Modifying Debian install floppies to install Ubuntu
Here is my problem. I have a laptop with a floppy drive and a network connection. I do not have a CD-ROM drive. If you use the CD-ROM to install Debian/Ubuntu you are presented with a prompt to type commands in prior to installing. If you use the Debian install floppies you are also presented with this prompt to type commands in. However Ubuntu do not provide these floppies. I have asked a number of times on the Ubuntu support forums but there seems to be an lack of 'something' so people do not know/care etc about floppies. I have managed to do a net install of the full distro on my laptop, but I do not want the full distro, I only want to install the base system and then pick and choose from then on. I thought the best place to ask about modifying the Debian disks would be the Debian list, so here goes. How do I take the Debian install floppies and mod them so that they install Ubuntu instead? Is this possible? I've looked at the boot and root floppies and I cannot find where it points towards a Debian server to download the initial set of files. Can anyone help me out? Thanks MM -- ___ Play 100s of games for FREE! http://games.mail.com/
Re: Modifying Debian install floppies to install Ubuntu
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:58:54AM -0500, Mr Mop wrote: Here is my problem. I have a laptop with a floppy drive and a network connection. I do not have a CD-ROM drive. If you use the CD-ROM to install Debian/Ubuntu you are presented with a prompt to type commands in prior to installing. If you use the Debian install floppies you are also presented with this prompt to type commands in. However Ubuntu do not provide these floppies. I have asked a number of times on the Ubuntu support forums but there seems to be an lack of 'something' so people do not know/care etc about floppies. I have managed to do a net install of the full distro on my laptop, but I do not want the full distro, I only want to install the base system and then pick and choose from then on. I thought the best place to ask about modifying the Debian disks would be the Debian list, so here goes. How do I take the Debian install floppies and mod them so that they install Ubuntu instead? Is this possible? I've looked at the boot and root floppies and I cannot find where it points towards a Debian server to download the initial set of files. Can anyone help me out? At http://bugs.debian.org/381311 are some pointers about install floppies. Something else: I think that Debian (net) install fits original poster needs, because it does not a full distro install by default. Cheers Geert Stappers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#380650: Running aptitude demands the Install disk to be reinserted
#On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 01:55:56PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: # Clive Menzies wrote: # Having completed a successful base installation, I thought I'd add X # etc. Everytime I install stuff it asks for the disk. Commenting out # the cdrom in the sources.list makes it OK. However, a newcomer to # Debian may take a while to work it out. I guess only installing the # base system missed the step which removed the cdrom from the # sources.list? # # I thought that apt only required a CD be inserted if whatever you asked # it to do involved installing packages that were present on that CD. If # this isn't the case for apt (or aptitude) can you please provide a # transcript showing them prompting for a CD and then not actually using # it? reopen 380650 tags 380650 moreinfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: #On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 01:55:56PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: # Clive Menzies wrote: # Having completed a successful base installation, I thought I'd add X # etc. Everytime I install stuff it asks for the disk. Commenting out # the cdrom in the sources.list makes it OK. However, a newcomer to # Debian may take a while to work it out. I guess only installing the # base system missed the step which removed the cdrom from the # sources.list? # # I thought that apt only required a CD be inserted if whatever you asked # it to do involved installing packages that were present on that CD. If # this isn't the case for apt (or aptitude) can you please provide a # transcript showing them prompting for a CD and then not actually using # it? reopen 380650 Bug#380650: Successful Installation beta3 amd64 Bug reopened, originator not changed. tags 380650 moreinfo Bug#380650: Successful Installation beta3 amd64 There were no tags set. Tags added: moreinfo End of message, stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PowerPC miBoot floppy build is broken again
Hi, On Thursday 03 August 2006 12:32, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I don't think it's something at my end, though, rather than changes in svn which broke the build. Anyone on -boot care to comment? this seems to be #379878, which is fixed, so I think Wouter only needs to upgrade rsrce on his buildd. regards, Holger pgp8cM4MSZ9tP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: General question
Hi, On Tuesday 01 August 2006 17:16, Eddy Petrişor wrote: 1. In the past I discovered the project FAI by Thomas Lange and changed it to the possibility to install not as Thomas` version Debian sarge, but Debian etch (and sid,too). Everything worked just fine. So my idea was, to implement this famous tool into the installer as an option, to get a fast installation for newcomers. I imagine it as a standard installation, where the newbie will get a ready system, which he only has to fine tune. What do you think, should this kind of option be integrated in the future There is preseeding which should automate installations for as many cases as you may want. Exactly. I use preseeding to automatically install the fai package and then do the rest of the package installation and configuration via FAI. Works great! The integration could be made nicer (use preseeding to configure and execute fai), but that would just mean a different syntax in the preseeding file :) regards, Holger pgpUi5NBWUoRD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PowerPC miBoot floppy build is broken again
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:02:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Thursday 03 August 2006 12:32, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I don't think it's something at my end, though, rather than changes in svn which broke the build. Anyone on -boot care to comment? this seems to be #379878, which is fixed, so I think Wouter only needs to upgrade rsrce on his buildd. Just did that. If that is indeed the issue, the next build (which will start in two hours and be finished some time later) will work again. Thanks! -- Fun will now commence -- Seven Of Nine, Ashes to Ashes, stardate 53679.4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#381443: Debian Installer on Toshiba Satellite 4310 laptop
Package: installation-reports Boot method: Netinst CD Image version: Etch beta 2 Date: 2 August 2006 Machine: Toshiba Satellite 4310 laptop Processor: Celeron 600 Memory: 128 Mb Partitions: hda1 (fat32) hda2 (ext3) hda3 (swap) Output of lspci and lspci -n: lspci not available (base install) Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot worked:[OK] Configure network HW: [OK on install, not OK after reboot] Config network: [same as above ] Detect CD: [OK ] Load installer modules: [OK ] Detect hard drives: [OK ] Partition hard drives: [OK ] Create file systems:[OK ] Mount partitions: [OK ] Install base system:[OK ] Install boot loader:[OK ] Reboot: [OK ] Comments/Problems: Everything fine during install, network is recognised and configured perfectly (Xircom PCMCIA 10/100 and 56k modem). However, after first reboot, networking is gone. Dmesg shows the following message : serial_cs: no usable port range found, giving up I have no /dev/eth0. It seems the card is not detected at boot up. Everytime I reboot I must unplug and plug the network card back in to get things working. FYI, Google search indicates that Ubuntu Dapper has the same problem. The problem has been around since the first release of the Etch installer. The problem does not occur with Sarge. Regards, Anastasios Ikonomou
Re: partman chokes on partitionable md arrays
[Sorry for taking so long to respond, your reply had landed in my spam bucket. CC'ed to the mdadm maintainer, who might be interested.] Looks like you're trying to do something that is just not supported. In general the installer does not support direct partitioning of a software raid device. Oh, it's possible ... like this: (This is from memory, the installer options may be named differently) 1. detect harddisks 2. partition disks 3. immediately exit partition disks again (otherwise the RAID will build very slowly) 4. switch to console and create your array using mdadm 5. partition disks again It will complain about not being able to find /dev/md/_d0. Do not cancel but 6. symlink /dev/md/_d0 to /dev/md_d0 (if you symlink before you get the error it won't work, possibly the error will infinite-loop, and partman's state will be corrupted) 7. hit retry you should now have the partman overview with /dev/md_d0 and /dev/md/_d0. As you can see, partman works absolutely fine if you can work around its brain-dead device classification by parsing the dev node name. Whoever thought that's a good idea, please speak up. What's wrong with detection over sysfs? 8. partition /dev/md_d0 9. carry on with installation 10. right before the end chroot to the installed system. 11. if you use sata install a working kernel image 2.6.15-2.6.17 and possibly earlier ones have horribly broken sata error-reporting support. If a disk fails, md will not be able to detect the failiure - any access to the affected array will just hang the process. I've been bitten by this using an ICH7-R in AHCI mode and sata-uli, other drivers may or may not be fine. There's a libata-tj-stable patch for 2.6.17.4 that has worked well for me. 12. follow the steps outlined here to get the box to boot: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=377801 What's wrong with using LVM on RAID? Nothing except that - I don't need to resize the partitions - I don't need an added layer for reasons of complexity - I don't need an added layer for reasons of performance - I can't stick one member of a mirror in a random other Linux box and get at the data If you can give us very good reasons (your various reasons won't really convince anybody, you'll have to be much more specific) why such a partitioning scheme should be supported _and_ you can can point to documentation that says your naming scheme is generally accepted, I guess you could file a wishlist bug report against partman-md. Now that's an excellent attitude. I'd rather file a whishlist bug against the BTS for a maintainer pseudo-package, really :) However, I very much doubt it would get supported anytime soon unless you provide patches yourself. Probably not only for partman, but also for bootloader installers, initrd generators and various other utilities... The only reason it doesn't work out of the box is because the installer is, from a user perspective, extremely unflexible. Being able to add modules easily is great and all ... partman makes assumptions about devices based solely on the name of the device node, thus unnecessarily restrictiong it to known types of block devices. That's got nothing to do with supported or not - that's a bug. I shouldn't wonder if that breaks lots of other use-cases. As I said, traversing /sys/block would be a better way. C. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#380586: Package: installation-reports
2006/8/1, Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 09:48:18PM +0800, laowb(raul); wrote: Now i am going to try another one from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/Cool!Please inform the/this bugreport about the progress.I have tried this one http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta2/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso,successfully installed a base system, now that I have a full Sarge installer cd, i want to install a desktop enviroment by using it rather than download a full Etch iso (if i could access a debian cd vendor here, I'd like to buy a set.) I don't know if it could be as my thought, anyway I tried this: vi /etc/apt/sources.list, disable two http mirro sourcesput the Sarge cd inapt-cdrom add -d /media/cdrom1 I checked sources.list had beed added two cdrom rowstasksel, select desktop enviroment but it failed back to console. Is there any choices for me to install an desktop env except download a whole iso again? Thanks for your time!best wishesLaowb
Re: r39563 - in trunk/packages/debian-installer-utils: .
Colin Watson wrote:
* Add locking to chroot-setup.sh, since people sometimes try to run two
parallel instances of apt-install or in-target and that breaks horribly.
Modified: trunk/packages/debian-installer-utils/chroot-setup.sh
==
--- trunk/packages/debian-installer-utils/chroot-setup.sh (original)
+++ trunk/packages/debian-installer-utils/chroot-setup.sh Fri Aug 4
08:43:20 2006
@@ -6,6 +6,16 @@
}
chroot_setup () {
+ if [ -e /var/run/chroot-setup.lock ]; then
+ cat 2 EOF
+apt-install or in-target is already running, so you cannot run either of
+them again until the other instance finishes. You may be able to use
+'chroot /target ...' instead.
+EOF
+ exit 1
+ fi
+ touch /var/run/chroot-setup.lock
+
What creates /var/run in the installer? Wasn't aware we had one..
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Bug#381258: Acknowledgement (install report etchbeta)
Brian Morris wrote: hi, i wish to add another block of comment. concerning laptop task and power management utilities. the installer identified my machine correctly as a laptop and i allowed it to install this task. it installed two utilities i have never seen on my mac laptops and it left out the two i am used to see. the two unfamiliar, unexpected were hibernate and apm-emulate. There is no package called apm-emulate in the archive. Many people like to put their laptops to sleep, so hibernate is a fairly useful choice. the two missing were pmud and pbbuttonsd (there are more besides too i think that support these). We need to get hw-detect 1.40 into testing; then pbbuttonsd will be installed again. I'd be happy to add pmud if it's safe to install on all powerpc laptop hardware. another reason why i would have to not trust this installer. I'm going to assume this is hyperbole and ignore it. You installed using a daily developmental build of an installer; if you're not prepared for problems you're not using the correct version of the software. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: r39563 - in trunk/packages/debian-installer-utils: .
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 11:37:56AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: What creates /var/run in the installer? Wasn't aware we had one.. $ dpkg -c /mirror/debian/pool/main/r/rootskel/rootskel_1.33_i386.udeb | grep var drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-06-30 14:23:41 ./var/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-06-30 14:23:41 ./var/lib/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-06-30 14:23:41 ./var/lib/apt-install/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-06-30 14:23:41 ./var/run/ drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-06-30 14:23:41 ./var/log/ -rw-r--r-- root/root 0 2006-06-30 14:23:41 ./var/log/messages Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What version of the kernel in latest testing/etch netinst installer
Does the latest (i.e. from daily builds) testing/etch netinst image include the 2.6.17.7 kernel image? I am asking because this version of the kernel (currently the latest stable/release available) includes the fix for the XFS filesystem corruption bug that recently crept into the 2.6.* kernels. Please CC: me on all replies as I am not subscribed to this list. Thanks! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What version of the kernel in latest testing/etch netinst installer
On Friday 04 August 2006 19:14, asdf wrote: Does the latest (i.e. from daily builds) testing/etch netinst image include the 2.6.17.7 kernel image? I am asking because this version of the kernel (currently the latest stable/release available) includes the fix for the XFS filesystem corruption bug that recently crept into the 2.6.* kernels. No, current images use 2.6.16. We expect to switch to 2.6.17 after the release of the Etch Beta 3 release for the installer which is currently being prepared. pgpSbX15HkDFu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What version of the kernel in latest testing/etch netinst installer
--- Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, current images use 2.6.16. We expect to switch to 2.6.17 after the release of the Etch Beta 3 release for the installer which is currently being prepared. Which of the 2.6.16 point releases is being used in the current images? Thanks! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What version of the kernel in latest testing/etch netinst installer
(Please don't CC me, I _am_ subscribed to the list.) On Friday 04 August 2006 20:21, asdf wrote: Which of the 2.6.16 point releases is being used in the current images? See the changelog for the linux-2.6.16 source package. pgpxypM4QFcS3.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: PowerPC miBoot floppy build is broken again
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:18:44PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:02:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Thursday 03 August 2006 12:32, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I don't think it's something at my end, though, rather than changes in svn which broke the build. Anyone on -boot care to comment? this seems to be #379878, which is fixed, so I think Wouter only needs to upgrade rsrce on his buildd. Just did that. If that is indeed the issue, the next build (which will start in two hours and be finished some time later) will work again. Hi Wouter I do have some script which auto-upgrades the packages to a point (doesn't work with things like the library abi changes, which is what ended up in Frans kicking me out, so beware), if it could be useful to you, i would be glade to provide it. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#381099: New openoffice.org-help-xx packages. Please include them in tasksel tasks
Hi, Christian Perrier wrote: The following openoffice.org-help-* packages recently appeared and should be included in the relevant language-desktop tasks: [...] done. I didn't make the changes directly in the SVN because last changes in tasksel have shown that more coordination with the OOo team might be needed...and also because I leave for holidays..-) Well, I personally don't mind. In fact, I had made those changes in my svn at the same time I did enable those packages in OOo but forgot to commit it ;-) Regards, Rene signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: PowerPC miBoot floppy build is broken again
On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 10:08:15PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:18:44PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:02:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Thursday 03 August 2006 12:32, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I don't think it's something at my end, though, rather than changes in svn which broke the build. Anyone on -boot care to comment? this seems to be #379878, which is fixed, so I think Wouter only needs to upgrade rsrce on his buildd. Just did that. If that is indeed the issue, the next build (which will start in two hours and be finished some time later) will work again. Hi Wouter I do have some script which auto-upgrades the packages to a point (doesn't work with things like the library abi changes, which is what ended up in Frans kicking me out, so beware), if it could be useful to you, i would be glade to provide it. I prefer to manually upgrade packages. I've seen too much going wrong with auto-upgrades while maintaining buildd to trust that on unstable ;-) Thanks for the offer, though. -- Fun will now commence -- Seven Of Nine, Ashes to Ashes, stardate 53679.4 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#381518: feature request
Package: installation-reports Boot method: CD Image version: 'Etch' from August 3, 2006 Date: August 5, 2006 Machine: IBM Thinkpad T60 Processor: Pentium M Memory: 1,5 GB Partitions: Output of lspci and lspci -n: Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot worked:[O] Configure network HW: [O] Config network: [O] Detect CD: [O] Load installer modules: [O] Detect hard drives: [O] Partition hard drives: [ ] Create file systems:[ ] Mount partitions: [ ] Install base system:[ ] Install boot loader:[ ] Reboot: [ ] Comments/Problems: This is a feature request. I tried to use the first 'etch' CD as rescue boot system for a server system which went limbo. My hope was that only keyboard / mouse input was blocked and i could still ssh or telnet into it. So this is not about recovering a system on the same machine, but on a remote one. I'm talking about the stage when network is configured, but no base system is installed yet. (Before the reboot) So far the installer worked well, but i there were no ssh or telnet included. Not even ping. Maybe that's ok, for an installer on CD. However, i think it would be a nice feature to be able, once the network is established, to load additional packages from the net into RAM to be able to do any task that comes around. Yes, that would be _very_ handy. Greetings, Micha ( -- Or maybe i just didn't find the feature...?) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
