Re: Bug#361180: need new root.img and boot.img for further testing
severity 361180 important thanks mate On Sun, Apr 09, 2006 at 08:03:37PM -0400, Jack Carroll wrote: On Sun, Apr 09, 2006 at 11:08:51AM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: snip/ I have no clue what you are trying to tell. Please rephrase your original challenge. And send it to the mailinglist debian-boot@lists.debian.org The ML debian-boot@lists.debian.org is where development of debian-installer is discussed. It is the place where I saw this bugreport. OK, I'll restate it. In this bug report I'm testing the debian-installer boot floppy set, using the daily builds. The failure I identified is that the installer deletes the kernel after it installs it. The kernel does not re-appear anywhere else in the /target tree. I speculated that the reason for the error might be that the daily builds did not include a boot.img floppy, and the root.img and net-drivers.img that were provided might not be compatible with the Etch RC2 boot.img. Until that question can be answered, or there is a daily build that includes all the required floppy images, it doesn't seem useful to continue testing with floppies. http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/2006-04-06/floppy/ indeed misses boot.img. One directory deeper in http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/2006-04-06/floppy/access/ there is a boot.img, but also the cd-drivers.img and net-drivers.img that are in the directory with root.img. Where I'm a netbooting persoon, I had to lookup which floppies are needed. Reading http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s03.html | Next, use the command | | $ dd if=filename of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync | | where filename is one of the floppy disk image files | (see Section 4.2, Downloading Files from Debian Mirrors | for what filename should be). And Section 4.2 ( http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s02.html ) | 4.2. Downloading Files from Debian Mirrors | | To find the nearest (and thus probably the fastest) mirror, | see the list of Debian mirrors. | | When downloading files from a Debian mirror, | be sure to download the files in binary mode, | not text or automatic mode. | | 4.2.1. Where to Find Installation Images | | The installation images are located on each Debian mirror in the | directory debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/ | the MANIFEST lists each image and its purpose. is not really helpfull in preparation. At http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s01.html#floppy-boot there is | After booting from the boot floppy, the root floppy is requested. | Insert the root floppy and press Enter, and the contents are loaded into | memory. The installer program debian-installer is automatically launched. which mentions 'root' and 'boot' (but nothing about access floppies) I do now understand better what is meant by I speculated that the reason for the error might be that the daily builds did not include a boot.img floppy, and the root.img and net-drivers.img that were provided might not be compatible with the Etch RC2 boot.img. Until that question can be answered, or there is a daily build that includes all the required floppy images, it doesn't seem useful to continue testing with floppies. I have increased the severity of this bugreport. Cheers Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#361774: debian-installer-guide: which floppies to prepare
Package: debian-installer-manual Version: svn Severity: important Hello, This BR is a spin-off of #361180. Skip to the bottom of this message for the actual request. On Sun, Apr 09, 2006 at 08:03:37PM -0400, Jack Carroll wrote: I speculated that the reason for the error might be that the daily builds did not include a boot.img floppy, and the root.img and net-drivers.img that were provided might not be compatible with the Etch RC2 boot.img. Until that question can be answered, or there is a daily build that includes all the required floppy images, it doesn't seem useful to continue testing with floppies. http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/2006-04-06/floppy/ indeed misses boot.img. One directory deeper in http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/2006-04-06/floppy/access/ there is a boot.img, but also the cd-drivers.img and net-drivers.img that are in the directory with root.img. Where I'm a netbooting persoon, I had to lookup which floppies are needed. Reading http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s03.html | Next, use the command | | $ dd if=filename of=/dev/fd0 bs=1024 conv=sync ; sync | | where filename is one of the floppy disk image files | (see Section 4.2, Downloading Files from Debian Mirrors | for what filename should be). And Section 4.2 ( http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s02.html ) | 4.2. Downloading Files from Debian Mirrors | | To find the nearest (and thus probably the fastest) mirror, | see the list of Debian mirrors. | | When downloading files from a Debian mirror, | be sure to download the files in binary mode, | not text or automatic mode. | | 4.2.1. Where to Find Installation Images | | The installation images are located on each Debian mirror in the | directory debian/dists/etch/main/installer-i386/current/images/ | the MANIFEST lists each image and its purpose. is not really helpfull in preparation. At http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s01.html#floppy-boot there is | After booting from the boot floppy, the root floppy is requested. | Insert the root floppy and press Enter, and the contents are loaded into | memory. The installer program debian-installer is automatically launched. which mentions 'root' and 'boot' (but nothing about access floppies) Please document that there are three floppies need to be prepared. boot, root and cd-drivers or boot, root and net-drivers Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#361180: Debian installer doesn't install kernel
On Monday 10 April 2006 02:03, Jack Carroll wrote: I speculated that the reason for the error might be that the daily builds did not include a boot.img floppy, and the root.img and net-drivers.img that were provided might not be compatible with the Etch RC2 boot.img. Until that question can be answered, or there is a daily build that includes all the required floppy images, it doesn't seem useful to continue testing with floppies. No, the boot Beta 2 boot floppy should be usable with daily images. After all, that's all it does: boot the installer. I don't see how it could result in the installer deleting files near the end of the install. If it would have an effect, you would see it much earlier in the process. As I've said before, this is an extremely strange bug (quotes because I doubt it is a bug) which you'll probably have to trace yourself as I doubt anyone else will be able to reproduce it. To reproduce it, your best chance is to add a 'set -x' to /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-installer before it is run and study what the script is doing. The trace from the script will appear in /var/log/syslog. For Geert: access floppies are a totally different set of floppies from the regular ones (allow use of braille terminals for blind people). pgpVtQWbA6Awk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Install Manual
Hallo, ich würde gerne bei Übersetzungen helfen. Ich benutze Debian zu Hause und würde mich freuen, es unterstützen zu können. Außderdem bin ich gelernte Fremdsprachenkorrespondentin und würde so gerne mein Englisch auf aktuellem Stand halten. Ich freue mich schon auf eine Antwort. Gruß Franziska -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Manual
Quoting Franziska Schröder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hallo, ich würde gerne bei Übersetzungen helfen. Ich benutze Debian zu Hause und würde mich freuen, es unterstützen zu können. Außderdem bin ich gelernte Fremdsprachenkorrespondentin und würde so gerne mein Englisch auf aktuellem Stand halten. Ich freue mich schon auf eine Antwort. (proposal to help for German translation) Franziska, Sorry for answering in English but my German is a bit too far away... I suggest you get in touch with people in the debian-l10n-german mailing list if interested in German translations. I think that other German-speaking people will answer you as wellso, yes, you'll get eine Antwort, I think...:) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Install Manual
Hi Franziska, this is a English list so I answer (partly in) English. Am Montag, 10. April 2006 11:37 schrieb Franziska Schröder: ich würde gerne bei Übersetzungen helfen. It's really nice that you want to help translating Debian into German. I CC:ed the German list and we should discuss everything on this list (and in German :-). Dein Betreff enthält Install Manual, willst du dich darauf beschränken, oder bist du auch anderem gegenüber offen? Das Handbuch wird zur Zeit von Holger Wansing betreut und ist zu 94% komplett. Siehe auch http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/. Mhm, ich finde es da gar nicht ... Ach, ja, ich glaube es wurde nur entfernt weil es temporär nicht bei 100% ist. Siehe auch: http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals.de.html Holger, brauchst du Hilfe? Ich benutze Debian zu Hause und würde mich freuen, es unterstützen zu können. Kannst du. Siehe z.B. auch http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-german/2006/03/msg00061.html und weitere Wie kann ich helfen-Fragen auf der Liste. Außerdem bin ich gelernte Fremdsprachenkorrespondentin und würde so gerne mein Englisch auf aktuellem Stand halten. Aktive Übersetzungen sind dazu ideal und werden von uns sehr geschätzt. Ich freue mich schon auf eine Antwort. Und ich mich auch (manchmal verschwinden Interessenten einfach). Jens
Re: New directfb 0.9.24-1 with soname bumped
On Monday 10 April 2006 06:14, Guillem Jover wrote: Sure, feel free to upload and change the maintainer if it does not bother you (the udeb bug can be closed with your upload). OK. I have prepared the packages and am ready to upload. However, I think you will have to upload first as otherwise I would hijack the udeb and lib (their names are unchanged from current package) which would probably not be allowed. So please go ahead with that and I'll upload once your new version is in. pgpOmvUe3t8Td.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#361774: for the blind
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 11:56:27AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: For Geert: access floppies are a totally different set of floppies from the regular ones (allow use of braille terminals for blind people). Added to this BR. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian installer doesn't install kernel
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 11:56:27AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: No, the boot Beta 2 boot floppy should be usable with daily images. After all, that's all it does: boot the installer. I don't see how it could result in the installer deleting files near the end of the install. If it would have an effect, you would see it much earlier in the process. For a pair of root.img and boot.img visit http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/beta2/images/floppy/ (That doesn't solve the problem that boot.img is missing from the dailly build, it just allows to continue chasing this bug ) As I've said before, this is an extremely strange bug (quotes because I doubt it is a bug) which you'll probably have to trace yourself as I doubt anyone else will be able to reproduce it. To reproduce it, your best chance is to add a 'set -x' to /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-installer before it is run and study what the script is doing. The trace from the script will appear in /var/log/syslog. For setting the 'set -x' you will have to switch to VT2. The default editor in d-i is named 'nano' When you get an error on `nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-installer.postinst` then try later in the installation process. (the installer fetches some installer components (some files become later available)) Jack, When you got two copies of this E-mail, then you are subscribed to the mailinglist debian-boot@lists.debian.org the ML where the develop of d-i happens. ( http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/ has a webform for subscribtion ) Cheers Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New directfb 0.9.24-1 with soname bumped
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 01:57:23PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Monday 10 April 2006 06:14, Guillem Jover wrote: Sure, feel free to upload and change the maintainer if it does not bother you (the udeb bug can be closed with your upload). OK. I have prepared the packages and am ready to upload. However, I think you will have to upload first as otherwise I would hijack the udeb and lib (their names are unchanged from current package) which would probably not be allowed. So please go ahead with that and I'll upload once your new version is in. Just uploaded them. They will appear in incoming RSN. thanks, guillem -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Incomplete upload found in Debian upload queue
Probably you are the uploader of the following file(s) in the Debian upload queue directory: directfb-0.9-22_0.9.22-10.dsc directfb-0.9-22_0.9.22-10.tar.gz This looks like an upload, but a .changes file is missing, so the job cannot be processed. If no .changes file arrives within 23:25:08, the files will be deleted. If you didn't upload those files, please just ignore this message. Greetings, Your Debian queue daemon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#337011: marked as done (installation-guide: Please document the new ways to preseed root and user passwords)
Your message dated Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:26:18 +0200 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line #337011: installation-guide: Please document the new ways to preseed root and user passwords has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) ---BeginMessage--- Package: installation-guide Severity: normal Tags: patch The attached patch documents the password preseeding, including the new ways to preseed passwords as of shadow 4.0.13-1, which is now in testing. I'm not very used to the writing style of the Installation Guide. This is why I did not commit the change immediately as it probably needs a review. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.13-1-686 Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) (ignored: LC_ALL set to fr_FR.UTF-8) --- en/boot-new/modules/shadow.xml 2005-10-07 21:59:11.339037959 +0200 +++ en/boot-new/modules/shadow-new.xml 2005-11-02 08:13:06.791479900 +0100 @@ -65,5 +65,47 @@ account, use the commandadduser/command command. /para + /sect3 + sect3 id=password-preseeding + titlePreseeding passwords/title + +para + +Both the root and the first created user passwords can be +emphasispreseeded/emphasis during automated installs (see xref +linkend=automatic-install/). +/para + +para +The passwords can be preseeded in cleartext using the +classnamepasswd/root-password/classname, +classnamepasswd/root-password-again/classname, +classnamepasswd/user-password/classname and +classnamepasswd/user-password-again/classname values. Be aware +that this is not completely security-proof as everyone with physical +access to the preseed file will have the knowledge of these passwords. +/para + +para condition=etch +The passwords can also be preseeded as MD5 emphasishashes/emphasis +by using the classnamepasswd/root-password-crypted/classname and +classnamepasswd/user-password-crypted/classname variables. Thihs +method is considered slightly better in terms of security but not +completely proof as well because physical access to a MD5 /para hash +allows for brute force attacks. Some people even consider this method +can be less secure as it may give a false sense of security. +/para + +para condition=etch +The classnamepasswd/root-password-crypted/classname and +classnamepasswd/user-password-crypted/classname variables can be +preseeded with ! as value. In that case, the corresponding account +is disabled. This may be convenient for the root account, provided of +course that an alternate method is setup to allow administrative +activities or root login (for instance by using SSH key +authentication). +/para + + /sect2 ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Should have been closed long time ago... ---End Message---
Re: Level1 fixes
I did some more tests to spot errors in tzsetup (see [1]) Turns out that both pt and hu need to be fixed: ** *** pt *** ** #. Type: select #. Choices #. Timezones for CA. #. #. TRANSLATORS PLEASE NOTE: The msgid below looks strange because it is #. a list of filenames (in /usr/share/zoneinfo). Do not translate the filenames. #. Instead translate the English text which is displayed to the user instead #. of these filenames. Also, many place names will not need translation #. from the English text, but some parts may be translatable. #. #. The English text to translate for this list of timezones is: #. Newfoundland, Atlantic, Eastern, Central, East Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan, Mountain, Pacific, Yukon #: ../common.templates:69 msgid Canada/Newfoundland, Canada/Atlantic, Canada/Eastern, Canada/Central, Canada/East-Saskatchewan, Canada/Saskatchewan, Canada/Mountain, Canada/Pacific, Canada/Yukon msgstr Newfoundland, Atlantic, Eastern, Central, East-Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan, Mountain, Pacific ** *** hu *** ** #. Type: select #. Choices #. Timezones for AQ. #. #. TRANSLATORS PLEASE NOTE: The msgid below looks strange because it is #. a list of filenames (in /usr/share/zoneinfo). Do not translate the filenames. #. Instead translate the English text which is displayed to the user instead #. of these filenames. Also, many place names will not need translation #. from the English text, but some parts may be translatable. #. #. The English text to translate for this list of timezones is: #. McMurdo, south pole, Rothera, Palmer, Mawson, Davis, Casey, Vostok, Dumont-d'Urville, Syowa #: ../common.templates:18 msgid Antarctica/McMurdo, Antarctica/South_Pole, Antarctica/Rothera, Antarctica/Palmer, Antarctica/Mawson, Antarctica/Davis, Antarctica/Casey, Antarctica/Vostok, Antarctica/DumontDUrville, Antarctica/Syowa msgstr Antarctica/McMurdo, Antarctica/South_Pole, Antarctica/Rothera, Antarctica/Palmer, Antarctica/Mawson, Antarctica/Davis, Antarctica/Casey, Antarctica/Vostok, Antarctica/DumontDUrville, Antarctica/Syowa\n\nMcMurdo, Déli Sark, Rothera, Palmer, Mawson, Davis, Casey, Vosztok, Dumont-d'Urville, Syowa #. Type: select #. Choices #. Timezones for AU. #. #. TRANSLATORS PLEASE NOTE: The msgid below looks strange because it is #. a list of filenames (in /usr/share/zoneinfo). Do not translate the filenames. #. Instead translate the English text which is displayed to the user instead #. of these filenames. Also, many place names will not need translation #. from the English text, but some parts may be translatable. #. #. The English text to translate for this list of timezones is: #. Lord Howe Island, Hobart, Melbourne, Sydney, Broken Hill, Brisbane, Lindeman, Adelaide, Darwin, Perth #: ../common.templates:35 msgid Australia/Lord_Howe, Australia/Hobart, Australia/Melbourne, Australia/Sydney, Australia/Broken_Hill, Australia/Brisbane, Australia/Lindeman, Australia/Adelaide, Australia/Darwin, Australia/Perth msgstr Australia/Lord_Howe, Australia/Hobart, Australia/Melbourne, Australia/Sydney, Australia/Broken_Hill, Australia/Brisbane, Australia/Lindeman, Australia/Adelaide, Australia/Darwin, Australia/Perth\n\nLord Howe-sziget, Hobart, Melbourne, Sydney, Törött Domb, Brisbane, Lindeman, Adelaide, Darwin, Perth #. Type: select #. Choices #. Timezones for CA. #. #. TRANSLATORS PLEASE NOTE: The msgid below looks strange because it is #. a list of filenames (in /usr/share/zoneinfo). Do not translate the filenames. #. Instead translate the English text which is displayed to the user instead #. of these filenames. Also, many place names will not need translation #. from the English text, but some parts may be translatable. #. #. The English text to translate for this list of timezones is: #. Newfoundland, Atlantic, Eastern, Central, East Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan, Mountain, Pacific, Yukon #: ../common.templates:69 msgid Canada/Newfoundland, Canada/Atlantic, Canada/Eastern, Canada/Central, Canada/East-Saskatchewan, Canada/Saskatchewan, Canada/Mountain, Canada/Pacific, Canada/Yukon msgstr Canada/Newfoundland, Canada/Atlantic, Canada/Eastern, Canada/Central, Canada/East-Saskatchewan, Canada/Saskatchewan, Canada/Mountain, Canada/Pacific, Canada/Yukon\n\nÚjfundland, Atlanti, Keleti, Közép, Kelet Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan, Hegyi, Csendes-óceáni, Yukon #. Type: select #. Choices #. Timezones for CD. #. #. TRANSLATORS PLEASE NOTE: The msgid below looks strange because it is #. a list of filenames (in /usr/share/zoneinfo). Do not translate the filenames. #. Instead translate the English text which is displayed to the user instead #. of these filenames. Also, many place names will not need translation #. from the English text, but some parts may be translatable. #. #. The English text to translate for this list of timezones is: #. Kinshasa, Lubumbashi #: ../common.templates:85 msgid Africa/Kinshasa, Africa/Lubumbashi msgstr Africa/Kinshasa, Africa/Lubumbashi\n\nKinsasza,
Re: Bug#361180: Debian installer doesn't install kernel
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 03:11:58PM -0400, Jack Carroll wrote: That revealed the place where the files get deleted. I'll see if I can move the log to disk and attach it to this message. Just copying a few key items from the screen on the test machine: It happens at the 93% point in the log file. apt-install generates a large number of lines... Setting up discover1-data Setting up libdiscover1 Setting up discover1 base-installer: info: Installed discover1 successfully onto /target/ Reading package lists Building dependency tree Suggested packages: ifrename Recommended packages: usbutils pciutils The following packages will be REMOVED: initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-686 linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 udev The following NEW packages will be installed: hotplug GGeee!!! And then it goes on to remove those packages and their symbolic links. This sounds like an incorrect dependency. Yep ... All this was done with beta 2 floppies from the site you recommended, using the net-drivers floppy, and downloading installer components and packages from ftp.us.debian.org. I downloaded a current netinst CD image from the devel site last night, burned it to a CD-RW, and did a network install on a different set of partitions (dev/hda3 and /dev/hda7). That worked, and didn't delete the kernel. So this problem happens only when booting the installer from floppies. I'm glad^Whappy that you took time to reproduce the error you encountered. Apr 10 17:26:55 syslogd started: BusyBox v1.01 (Debian 1:1.01-4) bigsnip/ Apr 10 18:01:08 main-menu[345]: (process:25127): + db_progress SET 137 Apr 10 18:01:08 main-menu[345]: (process:25127): + _db_cmd PROGRESS SET 137 Apr 10 18:01:08 main-menu[345]: (proce Apr 10 18:01:08 apt-install: Reading package lists... Apr 10 18:01:08 apt-install: Building dependency tree... Apr 10 18:01:09 apt-install: Apr 10 18:01:09 apt-install: The following extra packages will be installed: Apr 10 18:01:09 apt-install: discover1-data libdiscover1 Apr 10 18:01:09 apt-install: The following NEW packages will be installed: Apr 10 18:01:09 apt-install: discover1 discover1-data libdiscover1 Apr 10 18:01:09 apt-install: 0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Apr 10 18:01:09 apt-install: Need to get 275kB of archives. Apr 10 18:01:09 apt-install: After unpacking 995kB of additional disk space will be used. Apr 10 18:01:09 apt-install: Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main discover1-data 1.2006.01.14 [107kB] Apr 10 18:01:10 apt-install: Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main libdiscover1 1.7.17 [99.0kB] Apr 10 18:01:10 apt-install: Get:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main discover1 1.7.17 [68.2kB] Apr 10 18:01:11 apt-install: Fetched 275kB in 0s (338kB/s) Apr 10 18:01:11 apt-install: Selecting previously deselected package discover1-data. Apr 10 18:01:11 apt-install: (Reading database ... 10376 files and directories currently installed.) Apr 10 18:01:11 apt-install: Unpacking discover1-data (from .../discover1-data_1.2006.01.14_all.deb) ... Apr 10 18:01:11 apt-install: Selecting previously deselected package libdiscover1. Apr 10 18:01:11 apt-install: Unpacking libdiscover1 (from .../libdiscover1_1.7.17_i386.deb) ... Apr 10 18:01:12 apt-install: Selecting previously deselected package discover1. Apr 10 18:01:12 apt-install: Unpacking discover1 (from .../discover1_1.7.17_i386.deb) ... Apr 10 18:01:12 apt-install: Setting up discover1-data (1.2006.01.14) ... Apr 10 18:01:12 apt-install: Setting up libdiscover1 (1.7.17) ... Apr 10 18:01:13 apt-install: Apr 10 18:01:13 apt-install: Setting up discover1 (1.7.17) ... Apr 10 18:01:13 apt-install: Apr 10 18:01:13 base-installer: info: Installed discover1 successfully into /target/ Apr 10 18:01:13 apt-install: Reading package lists... Apr 10 18:01:13 apt-install: Apr 10 18:01:13 apt-install: Building dependency tree... Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: Suggested packages: Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: ifrename Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: Recommended packages: Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: usbutils pciutils Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: The following packages will be REMOVED: Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: initramfs-tools linux-image-2.6-686 linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 udev Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: The following NEW packages will be installed: Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: hotplug Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: Need to get 66.7kB of archives. Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: After unpacking 46.1MB disk space will be freed. Apr 10 18:01:14 apt-install: Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main hotplug 0.0.20040329-25 [66.7kB] Apr 10 18:01:16 apt-install: Preconfiguring packages ... Apr 10 18:01:17 apt-install: Fetched 66.7kB in 0s (164kB/s) Apr 10 18:01:17
Re: Debian installer doesn't install kernel
I have some time today, so I'll resume work on the problem. You two gentlemen seem to stay up amazingly late at night. On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 02:55:32PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 11:56:27AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: For a pair of root.img and boot.img visit http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/beta2/images/floppy/ I will do that first. Maybe we'll be extremely lucky, and downloading a set of 3 self-consistent floppies will make the problem go away. (That doesn't solve the problem that boot.img is missing from the dailly build, it just allows to continue chasing this bug ) As I've said before, this is an extremely strange bug (quotes because I doubt it is a bug) which you'll probably have to trace yourself as I doubt anyone else will be able to reproduce it. To reproduce it, your best chance is to add a 'set -x' to /var/lib/dpkg/info/base-installer before it is run and study what the script is doing. The trace from the script will appear in /var/log/syslog. I assume that you want me to mail /var/log/syslog to you after the test run. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#361180: Debian installer doesn't install kernel
reassign 361180 base-installer retitle Selecting 2.6 kernel when installing using 2.4 will break install thanks On Monday 10 April 2006 21:11, Jack Carroll wrote: That revealed the place where the files get deleted. I'll see if I can move the log to disk and attach it to this message. Just copying a few key items from the screen on the test machine: It happens at the 93% point in the log file. apt-install generates a large number of lines... OK. This information has been in the syslog all the time. We would not have had to activate the debugging for this. The root of the problem is that you are installing from floppy which uses the 2.4 kernel and therefore schedules the package hotplug for installation. When you get to kernel installation, you choose to ignore the offered default 2.4 kernel and instead select a 2.6 kernel. The 2.6 kernel depends on udev which conflicts with hotplug which results in the kernel being uninstalled. So, if you'd just accept the 2.4 kernel offered by default, the installation will go fine. You can upgrade to a 2.6 kernel after the installation finishes. If you'd just done a default installation instead of choosing expert mode, none of this would have happened. However, Thanks for staying with this as it has laid bare something we should not allow users to do. Cheers, FJP Note for BR history. A few mails exchanged for this issue were not sent to the bug report. They can be found in the d-boot list (9/10 april 2006). Note for resolution. There are two issues here: - We should probably no longer allow selection of a 2.4 kernel when running 2.6 and vice versa. - We should probably not allow apt-install to remove packages that are installed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Level1 fixes
Hi Miguel, On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 09:11:08PM +0100, Miguel Figueiredo wrote: #: ../common.templates:69 msgid Canada/Newfoundland, Canada/Atlantic, Canada/Eastern, Canada/Central, Canada/ East-Saskatchewan, Canada/Saskatchewan, Canada/Mountain, Canada/Pacific, Canada/Yukon msgstr Newfoundland, Atlantic, Eastern, Central, East-Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan, Mountain, Pacific, Yukon Correct? yes, it's fixed now: thanx Davide signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Bug#361180: Debian installer doesn't install kernel
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:20:36PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: reassign 361180 base-installer retitle Selecting 2.6 kernel when installing using 2.4 will break install thanks On Monday 10 April 2006 21:11, Jack Carroll wrote: That revealed the place where the files get deleted. I'll see if I can move the log to disk and attach it to this message. Just copying a few key items from the screen on the test machine: It happens at the 93% point in the log file. apt-install generates a large number of lines... OK. This information has been in the syslog all the time. We would not have had to activate the debugging for this. The root of the problem is that you are installing from floppy which uses the 2.4 kernel and therefore schedules the package hotplug for installation. When you get to kernel installation, you choose to ignore the offered default 2.4 kernel and instead select a 2.6 kernel. The 2.6 kernel depends on udev which conflicts with hotplug which results in the kernel being uninstalled. So, if you'd just accept the 2.4 kernel offered by default, the installation will go fine. You can upgrade to a 2.6 kernel after the installation finishes. OK, I'll test that now. If you'd just done a default installation instead of choosing expert mode, none of this would have happened. However, Thanks for staying with this as it has laid bare something we should not allow users to do. Well, expert mode is offered because it's needed sometimes. So it should work. Similarly, if the installer offers to install the 2.6 kernel, it should succeed. And, if a a combination of settings is possible, somebody will try it. It should either work or display a useful error message. So, we do beta tests to find out whether something unexpected happens. Mission accomplished. Several solutions are possible. If you want to force 2.6 to be installed only as an upgrade after installation is finished, one possibility would be to display a message when the user selects a kernel, with advice to upgrade the kernel after re-boot. However, this could lead to some other problems. The way network boards are configured differs between 2.4 and 2.6 kernels. 2.4 uses /etc/modules.conf, while 2.6 uses /etc/modules to load driver modules for boards that can't be autodetected, such as most ISA boards. The syntax and the configuration tools are different. If I remember right, some driver modules have different parameter syntax for 2.4 and 2.6. So unless there are some pretty sophisticated scripts for converting module and network configuration, a network interface that netcfg generates during installation with a 2.4 kernel might break when the kernel is upgraded to 2.6. I don't see any particular reason why an installer shouldn't run under a 2.4 kernel, but is there a reason why floppy installers and CD installers use different kernels? (I think I remember working with an installer that offered a choice of install-time kernels, but I don't remember what distro that was. Might have been Libranet 3.0.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#361180: Selecting 2.6 kernel when installing using 2.4 will break install
retitle 361180 base-installer: Selecting 2.6 kernel when installing using 2.4 will break install severity 361180 normal thanks On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:20:36PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: snip/ If you'd just done a default installation instead of choosing expert mode, none of this would have happened. However, Thanks for staying with this as it has laid bare something we should not allow users to do. My opinion: This bugreport made an expert become more expert Cheers, FJP Note for resolution. There are two issues here: - We should probably no longer allow selection of a 2.4 kernel when running 2.6 and vice versa. - We should probably not allow apt-install to remove packages that are installed. My Emotional point of view: Blocking doing stupid things will block doing smart things. My Rational point of view: Let it go Cheers Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: r36274 - in trunk/packages/debian-installer-utils: . debian
On Monday 10 April 2006 23:47, Frans Pop wrote: --- trunk/packages/debian-installer-utils/apt-install (original) +++ trunk/packages/debian-installer-utils/apt-install export DEBIAN_FRONTEND ERRCODE=0 -log-output -t apt-install chroot /target apt-get -y install $@ /dev/null || ERRCODE=$? +log-output -t apt-install chroot /target apt-get -y --no-remove install $@ /dev/null || ERRCODE=$? chroot_cleanup if [ $ERRCODE != 0 ]; then I'm not completely sure about this patch. In theory it could break installs when apt-setup is called after base-installer has run if sources added by apt-setup contain packages with e.g. ABI upgrades which makes it necessary to remove the old lib while installing the new. So, what's the best option: - ignore the issue in #361870 and just let apt-install remove the kernel (i.e. revert this change); - only use --no-remove when apt-install is called while installing extra packages in base-installer; - keep the patch as is. pgpFWAwCUYYSl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#361180: Debian installer doesn't install kernel
Please do not reply to all. I had set a correct reply-to header for my previous mail. In general: please only reply to the bug report ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). On Monday 10 April 2006 23:36, Jack Carroll wrote: I don't see any particular reason why an installer shouldn't run under a 2.4 kernel, but is there a reason why floppy installers and CD installers use different kernels? Reason is that so far we've not been able to fit a 2.6 kernel and everything else we absolutely need on a floppy. Work is in progress at the moment to make that happen though. The reason that the builds for the boot floppy are currently broken is that just before Beta2 a new libc made the image too large even with the 2.4 kernel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#361872: debconf-copydb: Trashes debconf database in /target
Package: cdebconf Version: 0.97 Severity: serious When debconf-copydb is run from pkgsel's postinst script, it deletes the existing /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat in /target; after it has run only copied templates are present. This results in the problem that has been reported that tasksel is not translated. Commenting out the debconf-copydb statement solves this problem. Verified with Etch Beta 2. pgpQz7XGDU8PL.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Bug#361180: Debian installer doesn't install kernel
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:20:36PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: So, if you'd just accept the 2.4 kernel offered by default, the installation will go fine. You can upgrade to a 2.6 kernel after the installation finishes. This procedure worked with a PCI network board (3c59x). The interface came up and acquired a DHCP lease after re-booting into 2.6. With an ISA-PNP board (3c509) the interface didn't come up after re-booting into 2.4. There was a string of error messages when it tried. Apparently something wasn't configured right. Material for a separate bug report. But modprobe 3c509 xcvr=3 ifup eth0 worked. Installed 2.6 and rebooted. The ISA-PNP board came up correctly. OK, we have another problem here. The floppy disk installer requires that a 2.4 kernel be installed, but it configures an ISA-PNP Ethernet board so it will only work under a 2.6 kernel. (Why am I not surprised?) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why isn't tasksel localized?
On Sunday 09 April 2006 10:01, Christian Perrier wrote: It's been a while since tasksel is no more localized (at least when shown to users...of course, it's i18n'ed)). Issue traced, see #361872. pgpCPcXXHuE2E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: r36274 - in trunk/packages/debian-installer-utils: . debian
On Tuesday 11 April 2006 00:03, Frans Pop wrote: I'm not completely sure about this patch. In theory it could break installs when apt-setup is called after base-installer has run if sources added by apt-setup contain packages with e.g. ABI upgrades which makes it necessary to remove the old lib while installing the new. OTOH, apt-install failing won't result in the install failing, so maybe this change is sane after all. Will just leave an update for after the installation is finished. pgpg9xBvbAs9r.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#361180: Debian installer doesn't install kernel
You're still replying to all kinds of addresses you don't need to... On Tuesday 11 April 2006 01:05, Jack Carroll wrote: modprobe 3c509 xcvr=3 ifup eth0 Now this _is_ a valid reason to use expert install. That will give you the option to enter module parameters which should still be used after the reboot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#361180: Debian installer doesn't install kernel
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 11:55:26PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Please do not reply to all. I had set a correct reply-to header for my previous mail. In general: please only reply to the bug report ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). OK. On Monday 10 April 2006 23:36, Jack Carroll wrote: I don't see any particular reason why an installer shouldn't run under a 2.4 kernel, but is there a reason why floppy installers and CD installers use different kernels? Reason is that so far we've not been able to fit a 2.6 kernel and everything else we absolutely need on a floppy. Work is in progress at the moment to make that happen though. The reason that the builds for the boot floppy are currently broken is that just before Beta2 a new libc made the image too large even with the 2.4 kernel. It sounds as though further testing with the floppies won't be useful until that's solved. Do you want to let me know when I can help again? I'll shift effort into the 2.6 kernel problem I uncovered. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Level1 fixes
#: ../common.templates:69 msgid Canada/Newfoundland, Canada/Atlantic, Canada/Eastern, Canada/Central, Canada/ East-Saskatchewan, Canada/Saskatchewan, Canada/Mountain, Canada/Pacific, Canada/Yukon msgstr Newfoundland, Atlantic, Eastern, Central, East-Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan, Mountain, Pacific, Yukon Correct? Davide Viti wrote: I did some more tests to spot errors in tzsetup (see [1]) Turns out that both pt and hu need to be fixed: ** *** pt *** ** #. Type: select #. Choices #. Timezones for CA. #. #. TRANSLATORS PLEASE NOTE: The msgid below looks strange because it is #. a list of filenames (in /usr/share/zoneinfo). Do not translate the filenames. #. Instead translate the English text which is displayed to the user instead #. of these filenames. Also, many place names will not need translation #. from the English text, but some parts may be translatable. #. #. The English text to translate for this list of timezones is: #. Newfoundland, Atlantic, Eastern, Central, East Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan, Mountain, Pacific, Yukon #: ../common.templates:69 msgid Canada/Newfoundland, Canada/Atlantic, Canada/Eastern, Canada/Central, Canada/East-Saskatchewan, Canada/Saskatchewan, Canada/Mountain, Canada/Pacific, Canada/Yukon msgstr Newfoundland, Atlantic, Eastern, Central, East-Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan, Mountain, Pacific [...] regards, Davide [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-i18n/2006/01/msg00041.html -- --- Melhores cumprimentos/Best regards, Miguel Figueiredo http://www.DebianPT.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Level1 fixes
Quoting Miguel Figueiredo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): #: ../common.templates:69 msgid Canada/Newfoundland, Canada/Atlantic, Canada/Eastern, Canada/Central, Canada/ East-Saskatchewan, Canada/Saskatchewan, Canada/Mountain, Canada/Pacific, Canada/Yukon msgstr Newfoundland, Atlantic, Eastern, Central, East-Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan, Mountain, Pacific, Yukon Correct? Yes. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Level1 fixes in Hungarian translation
** *** hu *** ** It appears that the translations still were containing pasted values from the msgid. I have corrected this. Portuguese has already been fixed by Superfast Miguel. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#361180: Debian installer doesn't install kernel
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