Re: scsi controller for external devices

2006-03-28 Thread Greg Madden
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 10:25, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 tyan k8we

Fast MB, unless you have all the  (external) devices left over, I would't 
bother with fast scsi as I/O. With that board you have USB2, Firewire 
400, and with an add in card firewire 800. That card ad or the devices 
attched to it becomes the bottleneck for perfornance. If you have to go 
scsi I would get a cheaper card, I have used a Tekram DC-315U and a SIIG 
AP-10, both supported by Etch.
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Greg Madden


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Re: scsi controller for external devices

2006-03-28 Thread Francesco Pietra
thanks a lot for pointing out the bottleneck. is that bottleneck also when no 
external device is attached to the scsi controller? i intend to connect the 
scsi chain to the workstation only occasionally for scanning and backup to 
have access to data by an ordinary pc. normally the scsi chain is connected 
to the pc. 

if the scsi controller causes a bottleneck per se, what about accessing the 
scsi devices attached to the pc from the workstation through the zyxel adsl 
rooter?

i need that motherboard to get the best floating point for the money. with 
that workstation i am already at the lower limit to do ab inition quantum 
chemical calculations for large molecules. 

thank you again
francesco pietra

On Wednesday 29 March 2006 00:30, Greg Madden wrote:
 On Tuesday 28 March 2006 10:25, Francesco Pietra wrote:
  tyan k8we

 Fast MB, unless you have all the  (external) devices left over, I would't
 bother with fast scsi as I/O. With that board you have USB2, Firewire
 400, and with an add in card firewire 800. That card ad or the devices
 attched to it becomes the bottleneck for perfornance. If you have to go
 scsi I would get a cheaper card, I have used a Tekram DC-315U and a SIIG
 AP-10, both supported by Etch.
 --
 Greg Madden


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Re: scsi controller for external devices

2006-03-28 Thread Greg Madden
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 12:56, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 thanks a lot for pointing out the bottleneck. is that bottleneck also
 when no external device is attached to the scsi controller? i intend to
 connect the scsi chain to the workstation only occasionally for
 scanning and backup to have access to data by an ordinary pc. normally
 the scsi chain is connected to the pc.

 if the scsi controller causes a bottleneck per se, what about accessing
 the scsi devices attached to the pc from the workstation through the
 zyxel adsl rooter?

 i need that motherboard to get the best floating point for the money.
 with that workstation i am already at the lower limit to do ab inition
 quantum chemical calculations for large molecules.

 thank you again
 francesco pietra

 On Wednesday 29 March 2006 00:30, Greg Madden wrote:
  On Tuesday 28 March 2006 10:25, Francesco Pietra wrote:
   tyan k8we
 
  Fast MB, unless you have all the  (external) devices left over, I
  would't bother with fast scsi as I/O. With that board you have USB2,
  Firewire 400, and with an add in card firewire 800. That card ad or
  the devices attched to it becomes the bottleneck for perfornance. If
  you have to go scsi I would get a cheaper card, I have used a Tekram
  DC-315U and a SIIG AP-10, both supported by Etch.
  --
  Greg Madden

The card won't cause an issue when the devices are not being used. It is 
just when using the devices, with fast scsi you have to wait for the 
results, if applicable, of those operations. It all depends on what you 
do with your system, I.E. scanning high res color photo photos can create 
a large file that takes (x)time to transfer over scsi, while the USB2  
would transfer much faster 480Mbs or 60MB/s vs the 10-20? MB/s for fast 
scsi, same with a hard drive. Of course if you don't use those 
peripherals that much it isn't an issue.

-- 
Greg Madden


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