Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
There's a nice script called Bible-fetch: https://github.com/covode/bible-fetch Which scrapes Biblegateway. This gives access to many versions, and by default without the verse numbers, which is good for me because I find them annoying and takes away from the text of the Bible. It's a Python script, so requires Python and a few dependencies, like Beautifulsoup. Devin Prater r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 12:12 PM David Hoff Jr wrote: > I believe there is a bit of misunderstanding here. A Swedish person > trying to use the English language has used the word "fairy" incorrectly. > His intent was correct, but his word was not. > > It would be nice if Linux had a fully functional Bible program which was > accessible with Orca on the Linux desktop. It does have a console tool > such as Diatheke which with personalized scripting can be used for > reading and searching the scripture, but that takes some scripting work. > > Windows have a few Bible programs, a few are reasonably accessible, which > I have used in the past. I took the time to copy every chapter in the > Bible and save them to a text file which I now use daily for reading. > These are very useful in Linux, but not the same as a program to use for > reading and research. > > God has provided, we just have to find out how to use the resources he > provides. > -- > > > >
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
I strongly recommend to anyone interested in religions to read "Et l'homme créa les dieux" by Pascal Boyer. Attention: as far as I know, this book is only available in French. I am 100% agnostic, I accept that others have religious beliefs as long as they do not claim that these beliefs are knowledge and do not try to share them with me and even less to impose them on me. Cheers, Didier Le 18/11/2021 à 19:12, David Hoff Jr a écrit : I believe there is a bit of misunderstanding here. A Swedish person trying to use the English language has used the word "fairy" incorrectly. His intent was correct, but his word was not. It would be nice if Linux had a fully functional Bible program which was accessible with Orca on the Linux desktop. It does have a console tool such as Diatheke which with personalized scripting can be used for reading and searching the scripture, but that takes some scripting work. Windows have a few Bible programs, a few are reasonably accessible, which I have used in the past. I took the time to copy every chapter in the Bible and save them to a text file which I now use daily for reading. These are very useful in Linux, but not the same as a program to use for reading and research. God has provided, we just have to find out how to use the resources he provides. OpenPGP_0xD50202EF60C03EEA.asc Description: OpenPGP public key OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
I believe there is a bit of misunderstanding here. A Swedish person trying to use the English language has used the word "fairy" incorrectly. His intent was correct, but his word was not. It would be nice if Linux had a fully functional Bible program which was accessible with Orca on the Linux desktop. It does have a console tool such as Diatheke which with personalized scripting can be used for reading and searching the scripture, but that takes some scripting work. Windows have a few Bible programs, a few are reasonably accessible, which I have used in the past. I took the time to copy every chapter in the Bible and save them to a text file which I now use daily for reading. These are very useful in Linux, but not the same as a program to use for reading and research. God has provided, we just have to find out how to use the resources he provides. --
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
Being a software developer myself, I have taken a closer look at BibleTime, and have a first draft implementation to read out selected text. With that first draft, the user currently has to select the text using the mouse first, which is certainly not ideal, but it should be possible to adapt that. To do so, I think it would be helpful to start with a clearly defined use case to support in a first step (and possibly improve other areas later). How would you want to tell the Bible program what passage to read? I can come up with some potential ideas, but there are certainly more: First scenario: Read a specific passage. Potential steps for the user: 1) The user enters a specific text passage, e.g. "Matthew 6:25-34" 2) That passage is selected/highlighted in the software. 3) The user presses a button or selects a context menu entry and the selected passage is read out. Second scenario: Speech starts at a specific verse until the user stops it. Potential steps for the user: 1) The users enters (or selects) a specific verse, e.g. "Matthew 6:25" 2) The user presses a button or selects a context menu entry and the Bible program starts reading from that verse and goes on 3) At some point, the user presses a button (or takes some other action) to stop this. Is any of those what you want to do? Or can you describe in more detail how you would like to interact with the software? In case you are (or somebody else is) interested in having better accessibility in BibleTime, I can offer my help in discussing potential ways to achieve that with BibleTime developers. I can't make any promises, though, and it will certainly take a while and need input on what is needed from a user perspective. (Besides implementing the text-to-speech part, there are certainly more things to consider on how the user can interact with the software, but in a quick test with the Orca screen reader, it was e.g. already possible to navigate (using the Tab key) to the place where the user can enter a passage and Orca read out what buttons etc. were currently focused, so some "basic level of accessibility" is already there and it should be reasonably possible to address the things that are still missing one after the other.) BibleTime (like Xiphos) uses the SWORD library/API and thus supports the various Bible translations offered by the SWORD project: https://www.crosswire.org/sword/index.jsp On 17/11/2021 17.46, Ttl wrote: I want the program to reed the text blessings Emanuel Skickat från min iPhone 17 nov. 2021 kl. 09:23 skrev Michael Weghorn : Hi, I'm Michael from Germany. While I'm very interested in accessibility, I don't have any special requirements for accessibility myself. I'm occasionally using Xiphos or Bibletime on Debian. Both weren't fully accessible when I did a quick test with the Orca screen reader. What are the use cases you want the Bible program to support? For example, there is already a request for Bibletime to read out selectable portions of the Bible ( https://github.com/bibletime/bibletime/issues/5 ). If there are specific other use cases or problems you're running into, I'd suggest to ask for those in the issue trackers of the corresponding programs, so the developers can consider adding those features. On 13/11/2021 19.16, David Hoff Jr wrote: I use Debian and Slint. I'm in California in the USA. Have used Diatheke in the console in Debian in the past, but unable to find any accessible Bible program for the GUI Desktop. Also use Windows in my work and personal use. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
bible-kjv is so very fast it's worth having. On the modern side a development team has succeeded in getting Verbum working under WINE. It's excellent. Best, David On Wed, Nov 17, 2021, 12:07 Geoff Shang wrote: > On Wed, 17 Nov 2021, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > It looks like bible-kjv ought to be a console accessible bible > > application. If not, bible-kjv- > > text includes just the text of that version of the bible. > > bible-kjv worked fine on the occasions that I've needed it. > > Doing an apt-cache search on the word "bible" turned up a number of things > that I've not used but might be worth exploring. > > Of course, the King James version of the Bible is an old translation and > might not be to everyone's taste. I'm guessing however that there might > be copyright issues in relation to some newer translations. > > HTH, > Geoff. > >
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
God bless you ! ons 17 nov. 2021 kl. 18:07 skrev Geoff Shang : > On Wed, 17 Nov 2021, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > It looks like bible-kjv ought to be a console accessible bible > > application. If not, bible-kjv- > > text includes just the text of that version of the bible. > > bible-kjv worked fine on the occasions that I've needed it. > > Doing an apt-cache search on the word "bible" turned up a number of things > that I've not used but might be worth exploring. > > Of course, the King James version of the Bible is an old translation and > might not be to everyone's taste. I'm guessing however that there might > be copyright issues in relation to some newer translations. > > HTH, > Geoff. > >
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021, Sam Hartman wrote: It looks like bible-kjv ought to be a console accessible bible application. If not, bible-kjv- text includes just the text of that version of the bible. bible-kjv worked fine on the occasions that I've needed it. Doing an apt-cache search on the word "bible" turned up a number of things that I've not used but might be worth exploring. Of course, the King James version of the Bible is an old translation and might not be to everyone's taste. I'm guessing however that there might be copyright issues in relation to some newer translations. HTH, Geoff.
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
Good bless Skickat från min iPhone > 17 nov. 2021 kl. 17:54 skrev john doe : > >> On 11/17/2021 5:48 PM, Ttl wrote: >> This not ok to mokkking that i am a christian >> >> Skickat från min iPhone >> >> 17 nov. 2021 kl. 17:31 skrev Sam Hartman : >> "Michael" == Michael A Ray writes: >>> >>>Michael> Surely, if God is omniscient and omnipresent, he will >>>Michael> provide an accessible fairy story reader you can use to >>>Michael> read the Bible. It's just a matter of praying hard enough. >>> >>> Mocking someone's religion is not consistent with the Debian Code of >>> Conduct. >>> This is a case where if you don't have a good response, silence is a >>> better choice. >>> Please do not describe someone's religious text as a fairy story in a >>> Debian forum. >>> > > Please takes this out of hear. > > -- > John Doe >
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
On 11/17/2021 5:48 PM, Ttl wrote: This not ok to mokkking that i am a christian Skickat från min iPhone 17 nov. 2021 kl. 17:31 skrev Sam Hartman : "Michael" == Michael A Ray writes: Michael> Surely, if God is omniscient and omnipresent, he will Michael> provide an accessible fairy story reader you can use to Michael> read the Bible. It's just a matter of praying hard enough. Mocking someone's religion is not consistent with the Debian Code of Conduct. This is a case where if you don't have a good response, silence is a better choice. Please do not describe someone's religious text as a fairy story in a Debian forum. Please takes this out of hear. -- John Doe
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
This not ok to mokkking that i am a christian Skickat från min iPhone 17 nov. 2021 kl. 17:31 skrev Sam Hartman : >> "Michael" == Michael A Ray writes: > >Michael> Surely, if God is omniscient and omnipresent, he will >Michael> provide an accessible fairy story reader you can use to >Michael> read the Bible. It's just a matter of praying hard enough. > > Mocking someone's religion is not consistent with the Debian Code of > Conduct. > This is a case where if you don't have a good response, silence is a > better choice. > Please do not describe someone's religious text as a fairy story in a > Debian forum. > > It looks like bible-kjv ought to be a console accessible bible > application. If not, bible-kjv- > text includes just the text of that version of the bible. >
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
I want the program to reed the text blessings Emanuel Skickat från min iPhone > 17 nov. 2021 kl. 09:23 skrev Michael Weghorn : > > Hi, > > I'm Michael from Germany. While I'm very interested in accessibility, I don't > have any special requirements for accessibility myself. > > I'm occasionally using Xiphos or Bibletime on Debian. Both weren't fully > accessible when I did a quick test with the Orca screen reader. > > What are the use cases you want the Bible program to support? > > For example, there is already a request for Bibletime to read out selectable > portions of the Bible ( https://github.com/bibletime/bibletime/issues/5 ). > If there are specific other use cases or problems you're running into, I'd > suggest to ask for those in the issue trackers of the corresponding programs, > so the developers can consider adding those features. > >> On 13/11/2021 19.16, David Hoff Jr wrote: >> I use Debian and Slint. I'm in California in the USA. Have used Diatheke >> in the console in Debian in the past, but unable to find any accessible Bible >> program for the GUI Desktop. Also use Windows in my work and personal >> use.
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
> "Michael" == Michael A Ray writes: Michael> Surely, if God is omniscient and omnipresent, he will Michael> provide an accessible fairy story reader you can use to Michael> read the Bible. It's just a matter of praying hard enough. Mocking someone's religion is not consistent with the Debian Code of Conduct. This is a case where if you don't have a good response, silence is a better choice. Please do not describe someone's religious text as a fairy story in a Debian forum. It looks like bible-kjv ought to be a console accessible bible application. If not, bible-kjv- text includes just the text of that version of the bible.
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
Hi, I'm Michael from Germany. While I'm very interested in accessibility, I don't have any special requirements for accessibility myself. I'm occasionally using Xiphos or Bibletime on Debian. Both weren't fully accessible when I did a quick test with the Orca screen reader. What are the use cases you want the Bible program to support? For example, there is already a request for Bibletime to read out selectable portions of the Bible ( https://github.com/bibletime/bibletime/issues/5 ). If there are specific other use cases or problems you're running into, I'd suggest to ask for those in the issue trackers of the corresponding programs, so the developers can consider adding those features. On 13/11/2021 19.16, David Hoff Jr wrote: I use Debian and Slint. I'm in California in the USA. Have used Diatheke in the console in Debian in the past, but unable to find any accessible Bible program for the GUI Desktop. Also use Windows in my work and personal use.
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
Amen we pray! Skickat från min iPhone > 13 nov. 2021 kl. 20:53 skrev Michael A Ray : > > > > Surely, if God is omniscient and omnipresent, he will provide an accessible > fairy story reader you can use to read the Bible. It's just a matter of > praying hard enough. > > > >> On 13/11/2021 18:16, David Hoff Jr wrote: >> I use Debian and Slint. I'm in California in the USA. Have used Diatheke >> in the console in Debian in the past, but unable to find any accessible Bible >> program for the GUI Desktop. Also use Windows in my work and personal >> use. > > > -- > Michael A. Ray > Analyst/Programmer > Witley, Surrey, South-east UK > > He/him > > "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when > there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery >
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
Surely, if God is omniscient and omnipresent, he will provide an accessible fairy story reader you can use to read the Bible. It's just a matter of praying hard enough. On 13/11/2021 18:16, David Hoff Jr wrote: I use Debian and Slint. I'm in California in the USA. Have used Diatheke in the console in Debian in the past, but unable to find any accessible Bible program for the GUI Desktop. Also use Windows in my work and personal use. -- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK He/him "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
Ok i am from sweden 27 years old i uce win10 alsso and iphone and android i am blind i Am Emanuel Skickat från min iPhone > 13 nov. 2021 kl. 19:16 skrev David Hoff Jr : > > I use Debian and Slint. I'm in California in the USA. Have used Diatheke > in the console in Debian in the past, but unable to find any accessible Bible > program for the GUI Desktop. Also use Windows in my work and personal > use. > -- > >
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
I use Debian and Slint. I'm in California in the USA. Have used Diatheke in the console in Debian in the past, but unable to find any accessible Bible program for the GUI Desktop. Also use Windows in my work and personal use. --
Christian beliebers here using Debian
are more christians here that using debian blessings Ttl Skickat från min iPhone
