Re: Could not build the last CVS version

2003-12-14 Thread Nowicki Christophe

Hi all,

 Nowicki Christophe wrote:
 [snip]
 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
   discover-udeb: Depends: libdiscover1 but it is not installable
 E: Broken packages
 make: *** [cdrom-get_udebs-stamp] Error 100
 [snip]
 I'am running Debian GNU/Linux unstable.

 Maybe I can not build the d-i image with my version of Debian?

 The list archive of debian-boot should have a thread this issue.
 IIRC it needs an one-liner fix in build/get-packages.
Thank you very much.
I've found a fix here :
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00425.html
Now this part of the build process is working.

But I can't build the d-i because I'am running a 2.6.0-test9 kernel.

make cdrom fail with this error :

mkdir -p ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib/modules/2.4.22-1-386/kernel; depmod -q -a -b
./tmp/cdrom/tree/ 2.4.22-1-386;
depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented

I've found a old thread about this build problem here :
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200303/msg00157.html

This error was not fixed yet :(

I can only build the d-i on a kernel 2.4 ?

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Re: Could not build the last CVS version

2003-12-14 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nowicki Christophe wrote:
[snip]
  The list archive of debian-boot should have a thread this issue.
  IIRC it needs an one-liner fix in build/get-packages.
 Thank you very much.
 I've found a fix here :
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00425.html
 Now this part of the build process is working.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00507.html
is AFAIK the better workaround.

 But I can't build the d-i because I'am running a 2.6.0-test9 kernel.
 
 make cdrom fail with this error :
 
 mkdir -p ./tmp/cdrom/tree/lib/modules/2.4.22-1-386/kernel; depmod -q -a -b
 ./tmp/cdrom/tree/ 2.4.22-1-386;
 depmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented
 
 I've found a old thread about this build problem here :
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200303/msg00157.html
 
 This error was not fixed yet :(
 
 I can only build the d-i on a kernel 2.4 ?

As it stands, you need a running debian 2.4 kernel with modules support.


Thiemo


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Proposal for languagechooser and language list

2003-12-14 Thread Christian Perrier
First of all, sorry for just putting ideas in this mail and not
propose any implementation. I'm afraid my skills are too low for
proposing anything but really bad code. Not speaking of time
lacking..:-)


The current language list (which is the very first prompt a user
sees when installing Debian) is not really satisfactory (imho, of
course).

The list is alphabetically sorted with all choices being translation
of the english sentence Choose this to proceed in xx


Thus, hungarian comes first (because of its leading A), then french
variants (because I translated as Choisissez which comes before
Choose) and so on...

There were a few proposals recently for changing this to simpler
choices, for instance only language names.

The variants also induce some confusion by macking the list a bit too
long.

Here are my proposal :

-change this to a 2 stage process : first choose the language
(e.g. Français). Then choose the country variant (is Français is
chosen, the user chooses between Belgique, Canada, France, Luxembourg,
Suisse)

-simplfy the sentence : just keep the language names (translated, just
like they currently are)

-find a rule for sorting languages :
 -English (which is the default) should come first
 -Sort other languages. Below are some proposals:
-alphabetically (not easy : where should double-byte languages go?)
-by translation status in Debian:
 -first sorting key--translation status for d-i
 -second sorting key--combination of translation status for
  debconf templates and programs translations (by using 
  http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/ pages when they will be
  updated again
-by numbers of people speaking these languages in the world. Many
 references may be found on this topic. For instance, by googling
 a bit, I found http://www.photius.com/rankings/languages2.html:
 -Chinese, Mandarin
 -Spanish
 -English
 -Arabic
 -Bengali
 -Hindi
 -Portuguese
 -Russian
 -Japanese
 -German
 -Chinese, Wu
 -Javanese
 -Korean
 -French
 -Turkish
 -Vietnamese
 .../... we have 50 languages listed
 This reference is an ethnological reference which lists the
 number of people *really* speaking the given language. This
 is not a sum of the populations of countries for which
 the given language is among the official languages of the
 country (I found that statistic also, but only for the Top10
  languages : http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0775272.html#A0774735)


Does somebody have comments on this?

If the 2 stage process is agreed, we will need someone for
implementing it in languagechooser. Joey, Petter, Tollef, you have for
sure a valuable opinion on this as you are listed as the major
contributors for languagechooser...



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German translation for d-i

2003-12-14 Thread Jan Lübbe
Hi,

as i read in the last d-i status report, the german translation is
at 23%. If there is a need for help there, i would translate the missing
strings.

I read in another mail on this list that Anonymous CVS is disabled. How
would i access the current sources?

Jan Lübbe


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Re: German translation for d-i

2003-12-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Jan Lübbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 11:45]:
 I read in another mail on this list that Anonymous CVS is disabled.
 How would i access the current sources?

You can access http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer
Not ideal, I know, but at least it works.  And you'll only need a few
.po files anyway.

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Re: Anonymous CVS access disabled?

2003-12-14 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 11:05:49PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
 since yesterday anonymous connections to CVS are rejected, is this
 intentional?
Seems that pserver access is disabled. I can't get files either from
webwml or debian-boot. Could someone tell me when it will be possible?

Second beta of debian-installer is coming up and I'd like to translate
some messages :/

I don't have ssh access cause I am not DD.

regards
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Re: New discover package

2003-12-14 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi David

Thank you for your work. I will have a look at it today. I would suggest
to add both of us as uploaders and to add [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as maintainer. What do other debian-boot members think about that?

Am Son, den 14.12.2003 schrieb David Nusinow um 07:18:
 Hi Gaudenz,
I've put together a new discover upload. It's got a couple of fixes
 that were fairly easy to apply, and it updates the standards version
 too. I put myself as maintainer and you as an uploader, since we don't
 have a collective email address for the maintainer field, but if you
 want to switch those two fields around, I'd be fine with that. It's
 lintian-clean, although not linda-clean yet, as making it linda clean
 would require fixing the linuxrc-isn't-executable bug, and I'm not
 ready to do that yet (you're welcome to go for it if you want)
 
The packages (i386) and all the supporting material are at
 http://www.tufts.edu/~dnusin01/discover/
Please let me know if these are Ok with you, and if so, I'll find a
 sponsor and get it uploaded.
I tink it would be best to ask fr a sponsor on debian-boot. I hope
Petter or Joey Hess could do the upload.

Gaudenz
 
  - David Nusinow


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Re: Anonymous CVS access disabled?

2003-12-14 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 01:12:46PM +0100, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 11:05:49PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote:
  since yesterday anonymous connections to CVS are rejected, is this
  intentional?
 Seems that pserver access is disabled. I can't get files either from
 webwml or debian-boot. Could someone tell me when it will be possible?
 
 Second beta of debian-installer is coming up and I'd like to translate
 some messages :/
 
 I don't have ssh access cause I am not DD.

Joey Hess told in
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00584.html
that pserver has been shut down, no idea when it is back.
For debian-boot stuff, you can get PO files from
  http://people.debian.org/~barbier/d-i/l10n/
and submit bugreports to have them committed.
These pages are updated from time to time because cronjobs on gluck are
also disabled.

Denis


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Re: d-i CD images unavailable?

2003-12-14 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Am Son, den 14.12.2003 schrieb Harald Dunkel um 15:59:
 Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
  Am Sam, den 13.12.2003 schrieb Harald Dunkel um 18:03:
 
 I would be very interested in creating a netinst CD based on
 kernel 2.6.0-test11 (or newer). Is there some kind of README
 about how the current netinst images for 2.4 are generated?
Look at the source of d-i and debian-cd. Unfortunately there is no
readme about the whole process. For 2.6 look at the message dan weber
posted to debian-boot one or two days ago. There is some work which
needs to be done to support 2.6 in d-i.

Gaudenz


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Re: d-i CD images unavailable?

2003-12-14 Thread Harald Dunkel
Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
Am Sam, den 13.12.2003 schrieb Harald Dunkel um 18:03:

Hi folks,

Seems that the links pointing to the CD images on
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ are
broken. Is there a description somewhere how to
create the CD images?
try 
http://www.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de/~sebastian.ley/d-i/ (i386) or
http://www.soziologie.ch/~steinlin/d-i/powerpc/ (powerpc)

Thanx for the pointer, but I hoped to find a more recent
image.
We are trying to restore the cd building process. We hope there are new
images in the next few days.
gaudenz


I would be very interested in creating a netinst CD based on
kernel 2.6.0-test11 (or newer). Is there some kind of README
about how the current netinst images for 2.4 are generated?
Regards

Harri

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Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions

2003-12-14 Thread Thorsten Sauter
* Daniele Nicolodi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-12 14:13]:
| The lvmcfg script depends on find-partitions to get a list of partition
| where is possibile to build a volume group. find-partition as changed is
| output in a (recent ?) update and now it doesn't report the type of
| partitions but the filesystem type. For that reason lvmcfg is completely
| inusable.
| 
| I hope this will be fixed soon, at least before the next beta of the
| debian installer. If someone suggest me the right way to fix the problem
| i can try to submit a patch.

you can write a work-around for find-partitions:

 1. read /proc/partitions for disks
 2. fdisk each disk, and grep for 0x8e


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Re: German translation for d-i

2003-12-14 Thread Thorsten Sauter

* Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 11:49]:
| * Jan Lübbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 11:45]:
|  I read in another mail on this list that Anonymous CVS is disabled.
|  How would i access the current sources?
| 
| You can access http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer
| Not ideal, I know, but at least it works.  And you'll only need a few
| .po files anyway.

maybe we can export the d-i cvs tree on gluck?
and provide a tarball for such contributors.



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Re: Minor problems with the installer

2003-12-14 Thread Joey Hess
I'm sorry for the delay in answering your installation report. As fas as
I can see, nobody else did yet, so here goes..

Oliver Gerlich wrote:
 Hello,
 a few days ago I installed Debian Sarge using the netinst ISO files. 
 Besides some problems with booting from CD (I think my CD-writer is to 
 blame for that) the installation succeeded. But I have noticed these 
 (minor) flaws:
 
 - How do I install without DHCP? My PC is behind a router without DHCP
 (IPs and everything is configured by hand). But the installer tried to
 detect a DHCP server again and again. In the end I set up a DHCP on the 
 router to get the installetion working. I remember that the Woody 
 installer let me type in my configuration by hand.

Actually, the version you used does let you do that, you just have to
find the manual network configuration menu item, and after you do that
it will stop the annoying dhcp stuff.

This is fixed better in the daily d-i builds. They will try dhcp for 10
seconds, and then make it very easy for you to go on and do a manual
configuration if dhcp didn't work.

 - The cursor keys for the Previous and Forward (Zurück and
 Weiter in german) buttons are interchanged, at least on the first
 reboot-dialog. That means that the arrow-right keys selects the
 Previous button and vice versa. (I used the Dialog installer).

Fixed in the daily builds.

 - Selecting the right installation source was a bit misleading. 
 Initially the CDROM was selected as install source - I wanted to do a 
 netinstall and only had the small ISO image. And when there appeared a 
 dialog asking if I wanted to add other APT-sources I didn't know that 
 there weren't any servers selected so far, so I said No. Only when 
 tasksel didn't show me very much I realized that I should have added 
 some sources in the beginning.

Good observation. This is fixed in my tree for base-config 2.01 and will
enter the distribution soon.

Newer versions of base-config also let you back out from most points and
get a menu of choices, which would have let you revisit apt setup.

 And after the installation I saw that unnecessarily the CD was still in 
 the apt-conf file, and that the contrib and non-free entries were 
 missing. The installation should at least indicate this.

I'm not sure if removing the entry for the netinst CD is worth the
bother. Does it cause problems?

The installer does not bother with non-free any more, unless you do a
expert mode (DEBCONF_PRIORITY=low) install. There is so little reason to
use non-free that it does not bother me to make those who want it go a
little out of their way to get it, like they have to for any other
non-debian apt repository.

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Re: EVMS doesn't work!!

2003-12-14 Thread Joey Hess
Daniele Nicolodi wrote:
 I have tried to configure evms from debian installer. It doesnt work.
 i have loaded evms-udeb installer module and md kernel modules then i
 have selcted evmsconfig from main menu but yhe configurator doesn't
 start tup. I have tried to start evmsn from console and i get a library
 not found error. This is with image from
 http://www.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de/~sebastian.ley/d-i/

You should probably file a bug on evms-udeb; it is not maintained by
this list, and I'm not sure if Matt Zimmerman reads this list.

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Re: Install report

2003-12-14 Thread Joey Hess
Jukka Neppius wrote:
 1. No documents!  The page
 http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ has a promising link to
 The Debian-Installer's INSTALLATION HOWTO.  Unfortunately it does
 not give anything.

I think you'll find that link is working now. We're still in the process
of restoring services after the recent security breach of the Debian
servers.

 2. Guessing name of the first boot diskette was easy.  2. took some
 time.  If first diskette asks for 2. boot floppy, there should be a
 file bootfloppy2.img (or something like it).  Rootfloppy.img would
 also be good name, but then boot floppy should ask for it.

The INSTALLATION-HOWTO makes it much easier, but we do plan to rename
these images, particularly the badly named floppy image, in the future.

 3. I wanted to install from network.  Two boot floppies found network
 interface from Epox 8K9A71 motherboard.  Everything went well until
 installer wanted to configure CD-drive.  Installer refused to believe
 that there is no CD-drive!  I can get debs from local network easier
 than from CD, so I didn't install a CD drive.  I was able to finish
 installation by selecting next installation step from the menu.  After
 each step installer wanted to configure non existing CD.

This is a known problem that's on our list to fix.

 4. Keyboard configuration was easy as usual. Unfortunately after first
 boot Debian had forgotten that I don't have US keyboard.

This is a base-config bug, and is fixed in the version of base-config in
unstable. I'm not sure if that version of base-config has made it to
testing yet, but it will eventually.

 5. An old problem: I usually make a 'small' root partition.
 (currently it should be about 150 MB, my first Linux computer had
 total 80 MB disk space.)  This computer had relatively small disk, so
 I made only /  /usr. I should have made symlinks /var - /usr/var ...
 I forget that while trying to configure non existing CD, so I run out
 of disk space.  Tasksel did hide the error message so I had to use old
 reliable dselect. It told immediately what is the problem.  Fix was
 easy.  Perhaps installer could check the size of / and if it is small
 and not all big partition were made, ask user where /var should be
 moved (same with /usr, /home, /tmp).

How exactly did tasksel hide the error message?

I don't think that having the installer make symlinks would be very
good. It would be good if it tried to ensure that the disk sizes were
sane, but of course different people's definitions of sane varies in
this area.

 Result was working system. Network and sound drivers were found
 automatically. 

Good deal, you should fill out the installation report template you'll
find in /root, and file a proper install report with that template that
includes the hardware you installed to so we can track it.

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Re: Debian Installer: Install Falls

2003-12-14 Thread Joey Hess
Hi, you filed three reports of apparently three different installs to
the same laptop, and reported hangs at three different places:

  #1 while running fdisk, which could not see your drive
  #2 while performing a usb-discover, apparently in the middle of
 downloading d-i components from the net; except usb-discover should
 not be downloaded then, and would not be run; it is run while the
 installer boots up long before that
  #3 just after loading the driver for your network card, which
 apparently failed, and then it hung

This leaves me wondering what exactly you mean by the installer hanging.
Is it completly frozen, so that caps lock and num lock cannot be turned
off or on, and nothing you type has an effect, even alt-f2 to switch
virtual consoles? Or is this some other variety of problem? Do you get a
kernel oops message on the screen?

Having three kernel crashes at the three spots you described would be
most strange. In install #1 you got way past where you did in #2, which
is in turn quite further than #3. The three actions the installer would
be performing at those three points are quite different, and do not even
involve the same hardware in #1 as in #2 and #3. It also should not even
really be accessing hardware in #1 and #3, as you describe it as just
displaying an error message after an attempt to access the hardware
hung. It's possible that the kernel just likes to hang on your laptop
after X minutes of uptime, or semi-randomly, of course.

Without more information, it's unlikely anyone can help. 

 - Where did you get the daily version of the installer that you are
   using, and what was the build date?
 - Was there anything else different between the three installation
   attempts besides the different means you used to boot the installer?
 - What exactly was on the screen during hang #2?
 - Can you reproduce any of these hangs, or does it hang in other
   strange and unlikly places?
 - Can you boot up the installer, and, before it hangs, use the second
   virtual console to write a copy of the dmesg output to a floppy, and
   send it to us?
 - If you can reproduce any of the hangs, then right before you know
   it's going to hang, press alt-f4 to switch to the virtual console
   displaying the logs. Watch the logs, and right after it's hung, copy
   down the last three or four lines of information for us.

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Re: d-i CD images unavailable?

2003-12-14 Thread Joey Hess
Harald Dunkel wrote:
 Seems that the links pointing to the CD images on
 http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ are
 broken. Is there a description somewhere how to
 create the CD images?

On November 21st, several Debian machines, including some that hosted part of
the debian-installer infrastructure, were compromised by an attacker.
debian-installer is now mostly recovered from this incident, but there is
currently no access to beta 1 CD images, or some daily builds, that were
hosted on the compromised machine. A few developers have made known good
snapshots from past daily builds available:

  * i386 http://www.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de/~sebastian.ley/d-i/
  * powerpc http://www.soziologie.ch/~steinlin/d-i/powerpc/

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Re: sarge INSTALL REPORT - how set IP hostname?

2003-12-14 Thread Joey Hess
Sebastian Haase wrote:
 It seems like it found my hardware fine: the ethernet card 
 works and DHCP gets automatically configured.
 BUT: I don't want DHCP - I am missing the question where I 
 can specify my static IP.
 Also I always ended up with hostname being 'localhost'.

You need to boot in expert mode, with DEBCONF_PRIORITY=low added to the
boot line at the boot prompt, then you'll be able to tell it to skip
dhcp and do a manual entry.

I think that not noticing that dhcp didn't provide a hostname, and not
prompting manually for one is a bug in our netcfg program.

 Often after reboot I can't read the CDROM drive anymore - 
 I can fix that with modconf by deinstalling the scsi-ide 
 module.

Please send details about what model of CD drive you have. I have also
seen this with my new test laptop (kindly provided courtesy of Linux
Certified, Inc, plug plug), but more data points would be good.

 Is there a command to set the network configuration 
 afterwards ? And change the hostname ?

Not currently, there is a bug on base-config asking for this. You'll
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Re: Installation reporting on HP Proliant ML350 with Smartarray

2003-12-14 Thread Joey Hess
I apologise for the delay in responding to your installation report. As
far as I can see nobody else did, so here goes..

Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
 Some problems in installation:
 
 * d-i does not recognize ethernet (tg3) and controller (cciss for 641 series)
   I loaded by hand modules and proceeded. I could send pci ids
   in a couple of days.

It'd be good if you'd send those pci ids, this should be easy to fix.

 * kernel installation failed
   The problem is that the root /dev/cciss/disc/disc0/part1 path is not
   correctly managed by mkinitrd and it creates a 0byte file.
   The installation succeded by hand using a traditional
   device name -r /dev/cciss/c0d0p1, customizing in chroot /target
   the /etc/mkinitrd/modules to add cciss support, creating
   lilo.conf by hand (with non devfs device names) and running 
   lilo. 

Sounds like you have a good handle on what was broken and why, so why
don't you file a bug report on the kernel-image-2.4.22-i386 package (or
whatever kernel package it installed) with the full details of what
mkinitrd does wrong.

   Also, manual disk partition failed and presented a
   strange list of choices:
 
   .
   .
   0
   0
   1
   1
   /
   /
   Finished
 
   or so.

I think it's having a hard time converting the smartarray's nonstandard
devices into the easily readable format it tries to use. Can you file a
bug against the partitioner package?

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Re: installer issues

2003-12-14 Thread Joey Hess
tcg wrote:
 New to the list and to Debian as well. After reading an article about the 
 installer I wanted to give it a try and had some problems. I used the daily 
 build netinst from 11/13/03.

 One problem I had was that after choosing the task-based package selection 
 method and finding it a little too broad I could not return to choose a 
 different method.

Fixed in base-config 2.00.

 Second, I was asked some questions about where to instll LILO and then 
 presented with a screen that allowed me to install GRUB, which was my 
 preference, so why question about LILO?

Sounds like someone dropped to low priority and got confused.. How could
we make it less confusing, I wonder?

 Third, GRUB was setup wrong and I had to edit it in order to boot. Maybe it 
 was because / and /boot were to separate partitions; / was on hda7 and /boot 
 was on hda1, GRUB setup the following root (hd0,6), when it needed to be 
 root (hd0,0) (it booted after the change).

I have also not had a lot of luck booting grub, unfortunatly.

 Fourth, after booting into the minimal system ad configured the apt sources I 
 kept getting errors when trying to read from the CD - ide-scsi: hdb: 
 unsupported commend in request queue (0). Maybe the burn was bad, or 
 possibly I should try the daily build instead.

I have seen this too, and will be tracking it down in the next couple of
days, I expect. Something is screwy with discover, ide-scsi, apt.

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 Please use the contact page below for any desired direct replies.
 Apologies for the inconvenience.
 
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Re: German translation for d-i

2003-12-14 Thread Christian Perrier
(added CC to debian-l10n-german)

 * Jan Lübbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 11:45]:
  I read in another mail on this list that Anonymous CVS is disabled.
  How would i access the current sources?
 
 You can access http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer
 Not ideal, I know, but at least it works.  And you'll only need a few
 .po files anyway.


  http://people.debian.org/~barbier/d-i/l10n/

is easier to work with for translators. When you have completed a
translation, then file a bug against the package so that the
translation may be commited (when the CVS server will be up and
running, I guess)

I'm really surprised to see german translations only at 23%. Looks
like it's time to involve more german translation team people in the
debian-installer translation process.

I seem to remember that most german translators wirk with Grisu's DDTP
for po-debconf translations. No idea whether it's really appropriate
for d-i stuff (the french team does no use DDTP at all for
(po-)debconf stuff).





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Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions

2003-12-14 Thread Daniele Nicolodi
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 04:51:11PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote:

 you can write a work-around for find-partitions:
 
  1. read /proc/partitions for disks
  2. fdisk each disk, and grep for 0x8e

Is fdisk supposed to work on all platforms supported by debian installer ??

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Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions

2003-12-14 Thread Thorsten Sauter
* Daniele Nicolodi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 17:20]:
| On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 04:51:11PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote:
| 
|  you can write a work-around for find-partitions:
|  
|   1. read /proc/partitions for disks
|   2. fdisk each disk, and grep for 0x8e
| 
| Is fdisk supposed to work on all platforms supported by debian installer ??

hmm. no. You can use parted to do this. Imho it's supported on all
architectures.

Bye
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Re: netcfg debconf templates - please review

2003-12-14 Thread Matt Kraai
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 08:18:45AM +, Oliver Elphick wrote:
 @@ -101,7 +101,7 @@
   
  Template: netcfg/internal-plip
  Type: text
 -_Description: Parallel-line IP
 +_Description: Parallel-port IP

The acronym is PLIP, so I think we should stick with the original.

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Client Development Specialist for Technology firms

2003-12-14 Thread Scott M. Wiseman
Title: Objective:








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Resume



Scott
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13428 Maxella Ave Ste 207
Marina Del
  Rey, CA 90292
310-967-4593

Objective:

To produce successful client engagements for a high
technology firm looking to Increase market share 
and develop brand identity for their products and service offerings.

Position
Seeking:

Senior Business
Technology Analyst / Client Development Executive

 Knowledge of relevant technologies:

 Enterprise Solutions:

 Business Intelligence and Relational databases (SQL, Oracle);

 Queuing systems (MSMQ, Oracle AQ);

 EAI Enterprise
Application Integration (Web Services, BizTalk)

 Storage Area Networks, Network Attached Storage (EMC, 

 CRM products (Microsoft CRM);

 Middleware (MTS, DCOM, COM, XML, .NET Framework, Web Services); 

 Internet protocols and products (HTTP, TCP/IP, FTP, Microsoft IIS
Web Server); 

 Content Management Systems/ Knowledge Management (Share point
Portal Server)

 Disaster Recovery and Business Continuity Planning (Veritas,
Storage, Snapshots)

Enterprise Networking (VPN, Frame, Router, WAN, Terminal Server, Citrix)

Corporate Compliance support(HIPAA, Sarbanes-Oxley, Gramm Leach Bliley Act)

 SMB Solutions:

 MS
Office 97 through 2003, Front Page,etc

Exchange 5.5 through 2003, IIS 4.0 through 6.0, SQL 7.0 through SQL 2000
 Veritas
Backup, Ghost, Ultra-Bac, Retrospect, Adobe, Omnipro,
 Legal
Solution, Baji, Compu-Law Vision, etc

 Technical Skills:

 Programming (ASP, SQL
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 Over 14 years of software development and IT infrastructure experience.

Experience with entire product development life cycle;

 Experience with Infrastructure
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 Hands-on management of implementation teams; 
 Hands-on
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 Experienced integration strategies;

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 Experience configuring Firewalls (Net screen, D-Link, Cisco Pix);

 Exchange 5.5 through 2003 Server Setup and Administration;

 NT/ 2000/ 2003 Server
Setup and Administration;

 Install and configured DSU, CSU for ISDN and T-1 Frame Circuits,
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 Sales and Marketing Skills:

 Experience with product/services strategy development, and
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 Ability
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Outstanding speaking/presentation skills and good writing skills;

 Expertise closing tough customers;

 Experience in developing Lead Generation vehicles;

 Knowledge of Solution Selling (Michael T. Bosworth)

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Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions

2003-12-14 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:51:17PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote:
 | Is fdisk supposed to work on all platforms supported by debian installer ??
 hmm. no. You can use parted to do this. Imho it's supported on all
 architectures.

No, it is not. It lacks at least support for IBM Disklabels.

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Bug#223975: DEBOOTSTRAP uscito in maniera anomala

2003-12-14 Thread zoilo
Package: boot-floppies
version: Debian GNU Linux 3.0 r 1 Woody
flavor: no
architecture: 1386
motherboard: Lucky Star LS P54CE 430FX Rev D1 - Intel
133 Mhz
bios: 2a59cl1b (flashed!)
memory: 128 Mb RAM
hard-disk: Maxtor 4 Giga
scsi: no
cd-rom: Plextor 40x12x40
network card: no
pcmcia: no
 
error messages: user.info dbootstrap [61]: making
symlink from /dev/hdc to /dev/cdrom
user.info dbootstrap [61]: running
/usr/sbin/dboottstrap __ bootfloppies __ arch i386
woody /target file:/instmnt
user.err dbootstrap [61]: dbootstrap A uscito in
maniera anormale
user.info dbootstrap [61]: unmonting partition mounted
at /instmnt.

problem: Premetto che sono approdato a Linux non
riuscendo ad installare Windows 98SE dopo vari
tentativi sul 
suddetto pc.
Dopo l'inizializzazione della partizione root/,
durante l'installazione del sistema di base,
DEBOOTSTRAP é uscito in maniera anomala (return value
139 o anche -1). Ho provato sia con il boot dai
floppies 
sia con quello da cd-rom, sia con 2 lettori cd-rom
diversi, sia copiando il cd-rom sul dico fisso slave e
provando l'installazione da li, sia con due hard disk
master diversi, e addirittura riflashando il vecchio 
bios originale della scheda madre.
 
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2003-12-14 Thread Debian Installer
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  * Use one script for a lot of old scripts which share any logic.
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Re: Proposal for languagechooser and language list

2003-12-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 10:48:57AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
 First of all, sorry for just putting ideas in this mail and not
 propose any implementation. I'm afraid my skills are too low for
 proposing anything but really bad code. Not speaking of time
 lacking..:-)

 The current language list (which is the very first prompt a user
 sees when installing Debian) is not really satisfactory (imho, of
 course).

 The list is alphabetically sorted with all choices being translation
 of the english sentence Choose this to proceed in xx

 Thus, hungarian comes first (because of its leading A), then french
 variants (because I translated as Choisissez which comes before
 Choose) and so on...

 There were a few proposals recently for changing this to simpler
 choices, for instance only language names.

 The variants also induce some confusion by macking the list a bit too
 long.

 Here are my proposal :

 -change this to a 2 stage process : first choose the language
 (e.g. Français). Then choose the country variant (is Français is
 chosen, the user chooses between Belgique, Canada, France, Luxembourg,
 Suisse)

I don't think a two-stage selection is all that necessary.  That seems
like added complexity for little benefit; the list is only made a little
longer by including all locales in a single list, and the fewer
questions the better.

 -simplfy the sentence : just keep the language names (translated, just
 like they currently are)

Of course, the counterargument is that we can't expect the debconf
question itself to be usefully localized; so the user may understand
their language name, but without the complete sentence there may be
greater confusion as to the application of the language.  Does it apply
to the installer only?  To the default system locale once installed?  To
the keyboard?  Then again, I'm not sure the answers to these questions
are all that obvious even /with/ the current sentence. :)

 -find a rule for sorting languages :
  -English (which is the default) should come first

As long as this refers to the C locale (which would also be first if
sorted alphabetically by locale name -- using the C locale's sort rules,
that is :), that seems ok.  If it's en_US or en_UK people are after,
those ought to be sorted like everything else.  In which case, I think
the label for the C locale ought to be international English, for
clarity.

  -Sort other languages. Below are some proposals:
 -alphabetically (not easy : where should double-byte languages go?)
 -by translation status in Debian:
  -first sorting key--translation status for d-i
-second sorting key--combination of translation status for
 debconf templates and programs translations (by using 
   http://www.debian.org/intl/l10n/ pages when they will be
 updated again
 -by numbers of people speaking these languages in the world. Many
  references may be found on this topic. For instance, by googling
  a bit, I found http://www.photius.com/rankings/languages2.html:
  -Chinese, Mandarin
-Spanish
-English
-Arabic
-Bengali
-Hindi
-Portuguese
-Russian
-Japanese
-German
-Chinese, Wu
-Javanese
-Korean
-French
-Turkish
-Vietnamese
.../... we have 50 languages listed
This reference is an ethnological reference which lists the
  number of people *really* speaking the given language. This
is not a sum of the populations of countries for which
the given language is among the official languages of the
country (I found that statistic also, but only for the Top10
   languages : http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0775272.html#A0774735)

 Does somebody have comments on this?

I believe that the most useful sort order for a user *trying to find his
language in the list* is alphabetically by locale code, with locale
codes listed explicitly in front of the translation.  Most ISO locale
codes are derived from the language's own name for itself, so assuming
at least basic familiarity with Latin sort order, this would seem to be
the biggest UI win for the most users.

CJK is an exception; not only are speakers of CJK languages least likely
to be familiar with Latin sort order, their language codes are less
likely to correspond to the native name for the language. ('ja' for
Japanese comes from the Western name for the language, as does 'ko' for
Korean, IIRC; and I'm not sure of the derivation of 'zh' for Chinese.)
If someone can think of a sort algorithm that would better serve CJK
users without compromising the utility to the users of the much more
numerous (and harder to identify at a glance) Latin locales, I'd be
interested to hear it.

Sorting by translation status in Debian is only useful to the user if he
*knows* that's the reason for the sort order.  Otherwise, he's just
going to get frustrated trying to find his 

Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions

2003-12-14 Thread Daniele Nicolodi
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:19:00PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:51:17PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote:
  | Is fdisk supposed to work on all platforms supported by debian installer ??
  hmm. no. You can use parted to do this. Imho it's supported on all
  architectures.

What about list all available partitions (listed in /proc/partitions) ?
I hope that a person who install lvm know what he's doing. We must also
list all unpartioned disks because a lvm vg could be created also on a
unpartitioned disk.

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Re: New discover package

2003-12-14 Thread David Nusinow
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 02:24:43PM +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
 Hi David
 
 Thank you for your work. I will have a look at it today. I would suggest
 to add both of us as uploaders and to add [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That'd be perfect for me. I'll put up a new version using the Install
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two of us as uploaders unless someone on the list has any objections.

 
 I tink it would be best to ask fr a sponsor on debian-boot. I hope
 Petter or Joey Hess could do the upload.

I actually asked Branden Robinson, and he agreed to do it. Since he
knows the package very well, I thought he'd be perfect for it.

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Re: German translation for d-i

2003-12-14 Thread Jan Lübbe
Hi,

Am So, den 14.12.2003 schrieb Christian Perrier um 16:23:
  * Jan Lübbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 11:45]:
   I read in another mail on this list that Anonymous CVS is disabled.
   How would i access the current sources?
  
  You can access http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer
  Not ideal, I know, but at least it works.  And you'll only need a few
  .po files anyway.
 
 
   http://people.debian.org/~barbier/d-i/l10n/
 
 is easier to work with for translators. When you have completed a
 translation, then file a bug against the package so that the
 translation may be commited (when the CVS server will be up and
 running, I guess)

So i downloaded these files and i could start translating them with
i.e. gtranslator (which looks quite easy to use).
Against which package should i file the bug? debian-installer?
Should i attach a diff or just the whole .po file?

 I'm really surprised to see german translations only at 23%. Looks
 like it's time to involve more german translation team people in the
 debian-installer translation process.

Thorsten Sauter: You are mentioned as the translator of some de files.
Do you want me to update these files?

 I seem to remember that most german translators wirk with Grisu's DDTP
 for po-debconf translations. No idea whether it's really appropriate
 for d-i stuff (the french team does no use DDTP at all for
 (po-)debconf stuff).

Here is a discussion about using DDTP for d-i:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200311/msg00839.html

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lithuanian po-debconf translation

2003-12-14 Thread Kstutis Bilinas
Hi,

In attachement there are initial lithuanian po-debconf translation
for autopartkit, cdrom-checker and iso-scan.

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Re: netcfg debconf templates - please review

2003-12-14 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 15:05, Matt Kraai wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 08:18:45AM +, Oliver Elphick wrote:
  @@ -101,7 +101,7 @@

   Template: netcfg/internal-plip
   Type: text
  -_Description: Parallel-line IP
  +_Description: Parallel-port IP
 
 The acronym is PLIP, so I think we should stick with the original.

Oh I see.  I suppose so, then, but I had never heard the phrase
parallel line used beofre.

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Re: status of pppoe support in d-i ?

2003-12-14 Thread Joey Hess
Marco d'Itri wrote:
 No. I tried talking with joeyh on IRC multiple times, but I still have
 not been able to get hold of him. My request is to include ppp-udeb in
 the netinst initrd image.

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Status of Debian installer

2003-12-14 Thread Damon L. Chesser
What is the status of the installer?  Links to the debain server are 
down, as of today, I can't log into the anonymous cvs.  The image dated 
22 Nov does not write a LILO to boot to on my system.

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Re: German translation for d-i

2003-12-14 Thread Denis Barbier
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 09:13:26PM +0100, Jan Lübbe wrote:
[...]
 So i downloaded these files and i could start translating them with
 i.e. gtranslator (which looks quite easy to use).
 Against which package should i file the bug? debian-installer?

Under the de/ subdirectory you can find:
  * base-config_de.po for the base-config package, this file is
base-config/debian/po/de.po
  * de.po which is a concatenation of all debian-installer_*_de.po
files; this file is only useful to track down inconsistencies
betwwen files, and must not be translated directly.
  * debian-installer_*_de.po are de.po files for all debian-installer
components.  Their name is obtained by replacing / by _ in file
full path (but the debian/po part is removed), e.g.
debian-installer_tools_lilo-installer_de.po is similar to
debian-installer/tools/lilo-installer/debian/po/de.po and package
name is lilo-installer, so you should file a bug against this
package.  Please flag your bugreports with the d-i tag.

 Should i attach a diff or just the whole .po file?

The whole file.

Denis


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Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions

2003-12-14 Thread Thorsten Sauter
* Bastian Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 18:19]:
| On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:51:17PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote:
|  | Is fdisk supposed to work on all platforms supported by debian installer ??
|  hmm. no. You can use parted to do this. Imho it's supported on all
|  architectures.
| 
| No, it is not. It lacks at least support for IBM Disklabels.

yes. that's true.
But this is a bug in parted and must be included into libparted. But
fdisk will never support _all_ archs.

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Re: lvmcfg and find-partitions

2003-12-14 Thread Thorsten Sauter
* Daniele Nicolodi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-12-14 20:39]:
| On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:19:00PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
|  On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:51:17PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote:
|   | Is fdisk supposed to work on all platforms supported by debian installer ??
|   hmm. no. You can use parted to do this. Imho it's supported on all
|   architectures.
| 
| What about list all available partitions (listed in /proc/partitions) ?
| I hope that a person who install lvm know what he's doing. We must also
| list all unpartioned disks because a lvm vg could be created also on a
| unpartitioned disk.

sounds like the easiest way. But LVM needs a 8e partition type. If you
display all partitions then you must catch this error during the
pvcreate phase. So you maybe move the problem to an other postition.

Isn't it?
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Re: Installation report on CDROM-less machine

2003-12-14 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 02:42:40AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote:
 On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 06:18:15PM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
 
 | OK, so I got a copy of debian-installer CVS and tried to create the
 | netboot initrd. After installing some needed packages I was struck by
 | libdiscover1 being installed (1.5-1.4.2) but not installable :-) Is it
 | libdiscover1-udeb that is needed?
 
 Nope, you need to patch build/get-packages as described by Geert Stappers:
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00507.html

OK. Thanks.

 | In section 2.4 Booting from Network it says: 
 | 
 | It's also possible to boot debian-installer completely from the net. The 
 | various methods to netboot depend on your architecture and netboot setup. 
 | They are not explaind here.
 | 
 | I assume that info will be included in the final docs.
 
 One would hope so :-)
 
 | A few old NICs (e.g. DEC Etherworks III)
 | are supported by netboot (here netboot refers to the netboot
 | package, e.g. netboot_0.8.1-9_i386.deb) but not etherboot, but I don't
 | see the need for netboot support.
 
 According to man mknbi, the same image will work with both netboot and
 etherboot.

Good then.

 | The last part of section 2.4 Booting from Network says:
 | 
 | 'The netboot-initrd.gz is needed to netboot debian-installer. It contains 
 | only essential d-i modules to get the network up and running, everything 
 | else (d-i components and base packages) will be retrieved from network.
 | If you don't have a netboot setup, you can also make a bootable CD with 
 | this image and have a minimal netinst CD.'
 | 
 | Now, for pxe clients, netboot-initrd.gz works out of the box,
 
 This sounds wrong to me.  I've never used PXE, but I was under the
 impression that PXE needs its own bootloader, distinct from mknbi, to
 tag the image.  man mknbi mentions PXELINUX in that context...

As I understand it, PXELINUX is executed BY THE CLIENT, as the first
(or second, depending on how you see it) stage in the pxe boot
process. I might be totally off here, since I have never used pxe, but
that is how I make sense of the procedure described here:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/2003/debian-testing-200311/msg00098.html

etherboot and pxe seem to differ at the moment where tagging is done.
For etherboot, it is done on the server by mknbi-linux prior to
booting, for pxe it is done at boot-time by pxelinux running at the
client using a config file which is hosted by the server.

 The info about kernel options needed will be given as command line
arguments to mknbi, or in the case of pxe, be written to a config
file.

People willing to try to netboot (x86 clients) into debian-installer,
would likely be familiar with either pxe or etherboot and the information in 

http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2003/debian-boot-200312/msg00507.html
and yours earlier in this thread is probably sufficient.

So, the convenience of a pretagged file with kernel+netboot-initrd.gz
for etherboot is probably not worth the space it would use up.

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my experiences withthe new Debian installer

2003-12-14 Thread Eric S. Johansson
it's a significant improvement of the previous version however 
installation process is still very expert friendly.

I highly recommend taking a look at the xandros install process.  Half a 
dozen steps and you have a usable system.

Issues:

If you do not have an ethernet cable plug-in during DHCP address 
acquisition, retrying with a cable plugged in does not acquire an address.
Disk formatting process is still quite expert friendly.  The two-step 
process of allocating storage and choosing a file system followed by 
choosing a file system is disconcerting the first time one encounters 
it.  One should just allocate storage then choose a file system is a 
second step or, preferably do everything in one screen namely allocate 
storage, choose file system type, choose mount point.

On the screen configure and mount partitions, it does not show the 
partitions I created in the previous step.  It shows the NTFS partition, 
selling determined partition rather than the Linux and Linux swap 
partitions I had created.

the subsequent interface flow selecting file system and mount point is 
quite nice.  any way of making the allocation process part of this flow?

enabling shadow passwords question is expert friendly but if there's 
ever a streamlined path, just assume a yes.

the X11 install is still as (un)friendly as ever.  I have been spoiled 
by the likes of Xandros and Windows because they just figure out what 
video card is present without requiring someone to pull the top of the 
system, and intuit video card profile from either the remnants of 
silkscreening or an FCC ID number.  Remember, I'm using a Frankenstein 
box here.  My selection process for video card was minimum dust and a 15 
pin connector on the back that fits a video cable.  I don't believe my 
junk box has a video card that was manufactured before 1997.  And yes, 
Windows 2000 and Xandros both properly identified the card but, bright 
person that I am, I forgot to it write down.

so now I have my boot prompt, X doesn't run because I didn't even try to 
get the settings right.

My overall impression is that the new installer is an improvement over 
the previous one.  And for that, people are to be thanked.  On the 
downside, there are still way too many decisions to be made.  The vast 
majority of them are minutia that makes a difference to a very small 
segment of the population and drives everyone else crazy.  Personally, I 
would be happy with a 15 (give or take) step install which asks the 
basic questions of network configuration(DHCP/static), partitioning disk 
(how many, how much for each one, format, and mount point), which 
packages would I like to start with, root password and go-don't bother 
me until you are done.

for me, an install should be 15 minutes of questions and answers and 
then I should hear nothing from the process or need to pay any attention 
to it it is done.

Again, I think you have made a significant improvement.  I know how 
difficult it is to sometimes make the amount of change necessary 
happened on volunteer efforts.  You have done good and please don't let 
my criticisms detract from that.

I'm looking forward to trying out the next beta.

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Package: elilo-installer
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Tags: patch d-i

See other debconf templates polishing BRs for boot loader installers.

Apart from the usual changes, I added the following one :

- There were no suitable partitions found for elilo to use.  elilo needs
+ There were no suitable partitions found for elilo to use.  Elilo needs
 ^

Not sure for English, but in French all sentences should start by a capital
letter. So I guess it's the same in English.


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--- elilo-installer.templates.ori   2003-11-01 09:08:36.0 +0100
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@@ -1,12 +1,12 @@
 Template: elilo-installer/bootpart
 Type: select
 Choices: ${BOOTPARTS}
-_Description: Please select the partition on which you want elilo installed.
+_Description: Partition for boot loader installation:
  Partitions currently available in your system are listed.
  Please choose the one you want elilo to use to boot Debian.
 
 Template: elilo-installer/no-bootpart
-Type: note
+Type: error
 _Description: No boot partitions detected
- There were no suitable partitions found for elilo to use.  elilo needs
+ There were no suitable partitions found for elilo to use.  Elilo needs
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Trying to boot after Debian installer ran

2003-12-14 Thread Damon L. Chesser
I have run the debian installer, installed a base system, chose the 
default LILO install choice.  The installer did NOT wright (I watched 
the drive light to verify this, it SHOULD have written) to the disk, 
system re-booted.  I have mounted the Debian partitions to examine 
them.  Debian root = hdb6 with /boot as a sub dir.  Here is the contents 
of Debian /boot:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/Debianboot/boot$ ls -l
total 4568
-rw-r--r--1 root root   518609 Oct  3 23:59 
System.map-2.4.22-1-386
-rw-r--r--1 root root  512 Dec 14 09:46 boot.0340
-rw-r--r--1 root root42261 Sep 27 03:17 config-2.4.22-1-386
-rw-r--r--1 root root  3264512 Dec 14 09:45 
initrd.img-2.4.22-1-386
-rw---1 root root53760 Dec 14 09:46 map
-rw-r--r--1 root root   769886 Oct  3 23:59 vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386

Here is my grub menu.lst:

titleLibranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.23 NEW
root(hd0,5)
kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.23 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi  
vga=792
savedefault
boot

titleLibranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.23 (single user mode)
root(hd0,5)
kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.23 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi 
single
savedefault
boot

titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.22-1-386
root(hd1,5)
kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 root=/dev/hdb6 ro hdc=scsi 
hdd=scsi 
savedefault
boot

The above Debain GNU/Linux entry will boot, but stops with an error 
message cant find image, please amend root= entry to the correct root 
image  or words to that effect.   Here is the question:

Given the above, how can I get Debian to boot?  cd into the Debain / 
(while running Libranet) and run lilo?  Modify in some unknown to me way 
the above grub entry?

I have removed the hdc=scsi entries.  I have changed values for (hd1,5) 
and /dev/hdb6 on the chance that my understanding was flawed.  I have 
found a different source for the iso image and downloaded/burned/loaded 
it. 

The Installer worked very well, except it seems to fail in allowing me 
access to my new shiny base system!!!  Talk about security!  The distro 
was sarge, ext3 was chosen for file systems, hdb6 /, hdb7 /home, hdb5 
/var (as reiserfs).  All partitions seem written to with out errors (as 
checked out from Libranet).

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Re: Trying to boot after Debian installer ran

2003-12-14 Thread panda
Damon L. Chesser wrote:
I have run the debian installer, installed a base system, chose the 
default LILO install choice.  The installer did NOT wright (I watched 
the drive light to verify this, it SHOULD have written) to the disk, 
system re-booted.  I have mounted the Debian partitions to examine 
them.  Debian root = hdb6 with /boot as a sub dir.  Here is the contents 
of Debian /boot:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/Debianboot/boot$ ls -l
total 4568
-rw-r--r--1 root root   518609 Oct  3 23:59 
System.map-2.4.22-1-386
-rw-r--r--1 root root  512 Dec 14 09:46 boot.0340
-rw-r--r--1 root root42261 Sep 27 03:17 config-2.4.22-1-386
-rw-r--r--1 root root  3264512 Dec 14 09:45 
initrd.img-2.4.22-1-386
-rw---1 root root53760 Dec 14 09:46 map
-rw-r--r--1 root root   769886 Oct  3 23:59 
vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386

Here is my grub menu.lst:

titleLibranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.23 NEW
root(hd0,5)
kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.23 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi  
vga=792
savedefault
boot

titleLibranet GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.23 (single user mode)
root(hd0,5)
kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.23 root=/dev/hda6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi 
single
savedefault
boot

titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.22-1-386
root(hd1,5)
kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 root=/dev/hdb6 ro hdc=scsi 
hdd=scsi savedefault
boot

The above Debain GNU/Linux entry will boot, but stops with an error 
message cant find image, please amend root= entry to the correct root 
image  or words to that effect.   Here is the question:

Given the above, how can I get Debian to boot?  cd into the Debain / 
(while running Libranet) and run lilo?  Modify in some unknown to me way 
the above grub entry?

I have removed the hdc=scsi entries.  I have changed values for (hd1,5) 
and /dev/hdb6 on the chance that my understanding was flawed.  I have 
found a different source for the iso image and downloaded/burned/loaded it.
The Installer worked very well, except it seems to fail in allowing me 
access to my new shiny base system!!!  Talk about security!  The distro 
was sarge, ext3 was chosen for file systems, hdb6 /, hdb7 /home, hdb5 
/var (as reiserfs).  All partitions seem written to with out errors (as 
checked out from Libranet).

Hi,

I don't know much about this. I used to have some similar problems which 
were solved by using the idebus option while booting

I used idebus=66

U might need to check the boot options for ur specific coniguration.

panda

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Re: Trying to boot after Debian installer ran

2003-12-14 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Sun, 2003-12-14 at 16:16, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
Snip

This got it going: (grub menu.lst of Libranet)

title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.22-1-386
root(hd1,5)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.22-1-386 root=/dev/hdb6 ro hdc=scsi hdd=scsi  
initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.4.22-1-386 **this line WAS missning and
adding it makes it work
savedefault
boot


 

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