cvs commit to debian-installer/anna/debian by sjogren
Repository: debian-installer/anna/debian who:sjogren time: Thu Nov 28 01:30:32 MST 2002 Log Message: improve the menutest to detect mounted CDs Files: changed:changelog menutest -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Status of SPARC port
Hey. I'll be getting a SPARCstation 20 for little or no cost at all very soon! I'm a real SPARC newbie, so porting d-i will probably not be the first thing I do. But I can test things, and I plan to test brltty to verify if it actually works on anything else than i386... So, BenC or whoever, what is the status of the d-i port for SPARC? Is there anything a newbie to the architecture could do for you? -- CYa, Mario -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/s390/dasd/debian by barbier
Repository: debian-installer/tools/s390/dasd/debian who:barbier time: Thu Nov 28 04:59:13 MST 2002 Log Message: Now that this Choices field contains an English word, it must be localized. Files: changed:s390-dasd.templates -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/s390/dasd/debian/po by barbier
Repository: debian-installer/tools/s390/dasd/debian/po who:barbier time: Thu Nov 28 04:59:32 MST 2002 Log Message: Update Files: changed:pt_BR.po templates.pot -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/s390/netdevice/debian by barbier
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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/s390/netdevice/debian/po by barbier
Repository: debian-installer/tools/s390/netdevice/debian/po who:barbier time: Thu Nov 28 05:07:04 MST 2002 Log Message: Sync Files: changed:pt_BR.po templates.pot -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Daily Jigdo?
Martin Sjögren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not daily, but there are jigdo files generated weekly: http://gluck.debian.org/debian-cd/testing/jigdo-area/ I thought Sarge5.iso was bootable[1], but it is not! :-) I've not been able to mount 2 file system. The root was ok, but I did want to mount '/home' and it freeze. But, it recognize well my Plextor[2] ant my scsi card[3], I'll try to investigate a bit more. Why is the interface is no more the big blue screen with list boxes etc.? Is it because you did rewrite the whole thing? PS: I'm not on the list, can you CC me? [1] http://gluck.debian.org/debian-cd/testing/jigdo-area/i386/snapshot/install/doc/ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-install-cd [2] PlexWriter PX-W8432T [3] Adaptec AIC-7881U -- Arnaud Vandyck -http://vbstefi60.fapse.ulg.ac.be/~arnaud/- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Status of SPARC port
* Mario Lang | So, BenC or whoever, what is the status of the d-i port for SPARC? | Is there anything a newbie to the architecture | could do for you? BenC has done some work on it, but nothing has been commited yet, AFAIK. (BenC Cc-ed) -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdebconf: preconfigured package
* Sylvain Ferriol | but is it possible to have a file in that way, which contains answers; | not in the debconf database but in the udeb or deb package. | | So, i can create udeb or deb packages with a preconfigured options. | | example: | i see in netcfg-static.templates file, the question about netmask: | netcfg/get_netmask | i have to install debian on all computers in my lan network = the | netmask is the same. | so i want to create a special preconfigured netcfg-static.udeb | (netcfg-static.pdeb for example) which contains a file (debian/answers) | with: | Template: netcfg/get_netmask | Type: string | Answer: 255.255.23.0 This is not possible today, it will be possible sometime in the future when you should be able to dump defaults to a floppy and use that for the next install. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Daily Jigdo?
* Arnaud Vandyck | I've not been able to mount 2 file system. The root was ok, but I did | want to mount '/home' and it freeze. But, it recognize well my | Plextor[2] ant my scsi card[3], I'll try to investigate a bit more. Known bug, fixed in CVS and the archive. The jigdos should be ok on Friday. | Why is the interface is no more the big blue screen with list boxes | etc.? Is it because you did rewrite the whole thing? Yes, and the slang frontend isn't enabled yet. | PS: I'm not on the list, can you CC me? done. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian on BX300 Siemens Blade servers.
hi, im currently playing around to install Debian on a Siemens BX300 Blade Server. These Blades get their CDROM and Floppy Drives over USB, and thats the Problem. I tried to install with the bf24 Floppy Disks from the official Woody CDROM. The rescue Disk boots, and prompts for the root Disk, if i insert that Disk the Setup cant access /dev/fd0.. doesnt find it, Setup dies (have to reboot over typing the Restart button) Then it tried with woody CDROM, the Setup boots normal, i configured the Keyboard, partitioned the disks and so on, but then on the point to install Kernel and Device driver Modules the CDROM isnt in the list of the Install Sources. Only fd1/fd0/harddisk/mountpoint there.. (The Setup also wasnt able to geht some Network device, no problem there, so or so the cables not patched) dmesg shows me that USB Subsystem loadet, and 2 Devices connected (it also says that these devices not gained by any driver), if i exec a shell, i can mount /proc/bus/usb and blah. Any ideas i can get Debian Setup working on these Machine without Network ? I tried installing RedHat, but only have cd 1, and in the Rescue System i cant umount the cdrom to copy my Debian CD on a local Partition. SuSE also doesnt setup the CDROM. anyone got ideas ?? thanks alot ! -- greetings /*/ michael ablassmeier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to debian-installer/build/pkg-lists/cdrom144 by tfheen
Repository: debian-installer/build/pkg-lists/cdrom144 who:tfheen time: Thu Nov 28 17:18:01 CET 2002 Log Message: comment out isa-pnp-modules and floppy-modules for now. This is so we actually have something which builds. Files: changed:common i386 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian on BX300 Siemens Blade servers.
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 03:47:00PM +0100, Michael Ablassmeier wrote: hi, im currently playing around to install Debian on a Siemens BX300 Blade Server. These Blades get their CDROM and Floppy Drives over USB, and thats the Problem. I tried to install with the bf24 Floppy Disks from the official ... (it also says that these devices not gained by any driver), if i exec a shell, i can mount /proc/bus/usb and blah. Does 'blah' mean no filesystem is mounted? Because if you can mount the filesystem manually in the shell, you can proceed in the installer choosing 'mounted filesystem'. Though I would think you would be trying to mount /dev/usb/something, not in /proc. -- ** |Chris Tillman[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | To HAVE, GIVE all TO all (ACIM) | ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
di-utils-mkfs rewritten
Hi boot folk, I have a little bit rewritten the mkfs utility, because I think it lacks some important things like lvm or raid support, other filesystems, ... The result is a newly created C-program which currently support the following features (not perfect yet): * you can select multiple partitions and format these in one step * it find all mkfs.* utilities in the system and list the supported supported filesystems from this information (maybe we must integrate /proc/filesystem checks also) * it display only partitions which aren't mounted at this time * if the partition/device is a real harddisk (eg ide/scsi) is list partition with id=83 (not finished yet, segfault :() * it list lvm/raid/evms whatever devices because it use the information from /proc/partitions So, what's currently _not_ working: it doesn't fully support s390 archs, because the disk doesn't include ide/scsi in the string (should be easy to include). It doesn't detected mounted partitions correct, because the mount partition postinst-script doesn't mount the disks from /dev/(ide|scsi)/... but from /dev/discs/... (and these discs aren't listed in /proc/partitions). So please test the program at let me know your opinions. The codebase can also used for the mkswap postinst. Thanks and bye Thorsten -- Thorsten Sauter [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Is there life after /sbin/halt -p?) di.tgz Description: GNU Unix tar archive msg23957/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[main-menu] default choice
I've been pondering how to implement the default choice in the main menu. The menutest scripts will of course have to be used, but I don't think they should be the primary method. Currently, we do this: - We ask all menu items do you want to be default? If they have a menutest, they answer yes or no, if they don't have a menutest, we check the status of the package (ret = unpacked || half_configured). - Of the menu items who say yes on isdefault, we pick the one with highest installer_menu_item Right, so the lower you are on the menu, the better you're off, and you're also better off if you *don't* have a menutest script :) That's why lilo-installer and base-installer often is the default. I think that the main way to check for default is package dependencies (among the menu items! I don't care if cdebconf isn't configured yet). This would mean that di-utils-mkfs cannot ever be the default before partitioned-harddrives - di-utils-partitioner has been configured. base-installer cannot be default before mounted-partitions - di-utils-mount-partitions has been configured. If we have ties, i.e. several packages that meet these criteria we could look at - status (unpacked ranks higher than installed, since 'installed' means it's been configured, i.e. the menu item has been executed) - menutest This puts menutests in a completely different situation, since they are now used mainly to resolve ties between different packages that provide the same virtual package (i.e. netcfg-dhcp exits with 0 and netcfg-static with 1, so -dhcp is default instead of -static) Can we still have ties after this? Do we want to still have ties after this and if so, how do we resolve them? Can we make sure that we don't have any ties here? Comments appreciated. /Martin signature.asc Description: Detta =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E4r?= en digitalt signeradmeddelandedel
Swedish translation for netcfg
I hope this translation can be of use. Regards: David Weinehall diff -uN debian-installer/tools/netcfg/debian/po.old/sv.po debian-installer/tools/netcfg/debian/po/sv.po --- debian-installer/tools/netcfg/debian/po.old/sv.po 1970-01-01 01:00:00.0 +0100 +++ debian-installer/tools/netcfg/debian/po/sv.po 2002-11-27 16:48:13.0 ++0100 @@ -0,0 +1,308 @@ +# Swedish translation for netcfg +# Copyright (C) 2002 David Kimdon +# This file is distributed under the same license as the netcfg package. +# David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002. +# +#, fuzzy +msgid +msgstr +Project-Id-Version: netcfg 0.20\n +POT-Creation-Date: 2002-10-20 23:12+0200\n +PO-Revision-Date: 2002-11-27 15:20+0100\n +Last-Translator: David Weinehall [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n +Language-Team: Swedish [EMAIL PROTECTED]\n +MIME-Version: 1.0\n +Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1\n +Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:3 +msgid Choose the domain name. +msgstr Välj domännamn. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:3 +msgid +The domain name is the part of your Internet address to the right of your +host name. It is often something that ends in .com, .net, .edu, or .org. +If you are setting up a home network, you can make something up, but make +sure you use the same domain name on all your computers. +msgstr +Domännamnet är den del av din Internet-adress som finns på höger sida av +värdnamnet. Domännamnet slutar oftast med .com, .net, .edu, .org eller .se. +Om du installerar ett nätverk för hemmabruk kan du hitta på +någonting, men se till att du använder samma domännamn på alla dina datorer. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:11 +msgid Choose the DNS Server Addresses +msgstr Välj adresser till DNS-servrar + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:11 +msgid +Please enter the IP addresses (not host names) of up to 3 name servers, +separated by spaces. Do not use commas. The servers will be queried in the +order in which you enter them. If you don't want to use any name servers +just leave this field blank. +msgstr +Var god ange IP-adressen (inte värdnamnen) för upp till 3 namnservrar, +åtskilda av blanksteg. Använd inte komman. Servrarna kommer att utfrågas +i den ordning du anger dem. Om du inte vill använda några namnservrar, +kan du lämna fältet tomt. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:20 +msgid Choose an interface. +msgstr Välj ett nätverkskort. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:20 +msgid +The following interfaces were detected. Choose the type of your primary +network interface that you will need for installing the Debian system (via +NFS or HTTP). +msgstr +Följande nätverkskort har hittats. Välj typ på det nätverkskort +som du vill använda för att installera Debian-systemet (via NFS eller HTTP). + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:27 +msgid An error occured. +msgstr Ett fel uppstod. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:27 +msgid Something went wrong when I tried to activate your network. +msgstr Någonting gick fel vid aktiveringen av ditt nätverk. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:33 +msgid Enter the system's hostname. +msgstr Ange systemets värdnamn. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:33 +msgid +The hostname is a single word that identifies your system to the network. +If you don't know what your hostname should be, consult your network +administrator. If you are setting up your own home network, you can make +something up here. +msgstr +Värdnamnet är ett ord som identifierar ditt system på nätverket. +Om du inte vet vad ditt värdnamn skall vara +bör du fråga din nätverksadministratör. + Om du installerar ett nätverk för hemmabruk kan +du hitta på ett namn. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:41 +msgid The hostname \${hostname}\ is invalid. +msgstr Värdnamnet \${hostname}\ är ogiltigt. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:41 +msgid +A valid hostname may contain only alphanumeric characters and the minus +sign, be between 2 and 63 characters long, and cannot begin or end with a +minus sign. +msgstr +Giltiga värdnamn får endast bestå av alfanumeriska tecken samt +minustecken, måste vara mellan 2 och 63 tecken långt, och får inte börja +eller sluta med ett minustecken. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:48 +msgid An error occured and I cannot continue. +msgstr Ett fel uppstod. Kan inte fortsätta. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:48 +msgid Feel free to retry. +msgstr Om du vill kan du försöka igen. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:53 +msgid No interfaces were detected. +msgstr Inga nätverkskort kunde hittas. + +#. Description +#: ../netcfg-common.templates:53 +msgid +No network interfaces were found. That means that the installation system +was unable to find a network device. If you do have a network card, then it +is possible that the module
Re: Swedish translation for netcfg
tor 2002-11-28 klockan 21.43 skrev David Weinehall: I hope this translation can be of use. netcfg is undergoing a rewrite right now, and I'm not sure of the current state of it, so I can't promise what'll happen to this translation, but I'll commit it. Hmm, looks like I already had a partial translation on my own, I'll merge them and see what happens :) /Martin signature.asc Description: Detta =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E4r?= en digitalt signeradmeddelandedel
Re: [main-menu] default choice
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 08:28:25PM +0100, Martin Sjögren wrote: Can we still have ties after this? Do we want to still have ties after this and if so, how do we resolve them? Can we make sure that we don't have any ties here? bad joke We could use cloneproof Schwartz sequential dropping to resolve these ties. /bad joke Sorry, couldn't resist, Jochen -- Omm (0)-(0) http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~wwwstoch/voss/privat.html msg23961/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/netcfg/debian by sjogren
Repository: debian-installer/tools/netcfg/debian who:sjogren time: Thu Nov 28 14:28:12 MST 2002 Log Message: Added Swedish translation Files: changed:changelog -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/netcfg/debian/po by sjogren
Repository: debian-installer/tools/netcfg/debian/po who:sjogren time: Thu Nov 28 14:28:13 MST 2002 Log Message: Added Swedish translation Files: added: sv.po -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition size
Thanks Colin. Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:10:00PM +, Chris Lale wrote: I read in the Debian installation manual (v.3.0.24, 24th May 2002 section 6.4) that partitions greater than about 6Gb should be avoided. Does anyone know if this true? If so, why? They're a bit of a pain with ext2 because they'll take geological time to fsck if the system ever shuts down uncleanly. With a journalling filesystem there should be no problem. One of my partitions is 8Gb and I have noticed exactly this behaviour. It also takes aeons to mount during boot. Do you think I should convert all my partions to ext3, or just the 8Gb one? (I am cc-ing this message to the Debian installation manual authors via the debian-boot list. Perhaps they may wish to revise the document to include this information.) Cheers, Chris. -- : ___ Chris Lale [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : / \ : : | _/ My PC runs Debian GNU/Linux 3.0. : : \ Robust, secure and free operating system + applications. : : \ Available at http://www.debian.org : -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition size
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:16:11AM +, Chris Lale wrote: Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:10:00PM +, Chris Lale wrote: I read in the Debian installation manual (v.3.0.24, 24th May 2002 section 6.4) that partitions greater than about 6Gb should be avoided. Does anyone know if this true? If so, why? They're a bit of a pain with ext2 because they'll take geological time to fsck if the system ever shuts down uncleanly. With a journalling filesystem there should be no problem. One of my partitions is 8Gb and I have noticed exactly this behaviour. It also takes aeons to mount during boot. Do you think I should convert all my partions to ext3, or just the 8Gb one? My experiences with ext3 have been uniformly good, so I tend to convert even small partitions to it. However, others may have had different experiences. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition size
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 02:50:19PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:16:11AM +, Chris Lale wrote: Colin Watson wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:10:00PM +, Chris Lale wrote: I read in the Debian installation manual (v.3.0.24, 24th May 2002 section 6.4) that partitions greater than about 6Gb should be avoided. Does anyone know if this true? If so, why? They're a bit of a pain with ext2 because they'll take geological time to fsck if the system ever shuts down uncleanly. With a journalling filesystem there should be no problem. One of my partitions is 8Gb and I have noticed exactly this behaviour. It also takes aeons to mount during boot. Do you think I should convert all my partions to ext3, or just the 8Gb one? My experiences with ext3 have been uniformly good, so I tend to convert even small partitions to it. However, others may have had different experiences. I have had no problems with ext3 either, nor have I heard of anyone having problems, nor is there any bugs open in e2fsprogs. Should we just flatly recommend ext3 in the manual? Or maybe something like Index: partitioning.sgml === RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/boot-floppies/documentation/en/partitioning.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.59 diff -u -r1.59 partitioning.sgml --- partitioning.sgml 19 Aug 2002 15:06:54 - 1.59 +++ partitioning.sgml 28 Nov 2002 17:51:12 - @@ -251,9 +251,9 @@ p For new users, personal Debian boxes, home systems, and other single-user setups, a single file//file partition (plus swap) is -probably the easiest, simplest way to go. It is possible to have problems with -this idea, though, with larger (20GB) disks. Based on limitations in -how ext2 works, avoid any single partition greater than 6GB or so. +probably the easiest, simplest way to go. But for any single partition +greater than 6GB or so, choose the ext3 type filesystem (which also +works fine for smaller partitions, but is a more recent development). p For multi-user systems, it's best to put file/usr/file, file/var/file, file/tmp/file, and file/home/file each on -- ** |Chris Tillman[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | To HAVE, GIVE all TO all (ACIM) | ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition size
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:52:14AM -0700, Chris Tillman wrote: I have had no problems with ext3 either, nor have I heard of anyone having problems, nor is there any bugs open in e2fsprogs. Should we just flatly recommend ext3 in the manual? Or maybe something like One issue with ext3 (unless it has been fixed since I last noticed) is that it spins up the disk at regular intervals which may not be desirable on systems such as laptops. -- You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Processed: Re: Bug#171027: Netboot frozen
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Bug#171027: boot-floppies
reassign 171027 boot-floppies Does it means changing Subject: for boot floppies? Sorry, if not. It is just a cosmetical/technical thing in the bug tracking system. Not related to the subject. At Thu, 28 Nov 2002 07:58:34 +0100, Ruzsinszky Attila wrote: architecture: sparc model: SUN SparcStation 2 memory:64MB scsi: built in cd-rom:none network card: built in pcmcia:none. Hi, I want to boot over network. My machine got the tftpboot.img file from the TFTP server and started it. On the console I could see: Booting Linux ... ... and that's all! Isn't it just being slow ? I don't know. How long do I have to wait? a.out is waiting for ~10-20secs. I waited many minutes. I will check again. sparc2 is probably been known to be very slow? Also, you may want to try with potato boot images as well (if you've tried only woody images). I don't know if sparc2 has been well tested. regards, junichi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]