Re: Cross-Installation for Target Machines
Christoph Plattner [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit: Hi, Example: I have a intel/AMD PC running as host and boot server. I have a net bootable kernel for SPARC and I want to create a valid woody basic installation on a NFS-ROOT exported file system, example `/export/rootfs/hostname/woody' (= root fs). It is rather difficult as of current state, because debootstrap would need to run the postinst scripts inside the chroot, which requires that the host arch=target arch. However, if debootstrap creates the chroot by extracting the debs only, possibly running the sid script to only up to x_feign_install dpkg, and possibly hacking a /sbin/init that has: #!/bin/sh exec /post-install.sh and creating a shell script /post-install.sh which runs the rest of install_debs() from debootstrap natively, it sounds like it could be done. Sounds like a pretty interesting/exciting idea, although it is not currently implemented, it should be doable. regards, junichi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Junichi Uekawa http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer GPG Fingerprint : 17D6 120E 4455 1832 9423 7447 3059 BF92 CD37 56F4 Libpkg-guide: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian-installer - devfs
* Bastian Blank | On Sat, Sep 28, 2002 at 07:09:00AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | * Bastian Blank | | debian-installer is using kernel 2.4 by default. why it doesn't use | | devfs to safe some initrd space? | it does. | | why is dev filed with a bunch of devices? because nobody has cared enough to fix it yet? -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new loadlin working with bf2.4 flavor ?
Hi, Is there somewhere a new version of loadlin.exe working with de bf2.4 flavor to boot debian installation from harddisk ? Looking for a solution I've only found the 142421 open bug reportno solution for an installation from hardisk (msdos or linux) ? Thanks, Unai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root image for network install ?
Thanks for all hints here ! But I have no luck in that Debian setup. I did following experiment, and I can give a list of problems. And those problems I have, although I have many experience in net booting of i386 (etherboot+GRUB) net booting ELKS (was developed by me) net booting of HP-PARISC with rbootd and BOOTP/TFTP net booting sparc via RARP and TFTP net booting VAX via BOOTP/TFTP and mopd and more on that. Also have experience in setting up root file systems for NFS and locally and with embedded target systems. But I have problems with the debian default procedures: Machine to become debian workstation: IPC Sparc 4/40 (25MHz, 36MB RAM). If I boot my self-made kernel (2.2.20) I can boot the debian root image for installation, but there are problems with network access. No package can be down- loaded, independent if network is configured or not (not means: default setup via BOOTP). Even doing a bootp configuration does not work. BTW: This kernel is loaded via boot net root=/dev/nfs ip=bootp. The original debian tftp image: Error at the end of loading: alignment error ... Then I tried it with the `linux-a.out' kernel (I did a padding to full 512byte boundary with zeros, otherwise the loader hangs at the end. I load this kernel with the parameter `ip=bootp' otherwise it doesn't have thr nfsroot. And this Bootp request done by the kernel is not working. I have no idea why ? I never had this problem with selfbuilt kernels. On `tcpdump' I see the request AND the answer, but the Linux kernel ignores this and repeats requests ... The eth0 driver was recongnized correctly by the driver. To sum up, I cannot understand the whole thing. Is this IPC a problem, I should do the test on my other SUN machine, the SparcStation 2. But I cannot see, why your Linux kernel shows such problems. Is the woody the right source ? Is there a difference between woody and release 3.0 ? It was my strategy now, to use debian everywhere. Up to now I used RedHat, and I also did a short work on Suse. But both destributions become to thick and complex. Debian has a small base, and I am responsible for myself to select a set of functionality. So I hope, I will solve all the startup problems. With friendly regards Christoph P. Christoph Plattner wrote: Hello Debian Hackers, here is a further dependent question: Although I am not new in Linux-stuff, and although a participate some GNU projects or even HP and VAX Linux projects (device driver development), I am not able to fully understand the debian installation (sorry). To get a fully naked installation (empty machine), I need the current rescue floppy, containing SILO and kernel. This floppy isinstrumented to ask for a root floppy. The root floppy download from the web is one, which is only possible to use for locally installation, for example for CD ROM. But which floppy or image I have to use for the standard network installation via ftp ? I cannot find it ! The drivers are only drivers (I think), the base system is the tar ball for a root file system (debootstrap cannot unpack it on a i386 system, as I want to install a SPARC machine). Which root floppy I have to use ??? I already installed debian from CD on a HP-PA-RISC machine, and I updated a Athlon-PC from RedHat to debian via debootstrap (which worked quite well). So I miss the cross-install between different target types (see mail before), I missed the offline install for a root file system on a NFS server for NFS-Root clients, and I miss the default procedure for network install (root floppy). I hope you can give some hints here ... Christoph P. -- --- private:[EMAIL PROTECTED] company:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- private:[EMAIL PROTECTED] company:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Boot-floppies
Is Sarge bootable from the floppies? How could I install it dirctly form boot-floppies, if is it possible? I have all the 9 CD of the Sarge but someone have some package corrupt, I must to download again all the ISO? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cross-Installation for Target Machines
At 9:23 +0200 9/29/02, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Christoph Plattner [EMAIL PROTECTED] immo vero scripsit: Hi, Example: I have a intel/AMD PC running as host and boot server. I have a net bootable kernel for SPARC and I want to create a valid woody basic installation on a NFS-ROOT exported file system, example `/export/rootfs/hostname/woody' (= root fs). It is rather difficult as of current state, because debootstrap would need to run the postinst scripts inside the chroot, which requires that the host arch=target arch. However, if debootstrap creates the chroot by extracting the debs only, possibly running the sid script to only up to x_feign_install dpkg, and possibly hacking a /sbin/init that has: #!/bin/sh exec /post-install.sh and creating a shell script /post-install.sh which runs the rest of install_debs() from debootstrap natively, it sounds like it could be done. debootstrap has options to take the 'which requires that the host arch=target arch' hurdle SYNOPSIS debootstrap [OPTION]... SUITE TARGET [MIRROR [SCRIPT]] DESCRIPTION debootstrap bootstraps a basic Debian system of SUITE into TARGET from MIRROR by running SCRIPT. MIRROR can be an http:// URL or a file:/ URL. OPTIONS --arch ARCH Set the target architecture (use if dpkg isn't installed) --download-only Download packages, but don't perform installation Sounds like a pretty interesting/exciting idea, although it is not currently implemented, it should be doable. yes, it is interesting/exciting and it looks like there are parts already implemented Geert St -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root image for network install ?
On Sun, Sep 29, 2002 at 08:21:56PM +0200, Christoph Plattner wrote: Thanks for all hints here ! But I have no luck in that Debian setup. I did following experiment, and I can give a list of problems. And those problems I have, although I have many experience in net booting of i386 (etherboot+GRUB) net booting ELKS (was developed by me) net booting of HP-PARISC with rbootd and BOOTP/TFTP net booting sparc via RARP and TFTP net booting VAX via BOOTP/TFTP and mopd and more on that. Also have experience in setting up root file systems for NFS and locally and with embedded target systems. But I have problems with the debian default procedures: Machine to become debian workstation: IPC Sparc 4/40 (25MHz, 36MB RAM). Have you tried over on debian-sparc? There is very little experience in this group with tftp booting. There were some additions a few months ago regarding tftp in the install manual, have you read it thoroughly? Yes, woody=3.0. -- *--v- Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 v--* | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual | |debian-imac: http://debian-imac.sourceforge.net | |Chris Tillman[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | To Have, Give All to All (ACIM) | ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po by gleydson
Repository: boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po who:gleydson time: Sun Sep 29 14:24:54 MDT 2002 Log Message: Some text cosmetics done after install system tests Files: changed:pt.po -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po by gleydson
Repository: boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po who:gleydson time: Sun Sep 29 14:26:53 MDT 2002 Log Message: Done some text cosmetics after install system tests Files: changed:pt.po -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woody install problems
I'm having a really tough time installing woody on a tyan tiger mp or mpx. No matter what what I do the install either: - detects no hard drives at all - finds the drives, but hangs during file system initialization - gets to the point of writing files onto the file system, then hangs part way thru. Oddly enough, I've had this same mother board, drives, drive controllers, etc running RH7.1; but now, neither RH7.3 or woody will install on the system (can't find the rh7.1 discs to re-try it). Win2K installs and runs just fine. Which sorta indicates that the hardware is fine. I've also tried different drive controllers. The system was originally running with two cd writers on the MB's primary and secondary ide channels and the drives on a 3ware ide raid card. However, I suspect that the file system performance was really poor and I want something to compare to; so I wanted to remove the ide raid card and test the file system with the one hard drive and cd writer on the MB's ide. For the installs with the pci ide cards I did use bf2.4. I've even changed MB's. The orginal MB was a tyan tiger MP purcahsed a year ago, second was a tiger MPX purchased recently. Am using DDR ECC memory. I've tried installing RH7.3 and woody under the following conditions, and both fail at one of the previously mentioned points: - hard drive on MB's primary ide, cd writer on MB's secondary ide - hard drives on promside pci ide controller (no raid) - hard drives on 3ware pci ide raid card, configured JBOD cd writes on MB's primary and secondary ide I've searched the mailing list archives high and low looking for problems that matched mine; but the only thing I've found was a post saying to use bf2.4 and one pointing to some other files to use: Peter, Try this one http://people.debian.org/~blade/boot-floppies/cvs/boot-bf2.4-with-basedebs.iso http://people.debian.org/%7Eblade/boot-floppies/cvs/boot-bf2.4-with-basedebs.iso This works for me on every think I have tried it in. Can't figure out what to do with this one: doesn't boot and neither do any of the images on it. Wont work with this crap without additional modules. See http://www.debian.org/~blade/install/preload/ http://www.debian.org/%7Eblade/install/preload/. This didn't help either; but it doesn't seem like I should need it if the hard drive is just on the MB's ide. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/en by gleydson
Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/en who:gleydson time: Sun Sep 29 15:20:55 MDT 2002 Log Message: Changed '-' to '-gt;' in 'Boot Parameter Arguments' section Files: changed:rescue-boot.sgml -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation by barbier
Repository: boot-floppies/documentation who:barbier time: Sun Sep 29 15:57:32 MDT 2002 Log Message: Sync with EN 1.155 Files: changed:release-notes.fr.sgml -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
