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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by gt
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Re: Post-woody
* Joey Hess | Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | | As you may or may not know, I will no longer have a position of | | responsibility in the installation system after Woody. Joey Hess has | | volunteer for this position, or at least he did about 18 months ago. | | I assume he's still for it -- hopefully the folks on this list agree | | with that. | | Joey has offered me the position of technical lead on d-i, since he | has too many other things taking up his time, and I have said yes. | Assuming that nobody has any big objections, that is. | | I think that Tollef has been doing a great job already lately, and it's | only fair that he should be saddled with it officially. :-) I will | continue to participate with d-i of course, especially in helping with | design issues and the parts I am the maintainer of. Thanks. :) [...] | It feels to me like a recipe for putting us in exactly the position | we're in now, a year or however long later, once sarge has released. We | have to work on d-i *sometime*, and now is clearly the time. I feel that way as well, if we don't do it now, then when? | Of course I share aph's worries, particularly when all the architectures | are taken into account. absolutely. I have no idea what the problems we'll see on those archs which are very unlike PCs, like s/390. Feedback about possible problems would be appreciated. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to debian-installer/doc by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/doc by tfheen
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Re: Post-woody
* Junichi Uekawa | Last time I checked (which is a long long time ago), debconf had a | design problem with utf-8 (the debconf templates are not in utf-8, | and it is not automatically obvious which character code they are in). | Does cdebconf inherit the same problem? Does it convert to utf-8 on the | fly? The charset in the templates are undefined, but if we decide that we want it to be UTF-8 then that won't be a problem. (Just a small policy decision.) The frontend would have to know how to convert it into something which displays properly, though. Does anybody have a problem with having the templates in UTF8? | What is a bogl frontend ? Is it very different from newt-utf8 that | boot-floppies uses? : tfheen@arabella ..heen/debian-installer/doc apt-cache show bogl-bterm Package: bogl-bterm [...] Description: Ben's Own Graphics Library - graphical terminal Ben's Own Graphics Library is a small framebuffer library, including basic widgets, support for text in multiple languages, and mouse handling. . This package contains bterm, a utf-enabled framebuffer terminal. Right now there is a ncurses and a slang frontend, I am not sure of the state of those, but it should be possible to link the better of them against something-utf8 or create a newt-utf8 frontend. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Post-woody
On 27 May 2002 13:29:35 +0200 Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The charset in the templates are undefined, but if we decide that we want it to be UTF-8 then that won't be a problem. (Just a small policy decision.) The frontend would have to know how to convert it into something which displays properly, though. Does anybody have a problem with having the templates in UTF8? Are you saying that every debconf template file should be in UTF-8? How do you propose to accomplish the transition ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pcmcia_core module missing from woody installer ?
Hi, Looks like the pcmcia_core module is missing from the woody installer ? Regards, -- Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alcove.com/ Technical support managerResponsable de l'assistance technique Senior Free-Software Consultant Consultant senior en Logiciels Libres Debian developer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Développeur Debian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Post-woody
* Junichi Uekawa | On 27 May 2002 13:29:35 +0200 | Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | The charset in the templates are undefined, but if we decide that we | want it to be UTF-8 then that won't be a problem. (Just a small | policy decision.) The frontend would have to know how to convert it | into something which displays properly, though. | | Does anybody have a problem with having the templates in UTF8? | | Are you saying that every debconf template file should be in UTF-8? | How do you propose to accomplish the transition ? Every debconf template which is used in d-i, yes. Why not? It shouldn't be that many templates. The others can be handled when the time is due. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to debian-installer/doc by tfheen
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Re: Post-woody
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:29:35PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: [...] Right now there is a ncurses and a slang frontend, I am not sure of the state of those, but it should be possible to link the better of them against something-utf8 or create a newt-utf8 frontend. It would also be desirable to only support i18n-ed frontends, having English text (Yes/No/Back/Cancel etc.) in buttons is confusing: translators do not know if they have to write English or translated strings in descriptions, because displayed labels depend upon the user selected frontend. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Post-woody
* (Denis Barbier) | On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:29:35PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | [...] | Right now there is a ncurses and a slang frontend, I am not sure of | the state of those, but it should be possible to link the better of | them against something-utf8 or create a newt-utf8 frontend. | | It would also be desirable to only support i18n-ed frontends, having | English text (Yes/No/Back/Cancel etc.) in buttons is confusing: | translators do not know if they have to write English or translated | strings in descriptions, because displayed labels depend upon the | user selected frontend. The way I have implemented the i18n is that they will fall back to non-translated strings if a translated string is not found. I don't see why the frontends shouldn't use the same method of getting the translations as well. A related problem would be how to choose which translations go into the boot-floppies; I am unsure how to fix that. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation on SPARCSTATION 20 (fwd)
I think this is relevant for people doing the install system for sparc: SILO seems to have problems with kernels in separate /boot partitions. The installer shouldn't propose something that will lead the user into a dead end on sparc! Alex -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 15:31:29 +0200 From: Tom Deprez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Installation on SPARCSTATION 20 Resent-Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 15:32:15 +0200 (MEST) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I found a way to solve the problem. If I do not use a seperate partition for /boot then it works... Why is that? But, now I'm facing another problem :-(. During the first part of installation my cd-rom was recognised. Now the installation keeps me asking for the path (which path anyway? eg /dev/cdrom?) When I try to mount, I get the message: /dev/cdrom is not a block device. What am I doing wrong? The cdrom was recognised during the first installation fase Regards, Tom. - Original Message - From: Tom Deprez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 12:08 PM Subject: Installation on SPARCSTATION 20 Hi all, First : I'm new to Debian, I'm new to Sparcs, so I'm really a newbie on both of these! (I received the sparc, because otherwise they throw it away and I wanted to try Debian out, since most people tell me it's the best linux os for a server) I've followed the installation instructions and all went ok, until the end: 1. Creating the rescue floppy didn't work :-( It failed every time I tried 2. When I try to boot with 'boot disk', I get the following message: cannot find /vmlinuz (unknown ext2 error) I'm a little bit stuck here, since nothing is familiar for me. I've looked with google for answers, but most of them were a little bit cryptic, so I'm not wiser at the moment. I know about the sun disk label 's' and I think I did it right, but I'm not sure. I did the following: when creating partitions I did the following: I entered 's' and then just entered (thus letting Sun find itself). This resulted in 3 partitions, it removed all the previous partitions, is this normal? I deleted the first 2 (and left the 3rd alone, since I read that it was a special partition, needed to be on id 3). Then I created the following partitions: sb1 50 MB / sb2 16 MB /boot sb3 the special partition sb4 128 MB swap sb5 100 MB /home sb6 rest of the 2.1 GB /usr sba1 4.1 GB /var sba2 special partition This is mainly a server for the intranet, I hope my partitioning is ok. If not, please give some advice. Highly appreciated! Now, my questions: What did I do wrong? Why couldn't I create the rescue floppy? Is there a way to still create it? How can I proceed with the installation? Thanks in advance, Tom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/db/rfc822db by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/anna by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/main-menu by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/retriever/cdrom by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/autopartkit by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/debian by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdrom-detect/debian by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/selectdevice by tfheen
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cvs commit to debian-installer/doc by joeyh
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b-f 3.0.23 powerpc-apus lot of joy but still some issues
Hi Yes, I am back to the game and just tried the latest b-f 3.0.23 from dists/woody/main/disks-powerpc/current/apus/. The first part worked flawlessly out-of-the-box, apart from some typos in english and german translations, but I think I could send in a diff when I finally managed to install woody. Yeah, that's where the trouble begun. I haven't been reading any lists in the last few weeks so I may not be up-to-date, but a search in the archive did not bring anything to the (not so bright anymore) daylight. As the situation seems to be now, woody got finally freezed, and everything is pointing to stable. So after the base installation, tasksel obviously gets its packages from the potato directories and doesn't succeed to configure it all correctly. Is this really like this? At least the sources file points to stable. So how should I proceed to do a proper install? Should I change the sources file manually, and when? After starting tasksel? And how? Should I just substitute every stable by testing? Or do I have to await final release, and it's just a bad point in time to now install woody? Another problem occured: as I am on a lan but without an always-on connection, it's not been the case that the network was up when the system booted on its own power for the first time, so the boot process hung when configuring the network. Afterwards I wasn't able to bring up the interface to connect, I had to reboot. What do I have to do to bring up ethernet (a dhcp server is giving me my ip, aswell as all the other stuff like gateway, dns server...)? I couldn't find a script which I could have run manually.. (sorry but I am kinda newbie in this sector). So, may it be a good idea to make a statement in the install guide in The Moment of Truth section, that one has to have the local network as well as the dhcp server up during boot, otherwise proceeding with a net install won't be possible, as the network is geting configured during boot time (as always I would volunteer to do the wording)? I think this would be quite useful, especially for newbies, as the output of tasksel is not really helpful (something wicked happened during resolving http://...;). -- Best wishes, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: b-f 3.0.23 powerpc-apus lot of joy but still some issues
#include hallo.h Andreas Wüst wrote on Mon May 27, 2002 um 07:29:21PM: be now, woody got finally freezed, and everything is pointing to stable. So after the base installation, tasksel obviously gets its packages from the potato directories and doesn't succeed to configure it all correctly. Is this really like this? At least the sources file points to stable. So hope that Woody be released soon, then the apt paths do work as expected. So how should I proceed to do a proper install? Should I change the sources file manually, and when? After starting tasksel? And how? Login on the second console as root and run editor /etc/apt/sources.list ;) Should I just substitute every stable by testing? Or do I have to await final release, and it's just a bad point in time to now install woody? Better substitute with woody for the next time. Another problem occured: as I am on a lan but without an always-on connection, it's not been the case that the network was up when the system booted on its own power for the first time, so the boot process hung when configuring the network. Afterwards I wasn't able to bring up the interface to connect, I had to reboot. What do I have to do to bring up ethernet (a dhcp server is giving me my ip, aswell as all the other stuff like gateway, dns server...)? I If you did setup the interface with DHCP while installing, and the DHCP server is up, you will get working network. When init hangs, there is a wrong default (gateway) route, set by you manually or broken DHCP server, or your gateway is down. couldn't find a script which I could have run manually.. (sorry but I am kinda newbie in this sector). ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 and read man interfaces Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- begin LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.txt.vbs I am a signature virus. Distribute me until the bitter end -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po by murat
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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by claush
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cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by claush
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Re: Post-woody
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 03:14:26PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * (Denis Barbier) | On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 01:29:35PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | [...] | Right now there is a ncurses and a slang frontend, I am not sure of | the state of those, but it should be possible to link the better of | them against something-utf8 or create a newt-utf8 frontend. | | It would also be desirable to only support i18n-ed frontends, having | English text (Yes/No/Back/Cancel etc.) in buttons is confusing: | translators do not know if they have to write English or translated | strings in descriptions, because displayed labels depend upon the | user selected frontend. The way I have implemented the i18n is that they will fall back to non-translated strings if a translated string is not found. I don't see why the frontends shouldn't use the same method of getting the translations as well. I do not understand your answer, sorry. Consider the cvs/pserver template from cvs.templates: Template: cvs/pserver Type: boolean Default: false Description: Should the CVS pserver be enabled? [...] CVS pserver will be installed in inetd, using tcpd wrappers if you answer yes to this question. As a translator, I cannot decide whether the 'yes' word has to be translated or not, because button label depends upon the selected frontend, it might be either 'yes' or its translation. For instance whiptail is not i18n-ed, so when a German user has selected dialog frontend, he is told to click on the 'Ja' button which does not exist! In order to avoid this annoyance, I suggested to only accept i18n-ed frontends. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Post-woody
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:06:26PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: [...] In order to avoid this annoyance, I suggested to only accept i18n-ed frontends. This suggestion does only make sense for interactive frontends, of course. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Post-woody
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:14:15PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:06:26PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: [...] In order to avoid this annoyance, I suggested to only accept i18n-ed frontends. This suggestion does only make sense for interactive frontends, of course. Not really. Even people doing non-interactive installs might want to enter a name or some such with non-ascii characters. -- Mike Stone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: b-f 3.0.23 powerpc-apus lot of joy but still some issues
Hi Eduard Thank you very much for your speedy answer!! #include hallo.h Andreas Wüst wrote on Mon May 27, 2002 um 07:29:21PM: be now, woody got finally freezed, and everything is pointing to stable. So after the base installation, tasksel obviously gets its packages from the potato directories and doesn't succeed to configure it all correctly. Is this really like this? At least the sources file points to stable. So hope that Woody be released soon, then the apt paths do work as expected. I'm full of hope since at least one year.. ;) Should I really wait?? So how should I proceed to do a proper install? Should I change the sources file manually, and when? After starting tasksel? And how? Login on the second console as root and run editor /etc/apt/sources.list ;) Surprise surprise!! Should I just substitute every stable by testing? Or do I have to await final release, and it's just a bad point in time to now install woody? Better substitute with woody for the next time. Alright. But when's the optimal point-in-time during base-config? Another problem occured: as I am on a lan but without an always-on connection, it's not been the case that the network was up when the system booted on its own power for the first time, so the boot process hung when configuring the network. Afterwards I wasn't able to bring up the interface to connect, I had to reboot. What do I have to do to bring up ethernet (a dhcp server is giving me my ip, aswell as all the other stuff like gateway, dns server...)? I If you did setup the interface with DHCP while installing, and the DHCP server is up, you will get working network. When init hangs, there is a wrong default (gateway) route, set by you manually or broken DHCP server, or your gateway is down. Yes, the dhcp server was down when I booted the machine, so it couldn't find a single computer on the network. But I did not know how to bring up eth0 after boot had completed. couldn't find a script which I could have run manually.. (sorry but I am kinda newbie in this sector). ifdown eth0 ifup eth0 Cool!! I always thought it has to be something like this but was obviously looking in the wrong places for it (I found a lot of interesting stuff but not this.. Murphys law..) and read man interfaces Thanks a lot!! Always tried with man network. No luck.. -- Well, thanks again for your instructive answer, all the best, Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: b-f 3.0.23 powerpc-apus lot of joy but still some issues
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 11:22:46PM +0200, Andreas W?st wrote: Hi Eduard Should I just substitute every stable by testing? Or do I have to await final release, and it's just a bad point in time to now install woody? Better substitute with woody for the next time. Alright. But when's the optimal point-in-time during base-config? Right when the dialog is waiting for an answer whether you want to run tasksel. The sources.list has not been created until then. -- *--v- Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 v--* | http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual | | debian-imac (potato): http://debian-imac.sourceforge.net | |Chris Tillman[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | May the Source be with you | ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Post-woody
Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit: | Are you saying that every debconf template file should be in UTF-8? | How do you propose to accomplish the transition ? Every debconf template which is used in d-i, yes. Why not? It shouldn't be that many templates. The others can be handled when the time is due. Last time I looked, there is no charset signifier in debconf templates, how does one know if the template is in utf-8 or euc-jp? Or am I misunderstanding what you mean by debconf templates completely? regards, junichi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Junichi Uekawa http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer GPG Fingerprint : 17D6 120E 4455 1832 9423 7447 3059 BF92 CD37 56F4 Libpkg-guide: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Possible bug...
Sat, May 25, 2002 at 10:41:18AM +0200 wrote: I hope im not the only one to experience this problem: when booting from the current ATA66 boot floppies or the v2.2.5 iso, That is potato, yes? Please try woody boot-floppies. There won't be another release of potato boot-floppies. We are very interested in bugs in woody boot-floppies. Thanks, -David my computer freezes at checking hlt instrucions Is there a problem with Intel's 500mhz Mendozino Celerons? If not, perhaps with the other HW: MB: PcChips (LX chipset) Gfx: Diamond Viper 550 (Nvidia TNT) Net: Realtek 8139 HD: 4gb Quantum Fireball -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pcmcia_core module missing from woody installer ?
Mon, May 27, 2002 at 02:35:52PM +0200 wrote: Hi, Looks like the pcmcia_core module is missing from the woody installer ? Can you be more specific, which version? where did you get it, what flavor (idepci, bf2.4 . . . ) what arch? Thanks, -David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
