by = $c-user-get( 'id' ) } );

Although SYSDATE gets truncated for some reason. It's probably OK for more 
sensible examples.

Thanks

Duncan

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From: Rob Kinyon [mailto:rob.kin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 04 August 2010 13:39
To: DBIx::Class user and developer list
Subject: Re: [Dbix-class] Oracle Built-In Functions

2010/8/4 Андрей Костенко and...@kostenko.name:
 $rs-date_updated( \‘SYSDATE’ );

 On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Duncan Garland
 duncan.garl...@motortrak.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I’m struggling to persuade DBIx::Class to use simple Oracle built-ins such
 as SYSDATE, DECODE and NVL.

 Eg UPDATE table1 SET date_updated = SYSDATE, destination = NVL(
 $destination, ‘home’ ) WHERE ... ;

 $rs-date_updated( ‘SYSDATE’ );

$schema-resultset('table1')-search({
...
})-update({
date_updated = \'SYSDATE',
destination = $destination // 'home', # Assumes Perl 5.10 or higher
});

No reason to call NVL when you're coming from Perl.

Rob

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Re: [Dbix-class] missing 'many-to-many' relationship

2010-08-04 Thread fREW Schmidt
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Steve st...@matsch.com wrote:

 Hi all,

  I am bewildered as to why my 'many_to_many' relationship is being
 ignored.
 I get an error when trying to use the relationship because it 'does not
 exist',
 and clearly it doesn't.  WHY?
 My result classes are 'User.pm', 'Role.pm', and 'UserRole.pm'.
 I'm using the DBIC::Loader to generate the 'has_many', and 'belongs_to'
 relationships, which leaves me to create the 'many_to_many' relationship
 manually.
 ...



   include the error message please.

  From memory: No such relationship roles in DCO::Schema::Result::User


So to be clear, you are saying that you added the roles many to many in user
and you do $user-roles and get that error?

I'm guessing you did something like $user-related_resultset('roles'), which
wouldn't work since technically m2m isn't a relationship.

I can't really say more though without seeing actual code and actual errors.


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Re: [Dbix-class] DBIx::Class::Tree::Fast

2010-08-04 Thread fREW Schmidt

 I note you use the term 'ascendants' which is not a real word and so would
 be confusing. Is this the same as 'ancestors'? If so then it would be best
 to use ancestors since that is a word know by other people and it keeps it
 consistent with other similar modules.


 Are you sure? I  found ascendant in Webster. Though i'm not a native
 English speaker, I was thinking it was more coherent to oppose with
 descendant. But it would be easy to fix that anyway.


For what it's worth I *am* a native English speaker and I think that
ancestors would be a lot more comprehensible.  I don't think I've ever heard
the word ascendants used...

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Re: [Dbix-class] missing 'many-to-many' relationship

2010-08-04 Thread Steve


On 8/4/2010 10:46 AM, fREW Schmidt wrote:



On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Steve st...@matsch.com 
mailto:st...@matsch.com wrote:


Hi all,

I am bewildered as to why my 'many_to_many' relationship
is being ignored.
I get an error when trying to use the relationship because
it 'does not
exist',
and clearly it doesn't.  WHY?
My result classes are 'User.pm', 'Role.pm', and 'UserRole.pm'.
I'm using the DBIC::Loader to generate the 'has_many', and
'belongs_to'
relationships, which leaves me to create the
'many_to_many' relationship
manually.
...


 include the error message please.

From memory: No such relationship roles in DCO::Schema::Result::User


So to be clear, you are saying that you added the roles many to many 
in user and you do $user-roles and get that error?


I'm guessing you did something like $user-related_resultset('roles'), 
which wouldn't work since technically m2m isn't a relationship.


That's exactly what I'm doing!  Since I had to get something working I 
took a couple of extra steps,
and got the functionality I was looking for, but I find myself wondering 
what the benefit of having a

'many_to_many' pseudo-relationship is?

Thank you for this explanation, it will keep me sane! :)
I can't really say more though without seeing actual code and actual 
errors.


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Re: [Dbix-class] DBIx::Class::Tree::Fast

2010-08-04 Thread Ashley Pond V
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:50 AM, fREW Schmidt fri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I note you use the term 'ascendants' which is not a real word and so would
 be confusing. Is this the same as 'ancestors'? If so then it would be best
 to use ancestors since that is a word know by other people and it keeps it
 consistent with other similar modules.

 Are you sure? I  found ascendant in Webster. Though i'm not a native
 English speaker, I was thinking it was more coherent to oppose with
 descendant. But it would be easy to fix that anyway.

It is a real word and non-native English speakers sometimes understand
English definitions better than the native speakers who learned them
via context and with subjective connotations. Non-native speakers make
fewer assumptions. :)

While ancestor is the commonly used word for this purpose ascendant
seems a fine choice. Though ancestor isn't foolish here it does seem a
hobgoblin if it blocks the obvious antonym of descendant from use.
Also, it's Perl so we could have both as synonyms.

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Re: [Dbix-class] DBIx::Class::Tree::Fast

2010-08-04 Thread Rob Kinyon
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:10, Ashley Pond V a...@sedition.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 7:50 AM, fREW Schmidt fri...@gmail.com wrote:
 I note you use the term 'ascendants' which is not a real word and so would
 be confusing. Is this the same as 'ancestors'? If so then it would be best
 to use ancestors since that is a word know by other people and it keeps it
 consistent with other similar modules.

 Are you sure? I  found ascendant in Webster. Though i'm not a native
 English speaker, I was thinking it was more coherent to oppose with
 descendant. But it would be easy to fix that anyway.

 It is a real word and non-native English speakers sometimes understand
 English definitions better than the native speakers who learned them
 via context and with subjective connotations. Non-native speakers make
 fewer assumptions. :)

 While ancestor is the commonly used word for this purpose ascendant
 seems a fine choice. Though ancestor isn't foolish here it does seem a
 hobgoblin if it blocks the obvious antonym of descendant from use.
 Also, it's Perl so we could have both as synonyms.

Except ascendant means rising. ancestor and descendant are the
proper terms for tree-walking. ascendant is not the right term.

Rob

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Re: [Dbix-class] DBIx::Class::Tree::Fast

2010-08-04 Thread Len Jaffe
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Rob Kinyon rob.kin...@gmail.com wrote:


 Except ascendant means rising. ancestor and descendant are the
 proper terms for tree-walking. ascendant is not the right term.


Antecedant anybody?


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Re: [Dbix-class] DBIx::Class::Tree::Fast

2010-08-04 Thread Ram Dobson
ascendant DOES also mean ancestor. but that's a much less used meaning 
in english... rising is what people think ascendant means.


i wasn't aware of the second definition until i looked at the dictionary 
myself...


so ascendant is probably not the clearest choice. people use ancestor a 
million times more for this purpose.


On 8/4/2010 12:43 PM, Len Jaffe wrote:



On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Rob Kinyon rob.kin...@gmail.com
mailto:rob.kin...@gmail.com wrote:


Except ascendant means rising. ancestor and descendant are the
proper terms for tree-walking. ascendant is not the right term.


Antecedant anybody?


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Re: [Dbix-class] missing 'many-to-many' relationship

2010-08-04 Thread fREW Schmidt
 So to be clear, you are saying that you added the roles many to many in
 user and you do $user-roles and get that error?

 I'm guessing you did something like $user-related_resultset('roles'),
 which wouldn't work since technically m2m isn't a relationship.

  That's exactly what I'm doing!  Since I had to get something working I
 took a couple of extra steps,
 and got the functionality I was looking for, but I find myself wondering
 what the benefit of having a
 'many_to_many' pseudo-relationship is?

 Thank you for this explanation, it will keep me sane! :)


Yeah, you have to do the extra steps.  For people watching along the reason
comes from DBIx::Class::Relationship:

many_to_many is not strictly a relationship in its own right. Instead, it is
 a bridge between two resultsets which provide the same kind of convenience
 accessors as true relationships provide. Although the accessor will return a
 resultset or collection of objects just like has_many does, you cannot call
 related_resultset and similar methods which operate on true relationships.


as for *why* this is done this way, I couldn't say.

Anyone wanna chime in on why m2m isn't a real rel?

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Re: [Dbix-class] missing 'many-to-many' relationship

2010-08-04 Thread Len Jaffe
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 1:04 PM, fREW Schmidt fri...@gmail.com wrote:


 Anyone wanna chime in on why m2m isn't a real rel?


Because an m2m relationship is an model of two one-to-many relationships
which share a table.

I expect that related_resultset() could be made to handle m2m relationships
with a little elbow grease to help it traverse the second relation.

Len.


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Re: [Dbix-class] DBIx::Class::Tree::Fast

2010-08-04 Thread Ian

On 04/08/2010 17:43, Len Jaffe wrote:



On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Rob Kinyon rob.kin...@gmail.com
mailto:rob.kin...@gmail.com wrote:


Except ascendant means rising. ancestor and descendant are the
proper terms for tree-walking. ascendant is not the right term.


Antecedant anybody?


Is there a Precedent for that? ;)

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Re: [Dbix-class] Oracle Built-In Functions

2010-08-04 Thread Dan Horne
On 4 August 2010 22:25, Duncan Garland duncan.garl...@motortrak.com wrote:

  Hi,



 I’m struggling to persuade DBIx::Class to use simple Oracle built-ins such
 as SYSDATE, DECODE and NVL.



 Eg UPDATE table1 SET date_updated = SYSDATE, destination = NVL(
 $destination, ‘home’ ) WHERE ... ;



 $rs-date_updated( ‘SYSDATE’ );



 Doesn’t work, nor can any variation on a theme that I can think of.



 I’m sure it must be possible and I’m sure it must be in the docs, but I
 can’t find it.



 Can anybody help?



 Regards



 Duncan


I do most of my development against Oracle, although I try to make my code
DB generic where possible. If you use a DateTime object rather than sysdate,
DBIC will deflate it for you. Of course, creating the new object is slower
than simply using sysdate, so I guess it depends how speed sensitive your
app is...
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[Dbix-class] Improved resultset iterators

2010-08-04 Thread Toby Corkindale

Hi,
I posted this to the list in May, just looking for confirmation that the 
API I had in mind was correct, before implementing it.
(Since my first, implemented suggestion had been shot down, and I'd 
rather nail the spec down before coding it again.)


No response at the time, but I thought I'd try again now.
Cheers! See below for background topic and then my comments.

On 07/05/10 06:31, Matt S Trout wrote:

On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 01:08:52PM +1000, Toby Corkindale wrote:

On 22/04/10 19:00, Peter Rabbitson wrote:

Toby Corkindale wrote:

Hey all,
Wouldn't it be nice if the ResultSet iterators were a bit more advanced?

I would love it if the iterator built into DBIx::Class supported some
more functional programming style methods.


[snip examples]


The implicit iterators built into DBIC resultsets were a blatant design
mistake, and therefore they will not be extended any longer (at least not
in core). You are however welcome to discuss a design for a ResultSet
component, or even contribute to the DBIx::Class::Helpers family of
modules.


I attach a ResultSet Component that adds the features I was discussing.

Would this be appropriate to release as a mini CPAN module or would you
like to incorporate it into something else?


I would like you to never release that, and erase all copies from your hard
disk.

As noted, they are a design mistake. One you are perpetuating.

If you want to do something useful, write a resultset component that
extracts the iterator work out into a separate object and proxies next,
first and reset to a built-in iterator.


Oh, sorry, I thought I was following Peter's suggestion about making a
Helper component.

OK, let's talk about your suggestion a little more. How does this sound:

ResultSet gains an iter/iterator method, which returns a new iterator.

ResultSet gains a, uh, _current_iterator() object property, used for
keeping the next/first/reset methods backwards compatible.

Calling -next or -first fetches $self-_current_iterator and then
calls next/first upon it. (If $self-current_iterator isn't set, it
assigns it the value of $self-iter, then calls next/first)

Calling -reset reassigns $self-iter to $self-_current_iterator.

so, uh:
sub reset { $_[0]-_current_iter($_[0]-iter) }
sub next  {
  my $self = shift;
  unless ($self-_current_iter) { $self-_current_iter($self-iter) };
  return $self-_current_iter-next;
} # ditto for first()
sub iter {
  return DBIC::RS::Iterator-new(resultset = shift);
}


Regarding the Iterator itself..
Do you think it should setup a ResultSet-cursor() in order to handle
the iterations, or should it effectively just call ResultSet-all and
store that in a local array?



Then you cold implement things like foreach as

$self-iter-each(...

or similar. Which would be far cleaner.





Also, I wondered at which point it is best to call $resultset-reset..
At the start, or end, or both, of all the methods?


Any design that requires -reset to be called is perpetuating the same
mistake as perl's each() builtin makes and should be taken out and shot.


Hey, I'm just proxying a lot of calls to -next in the code I
submitted.. not my fault the underlying system required -reset, is it? :)


Cheers,
Toby

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