Re: Driver injection disk debconf templates in D-I

2010-05-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
 On Sunday 30 May 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
  Maybe use hardware vendor instead of OEM. Using just hardware does
  lose information as the essence is that the drivers are provided by the
  vendor, not by the distro.
 
 Or maybe better hardware manufacturer.


(re-adding -l10n-english)

_Description: Detect hardware manufacturer driver injection disks

That fits (menu item entries are limited in size).

Justin proposed -supplied  in this thread which could turn into:

_Description: Detect hardware manufacturer-supplied driver injection disks

60 characters is, IIRC, OK for menu entries (if nothing changed, the
limit is 65)

Any preference? I personnally prefer the first solution as supplied
in the second one is related to hardware manufacturer, but the dash
only links it to manufacturer which makes things look a little bit
weird, IMHO.

I committed the first choice as of now. We have until Tuesday to
finally settle on this (l10n sync run).



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Bug#583650: hw-detect: Too high priority for driver-injection-disk/load template?

2010-05-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen (p...@hungry.com):
 
 tags 583650 + patch
 thanks

Of course, I personnally agree with that change..:-)...So, is there
any reason not to commit it?

I would say: if someone has objection, speak now or forever hold your
peace...

(I had to google around to fid the right expressionDebian
development is good to learn good English...:-))



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Re: Driver injection disk debconf templates in D-I

2010-05-30 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 30 May 2010, Christian PERRIER wrote:
 _Description: Detect hardware manufacturer driver injection disks

1) Phrasing is convoluted.
2) IIUC they are not necessarily disks?
3) What exactly is injection here?

So maybe:
Detect device driver media from hardware manufacturer


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Re: Driver injection disk debconf templates in D-I

2010-05-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
 On Sunday 30 May 2010, Christian PERRIER wrote:
  _Description: Detect hardware manufacturer driver injection disks
 
 1) Phrasing is convoluted.

Agreed. As Juston often says on dle, this makes a nice pile of nouns...

 2) IIUC they are not necessarily disks?

There was an answer from Petter in the beginning of this thread that
these things are different from driver media provided by random HW
manufacturers but more embarked in the hardware itself. Still, disks
doesn't apply well either, so media is fine, imho.

 3) What exactly is injection here?
 
 So maybe:
 Detect device driver media from hardware manufacturer

I like that onethough it brings back wording to any kind of
driver disk while the original idea was very special things embarked
in the devices itself and was fitting something apparently asked by
Dell to Ubuntu (ref: Colin comment on IRC).




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Re: Driver injection disk debconf templates in D-I

2010-05-30 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 30 May 2010, Christian PERRIER wrote:
  Detect device driver media from hardware manufacturer

 I like that onethough it brings back wording to any kind of
 driver disk while the original idea was very special things embarked
 in the devices itself and was fitting something apparently asked by
 Dell to Ubuntu (ref: Colin comment on IRC).

Isn't the long description a better place to explain subtleties?


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Re: Driver injection disk debconf templates in D-I

2010-05-30 Thread Justin B Rye
Christian PERRIER wrote:
 Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
 So maybe:
 Detect device driver media from hardware manufacturer
 
 I like that onethough it brings back wording to any kind of
 driver disk while the original idea was very special things embarked
 in the devices itself and was fitting something apparently asked by
 Dell to Ubuntu (ref: Colin comment on IRC).

Actually what I was thinking was either:

  _Description: Detect manufacturer-supplied device driver injection disks

or just:

  _Description: Detect built-in device driver injection disks

or indeed:

  _Description: Detect on-board device driver media

(But would people read on-board as necessarily meaning integrated
onto the motherboard and complain that these disks aren't?)
-- 
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sysadmin, and probably no clue about this particular package


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Bug#583732: tasksel: Please install kde-config-touchpad if laptop kde

2010-05-30 Thread Sune Vuorela
Package: tasksel
Severity: normal


Hi

It would be nice if you would install kde-config-touchpad on devices
having a touchpad. And if it is impossible to detect a touchpad, just on
laptops.

/Sune

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-2-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_DK.ISO-8859-15, LC_CTYPE=en_DK.ISO-8859-15 (charmap=ISO-8859-15)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages tasksel depends on:
ii  aptitude  0.6.2.1-2  terminal-based package manager (te
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.32 Debian configuration management sy
ii  liblocale-gettext-perl1.05-6 Using libc functions for internati
pn  tasksel-data  none (no description available)

tasksel recommends no packages.

tasksel suggests no packages.



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Bug#583733: tasksel: please install kde-config-tablet if a tablet is found

2010-05-30 Thread Sune Vuorela
Package: tasksel
Severity: normal


Hi.
Please install kde-config-tablet if a tablett (wacom-like)_is found and
the user is installing kde task.

/Sune

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-2-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_DK.ISO-8859-15, LC_CTYPE=en_DK.ISO-8859-15 (charmap=ISO-8859-15)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages tasksel depends on:
ii  aptitude  0.6.2.1-2  terminal-based package manager (te
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.32 Debian configuration management sy
ii  liblocale-gettext-perl1.05-6 Using libc functions for internati
pn  tasksel-data  none (no description available)

tasksel recommends no packages.

tasksel suggests no packages.



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Bug#583733: tasksel: please install kde-config-tablet if a tablet is found

2010-05-30 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:59:23 +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote:

 Package: tasksel
 Severity: normal
 
 
 Hi.
 Please install kde-config-tablet if a tablett (wacom-like)_is found and
 the user is installing kde task.
 
Why not always, so that a wacom tablet that's plugged in later can still
be configured?

Cheers,
Julien


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Bug#583735: system boot fails after installation

2010-05-30 Thread Németh Márton
Package: installation-reports

Boot method: CDRW media in a CD-ROM drive
Image version: 
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_di_alpha1/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso
Date: 2010-05-29 18:00

Machine: Desktop PC with Gigabyte GA-586TX3 motherboard ( 
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=1574 )

Processor:
# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 5
model   : 0
model name  : 05/00
stepping: 1
cpu MHz : 100.221
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr cx8 pge
bogomips: 200.44
clflush size: 32
power management:

Memory: 64MB
# cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:  60948 kB
MemFree:   10920 kB
Buffers: 652 kB
Cached:40372 kB
SwapCached:0 kB
Active:25332 kB
Inactive:  18284 kB
Active(anon):   2688 kB
Inactive(anon):0 kB
Active(file):  22644 kB
Inactive(file):18284 kB
Unevictable:   0 kB
Mlocked:   0 kB
HighTotal: 0 kB
HighFree:  0 kB
LowTotal:  60948 kB
LowFree:   10920 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree:  0 kB
Dirty: 4 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
AnonPages:  2616 kB
Mapped: 2048 kB
Slab:   4240 kB
SReclaimable:   2412 kB
SUnreclaim: 1828 kB
PageTables:  292 kB
NFS_Unstable:  0 kB
Bounce:0 kB
WritebackTmp:  0 kB
CommitLimit:   30472 kB
Committed_AS:   5564 kB
VmallocTotal: 966648 kB
VmallocUsed:1292 kB
VmallocChunk: 964416 kB
HugePages_Total:   0
HugePages_Free:0
HugePages_Rsvd:0
HugePages_Surp:0
Hugepagesize:   4096 kB
DirectMap4k:4096 kB
DirectMap4M:   61440 kB

Partitions: This state is shown after I booted the system from CD in
rescue mode:
# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hdb: 1281 MB, 1281982464 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 155 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000c6a25

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   *   1 140 1124518+  83  Linux
/dev/hdb2 141 155  120487+   5  Extended
/dev/hdb5 141 155  120456   82  Linux swap / Solaris

# cat /proc/partitions
cat /proc/partitions
major minor  #blocks  name

   3   641251936 hdb
   3   651124518 hdb1
   3   66  1 hdb2
   3   69 120456 hdb5

Output of lspci -knn (or lspci -nn):

# lspci -knn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 430TX - 82439TX MTXC [8086:7100] 
(rev 01)
00:07.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA 
[8086:7110] (rev 01)
00:07.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE 
[8086:7111] (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: PIIX_IDE
00:07.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB 
[8086:7112] (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:07.3 Bridge [0680]: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI [8086:7113] 
(rev 01)
00:09.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: S3 Inc. 86c764/765 [Trio32/64/64V+] 
[5333:8811] (rev 54)
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ [10ec:8139] (rev 10)
Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ 
[10ec:8139]
Kernel driver in use: 8139too
00:0b.0 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller [1106:3038] (rev 50)
Subsystem: First International Computer, Inc. Device [0925:1234]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:0b.1 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller [1106:3038] (rev 50)
Subsystem: First International Computer, Inc. Device [0925:1234]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:0b.2 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 [1106:3104] (rev 
51)
Subsystem: First International Computer, Inc. Device [0925:1234]
Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [O]
Detect network card:[O]
Configure network:  [ ]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Install base system:[O]
Clock/timezone setup:   [ ]
User/password setup:[O]
Install tasks:  [O]
Install boot loader:[E]
Overall install:[ ]

Comments/Problems:

I used the netinst CD image with the following version identifier:

This is a Debian 6.0 (squeeze) installation CD-ROM.
It was built 20100217-22:18; d-i 20100211.

I haven't connected the network for the first time just let 

Bug#583733: tasksel: please install kde-config-tablet if a tablet is found

2010-05-30 Thread Sune Vuorela
On Sunday 30 May 2010 11:36:34 Julien Cristau wrote:
 On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:59:23 +0200, Sune Vuorela wrote:
  Package: tasksel
  Severity: normal
  
  
  Hi.
  Please install kde-config-tablet if a tablett (wacom-like)_is found and
  the user is installing kde task.
 
 Why not always, so that a wacom tablet that's plugged in later can still
 be configured?

I guess that could be done. it was just 'why install it if not used'.. But 
then I looked in system settings and saw it showed up in the same category as 
'joystick', which is installed by default and probably even more rarely used 
compared to a tablet.

So I guess installing it unconditionally is okay.

/Sune
-- 
Man, how can I do for booting a connection from the tools menu inside 
Netscape?

From Internet Explorer you should log from the coaxial Web site to reset the 
login.



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Re: Driver injection disk debconf templates in D-I

2010-05-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Justin B Rye (j...@edlug.org.uk):

   _Description: Detect manufacturer-supplied device driver injection disks

Probably the best one but slightly too long.


 
 or just:
 
   _Description: Detect built-in device driver injection disks
 
 or indeed:
 
   _Description: Detect on-board device driver media
 
 (But would people read on-board as necessarily meaning integrated
 onto the motherboard and complain that these disks aren't?)

And these are IMHO defeated by Frans' one:


Detect device driver media from hardware manufacturer 

(and bring back the idea of injection disks in the long description,
which we have already)



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Bug#583732: tasksel: Please install kde-config-touchpad if laptop kde

2010-05-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Sune Vuorela (report...@pusling.com):
 Package: tasksel
 Severity: normal
 
 
 Hi
 
 It would be nice if you would install kde-config-touchpad on devices
 having a touchpad. And if it is impossible to detect a touchpad, just on
 laptops.

We have a laptop task, we have a kde-desktop task...but nothing
intersecting both.

Why not add this to the kde-desktop task? Would it pull many
dependencies in?



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Bug#583733: tasksel: please install kde-config-tablet if a tablet is found

2010-05-30 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 30 May 2010, Sune Vuorela wrote:
   Please install kde-config-tablet if a tablett (wacom-like)_is found
   and the user is installing kde task.
 
  Why not always, so that a wacom tablet that's plugged in later can
  still be configured?

 I guess that could be done. it was just 'why install it if not used'..
 But then I looked in system settings and saw it showed up in the same
 category as 'joystick', which is installed by default and probably even
 more rarely used compared to a tablet.

 So I guess installing it unconditionally is okay.

In that case it should be a Recommends from one of the KDE meta packages 
and not installed by tasksel. Please reassign accordingly.

Note that tasksel *does* now install Recommends by default (if available).



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Bug#583735: same happens when the hard disk is on Primary Master

2010-05-30 Thread Németh Márton
I configured the hard disk to primary master, and restarted
the whole install process from the beginning. The result is
the same: the grub menu does not appear, the system just
resets when grub is loaded.

Current setup:
 - Primary master: hard disk
 - Primary slave: empty
 - Secondary master: CD-ROM drive
 - Secondary slave: empty



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Bug#579970: installation-reports: GRUB2 failed grub-install (hd0) because RAID1 partition unable to be marked bootable

2010-05-30 Thread Jeff Spencer
Package: installation-reports
Severity: normal


At Squeeze installation partition step, created identical paritions on sda and 
sdb.

/boot = 2GB   sda1   sdb1
/ = 490GBsda2   sdb2
swap = 8.1GB  sda3sdb3

MD0 = sda1 and sdb1
MD1 = sda2 and sdb2
MD2 = sda3 and sdb3

At squeeze partition step, unable to set both sda1 and sdb1 as bootable  No 
effect in installer.   
Choose to go forward and see what happened.  Sweeze installation alpha1 failed 
grub-install (hd0) step.

Went back and used Lenny NetInst CD to partition software RAID1, same 
partitions, but the only difference is that I made the /boot partition
bootable using Lenny installer, and rebooted after formating ext3.

Back to squeeze installer, and at partition step - simply reformatted 
partitions from ext3 to ext4, and squeeze completed install
normally, rebooted, and cat /proc/mdstat showed sync in progress.

-- Package-specific info:

Boot method: CD
Image version: Alpha1 Squeeze
Date: Date and time of the install

Machine: GA-785G-UD3H, 8Gig, Phenom II X4955, 2xM
Partitions: df -Tl will do; the raw partition table is preferred

FilesystemType   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/md1  ext4   471006520   8054496 439026268   2% /
tmpfstmpfs 4098000 0   4098000   0% /lib/init/rw
udev tmpfs 4093320   284   4093036   1% /dev
tmpfstmpfs 4098000 0   4098000   0% /dev/shm
/dev/md0  ext4 1920972 49928   1773460   3% /boot


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot:   [O]
Detect network card:[O]
Configure network:  [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [E]
Install base system:[O]
Clock/timezone setup:   [O]
User/password setup:[O]
Install tasks:  [O]
Install boot loader:[E]
Overall install:[E]

Comments/Problems:

Description of the install, in prose, and any thoughts, comments
  and ideas you had during the initial install.

The only issue I had with my setup using RAID1 or LVM was inability
to set /boot partiion as active (bootable).   

-- 

Please make sure that the hardware-summary log file, and any other
installation logs that you think would be useful are attached to this
report. Please compress large files using gzip.

Once you have filled out this report, mail it to sub...@bugs.debian.org.

==
Installer lsb-release:
==
DISTRIB_ID=Debian
DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION=Debian GNU/Linux installer
DISTRIB_RELEASE=6.0 (squeeze) - installer build 20100430-02:26
X_INSTALLATION_MEDIUM=cdrom

==
Installer hardware-summary:
==
uname -a: Linux lubbock 2.6.32-3-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 24 18:07:42 UTC 2010 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
lspci -knn: 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host 
Bridge Alternate [1022:9601]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge 
Alternate [1022:9601]
lspci -knn: 00:02.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI 
to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 0) [1022:9603]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:0a.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI 
to PCI bridge (PCIE port 5) [1022:9609]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: pcieport
lspci -knn: 00:11.0 SATA controller [0106]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 
SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [1002:4391]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:b002]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ahci
lspci -knn: 00:12.0 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB 
OHCI0 Controller [1002:4397]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5004]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:12.1 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 
Controller [1002:4398]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5004]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:12.2 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB 
EHCI Controller [1002:4396]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5004]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:13.0 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB 
OHCI0 Controller [1002:4397]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5004]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:13.1 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 
Controller [1002:4398]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device [1458:5004]
lspci -knn: Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
lspci -knn: 00:13.2 USB Controller [0c03]: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB 
EHCI Controller [1002:4396]
lspci -knn: Subsystem: 

Bug#583735: grub error: unknown filesystem

2010-05-30 Thread Németh Márton
Next try with the daily build from

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso

Identifier:
This is a Debian 6.0 (squueze) installation CD-ROM.
It was built 20100538-10:07; d-i 20100530-03:55.

After the installation is finished and the system is rebooted the following
message appears on the screen:

GRUB loading.
Welcome to GRUB!

error: unknown filesystem.
Entering rescue mode...
grub rescue

At this point the grub is waiting for user interaction.



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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

2010-05-30 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 04:06:34PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote:
 Package: libxml2
 Version: 2.7.7.dfsg-2
 Severity: wishlist
 Tags: patch
 User: ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com
 Usertags: origin-ubuntu ubuntu-patch maverick
 
 Hi
 
  The attached patch adds an udeb to libxml2.

Is there something in d-i that requires such a udeb ?

Mike


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[SOLVED] Unbootable after kernel upgrade: Lilo can't load kernel

2010-05-30 Thread Stephen Powell
This is not a lilo bug.  The problem is that lilo's map installer
did not get run during the kernel upgrade process.  The fact that
the user was able to boot his old de-installed kernel is proof of
this.  The /boot/map file still pointed to the blocks in the file
system which formerly contained the old kernel and its initial RAM
file system image.  And since, fortunately, those blocks had not yet
been reused, the data was still there.  Modules which were
loaded from the initial RAM file system image loaded OK.  But once
the switch was made from the initial RAM file system to the
permanent root file system, further module loads could not be done,
since the modules had been erased.  When the user manually ran lilo's
map installer at the command line, the problem disappeared.

The real question is, Why didn't the map installer get run during
the kernel upgrade?  There is not sufficient data in the bug log
to determine the answer to that question, but I have observed that
do_bootloader = yes in /etc/kernel-img.conf no longer causes
lilo to be run when a new kernel is installed.  I believe that this
change in behavior was caused by changes to the kernel maintainer
scripts made around the time of the switch to grub version 1 as
the default boot loader.  do_bootloader = yes in /etc/kernel-img.conf
still causes zipl to be run on the s390 port, a port that neither
version of grub supports.  do_bootloader = yes should still be
specified in /etc/kernel-img.conf, however, so that update-initramfs -u
will cause lilo's map installer to be run when an initial RAM file
system is updated (but not when it is initially created).

So is this a bug in the kernel maintainer scripts?  Or is it a feature?
I don't know.  I'll leave that up to the kernel maintainers to decide.
A full discussion of how to make sure that lilo's map installer gets
run during the installation of a new kernel, taking into account all
types of kernels (official stock Debian kernels, custom kernels created
by make-kpkg, custom kernels created by make deb-pkg, etc., is beyond
the scope of this bug log.  Interested readers may wish to look at my
web page on kernel building, particularly step 10, for further
information.  http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm  The instructions
for customizing the Lenny environment will work in Squeeze or Sid also,
provided that you use only official stock Debian kernels.  If you use
custom kernels in Squeeze or later, you *must* use hook scripts to ensure
that any post-installation activities, such as the creation of an initial
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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

2010-05-30 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 So, why should we add the udeb in Debian, exactly ?

 It would be nice to carry it to minimize the delta between Debian and
 Ubuntu.

 It might also allow the use of migration-assistant, but I suspect it's
 not usable as is in Debian.

 PS: for sizes purpose, you should actually rebuild libxml2 with the
 minimal set of options you require for your program. I doubt you need
 all the APIs, especially the mostly deprecated ones.

 Ok; I'm not entirely sure of which features it needs, but I could work
 on this if you don't mind the extra build pass.

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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

2010-05-30 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 04:35:23PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote:
 On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
  Is there something in d-i that requires such a udeb ?
 
  Not in Debian; we use it for an udeb called migration-assistant which
  imports documents and settings from existing operating systems (e.g.
  Windows).

So, why should we add the udeb in Debian, exactly ?

Mike

PS: for sizes purpose, you should actually rebuild libxml2 with the
minimal set of options you require for your program. I doubt you need
all the APIs, especially the mostly deprecated ones.


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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

2010-05-30 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 - Link using -Bsymbolic-functions
 - Add missing zlib1g-dev to -dev
 - Build-depend on libreadline6-dev instead of libreadline5-dev.
 (If you need to know why, please ping me off-list and off-bug)

 Yes, I had already dropped all of them in the latest upload to Ubuntu
 maverick (2.7.7.dfsg-2ubuntu1); thanks

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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

2010-05-30 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 Is there something in d-i that requires such a udeb ?

 Not in Debian; we use it for an udeb called migration-assistant which
 imports documents and settings from existing operating systems (e.g.
 Windows).

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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

2010-05-30 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 04:46:23PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote:
 On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
  So, why should we add the udeb in Debian, exactly ?
 
  It would be nice to carry it to minimize the delta between Debian and
  Ubuntu.

I don't know if all udebs are automatically included in d-i, but if they
are, I doubt d-i people will like the additional 1.3MB uncompressed.

OT, but speaking of minimizing the delta between Debian and Ubuntu, the
following changes are pointless:
- Link using -Bsymbolic-functions
- Add missing zlib1g-dev to -dev
- Build-depend on libreadline6-dev instead of libreadline5-dev.
(If you need to know why, please ping me off-list and off-bug)

  It might also allow the use of migration-assistant, but I suspect it's
  not usable as is in Debian.
 
  PS: for sizes purpose, you should actually rebuild libxml2 with the
  minimal set of options you require for your program. I doubt you need
  all the APIs, especially the mostly deprecated ones.
 
  Ok; I'm not entirely sure of which features it needs, but I could work
  on this if you don't mind the extra build pass.

I don't, it's not like if it were xulrunner ;)

Mike


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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

2010-05-30 Thread Loïc Minier
On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
 PS: for sizes purpose, you should actually rebuild libxml2 with the
 minimal set of options you require for your program. I doubt you need
 all the APIs, especially the mostly deprecated ones.

 Here's a second patch on top of the first one adding a separate pass
 for the udeb.  I didn't actually test the runtime lib, but I did
 testbuild it and it produced the expected smaller files.
 Unfortunately, it probably conflicts with the python-dbg support
 changes.

   Thanks
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Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 17:28:06 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] Build the udeb in a separate pass

Disable almost all features except tree manipulation APIs.
---
 debian/rules |   21 -
 1 files changed, 16 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/debian/rules b/debian/rules
index 7203244..b006924 100755
--- a/debian/rules
+++ b/debian/rules
@@ -13,32 +13,39 @@ else
   CFLAGS += -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing
 endif
 
-override_dh_auto_configure: configure-main $(PYVERS:%=configure-%)
+override_dh_auto_configure: configure-main configure-udeb $(PYVERS:%=configure-%)
 
 configure-main:
 	dh_auto_configure --builddirectory=build -- --with-history --without-python CC=gcc -Wl,--as-needed CFLAGS=$(CFLAGS) --cache-file=$(CURDIR)/build/config.cache
 
+configure-udeb:
+	# turn everything off except tree manipulation APIs
+	dh_auto_configure --builddirectory=build/udeb -- --without-c14n --without-catalog --without-debug --without-docbook --without-ftp --without-html --without-http --without-iconv --without-iso8859x --without-legacy --without-mem-debug --with-minimum --without-output --without-pattern --without-push --without-python --without-reader --without-readline --without-regexps --without-sax1 --without-schemas --without-schematron --without-threads --without-valid --without-xinclude --without-xpath --without-xptr --without-modules --without-zlib CC=gcc -Wl,--as-needed CFLAGS=$(CFLAGS) --cache-file=$(CURDIR)/build/config.cache
+
 configure-python%: configure-main
 	dh_auto_configure --builddirectory=build-python$* -- --with-history --with-python=/usr/bin/python$* CC=gcc -Wl,--as-needed CFLAGS=$(CFLAGS) --cache-file=$(CURDIR)/build/config.cache
 	mv build-python$*/python build/python$*
 
-override_dh_auto_build: build-main $(PYVERS:%=build-%)
+override_dh_auto_build: build-main build-udeb $(PYVERS:%=build-%)
 
 build-main:
 	dh_auto_build --builddirectory=build
 
+build-udeb:
+	dh_auto_build --builddirectory=build/udeb
+
 build-python%:
 	dh_auto_build --builddirectory=build/python$*
 
 override_dh_auto_clean:
-	rm -rf build build-python*
+	rm -rf build build-python* debian/tmp-udeb
 
 	-test -r /usr/share/misc/config.sub  \
 	cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.sub config.sub
 	-test -r /usr/share/misc/config.guess  \
 	cp -f /usr/share/misc/config.guess config.guess
 
-override_dh_auto_install: install-main $(PYVERS:%=install-%)
+override_dh_auto_install: install-main install-udeb $(PYVERS:%=install-%)
 
 install-main:
 	dh_auto_install --builddirectory=build
@@ -60,6 +67,9 @@ install-main:
 		doc/html \
 		doc/tutorial debian/tmp/usr/share/doc/libxml2-doc
 
+install-udeb:
+	dh_auto_install --builddirectory=build/udeb --destdir=debian/tmp-udeb
+
 install-python%:
 	dh_auto_install --builddirectory=build/python$*
 
@@ -75,7 +85,8 @@ override_dh_installchangelogs:
 	dh_installchangelogs -Nlibxml2 -XChangeLog
 
 override_dh_install:
-	dh_install
+	dh_install -Nlibxml2-udeb
+	dh_install -plibxml2-udeb --sourcedir=debian/tmp-udeb
 	sed /dependency_libs/ s/'.*'/''/ debian/tmp/usr/lib/libxml2.la  debian/libxml2-dev/usr/lib/libxml2.la
 
 override_dh_strip:
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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

2010-05-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Mike Hommey (m...@glandium.org):

 I don't know if all udebs are automatically included in d-i, but if they
 are, I doubt d-i people will like the additional 1.3MB uncompressed.

They aren't automatically included.



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Re: Driver injection disk debconf templates in D-I

2010-05-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:35:22AM +0100, Justin B Rye wrote:
 Christian PERRIER wrote:
  Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
  So maybe:
  Detect device driver media from hardware manufacturer

  I like that onethough it brings back wording to any kind of
  driver disk while the original idea was very special things embarked
  in the devices itself and was fitting something apparently asked by
  Dell to Ubuntu (ref: Colin comment on IRC).

 Actually what I was thinking was either:

   _Description: Detect manufacturer-supplied device driver injection disks

How about:

   _Description: Detect manufacturer-supplied driver injection disks

?  device doesn't provide any new information here; I think
manufacturer-supplied is more accurate than the other suggestions.  (And I
think the distinction between disk and media is immaterial; we use
disk to refer to lots of things that aren't physically disk-shaped.)

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Bug#578927: marked as done (debian-installer: No kernel driver for powerpc mac mini ethernet (Sun GEM))

2010-05-30 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sun, 30 May 2010 18:51:49 +0100
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and subject line Re: Current debian-installer broken for Sun GEM ethernet on 
powerpc?
has caused the Debian Bug report #578927,
regarding debian-installer: No kernel driver for powerpc mac mini ethernet (Sun 
GEM)
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---BeginMessage---
Package: debian-installer
Version: daily-image powerpc netinst ISO 2010-0419
Severity: normal

During the installer check for an ethernet interface prior to
bringing up the network, it fails to find an ethernet interface.

lspci -v reports:

0002:20:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth 2 GMAC (Sun GEM) 
(rev ff) (prog-if ff)
  !!! Unknown header type 7f

This worked just fine for earlier Debian releases; maybe it's
just missing the appropriate kernel module?


Regards,
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On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 04:53:19PM -0400, Norberto Feliberty wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 20:28 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
  Hi folks,
  
  Just wondering if anyone else had hit on issues with the current
  debian-installer on powerpc.  On my Mac Mini, it fails to bring
  up the ethernet interface due to not finding the ethernet
  adapter.  Strange, since it's always worked to date!  I reported
  this as #578927
  
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=578927
  
  but maybe it's a kernel issue?
  
 
 Wow strange. I encountered this problem some months ago with the
 installer not being able to configure and set up the ethernet card on my
 playstation 3 which is a powerpc based machine. This was fixed for
 squeeze alpha 1. Is it broken again?

Just tested with the d-i daily netinst image, and it's OK now.


Regards,
Roger

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Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

2010-05-30 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 30 May 2010, Christian PERRIER wrote:
 Quoting Mike Hommey (m...@glandium.org):
  I don't know if all udebs are automatically included in d-i, but if
  they are, I doubt d-i people will like the additional 1.3MB
  uncompressed.

 They aren't automatically included.

But udebs we don't use do need to be specifically excluded from inclusion 
on CD images (to keep the size of bc/netinst down as much as possible and 
to keep maximum space available for real packages on CD/DVD1).

There is a cost. But in this case I don't think the cost is high enough to 
object to the udeb.


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Re: [SOLVED] Unbootable after kernel upgrade: Lilo can't load kernel

2010-05-30 Thread Frans Pop
reopen 505609 
reassign 505609 linux-2.6
affects 505609 lilo
thanks

Stephen Powell wrote:
 The real question is, Why didn't the map installer get run during
 the kernel upgrade?
[...]
 So is this a bug in the kernel maintainer scripts?  Or is it a feature?
 I don't know.  I'll leave that up to the kernel maintainers to decide.

Reopening and reassigning to the kernel team.


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Re: Driver injection disk debconf templates in D-I

2010-05-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org):

 How about:
 
_Description: Detect manufacturer-supplied driver injection disks

Good one. I'm balanced with Frans' proposal:

Detect device driver media from hardware manufacturer


I find Frans' version more newbie-friendly but further from the
original idea of driver injection disks (which is maybe described
in some manufacturer documentation...or some Ubuntu documentation).

media is less precise than disks but these disks aren't actually
disks so there is room for argument anyway..:). Frans proposal leaves
injection aside as well but How are these disks injecting
drivers, anyway? They have drivers on them, sure, but no magic system
to inject themas this is precisely the purpose of this udeb to
do it

At this moment, Frans' proposal is, for me, ahead of others. This is
what I'll commit as of now. Please talk before tomorrow if you have
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Localization status for Debian Installer (May 31th update)

2010-05-30 Thread Christian PERRIER
In very short:
45 languages are in good shape (+2)
20 languages are in danger of being deactivated (-1)

Progress:
- All languages got 1u in sublevel 1 and 1f1u in sublevel 2 due to 
  string additions in hw-detect. 6 have been re-completed. These
  templates are being reviewed so it is recommended to wait before
  recompleting translations *or* be ready to re-update them again soon.
- Irish and Lithuanian complete (thanks to Frans Pop who
  resurrected strings from older PO files versions)
- Estonian was forgotten in previous mails..:)
- Brazilian Portuguese completed sublevel 1 and can be considered to
  be on the safe side now

The safe side
-
7 languages are complete:
bg fr nb ro sk sv th

26 languages were complete before hw-detect changes:
ar ast cs da de el es et eu ga gu he hi it ja ko lt mr nl pa
pl pt ru ta vi zh_CN

No more languages are incomplete because of sibyl-installer re-addition (-3).

8 languages were complete before changes to sublevel 5 (+0):
bn eo fi pl sl sq tr zh_TW

4 languages have a few strings to update in sublevels 1 to 3 but have
recently active translators who will probably easy cope with them (+1):
be ca nn pt_BR 

The unsafe side
---
5 languages had a few updates since lenny but not on a regular
basis (-1).
 These languages are at risk of being deactivated for Squeeze if they
 are not complete for sublevels 1 and 2:
gl hu ka ml tl

9 languages were complete in lenny but had no update since then (+0).
 These languages are at risk of being deactivated for Squeeze if they
 are not complete for sublevels 1 and 2:
bs dz hr id km lv mk ne wo

7 active languages are in bad shape (+0) 
 They were not complete for lenny and had no update since *before* the
 release of lenny. They're at risk of being deactivated except se which
 is an historical exception

090%  uk
087%  ku
086%  am
082%  kk
072%  sr
068%  cy
015%  se


The prospective side
--
Prospective languages are languages that are not yet
activated. They'll be activated if they reach 100% for sublevels 1 and 2.

1 Prospective language is doing progress(+0):
050%  kn: 303t131f91u for sublevel 1 and 87t8f432u for sublevel 2

10 Prospective languages are stalled(+0):
083%  si (P)
064%  is (P)
043%  ms (P)
025%  br (P)
014%  mg (P)
014%  te (P)
012%  fa (P)
009%  xh (P)
008%  ur (P)
002%  hy (P)
000%  lo (P) 





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