Re: Could not build the last CVS version
Hi all, Nowicki Christophe wrote: [snip] The following packages have unmet dependencies: discover-udeb: Depends: libdiscover1 but it is not installable E: Broken packages make: *** [cdrom-get_udebs-stamp] Error 100 [snip] I'am running Debian GNU/Linux unstable. Maybe I can not build the d-i image with my version of Debian? The list archive of debian-boot should have a thread this issue. IIRC it needs an one-liner fix in build/get-packages. Thank you very much. I've found a fix here : http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00425.html Now this part of the build process is working. But I can't build the d-i because I'am running a 2.6.0-test9 kernel. make cdrom fail with this error : mkdir -p ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib/modules/2.4.22-1-386/kernel; depmod -q -a -b ./tmp/cdrom/tree/ 2.4.22-1-386; depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented I've found a old thread about this build problem here : http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200303/msg00157.html This error was not fixed yet :( I can only build the d-i on a kernel 2.4 ? Thanks -- Meuuuhh elle fait la vache :)) _(__)_ Nowicki Christophe '-e e -'__,--.__) 17, rue Saint Exupery(o_o)) 77500 Chelles \. /___. | Etudiant EPITECH Promo 2006 ||| _)/_)/ http://etud.epita.fr/~nowick_c/nowick_c.asc //_(/_(/_( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Could not build the last CVS version
Nowicki Christophe wrote: [snip] The list archive of debian-boot should have a thread this issue. IIRC it needs an one-liner fix in build/get-packages. Thank you very much. I've found a fix here : http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00425.html Now this part of the build process is working. http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00507.html is AFAIK the better workaround. But I can't build the d-i because I'am running a 2.6.0-test9 kernel. make cdrom fail with this error : mkdir -p ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib/modules/2.4.22-1-386/kernel; depmod -q -a -b ./tmp/cdrom/tree/ 2.4.22-1-386; depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented I've found a old thread about this build problem here : http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200303/msg00157.html This error was not fixed yet :( I can only build the d-i on a kernel 2.4 ? As it stands, you need a running debian 2.4 kernel with modules support. Thiemo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proposal for languagechooser and language list
First of all, sorry for just putting ideas in this mail and not propose any implementation. I'm afraid my skills are too low for proposing anything but really bad code. Not speaking of time lacking..:-) The current language list (which is the very first prompt a user sees when installing Debian) is not really satisfactory (imho, of course). The list is alphabetically sorted with all choices being translation of the english sentence Choose this to proceed in xx Thus, hungarian comes first (because of its leading A), then french variants (because I translated as Choisissez which comes before Choose) and so on... There were a few proposals recently for changing this to simpler choices, for instance only language names. The variants also induce some confusion by macking the list a bit too long. Here are my proposal : -change this to a 2 stage process : first choose the language (e.g. Français). Then choose the country variant (is Français is chosen, the user chooses between Belgique, Canada, France, Luxembourg, Suisse) -simplfy the sentence : just keep the language names (translated, just like they currently are) -find a rule for sorting languages : -English (which is the default) should come first -Sort other languages. Below are some proposals: -alphabetically (not easy : where should double-byte languages go?) -by translation status in Debian: -first sorting key--translation status for d-i -second sorting key--combination of translation status for debconf templates and programs translations (by using http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/ pages when they will be updated again -by numbers of people speaking these languages in the world. Many references may be found on this topic. For instance, by googling a bit, I found http://www.photius.com/rankings/languages2.html: -Chinese, Mandarin -Spanish -English -Arabic -Bengali -Hindi -Portuguese -Russian -Japanese -German -Chinese, Wu -Javanese -Korean -French -Turkish -Vietnamese .../... we have 50 languages listed This reference is an ethnological reference which lists the number of people *really* speaking the given language. This is not a sum of the populations of countries for which the given language is among the official languages of the country (I found that statistic also, but only for the Top10 languages : http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0775272.html#A0774735) Does somebody have comments on this? If the 2 stage process is agreed, we will need someone for implementing it in languagechooser. Joey, Petter, Tollef, you have for sure a valuable opinion on this as you are listed as the major contributors for languagechooser... -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
German translation for d-i
Hi, as i read in the last d-i status report, the german translation is at 23%. If there is a need for help there, i would translate the missing strings. I read in another mail on this list that Anonymous CVS is disabled. How would i access the current sources? Jan Lübbe signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: German translation for d-i
* Jan Lübbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 11:45]: I read in another mail on this list that Anonymous CVS is disabled. How would i access the current sources? You can access http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer Not ideal, I know, but at least it works. And you'll only need a few .po files anyway. -- Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Anonymous CVS access disabled?
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 11:05:49PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: since yesterday anonymous connections to CVS are rejected, is this intentional? Seems that pserver access is disabled. I can't get files either from webwml or debian-boot. Could someone tell me when it will be possible? Second beta of debian-installer is coming up and I'd like to translate some messages :/ I don't have ssh access cause I am not DD. regards fEnIo -- _ Bartosz Feski aka fEnIo | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | pgp:0x13fefc40 _|_|_32-050 Skawina - Gowackiego 3/15 - w. maopolskie - Polska (0 0) phone:+48501608340 | ICQ:46704720 | GG:726362 | IRC:fEnIo ooO--(_)--Ooo http://skawina.eu.org | JID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | RLU:172001 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: New discover package
Hi David Thank you for your work. I will have a look at it today. I would suggest to add both of us as uploaders and to add [EMAIL PROTECTED] as maintainer. What do other debian-boot members think about that? Am Son, den 14.12.2003 schrieb David Nusinow um 07:18: Hi Gaudenz, I've put together a new discover upload. It's got a couple of fixes that were fairly easy to apply, and it updates the standards version too. I put myself as maintainer and you as an uploader, since we don't have a collective email address for the maintainer field, but if you want to switch those two fields around, I'd be fine with that. It's lintian-clean, although not linda-clean yet, as making it linda clean would require fixing the linuxrc-isn't-executable bug, and I'm not ready to do that yet (you're welcome to go for it if you want) The packages (i386) and all the supporting material are at http://www.tufts.edu/~dnusin01/discover/ Please let me know if these are Ok with you, and if so, I'll find a sponsor and get it uploaded. I tink it would be best to ask fr a sponsor on debian-boot. I hope Petter or Joey Hess could do the upload. Gaudenz - David Nusinow -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anonymous CVS access disabled?
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 01:12:46PM +0100, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 11:05:49PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: since yesterday anonymous connections to CVS are rejected, is this intentional? Seems that pserver access is disabled. I can't get files either from webwml or debian-boot. Could someone tell me when it will be possible? Second beta of debian-installer is coming up and I'd like to translate some messages :/ I don't have ssh access cause I am not DD. Joey Hess told in http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00584.html that pserver has been shut down, no idea when it is back. For debian-boot stuff, you can get PO files from http://people.debian.org/~barbier/d-i/l10n/ and submit bugreports to have them committed. These pages are updated from time to time because cronjobs on gluck are also disabled. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i CD images unavailable?
Am Son, den 14.12.2003 schrieb Harald Dunkel um 15:59: Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Am Sam, den 13.12.2003 schrieb Harald Dunkel um 18:03: I would be very interested in creating a netinst CD based on kernel 2.6.0-test11 (or newer). Is there some kind of README about how the current netinst images for 2.4 are generated? Look at the source of d-i and debian-cd. Unfortunately there is no readme about the whole process. For 2.6 look at the message dan weber posted to debian-boot one or two days ago. There is some work which needs to be done to support 2.6 in d-i. Gaudenz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i CD images unavailable?
Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Am Sam, den 13.12.2003 schrieb Harald Dunkel um 18:03: Hi folks, Seems that the links pointing to the CD images on http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ are broken. Is there a description somewhere how to create the CD images? try http://www.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de/~sebastian.ley/d-i/ (i386) or http://www.soziologie.ch/~steinlin/d-i/powerpc/ (powerpc) Thanx for the pointer, but I hoped to find a more recent image. We are trying to restore the cd building process. We hope there are new images in the next few days. gaudenz I would be very interested in creating a netinst CD based on kernel 2.6.0-test11 (or newer). Is there some kind of README about how the current netinst images for 2.4 are generated? Regards Harri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions
* Daniele Nicolodi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-12 14:13]: | The lvmcfg script depends on find-partitions to get a list of partition | where is possibile to build a volume group. find-partition as changed is | output in a (recent ?) update and now it doesn't report the type of | partitions but the filesystem type. For that reason lvmcfg is completely | inusable. | | I hope this will be fixed soon, at least before the next beta of the | debian installer. If someone suggest me the right way to fix the problem | i can try to submit a patch. you can write a work-around for find-partitions: 1. read /proc/partitions for disks 2. fdisk each disk, and grep for 0x8e Bye Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: German translation for d-i
* Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 11:49]: | * Jan Lübbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 11:45]: | I read in another mail on this list that Anonymous CVS is disabled. | How would i access the current sources? | | You can access http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer | Not ideal, I know, but at least it works. And you'll only need a few | .po files anyway. maybe we can export the d-i cvs tree on gluck? and provide a tarball for such contributors. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Minor problems with the installer
I'm sorry for the delay in answering your installation report. As fas as I can see, nobody else did yet, so here goes.. Oliver Gerlich wrote: Hello, a few days ago I installed Debian Sarge using the netinst ISO files. Besides some problems with booting from CD (I think my CD-writer is to blame for that) the installation succeeded. But I have noticed these (minor) flaws: - How do I install without DHCP? My PC is behind a router without DHCP (IPs and everything is configured by hand). But the installer tried to detect a DHCP server again and again. In the end I set up a DHCP on the router to get the installetion working. I remember that the Woody installer let me type in my configuration by hand. Actually, the version you used does let you do that, you just have to find the manual network configuration menu item, and after you do that it will stop the annoying dhcp stuff. This is fixed better in the daily d-i builds. They will try dhcp for 10 seconds, and then make it very easy for you to go on and do a manual configuration if dhcp didn't work. - The cursor keys for the Previous and Forward (Zurück and Weiter in german) buttons are interchanged, at least on the first reboot-dialog. That means that the arrow-right keys selects the Previous button and vice versa. (I used the Dialog installer). Fixed in the daily builds. - Selecting the right installation source was a bit misleading. Initially the CDROM was selected as install source - I wanted to do a netinstall and only had the small ISO image. And when there appeared a dialog asking if I wanted to add other APT-sources I didn't know that there weren't any servers selected so far, so I said No. Only when tasksel didn't show me very much I realized that I should have added some sources in the beginning. Good observation. This is fixed in my tree for base-config 2.01 and will enter the distribution soon. Newer versions of base-config also let you back out from most points and get a menu of choices, which would have let you revisit apt setup. And after the installation I saw that unnecessarily the CD was still in the apt-conf file, and that the contrib and non-free entries were missing. The installation should at least indicate this. I'm not sure if removing the entry for the netinst CD is worth the bother. Does it cause problems? The installer does not bother with non-free any more, unless you do a expert mode (DEBCONF_PRIORITY=low) install. There is so little reason to use non-free that it does not bother me to make those who want it go a little out of their way to get it, like they have to for any other non-debian apt repository. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: EVMS doesn't work!!
Daniele Nicolodi wrote: I have tried to configure evms from debian installer. It doesnt work. i have loaded evms-udeb installer module and md kernel modules then i have selcted evmsconfig from main menu but yhe configurator doesn't start tup. I have tried to start evmsn from console and i get a library not found error. This is with image from http://www.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de/~sebastian.ley/d-i/ You should probably file a bug on evms-udeb; it is not maintained by this list, and I'm not sure if Matt Zimmerman reads this list. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Install report
Jukka Neppius wrote: 1. No documents! The page http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ has a promising link to The Debian-Installer's INSTALLATION HOWTO. Unfortunately it does not give anything. I think you'll find that link is working now. We're still in the process of restoring services after the recent security breach of the Debian servers. 2. Guessing name of the first boot diskette was easy. 2. took some time. If first diskette asks for 2. boot floppy, there should be a file bootfloppy2.img (or something like it). Rootfloppy.img would also be good name, but then boot floppy should ask for it. The INSTALLATION-HOWTO makes it much easier, but we do plan to rename these images, particularly the badly named floppy image, in the future. 3. I wanted to install from network. Two boot floppies found network interface from Epox 8K9A71 motherboard. Everything went well until installer wanted to configure CD-drive. Installer refused to believe that there is no CD-drive! I can get debs from local network easier than from CD, so I didn't install a CD drive. I was able to finish installation by selecting next installation step from the menu. After each step installer wanted to configure non existing CD. This is a known problem that's on our list to fix. 4. Keyboard configuration was easy as usual. Unfortunately after first boot Debian had forgotten that I don't have US keyboard. This is a base-config bug, and is fixed in the version of base-config in unstable. I'm not sure if that version of base-config has made it to testing yet, but it will eventually. 5. An old problem: I usually make a 'small' root partition. (currently it should be about 150 MB, my first Linux computer had total 80 MB disk space.) This computer had relatively small disk, so I made only / /usr. I should have made symlinks /var - /usr/var ... I forget that while trying to configure non existing CD, so I run out of disk space. Tasksel did hide the error message so I had to use old reliable dselect. It told immediately what is the problem. Fix was easy. Perhaps installer could check the size of / and if it is small and not all big partition were made, ask user where /var should be moved (same with /usr, /home, /tmp). How exactly did tasksel hide the error message? I don't think that having the installer make symlinks would be very good. It would be good if it tried to ensure that the disk sizes were sane, but of course different people's definitions of sane varies in this area. Result was working system. Network and sound drivers were found automatically. Good deal, you should fill out the installation report template you'll find in /root, and file a proper install report with that template that includes the hardware you installed to so we can track it. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian Installer: Install Falls
Hi, you filed three reports of apparently three different installs to the same laptop, and reported hangs at three different places: #1 while running fdisk, which could not see your drive #2 while performing a usb-discover, apparently in the middle of downloading d-i components from the net; except usb-discover should not be downloaded then, and would not be run; it is run while the installer boots up long before that #3 just after loading the driver for your network card, which apparently failed, and then it hung This leaves me wondering what exactly you mean by the installer hanging. Is it completly frozen, so that caps lock and num lock cannot be turned off or on, and nothing you type has an effect, even alt-f2 to switch virtual consoles? Or is this some other variety of problem? Do you get a kernel oops message on the screen? Having three kernel crashes at the three spots you described would be most strange. In install #1 you got way past where you did in #2, which is in turn quite further than #3. The three actions the installer would be performing at those three points are quite different, and do not even involve the same hardware in #1 as in #2 and #3. It also should not even really be accessing hardware in #1 and #3, as you describe it as just displaying an error message after an attempt to access the hardware hung. It's possible that the kernel just likes to hang on your laptop after X minutes of uptime, or semi-randomly, of course. Without more information, it's unlikely anyone can help. - Where did you get the daily version of the installer that you are using, and what was the build date? - Was there anything else different between the three installation attempts besides the different means you used to boot the installer? - What exactly was on the screen during hang #2? - Can you reproduce any of these hangs, or does it hang in other strange and unlikly places? - Can you boot up the installer, and, before it hangs, use the second virtual console to write a copy of the dmesg output to a floppy, and send it to us? - If you can reproduce any of the hangs, then right before you know it's going to hang, press alt-f4 to switch to the virtual console displaying the logs. Watch the logs, and right after it's hung, copy down the last three or four lines of information for us. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: d-i CD images unavailable?
Harald Dunkel wrote: Seems that the links pointing to the CD images on http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ are broken. Is there a description somewhere how to create the CD images? On November 21st, several Debian machines, including some that hosted part of the debian-installer infrastructure, were compromised by an attacker. debian-installer is now mostly recovered from this incident, but there is currently no access to beta 1 CD images, or some daily builds, that were hosted on the compromised machine. A few developers have made known good snapshots from past daily builds available: * i386 http://www.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de/~sebastian.ley/d-i/ * powerpc http://www.soziologie.ch/~steinlin/d-i/powerpc/ -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: sarge INSTALL REPORT - how set IP hostname?
Sebastian Haase wrote: It seems like it found my hardware fine: the ethernet card works and DHCP gets automatically configured. BUT: I don't want DHCP - I am missing the question where I can specify my static IP. Also I always ended up with hostname being 'localhost'. You need to boot in expert mode, with DEBCONF_PRIORITY=low added to the boot line at the boot prompt, then you'll be able to tell it to skip dhcp and do a manual entry. I think that not noticing that dhcp didn't provide a hostname, and not prompting manually for one is a bug in our netcfg program. Often after reboot I can't read the CDROM drive anymore - I can fix that with modconf by deinstalling the scsi-ide module. Please send details about what model of CD drive you have. I have also seen this with my new test laptop (kindly provided courtesy of Linux Certified, Inc, plug plug), but more data points would be good. Is there a command to set the network configuration afterwards ? And change the hostname ? Not currently, there is a bug on base-config asking for this. You'll have to grep and sed in /etc. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installation reporting on HP Proliant ML350 with Smartarray
I apologise for the delay in responding to your installation report. As far as I can see nobody else did, so here goes.. Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: Some problems in installation: * d-i does not recognize ethernet (tg3) and controller (cciss for 641 series) I loaded by hand modules and proceeded. I could send pci ids in a couple of days. It'd be good if you'd send those pci ids, this should be easy to fix. * kernel installation failed The problem is that the root /dev/cciss/disc/disc0/part1 path is not correctly managed by mkinitrd and it creates a 0byte file. The installation succeded by hand using a traditional device name -r /dev/cciss/c0d0p1, customizing in chroot /target the /etc/mkinitrd/modules to add cciss support, creating lilo.conf by hand (with non devfs device names) and running lilo. Sounds like you have a good handle on what was broken and why, so why don't you file a bug report on the kernel-image-2.4.22-i386 package (or whatever kernel package it installed) with the full details of what mkinitrd does wrong. Also, manual disk partition failed and presented a strange list of choices: . . 0 0 1 1 / / Finished or so. I think it's having a hard time converting the smartarray's nonstandard devices into the easily readable format it tries to use. Can you file a bug against the partitioner package? -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: installer issues
tcg wrote: New to the list and to Debian as well. After reading an article about the installer I wanted to give it a try and had some problems. I used the daily build netinst from 11/13/03. One problem I had was that after choosing the task-based package selection method and finding it a little too broad I could not return to choose a different method. Fixed in base-config 2.00. Second, I was asked some questions about where to instll LILO and then presented with a screen that allowed me to install GRUB, which was my preference, so why question about LILO? Sounds like someone dropped to low priority and got confused.. How could we make it less confusing, I wonder? Third, GRUB was setup wrong and I had to edit it in order to boot. Maybe it was because / and /boot were to separate partitions; / was on hda7 and /boot was on hda1, GRUB setup the following root (hd0,6), when it needed to be root (hd0,0) (it booted after the change). I have also not had a lot of luck booting grub, unfortunatly. Fourth, after booting into the minimal system ad configured the apt sources I kept getting errors when trying to read from the CD - ide-scsi: hdb: unsupported commend in request queue (0). Maybe the burn was bad, or possibly I should try the daily build instead. I have seen this too, and will be tracking it down in the next couple of days, I expect. Something is screwy with discover, ide-scsi, apt. Do not reply to the email address. Please use the contact page below for any desired direct replies. Apologies for the inconvenience. realcomputerguy dot com slash contact dot html I never do that kind of thing, even when I am online. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: German translation for d-i
(added CC to debian-l10n-german) * Jan Lübbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 11:45]: I read in another mail on this list that Anonymous CVS is disabled. How would i access the current sources? You can access http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer Not ideal, I know, but at least it works. And you'll only need a few .po files anyway. http://people.debian.org/~barbier/d-i/l10n/ is easier to work with for translators. When you have completed a translation, then file a bug against the package so that the translation may be commited (when the CVS server will be up and running, I guess) I'm really surprised to see german translations only at 23%. Looks like it's time to involve more german translation team people in the debian-installer translation process. I seem to remember that most german translators wirk with Grisu's DDTP for po-debconf translations. No idea whether it's really appropriate for d-i stuff (the french team does no use DDTP at all for (po-)debconf stuff). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 04:51:11PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: you can write a work-around for find-partitions: 1. read /proc/partitions for disks 2. fdisk each disk, and grep for 0x8e Is fdisk supposed to work on all platforms supported by debian installer ?? Ciao -- Daniele -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions
* Daniele Nicolodi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 17:20]: | On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 04:51:11PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: | | you can write a work-around for find-partitions: | | 1. read /proc/partitions for disks | 2. fdisk each disk, and grep for 0x8e | | Is fdisk supposed to work on all platforms supported by debian installer ?? hmm. no. You can use parted to do this. Imho it's supported on all architectures. Bye Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: netcfg debconf templates - please review
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 08:18:45AM +, Oliver Elphick wrote: @@ -101,7 +101,7 @@ Template: netcfg/internal-plip Type: text -_Description: Parallel-line IP +_Description: Parallel-port IP The acronym is PLIP, so I think we should stick with the original. -- Matt Kraai [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:51:17PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: | Is fdisk supposed to work on all platforms supported by debian installer ?? hmm. no. You can use parted to do this. Imho it's supported on all architectures. No, it is not. It lacks at least support for IBM Disklabels. Bastian -- Suffocating together ... would create heroic camaraderie. -- Khan Noonian Singh, Space Seed, stardate 3142.8 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#223975: DEBOOTSTRAP uscito in maniera anomala
Package: boot-floppies version: Debian GNU Linux 3.0 r 1 Woody flavor: no architecture: 1386 motherboard: Lucky Star LS P54CE 430FX Rev D1 - Intel 133 Mhz bios: 2a59cl1b (flashed!) memory: 128 Mb RAM hard-disk: Maxtor 4 Giga scsi: no cd-rom: Plextor 40x12x40 network card: no pcmcia: no error messages: user.info dbootstrap [61]: making symlink from /dev/hdc to /dev/cdrom user.info dbootstrap [61]: running /usr/sbin/dboottstrap __ bootfloppies __ arch i386 woody /target file:/instmnt user.err dbootstrap [61]: dbootstrap A uscito in maniera anormale user.info dbootstrap [61]: unmonting partition mounted at /instmnt. problem: Premetto che sono approdato a Linux non riuscendo ad installare Windows 98SE dopo vari tentativi sul suddetto pc. Dopo l'inizializzazione della partizione root/, durante l'installazione del sistema di base, DEBOOTSTRAP é uscito in maniera anomala (return value 139 o anche -1). Ho provato sia con il boot dai floppies sia con quello da cd-rom, sia con 2 lettori cd-rom diversi, sia copiando il cd-rom sul dico fisso slave e provando l'installazione da li, sia con due hard disk master diversi, e addirittura riflashando il vecchio bios originale della scheda madre. thankyou [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
di-packages-build_0.3_i386.changes is NEW
(new) di-packages-build_0.3.dsc optional devel (new) di-packages-build_0.3.tar.gz optional devel (new) di-packages-build_0.3_all.deb optional devel Helper packages for Debian-Installer packages build This package contains a few scripts which supports the build of various Debian-Installer packages. Changes: di-packages-build (0.3) unstable; urgency=low . * Use one script for a lot of old scripts which share any logic. * Add support for packages with -udeb suffix. Announcing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your package contains new components which requires manual editing of the override file. It is ok otherwise, so please be patient. New packages are usually added to the override file about once a week. You may have gotten the distribution wrong. You'll get warnings above if files already exist in other distributions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Proposal for languagechooser and language list
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 10:48:57AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote: First of all, sorry for just putting ideas in this mail and not propose any implementation. I'm afraid my skills are too low for proposing anything but really bad code. Not speaking of time lacking..:-) The current language list (which is the very first prompt a user sees when installing Debian) is not really satisfactory (imho, of course). The list is alphabetically sorted with all choices being translation of the english sentence Choose this to proceed in xx Thus, hungarian comes first (because of its leading A), then french variants (because I translated as Choisissez which comes before Choose) and so on... There were a few proposals recently for changing this to simpler choices, for instance only language names. The variants also induce some confusion by macking the list a bit too long. Here are my proposal : -change this to a 2 stage process : first choose the language (e.g. Français). Then choose the country variant (is Français is chosen, the user chooses between Belgique, Canada, France, Luxembourg, Suisse) I don't think a two-stage selection is all that necessary. That seems like added complexity for little benefit; the list is only made a little longer by including all locales in a single list, and the fewer questions the better. -simplfy the sentence : just keep the language names (translated, just like they currently are) Of course, the counterargument is that we can't expect the debconf question itself to be usefully localized; so the user may understand their language name, but without the complete sentence there may be greater confusion as to the application of the language. Does it apply to the installer only? To the default system locale once installed? To the keyboard? Then again, I'm not sure the answers to these questions are all that obvious even /with/ the current sentence. :) -find a rule for sorting languages : -English (which is the default) should come first As long as this refers to the C locale (which would also be first if sorted alphabetically by locale name -- using the C locale's sort rules, that is :), that seems ok. If it's en_US or en_UK people are after, those ought to be sorted like everything else. In which case, I think the label for the C locale ought to be international English, for clarity. -Sort other languages. Below are some proposals: -alphabetically (not easy : where should double-byte languages go?) -by translation status in Debian: -first sorting key--translation status for d-i -second sorting key--combination of translation status for debconf templates and programs translations (by using http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/ pages when they will be updated again -by numbers of people speaking these languages in the world. Many references may be found on this topic. For instance, by googling a bit, I found http://www.photius.com/rankings/languages2.html: -Chinese, Mandarin -Spanish -English -Arabic -Bengali -Hindi -Portuguese -Russian -Japanese -German -Chinese, Wu -Javanese -Korean -French -Turkish -Vietnamese .../... we have 50 languages listed This reference is an ethnological reference which lists the number of people *really* speaking the given language. This is not a sum of the populations of countries for which the given language is among the official languages of the country (I found that statistic also, but only for the Top10 languages : http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0775272.html#A0774735) Does somebody have comments on this? I believe that the most useful sort order for a user *trying to find his language in the list* is alphabetically by locale code, with locale codes listed explicitly in front of the translation. Most ISO locale codes are derived from the language's own name for itself, so assuming at least basic familiarity with Latin sort order, this would seem to be the biggest UI win for the most users. CJK is an exception; not only are speakers of CJK languages least likely to be familiar with Latin sort order, their language codes are less likely to correspond to the native name for the language. ('ja' for Japanese comes from the Western name for the language, as does 'ko' for Korean, IIRC; and I'm not sure of the derivation of 'zh' for Chinese.) If someone can think of a sort algorithm that would better serve CJK users without compromising the utility to the users of the much more numerous (and harder to identify at a glance) Latin locales, I'd be interested to hear it. Sorting by translation status in Debian is only useful to the user if he *knows* that's the reason for the sort order. Otherwise, he's just going to get frustrated trying to find his
Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:19:00PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:51:17PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: | Is fdisk supposed to work on all platforms supported by debian installer ?? hmm. no. You can use parted to do this. Imho it's supported on all architectures. What about list all available partitions (listed in /proc/partitions) ? I hope that a person who install lvm know what he's doing. We must also list all unpartioned disks because a lvm vg could be created also on a unpartitioned disk. Ciao -- Daniele -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New discover package
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 02:24:43PM +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Hi David Thank you for your work. I will have a look at it today. I would suggest to add both of us as uploaders and to add [EMAIL PROTECTED] as maintainer. What do other debian-boot members think about that? That'd be perfect for me. I'll put up a new version using the Install Team as the maintainers, with debian-boot as the email address, and the two of us as uploaders unless someone on the list has any objections. I tink it would be best to ask fr a sponsor on debian-boot. I hope Petter or Joey Hess could do the upload. I actually asked Branden Robinson, and he agreed to do it. Since he knows the package very well, I thought he'd be perfect for it. - David Nusinow signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: German translation for d-i
Hi, Am So, den 14.12.2003 schrieb Christian Perrier um 16:23: * Jan Lübbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 11:45]: I read in another mail on this list that Anonymous CVS is disabled. How would i access the current sources? You can access http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer Not ideal, I know, but at least it works. And you'll only need a few .po files anyway. http://people.debian.org/~barbier/d-i/l10n/ is easier to work with for translators. When you have completed a translation, then file a bug against the package so that the translation may be commited (when the CVS server will be up and running, I guess) So i downloaded these files and i could start translating them with i.e. gtranslator (which looks quite easy to use). Against which package should i file the bug? debian-installer? Should i attach a diff or just the whole .po file? I'm really surprised to see german translations only at 23%. Looks like it's time to involve more german translation team people in the debian-installer translation process. Thorsten Sauter: You are mentioned as the translator of some de files. Do you want me to update these files? I seem to remember that most german translators wirk with Grisu's DDTP for po-debconf translations. No idea whether it's really appropriate for d-i stuff (the french team does no use DDTP at all for (po-)debconf stuff). Here is a discussion about using DDTP for d-i: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200311/msg00839.html Jan Lübbe signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
lithuanian po-debconf translation
Hi, In attachement there are initial lithuanian po-debconf translation for autopartkit, cdrom-checker and iso-scan. -- Kstutis Bilinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] d-i.lt.tar.gz Description: application/compressed-tar
Re: netcfg debconf templates - please review
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 15:05, Matt Kraai wrote: On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 08:18:45AM +, Oliver Elphick wrote: @@ -101,7 +101,7 @@ Template: netcfg/internal-plip Type: text -_Description: Parallel-line IP +_Description: Parallel-port IP The acronym is PLIP, so I think we should stick with the original. Oh I see. I suppose so, then, but I had never heard the phrase parallel line used beofre. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight, UK http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C But I will hope continually, and will yet praise thee more and more. Psalms 71:14 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: status of pppoe support in d-i ?
Marco d'Itri wrote: No. I tried talking with joeyh on IRC multiple times, but I still have not been able to get hold of him. My request is to include ppp-udeb in the netinst initrd image. We should be able to include it in the cd image, once it's working. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Status of Debian installer
What is the status of the installer? Links to the debain server are down, as of today, I can't log into the anonymous cvs. The image dated 22 Nov does not write a LILO to boot to on my system. -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: German translation for d-i
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:13:26PM +0100, Jan Lübbe wrote: [...] So i downloaded these files and i could start translating them with i.e. gtranslator (which looks quite easy to use). Against which package should i file the bug? debian-installer? Under the de/ subdirectory you can find: * base-config_de.po for the base-config package, this file is base-config/debian/po/de.po * de.po which is a concatenation of all debian-installer_*_de.po files; this file is only useful to track down inconsistencies betwwen files, and must not be translated directly. * debian-installer_*_de.po are de.po files for all debian-installer components. Their name is obtained by replacing / by _ in file full path (but the debian/po part is removed), e.g. debian-installer_tools_lilo-installer_de.po is similar to debian-installer/tools/lilo-installer/debian/po/de.po and package name is lilo-installer, so you should file a bug against this package. Please flag your bugreports with the d-i tag. Should i attach a diff or just the whole .po file? The whole file. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions
* Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 18:19]: | On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:51:17PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: | | Is fdisk supposed to work on all platforms supported by debian installer ?? | hmm. no. You can use parted to do this. Imho it's supported on all | architectures. | | No, it is not. It lacks at least support for IBM Disklabels. yes. that's true. But this is a bug in parted and must be included into libparted. But fdisk will never support _all_ archs. Bye Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions
* Daniele Nicolodi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 20:39]: | On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:19:00PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: | On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:51:17PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: | | Is fdisk supposed to work on all platforms supported by debian installer ?? | hmm. no. You can use parted to do this. Imho it's supported on all | architectures. | | What about list all available partitions (listed in /proc/partitions) ? | I hope that a person who install lvm know what he's doing. We must also | list all unpartioned disks because a lvm vg could be created also on a | unpartitioned disk. sounds like the easiest way. But LVM needs a 8e partition type. If you display all partitions then you must catch this error during the pvcreate phase. So you maybe move the problem to an other postition. Isn't it? Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installation report on CDROM-less machine
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 02:42:40AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 06:18:15PM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote: | OK, so I got a copy of debian-installer CVS and tried to create the | netboot initrd. After installing some needed packages I was struck by | libdiscover1 being installed (1.5-1.4.2) but not installable :-) Is it | libdiscover1-udeb that is needed? Nope, you need to patch build/get-packages as described by Geert Stappers: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00507.html OK. Thanks. | In section 2.4 Booting from Network it says: | | It's also possible to boot debian-installer completely from the net. The | various methods to netboot depend on your architecture and netboot setup. | They are not explaind here. | | I assume that info will be included in the final docs. One would hope so :-) | A few old NICs (e.g. DEC Etherworks III) | are supported by netboot (here netboot refers to the netboot | package, e.g. netboot_0.8.1-9_i386.deb) but not etherboot, but I don't | see the need for netboot support. According to man mknbi, the same image will work with both netboot and etherboot. Good then. | The last part of section 2.4 Booting from Network says: | | 'The netboot-initrd.gz is needed to netboot debian-installer. It contains | only essential d-i modules to get the network up and running, everything | else (d-i components and base packages) will be retrieved from network. | If you don't have a netboot setup, you can also make a bootable CD with | this image and have a minimal netinst CD.' | | Now, for pxe clients, netboot-initrd.gz works out of the box, This sounds wrong to me. I've never used PXE, but I was under the impression that PXE needs its own bootloader, distinct from mknbi, to tag the image. man mknbi mentions PXELINUX in that context... As I understand it, PXELINUX is executed BY THE CLIENT, as the first (or second, depending on how you see it) stage in the pxe boot process. I might be totally off here, since I have never used pxe, but that is how I make sense of the procedure described here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/2003/debian-testing-200311/msg00098.html etherboot and pxe seem to differ at the moment where tagging is done. For etherboot, it is done on the server by mknbi-linux prior to booting, for pxe it is done at boot-time by pxelinux running at the client using a config file which is hosted by the server. The info about kernel options needed will be given as command line arguments to mknbi, or in the case of pxe, be written to a config file. People willing to try to netboot (x86 clients) into debian-installer, would likely be familiar with either pxe or etherboot and the information in http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00507.html and yours earlier in this thread is probably sufficient. So, the convenience of a pretagged file with kernel+netboot-initrd.gz for etherboot is probably not worth the space it would use up. -- Hans Ekbrand (http://sociologi.cjb.net) [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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my experiences withthe new Debian installer
it's a significant improvement of the previous version however installation process is still very expert friendly. I highly recommend taking a look at the xandros install process. Half a dozen steps and you have a usable system. Issues: If you do not have an ethernet cable plug-in during DHCP address acquisition, retrying with a cable plugged in does not acquire an address. Disk formatting process is still quite expert friendly. The two-step process of allocating storage and choosing a file system followed by choosing a file system is disconcerting the first time one encounters it. One should just allocate storage then choose a file system is a second step or, preferably do everything in one screen namely allocate storage, choose file system type, choose mount point. On the screen configure and mount partitions, it does not show the partitions I created in the previous step. It shows the NTFS partition, selling determined partition rather than the Linux and Linux swap partitions I had created. the subsequent interface flow selecting file system and mount point is quite nice. any way of making the allocation process part of this flow? enabling shadow passwords question is expert friendly but if there's ever a streamlined path, just assume a yes. the X11 install is still as (un)friendly as ever. I have been spoiled by the likes of Xandros and Windows because they just figure out what video card is present without requiring someone to pull the top of the system, and intuit video card profile from either the remnants of silkscreening or an FCC ID number. Remember, I'm using a Frankenstein box here. My selection process for video card was minimum dust and a 15 pin connector on the back that fits a video cable. I don't believe my junk box has a video card that was manufactured before 1997. And yes, Windows 2000 and Xandros both properly identified the card but, bright person that I am, I forgot to it write down. so now I have my boot prompt, X doesn't run because I didn't even try to get the settings right. My overall impression is that the new installer is an improvement over the previous one. And for that, people are to be thanked. On the downside, there are still way too many decisions to be made. The vast majority of them are minutia that makes a difference to a very small segment of the population and drives everyone else crazy. Personally, I would be happy with a 15 (give or take) step install which asks the basic questions of network configuration(DHCP/static), partitioning disk (how many, how much for each one, format, and mount point), which packages would I like to start with, root password and go-don't bother me until you are done. for me, an install should be 15 minutes of questions and answers and then I should hear nothing from the process or need to pay any attention to it it is done. Again, I think you have made a significant improvement. I know how difficult it is to sometimes make the amount of change necessary happened on volunteer efforts. You have done good and please don't let my criticisms detract from that. I'm looking forward to trying out the next beta. ---eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#214347: marked as done (russian PO-file translation for elilo-installer package)
Your message dated Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:17:08 -0500 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Bug#214347: fixed in elilo-installer 0.0.2 has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 6 Oct 2003 08:23:33 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 06 03:23:24 2003 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mail.ufamts.ru [213.24.116.135] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1A6QeK-0001yY-00; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 03:23:24 -0500 Received: from nw132.bashtelecom.ru ([213.24.116.132] helo=localhost) by mail.ufamts.ru with esmtp id 1A6QeJ-0001xa-1Q for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 06 Oct 2003 14:23:23 +0600 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ilgiz Kalmetev [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Perl script po_send using Mail::Sender 0.7.14.1 by Jenda Krynicky running on localhost (127.0.0.1) under account Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 14:23:10 +0600 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: russian PO-file translation for elilo-installer package MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary=Message-Boundary-by-Mail-Sender-1065428586 X-SA-Do-Not-Run: Yes Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_PACKAGE version=2.53-bugs.debian.org_2003_10_05 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53-bugs.debian.org_2003_10_05 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) --Message-Boundary-by-Mail-Sender-1065428586 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: Mail message body Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Package: elilo-installer Version: 0.0.1 This is new/fixed russian translation of po-file for elilo-installer package. -- Ilgiz Kalmetev --Message-Boundary-by-Mail-Sender-1065428586 Content-type: application/octet-stream; name=elilo-installer_0.0.1.po; type=Unknown; Content-description: elilo-installer_0.0.1.po Content-transfer-encoding: BASE64 Content-disposition: attachment IyB0cmFuc2xhdGlvbiBvZiBlbGlsby1pbnN0YWxsZXJfMC4wLjEucG8gdG8gcnVzc2lhbgojCiMg ICAgVHJhbnNsYXRvcnMsIGlmIHlvdSBhcmUgbm90IGZhbWlsaWFyIHdpdGggdGhlIFBPIGZvcm1h dCwgZ2V0dGV4dAojICAgIGRvY3VtZW50YXRpb24gaXMgd29ydGggcmVhZGluZywgZXNwZWNpYWxs eSBzZWN0aW9ucyBkZWRpY2F0ZWQgdG8KIyAgICB0aGlzIGZvcm1hdCwgZS5nLiBieSBydW5uaW5n OgojICAgICAgICAgaW5mbyAtbiAnKGdldHRleHQpUE8gRmlsZXMnCiMgICAgICAgICBpbmZvIC1u ICcoZ2V0dGV4dClIZWFkZXIgRW50cnknCiMgICAgU29tZSBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbiBzcGVjaWZpYyB0 byBwby1kZWJjb25mIGFyZSBhdmFpbGFibGUgYXQKIyAgICAgICAgICAgIC91c3Ivc2hhcmUvZG9j L3BvLWRlYmNvbmYvUkVBRE1FLXRyYW5zCiMgICAgICAgICBvciBodHRwOi8vd3d3LmRlYmlhbi5v cmcvaW50bC9sMTBuL3BvLWRlYmNvbmYvUkVBRE1FLXRyYW5zIwojICAgIERldmVsb3BlcnMgZG8g bm90IG5lZWQgdG8gbWFudWFsbHkgZWRpdCBQT1Qgb3IgUE8gZmlsZXMuCiMKbXNnaWQgIiIKbXNn c3RyICIiCiJQcm9qZWN0LUlkLVZlcnNpb246IGVsaWxvLWluc3RhbGxlcl8wLjAuMVxuIgoiUE9U LUNyZWF0aW9uLURhdGU6IDIwMDItMTEtMjEgMTU6MzAtMDcwMFxuIgoiUE8tUmV2aXNpb24tRGF0 ZTogMjAwMy0xMC0wNCAyMzoxMCswNjAwXG4iCiJMYXN0LVRyYW5zbGF0b3I6IElsZ2l6IEthbG1l dGV2IDx0cmFuc2xhdG9yQGlsZ2l6LnBwLnJ1PlxuIgoiTGFuZ3VhZ2UtVGVhbTogcnVzc2lhbiA8 ZGViaWFuLXJ1c3NpYW5AbGlzdHMuZGViaWFuLm9yZz5cbiIKIk1JTUUtVmVyc2lvbjogMS4wXG4i CiJDb250ZW50LVR5cGU6IHRleHQvcGxhaW47IGNoYXJzZXQ9S09JOC1SXG4iCiJDb250ZW50LVRy YW5zZmVyLUVuY29kaW5nOiA4Yml0XG4iCiJYLUdlbmVyYXRvcjogS0JhYmVsIDEuMC4xXG4iCgoj LiBEZXNjcmlwdGlvbgojOiAuLi9lbGlsby1pbnN0YWxsZXIudGVtcGxhdGVzOjQKbXNnaWQgIk9u IHdoaWNoIGRldmljZSBzaG91bGQgZWxpbG8gaW5zdGFsbCB0aGUgYm9vdCBibG9jaz8iCm1zZ3N0 ciAi7sEgy8HLz8Ug1dPU0s/K09TXzyBlbGlsbyDEz8zWxc4g1dPUwc7P18nU2CDawcfS1drP3s7Z yiDCzM/LPyIKCiMuIERlc2NyaXB0aW9uCiM6IC4uL2VsaWxvLWluc3RhbGxlci50ZW1wbGF0ZXM6 NAptc2dpZCAiIgoiZWxpbG8gc2hvdWxkIGluc3RhbGwgdGhlIGJvb3QgYmxvY2sgb24gYSBib290 YWJsZSBkZXZpY2UuIFRoaXMgaXMgdXN1YWxseSAiCiJ0aGUgZmlyc3QgaGFyZCBkcml2ZSwgYnV0 IGNvdWxkIGJlIGluIGEgcGFydGl0aW9uIGlmIHlvdSB3YW50IHRvIHVzZSBhbm90aGVyICIKImJv b3QgbWFuYWdlciBhcyB0aGUgcHJpbWFyeSBib290IG1hbmFnZXIuIgptc2dzdHIgIiIKImVsaWxv IMTPzNbFziDV09TBzs/XydTYINrBx9LV2s/eztnKIMLMz8sgzsEg2sHH0tXaz97Oz8Ug1dPU0s/K 09TXzy4g78LZ3s7PLCAiCiLc1M8g0MXS19nKINbF09TLycogxMnTyywgzs8g3NTPIM3P1sXUIMLZ 1NggySDSwdrExcwsIMXTzMkg99kgyM/UydTFIMnT0M/M2NrP18HU2CAiCiLXIMvB3sXT1NfFINDF 0tfJ3s7Px88g08nT1MXNzs/HzyDawcfS1dreycvBIMTS1cfPyiDTydPUxc3O2cog2sHH0tXa3snL LiIKCg== --Message-Boundary-by-Mail-Sender-1065428586-- --- Received: (at 214347-close) by bugs.debian.org; 15 Dec 2003 03:45:48 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 14 21:45:47 2003 Return-path: [EMAIL
Bug#218568: marked as done (elilo-installer: Debconf templates polishing)
Your message dated Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:17:08 -0500 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Bug#218568: fixed in elilo-installer 0.0.2 has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 1 Nov 2003 09:12:18 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat Nov 01 03:12:08 2003 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from lns-th2-5f-81-56-227-253.adsl.proxad.net (kheops.homeunix.org) [81.56.227.253] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1AFrni-0006e9-00; Sat, 01 Nov 2003 03:12:06 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kheops.homeunix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CDBD4058; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:12:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from kheops.homeunix.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (kheops [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21336-10; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:11:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org (mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org [192.168.1.3]) by kheops.homeunix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53416405A; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:11:41 +0100 (CET) Received: by mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org (Postfix, from userid 7426) id 2AA6CD06A; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:16:55 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary1184639045== MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Bug Tracking System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: elilo-installer: Debconf templates polishing X-Mailer: reportbug 2.36 Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 09:16:54 +0100 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p5 (Debian) at kheops.frmug.org Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-9.4 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_10,HAS_PACKAGE,PATCH_UNIFIED_DIFF autolearn=ham version=2.53-bugs.debian.org_2003_10_31 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53-bugs.debian.org_2003_10_31 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) This is a multi-part MIME message sent by reportbug. --===1184639045== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Package: elilo-installer Severity: normal Tags: patch d-i See other debconf templates polishing BRs for boot loader installers. Apart from the usual changes, I added the following one : - There were no suitable partitions found for elilo to use. elilo needs + There were no suitable partitions found for elilo to use. Elilo needs ^ Not sure for English, but in French all sentences should start by a capital letter. So I guess it's the same in English. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux mykerinos 2.4.22 #2 Mon Sep 29 15:12:10 CEST 2003 i686 Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (ignored: LC_ALL set to fr_FR.UTF-8) --===1184639045== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=patch --- elilo-installer.templates.ori 2003-11-01 09:08:36.0 +0100 +++ elilo-installer.templates 2003-11-01 09:09:33.0 +0100 @@ -1,12 +1,12 @@ Template: elilo-installer/bootpart Type: select Choices: ${BOOTPARTS} -_Description: Please select the partition on which you want elilo installed. +_Description: Partition for boot loader installation: Partitions currently available in your system are listed. Please choose the one you want elilo to use to boot Debian. Template: elilo-installer/no-bootpart -Type: note +Type: error _Description: No boot partitions detected - There were no suitable partitions found for elilo to use. elilo needs + There were no suitable partitions found for elilo to use. Elilo needs a partition with a FAT filesystem, and the boot flag set. --===1184639045==-- --- Received: (at 218568-close) by bugs.debian.org; 15 Dec 2003 04:32:01 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Dec 14 22:32:01 2003 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from auric.debian.org [206.246.226.45] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1AVjK2-000710-00; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:23:02 -0600 Received: from katie by auric.debian.org with local (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1AVjEK-kp-00; Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:17:08 -0500 From: dann frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Katie: $Revision: 1.43 $
Trying to boot after Debian installer ran
I have run the debian installer, installed a base system, chose the default LILO install choice. The installer did NOT wright (I watched the drive light to verify this, it SHOULD have written) to the disk, system re-booted. I have mounted the Debian partitions to examine them. Debian root = hdb6 with /boot as a sub dir. Here is the contents of Debian /boot: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/Debianboot/boot$ ls -l total 4568 -rw-r--r--1 root root 518609 Oct 3 23:59 System.map-2.4.22-1-386 -rw-r--r--1 root root 512 Dec 14 09:46 boot.0340 -rw-r--r--1 root root42261 Sep 27 03:17 config-2.4.22-1-386 -rw-r--r--1 root root 3264512 Dec 14 09:45 initrd.img-2.4.22-1-386 -rw---1 root root53760 Dec 14 09:46 map -rw-r--r--1 root root 769886 Oct 3 23:59 vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 Here is my grub menu.lst: titleLibranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.23 NEW root(hd0,5) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.23 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi vga=792 savedefault boot titleLibranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.23 (single user mode) root(hd0,5) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.23 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi single savedefault boot titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.22-1-386 root(hd1,5) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 root=/dev/hdb6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi savedefault boot The above Debain GNU/Linux entry will boot, but stops with an error message cant find image, please amend root= entry to the correct root image or words to that effect. Here is the question: Given the above, how can I get Debian to boot? cd into the Debain / (while running Libranet) and run lilo? Modify in some unknown to me way the above grub entry? I have removed the hdc=scsi entries. I have changed values for (hd1,5) and /dev/hdb6 on the chance that my understanding was flawed. I have found a different source for the iso image and downloaded/burned/loaded it. The Installer worked very well, except it seems to fail in allowing me access to my new shiny base system!!! Talk about security! The distro was sarge, ext3 was chosen for file systems, hdb6 /, hdb7 /home, hdb5 /var (as reiserfs). All partitions seem written to with out errors (as checked out from Libranet). -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trying to boot after Debian installer ran
Damon L. Chesser wrote: I have run the debian installer, installed a base system, chose the default LILO install choice. The installer did NOT wright (I watched the drive light to verify this, it SHOULD have written) to the disk, system re-booted. I have mounted the Debian partitions to examine them. Debian root = hdb6 with /boot as a sub dir. Here is the contents of Debian /boot: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/Debianboot/boot$ ls -l total 4568 -rw-r--r--1 root root 518609 Oct 3 23:59 System.map-2.4.22-1-386 -rw-r--r--1 root root 512 Dec 14 09:46 boot.0340 -rw-r--r--1 root root42261 Sep 27 03:17 config-2.4.22-1-386 -rw-r--r--1 root root 3264512 Dec 14 09:45 initrd.img-2.4.22-1-386 -rw---1 root root53760 Dec 14 09:46 map -rw-r--r--1 root root 769886 Oct 3 23:59 vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 Here is my grub menu.lst: titleLibranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.23 NEW root(hd0,5) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.23 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi vga=792 savedefault boot titleLibranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.23 (single user mode) root(hd0,5) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.23 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi single savedefault boot titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.22-1-386 root(hd1,5) kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 root=/dev/hdb6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi savedefault boot The above Debain GNU/Linux entry will boot, but stops with an error message cant find image, please amend root= entry to the correct root image or words to that effect. Here is the question: Given the above, how can I get Debian to boot? cd into the Debain / (while running Libranet) and run lilo? Modify in some unknown to me way the above grub entry? I have removed the hdc=scsi entries. I have changed values for (hd1,5) and /dev/hdb6 on the chance that my understanding was flawed. I have found a different source for the iso image and downloaded/burned/loaded it. The Installer worked very well, except it seems to fail in allowing me access to my new shiny base system!!! Talk about security! The distro was sarge, ext3 was chosen for file systems, hdb6 /, hdb7 /home, hdb5 /var (as reiserfs). All partitions seem written to with out errors (as checked out from Libranet). Hi, I don't know much about this. I used to have some similar problems which were solved by using the idebus option while booting I used idebus=66 U might need to check the boot options for ur specific coniguration. panda -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trying to boot after Debian installer ran
On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 16:16, Damon L. Chesser wrote: Snip This got it going: (grub menu.lst of Libranet) title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.22-1-386 root(hd1,5) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 root=/dev/hdb6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.4.22-1-386 **this line WAS missning and adding it makes it work savedefault boot -- Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]