Bug#505111: will suggest removal from testing

2010-08-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 07 August 2010, Neil McGovern wrote:
 As there isn't a resolution in sight, I'll add a hint at the end of
 August for the removal of the package unless there's significant
 progress to fixing the issue.

I still feel this is an overreaction as only the original reporter has ever 
seen the issue in practice. No one else has ever reported being affected 
by the issue. The described use case requires an combination of factors 
which is quite unlikely to occur in practice.

I'm also CCing Colin Watson as he is the original author of rescue mode and 
its primairy maintainer. Maybe he'll be motivated to look into this or 
comment.



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Bug#590667: debmirror: fails to move installer MD5SUMS file in place on mirror

2010-08-05 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 28 July 2010, Stefan Kisdaroczi wrote:
 the file dists/squeeze/main/installer-i386/current/images/MD5SUMS
 didn't get updated on my mirror. The attached patch fixed it for me.

Thanks for reporting the issue. The patch looks correct.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#590993: installation-reports: netboot install report broken mirror if installation CD is used as mirror

2010-07-31 Thread Frans Pop
tags 590993 patch
thanks

 It would be better if debian-cd was modified to only include the symlink
 for the suite actually specified in the Release file.

The attached patch (tested) implements this.

diff --git a/tools/start_new_disc b/tools/start_new_disc
index cf00344..779f242 100755
--- a/tools/start_new_disc
+++ b/tools/start_new_disc
@@ -66,9 +66,6 @@ fi
 
 if [ ! -d $CDDIR/dists/$CODENAME ] ; then
 mkdir -p $CDDIR/dists/$CODENAME
-for name in stable unstable frozen testing; do
-	ln -sf $CODENAME $CDDIR/dists/$name
-done
 fi
 
 # Commodity link for tools which want local in dists/local/local ...
@@ -336,6 +333,12 @@ if [ -e $MIRROR/dists/$CODENAME/Release ] ; then
 	sed -i -e s/^Suite: .*$/Suite: stable/ dists/$CODENAME/Release
 	sed -i -e s/^Description: .*$/Description: Debian $DEBVERSION Released $RDATE/ dists/$CODENAME/Release
 	fi
+
+	# Create the suite symlink
+	SUITE=$(sed -n /^Suite:/ s/.*: //p dists/$CODENAME/Release)
+	if [ -n $SUITE ]  [ x$SUITE != x$CODENAME ]; then
+		ln -sf $CODENAME dists/$SUITE
+	fi
 else
 	echo ERROR: Release file ($MIRROR/dists/$CODENAME/Release) is missing !
 	exit 1


Bug#590993: installation-reports: netboot install report broken mirror if installation CD is used as mirror

2010-07-30 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 590993 debian-cd
severity 590993 normal
thanks

Since you are trying something that's not really supported, this is 
certainly *not* a grave issue. After all, a CD image is not a mirror 
even if both contain a repository.

It is correct that the error occurs because CD images have symlinks for all 
suites to the release (codename) included on the CD. This is mostly for 
historic reasons and no longer has any purpose (since current versions of 
the installer select by codename instead of suite).

In a bit more detail. The latest versions of choose-mirror (including the 
current Etch and Lenny versions) perform validity checks on the Release 
files and will reject a mirror as broken if the Release file under a 
suite symlink lists a different suite inside the Release file.

It would be better if debian-cd was modified to only include the symlink 
for the suite actually specified in the Release file. Reassigning 
accordingly.

 Looks like my whole attempt to use the ISO image as netboot installation
 source is futile, as the files are not signed on the CD,
 so netinst gives up in the next step.

This can be worked around by telling the installer to ignore the 
signatures. See the installation guide for details.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#589579: debian-installer: i386 kernel flavour selection is poor

2010-07-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 18 July 2010, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 3. The 686 flavour is considered unsuitable for some AMD K7 processors

 Problem 3 appears to be due to a workaround for an incorrect kernel
 configuration.  The comment on this exclusion is 'May not have SSE
 support', but this has never been a requirement for the 686 flavour.
 (The Pentium Pro and Pentium II don't have SSE either.)

This has been discussed, changed, and revisited several times. There have 
been long threads about it and IIRC also various bug reports from users.

Can you really *guarantee* that 686 will work with *all* K7 processors?
I've not checked the archives, but I'm not sure whether SSE support really 
was the reason for the current code, or whether there were also other 
factors.



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Bug#589579: debian-installer: i386 kernel flavour selection is poor

2010-07-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 18 July 2010, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 +   if grep -q '^flags.*\blm\b' $CPUINFO; then

Has this been tested with busybox shell?
Does busybox' grep understand '\b'? I don't recall us using it anywhere 
else in D-I.



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Bug#589579: debian-installer: i386 kernel flavour selection is poor

2010-07-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 18 July 2010, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 On Sun, 2010-07-18 at 23:11 +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
  On Sunday 18 July 2010, Ben Hutchings wrote:
   +   if grep -q '^flags.*\blm\b' $CPUINFO; then
 
  Has this been tested with busybox shell?
  Does busybox' grep understand '\b'? I don't recall us using it
  anywhere else in D-I.

 This works with 'busybox grep' from the busybox package, so unless it is
 an optional feature it should work in d-i.

OK. Thanks for verifying.



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 17 July 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 I eagerly await Bills view on the proposed change for
 popularity-contest, which I believe i a better place to implement the
 change.

No, it is not reasonable to ask packages to change functionally correct and 
policy-compliant dependencies only because of D-I [1].
popcon falls back to mail if the HTTP method fails, which does happen 
occasionally. Therefore a Recommends of an MTA is reasonable.

Why do you feel the need to second-guess me on this?
I spent several days analyzing the whole issue of Recommends and making 
various changes to deal with minor issues that arose from it. All changes 
where posted for review and discussed on the d-boot list. popcon is not 
the only package that needed an exception, so the --no-recommends option 
is needed anyway. Using it for popcon is a perfectly acceptable solution.

So: as the reported issue is already fixed in current daily built D-I 
images and as the Recommends in popcon is functionally correct, there is 
absolutely zero need to make any changes in popcon.

[1] The issue in D-I is mainly one of ordering: we install popcon before 
running tasksel and installing prio standard packages. The fact that we 
uninstall popcon if a user chooses not to participate is another weirdness 
in D-I which should not be reason to make any changes in the package.



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
(Daniel: sorry for the private duplicate of this mail; no need to CC me.)

On Saturday 17 July 2010, Daniel Richard G. wrote:
 On Sat, 2010 Jul 17 13:35+0200, Frans Pop wrote:
  So: as the reported issue is already fixed in current daily built D-I
  images and as the Recommends in popcon is functionally correct, there
  is absolutely zero need to make any changes in popcon.

 Okay, now I'm a little confused.

 So I see in the pkgsel ChangeLog that you addressed this back in late
 February. And I see that the current d-i downloads (netboot in
 particular) are dated early July, the same for both sid and squeeze. So
 why did this problem come up at all? Petter mentioned that version 0.26
 of pkgsel was being used, but why would an early-July build of d-i use a
 version of pkgsel from last December?

I'm not sure what image was used by the bug reporter, but I assume a 
current D-I alpha 1 image. The alpha1 images date from mid February.

Until today, the version of pkgsel in testing was 0.26, which does not have 
my latest changes. This also means that current squeeze_d-i images still 
have the old version.

As you can see from [1] my final work on Recommends handling in D-I was 
done _after_ the alpha1 release.

I verified earlier today that with a daily built D-I image exim4 does not 
get pulled in when popcon is installed during pkgsel.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2010/02/msg00148.html



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 18 July 2010, Daniel Richard G. wrote:
 On Sat, 2010 Jul 17 21:40+0200, Frans Pop wrote:
  I'm not sure what image was used by the bug reporter, but I assume a
  current D-I alpha 1 image. The alpha1 images date from mid Februari.

 These received a refresh a few days ago:
 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/curr
ent/images/netboot/

No, that's no update. Only a date change for some reason. The images are 
still identical to the alpha1 release from February. One way to see that 
is to check the kernel version: it uses 2.6.30 instead of 2.6.32. Another 
is to check the /etc/lsb-release file or the versions of udebs listed 
in /var/lib/dpkg/status.

 But this same error would have occurred if I had used d-i from sid. When
 you say release, do you mean, from daily builds to unstable, rather
 than unstable to testing?

The error would *not* have occurred if you had used images based on D-I 
from sid.

If you look at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/, you will see 
three sets of links:
- squeeze Alpha1 release (these are the ones you used)
- current weekly snapshot
- daily built images

The first is the old release I was talking about and will soon be replaced 
with the new release.
The second currently also still has the old version of pkgsel as weekly CD 
snapshots take udebs from testing and the current build is from last 
Monday (before the migrations of new versions done earlier today). The 
next build will use the new version (but is likely to be unusable because 
of the preparation for the new release which means that temporarily things 
from the old and new release will be mixed up and that is almost certain 
to cause breakage).
The third set are the images that have the lastest version of all installer 
components from unstable.

The page linked above is the only authoritative source for the various 
images available to install testing.



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 18 July 2010, Daniel Richard G. wrote:
 So if I had used the one from
 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/current/
images/netboot/

 it would have worked?

No. Those are *not* daily built images. Follow the relevant links from the 
page I referred to! For netboot you need other images.

 But it's identical to the one for squeeze...

Correct. Both are the last D-I release, not daily builds.



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Bug#588608: aptitude (priority important) depends on libboost-iostreams (priority optional)

2010-07-16 Thread Frans Pop
Steve Langasek wrote:
 This manual represents the opinion of a single developer.

And what does that have to do with the price of bananas in Iceland?

The fact that aptitude is currently the recommended tool for package 
management has various reasons: user interface, features, dependency 
handling, etc. That status has evolved over the last 3 or so release 
cycles. You have even been part of some of the discussions (for example 
sarge - etch upgrade issues)

aptitude is the primary tool used by Debian Installer (and because of that 
its current priority of important is actally necessary). It is also 
recommended in both the Release Notes (for stable release upgrades) and 
the Installation Guide.

So what's listed in the Debian Reference is a correct reflection of 
aptitude's current status and not, as you imply, the result of some single 
developer being on crack.

The growing dependency chain of aptitude *is* of some concern and may be 
reason to re-evaluate its role, but in no way does that change its 
_current_ status.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#579954: installation-guide: Add link from accessibility section to boot screen section

2010-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
tag 579954 pending
thanks

On Sunday 02 May 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 It has been reported that it would be useful to add a link from the
 accessibility to the boot screen section, as the attached patch does,
 since the latter describes precisely how keypresses work there.

I've added the link, but using a simpler change.

Thanks.



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Bug#580508: installation-guide: Fix brltty driver/table code URL

2010-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
tag 580508 pending
thanks

On Thursday 06 May 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 The chapter numbers of the brltty manual have unfortunately changed.
 The attached patch points at its index instead of directly to a chapter
 number.

Updated. I've used a different patch as IMO the text where the URLs are 
used needed updating too and because I don't like having two entities for 
the same URL.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 15 July 2010, Daniel Richard G. wrote:
 From the looks of it, exim4 is installed because of a Recommends: by
 the cron package:

 Recommends: exim4 | postfix | mail-transport-agent, lockfile-progs

How exactly did you determine this? I doubt it is cron as Recommends are 
not installed during base system installation (debootstrap).

The only correct way to check what pulls exim in is to check the syslog for 
the installation. Please send a (gzipped!) copy (you can find it on the 
installed system in /var/log/installer).

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#589213: Do not install Exim in minimal system

2010-07-15 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 15 July 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 I suspect the change you propose can not be implemented by
 debian-installer, but instead would have to be done by changing cron
 or any other package pulling in the mta package.  At least the way d-i
 is designed at the moment.

And on what do you base that statement? To make things simple: it's false. 
There are differences in the way Recommends are handled and options to 
tune whether Recommends are installed in some stages.

Please make some effort to understand how things work before making wild 
guesses.



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Bug#583388: Non-US keyboard problem with graphical installer

2010-07-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 06 July 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 5. Fix for real:
    Edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/keyboard-configuration.config, and add the
    following line in ask_debconf(), right before the if part, once all
    choices have been merged together:
       choices=`echo $choices | sed 's/,$//'`

Nice job tracing this. It's an error that crops up once in a while (in most 
cases because a comma _inside_ one (translated) option in the option list 
is not escaped and causes a count difference).

The proposed fix could well be OK, but maybe the code can be fixed a bit 
earlier so the trailing comma is avoided in the first place? It's in 
general better to create the option list correctly than to clean it up 
afterwards.
'ask_debconf()' sounds like a rather general function that should be fed 
correct input rather than have this overhead.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#583388: Non-US keyboard problem with graphical installer

2010-07-06 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 06 July 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl (06/07/2010):
  The proposed fix could well be OK, but maybe the code can be fixed a
  bit earlier so the trailing comma is avoided in the first place?

 Whatever unbreaks g-i.

Not really. There's also such things as doing things right or wrong, not to 
mention performance.

If you care enough to investigate an issue like this, it takes only very 
little extra time to find the real trouble spot and fix things there 
instead of just papering over the real bug and making the code less 
efficient and maintainable than it already is.



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Bug#586404: udev-udeb: Very slow installation in Squeeze caused by udevadm settle

2010-07-04 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 04 July 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
  Looks so, I never expected that the two packages could get out of
  sync.

 Is there some way to get the udevadm settle command work also with
 older udevd versions?  Can the protocol be changed?

This is a D-I release management problem and should IMO not be fixed any 
other way.



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Bug#571939: [sparc] segfault when quitting aptitude

2010-07-03 Thread Frans Pop
found 571939 0.6.3-2
thanks

I can still reliably reproduce this segfault.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#587493: choose-mirror: Strange wget error message in the installation log

2010-06-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 29 June 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 In Debian Edu, we automatically search for error: in the installation
 log to detect errors during installation.

Then it seems you need to make an exception for this error.

 When PXE installing, I get this one:

   Jun 28 23:18:29 main-menu[555]: (process:2840): wget: server returned
 error: HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found

So, one wget results in a 404. As choose-mirror tries various possible 
suites and codenames and wgets are used for other purposes as well, a 404 
is always a possibility.

 It is a bogus error message that is creating noise and confusion in
 the Debian Edu test installation.

It's not bogus. It's a useful message for troubleshooting and debugging.
The only thing that is a pity is that logging of the error messages to 
stderr gets delayed until the component completes.

 The URLs in the log seem to work, so I do not understand why wget is
 complaining.  Is there some other wget calls that are not reported to
 the log?

Did you check the code?

 The only wget calls I find in choose-mirror do not throw away error
 messages.  Perhaps they should?  If so, this untested patch should
 implement it:

NACK. The errors are too useful to suppress.



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Bug#587493: choose-mirror: Strange wget error message in the installation log

2010-06-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 29 June 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 [Frans Pop]
  So, one wget results in a 404. As choose-mirror tries various
  possible suites and codenames and wgets are used for other purposes
  as well, a 404 is always a possibility.

 Sure, but all the URLs listed in the log are working, so it seem
 strange that one of them give 404.

So either it's due to a temporary mirror issue (which you'd want to know 
about), or it's from an unlogged wget. Or it's from a wget from a 
subprogram called by choose-mirror, in which case you patch won't even 
help.

  It's not bogus. It's a useful message for troubleshooting and
  debugging.  The only thing that is a pity is that logging of the
  error messages to stderr gets delayed until the component completes.

 It is bogus, as all the URLs in the log are working when I test them
 manually, and it is close to impossible to figure out what URL was
 failing.

No, it's not bogus. There *is* a wget that's failing. Whether it affects 
the end result of the install or not is another matter.

wgets in choose-mirror can fail for various valid reasons. Most of them you 
want to know about for troubleshooting purposes.
Examples are: (temporarily) broken mirrors, incomplete mirrors, broken 
proxies. I've seen 403s and 404s that have helped a lot tracing the cause 
of failed installs.

Removing valid information from logs for cosmetic reasons is wrong.

   The URLs in the log seem to work, so I do not understand why wget is
   complaining.  Is there some other wget calls that are not reported
   to the log?
 
  Did you check the code?

 Yes.  Only found the two mentioned in the patch, and neither seem to
 use a non-existing URL. :/

So, you'll need to look a bit deeper. Usually we fix the *cause* of errors. 
We don't suppress errors for cosmetic reasons.

  The only wget calls I find in choose-mirror do not throw away error
  messages.  Perhaps they should?  If so, this untested patch should
  implement it:
 
  NACK. The errors are too useful to suppress.

 I disagree.  The error in question is almost useless.  There is no way
 to see which URL was missing, and the message show up in the wrong
 location in the log.  A useful error message would make it possible to
 figure out what is wrong.  This one do not. :(

But it's currently all we have! And, as mentioned before, it *has* helped 
me a number of times in the past, both while tracing issues from 
installation reports and while debugging.

Improving the error handling is valid. Simply removing the messages without 
replacing them with something else (better) is plain wrong.

 If the error message continue to come from d-i, we need to filter it
 out in debian-edu, but I thought it best to try to get rid of it
 first.

If you can't come up with a proper solution for choose-mirror then that is 
the correct way to go. The primary purpose of the syslog is to help users 
and developers to find the cause of issues. Removing real error messages 
for cosmetic reasons does not improve the installer.



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Bug#587493: choose-mirror: Strange wget error message in the installation log

2010-06-29 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 29 June 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
   NACK. The errors are too useful to suppress.
 
  I disagree.  The error in question is almost useless.  There is no way
  to see which URL was missing, and the message show up in the wrong
  location in the log.  A useful error message would make it possible to
  figure out what is wrong.  This one do not. :(

Note that the order of the errors does match the order of calls. Together 
with other info I've always been able to match things up properly.

I agree (and said so in my initial reply) that the current situation is not 
ideal, but that does not make the errors useless.



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Bug#586428: Please clear the apt cache

2010-06-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 20 June 2010, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 * Otavio Salvador ota...@ossystems.com.br [2010-06-19 12:35]:
   The following patch, which clears the cache after debootstrap and
   then again at the end (after kernel/extra packages), works for me.
    OK to apply?
 
  Conceptually it is OK but why not move it to post-base-installer.d?

 Well, my idea was to clean it twice, once after debootstrap and once
 at the end (after kernel and extra packages).  Doing it in
 post-base-installer.d would not clean the kernel and extra packages.

IMO it should only be done once during base-installer: at the very end (and 
only if successful). Doing it twice does not gain anything.



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Bug#586434: Let's clean the apt cache

2010-06-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 19 June 2010, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 I see no reason for leaving .deb files in /var/cache/apt/archives on a
 fresh installation, so let's run apt-get clean before reboot.

This has been suggested and discussed before. IIRC (but I may be mistaken) 
Joey has always been against it.

The main reason IIRC is that leaving the packages makes it unnecessary to 
download them again if part of e.g. tasksel fails for whatever reason and 
the user has to install some packages manually (after ignoring that 
error - which is a real option as the base system should still be 
functional - and completing the installation).
Think of a (partially) failed desktop install over a relatively slow 
network connection.

IMO that argument is valid, but I also don't think that by itself it's 
enough to decide one way or another.

I have no very strong feelings about this. Cleaning up is a good idea in 
general, but I don't think there is any huge gain in doing it here.
I don't see any real problem with leaving the system admin responsible to 
do this cleanup (which he has to do anyway for any later package 
installs/updates).

Any disk space savings are IMO illusionary as the cache will fill up again 
anyway during later updates and any system that does not have sufficient 
disk space to hold a decent package cache will also have serious problems 
during later stable updates.

I can only see a real gain for installs to embedded systems that are not 
expected to be updated in any regular way. But those should not be 
installed using D-I anyway, or at least already always require some 
customized post-installation.

Note also that this is not an issue for packages that are installed from CD 
as they are not copied to the cache.



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Bug#586434: Let's clean the apt cache

2010-06-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 20 June 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 The main reason IIRC is that leaving the packages makes it unnecessary
 to download them again if part of e.g. tasksel fails for whatever reason
 and the user has to install some packages manually [...].

Note that the above argument is only really valid for packages installed 
*after* base-installer. If base-installer fails we generally consider the 
whole installation broken so only cleaning the cache at the end of that 
(and not also during finish-install) could be something to consider.



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Bug#586434: Let's clean the apt cache

2010-06-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 20 June 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 Any disk space savings are IMO illusionary as the cache will fill up
 again anyway during later updates and any system that does not have
 sufficient disk space to hold a decent package cache will also have
 serious problems during later stable updates.

I mainly mean upgrades from one stable release to the next (e.g. lenny - 
squeeze). Point releases and individual security updates are much smaller 
and thus less of a problem.



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Bug#586434: Let's clean the apt cache

2010-06-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 20 June 2010, Christian PERRIER wrote:
 Maybe, for more corner cases where keepign the cache would be
 good, could we have a low priority option (or a preseed-only choice)
 to *not* clean the cache?

I don't think it has anything to do with user choice or preseeding. Making 
this a debconf option makes absolutely no sense IMO.

The only reason I see to keep the cache is when some packages (after 
base-installer) fail to install. If we want to cover that case it should 
be detected automatically by testing the result of tasksel [1]. The final 
cleanup could be omitted in that case.

[1] Checking installation of packages using apt-install is much harder to 
do as there are many different calls and failure may be expected in some 
cases. It also gains much less as their total size is much less.



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Bug#586428: Please clear the apt cache

2010-06-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 20 June 2010, Rick Thomas wrote:
 If you are *very* short of disk space, doing it twice might make sense.

Nonsense. If you're that short on diskspace you have a totally unusable 
system anyway.



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Bug#586434: Let's clean the apt cache

2010-06-20 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 20 June 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
  [1] Checking installation of packages using apt-install is much
  harder to do as there are many different calls and failure may be
  expected in some cases. It also gains much less as their total size
  is much less.

 I believe it would not be very hard.  We would have to add code to
 apt-install, and to the udeb handling the queue updated by apt-install
 before base-installer is exeucted.  No need to update all those
 calling apt-install for this.

You missed the main point. apt-install can fail without there being an 
error (example: package being apt-installed isn't available; this is quite 
common). So you cannot test the result.



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Bug#586428: Please clear the apt cache

2010-06-19 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 19 June 2010, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
  cleanup () {
 +   rm -f /target/var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb 2/dev/null || true
 rm -f $KERNEL_LIST $KERNEL_LIST.unfiltered
  }

Shouldn't this call 'apt-get cleanup' in /target instead?



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Bug#583733: tasksel: please install kde-config-tablet if a tablet is found

2010-05-30 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 30 May 2010, Sune Vuorela wrote:
   Please install kde-config-tablet if a tablett (wacom-like)_is found
   and the user is installing kde task.
 
  Why not always, so that a wacom tablet that's plugged in later can
  still be configured?

 I guess that could be done. it was just 'why install it if not used'..
 But then I looked in system settings and saw it showed up in the same
 category as 'joystick', which is installed by default and probably even
 more rarely used compared to a tablet.

 So I guess installing it unconditionally is okay.

In that case it should be a Recommends from one of the KDE meta packages 
and not installed by tasksel. Please reassign accordingly.

Note that tasksel *does* now install Recommends by default (if available).



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Bug#583767: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

2010-05-30 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 30 May 2010, Christian PERRIER wrote:
 Quoting Mike Hommey (m...@glandium.org):
  I don't know if all udebs are automatically included in d-i, but if
  they are, I doubt d-i people will like the additional 1.3MB
  uncompressed.

 They aren't automatically included.

But udebs we don't use do need to be specifically excluded from inclusion 
on CD images (to keep the size of bc/netinst down as much as possible and 
to keep maximum space available for real packages on CD/DVD1).

There is a cost. But in this case I don't think the cost is high enough to 
object to the udeb.



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Bug#505609: [SOLVED] Unbootable after kernel upgrade: Lilo can't load kernel

2010-05-30 Thread Frans Pop
reopen 505609 
reassign 505609 linux-2.6
affects 505609 lilo
thanks

Stephen Powell wrote:
 The real question is, Why didn't the map installer get run during
 the kernel upgrade?
[...]
 So is this a bug in the kernel maintainer scripts?  Or is it a feature?
 I don't know.  I'll leave that up to the kernel maintainers to decide.

Reopening and reassigning to the kernel team.



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Bug#582223: partman - Wants to overwrite swap partition/lv

2010-05-19 Thread Frans Pop
severity 582223 normal
tags 582223 wontfix
thanks

On Wednesday 19 May 2010, Bastian Blank wrote:
 partman wants to overwrite the swap partitions on a already setup
 machine. As swap partition can contain hibernation data, this is an
 data-destroying operation.

Doing any system install while the system is in hibernation is asking for 
trouble and IMO is simply user error. I don't think we need to support 
that case.

See also the warning at the top of:
http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/ch05s01.html.en

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#581873: [languagechooser] unable to select language more than once

2010-05-19 Thread Frans Pop
 *Exactly* when did you do this? I suspect it was after the step of
 loading additional components? Before that point changing the language
 should work fine. After that point the language setting *is* changed,
 but you get English because other translations have been deleted to save
 memory.

I've committed a change in rootskel so that translations only get dropped 
if the system has less than 250MB RAM. If we could display the dialog 
saying that changing the language is no longer possible that would 
probably not be needed, but since that does not work I think it's better 
to just keep translations when possible.



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Bug#581873: [languagechooser] unable to select language more than once

2010-05-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 17 May 2010, Holger Wansing wrote:
 The earliest possibility to reach the main menu in standard priority
 is when network configuration via DHCP fails or if I abort it before it
 succeeds.

I would say it is during keyboard selection (if you ignore the 
localechooser dialogs). And you don't have to make DHCP fail; you can also 
go back to the menu when asked to confirm the hostname.



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Bug#581873: [languagechooser] unable to select language more than once

2010-05-16 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 581873 2.09 localechooser
block 581873 by 470258
thanks

On Sunday 16 May 2010, Holger Wansing wrote:
 If I remember now, that I wanted to do an italian installation (for
 example, every other choice does the same), and I go back to the
 change language step as soon as I can access the main menu, it
 doesn't work as expected.

*Exactly* when did you do this? I suspect it was after the step of loading 
additional components? Before that point changing the language should work 
fine. After that point the language setting *is* changed, but you get 
English because other translations have been deleted to save memory.

You can keep all translations for the whole installation by booting with 
DEBCONF_DROP_TRANSLATIONS=0 (IIRC). See changelog for cdebconf (0.117).

 I know, that it's maybe to late at that installation step to change
 the language, but shouldn't it be unpossible, to reach that dialogs
 then?

That functionality is already there, but disabled because of #470258.



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Bug#576576: option to skip installer for specific releases

2010-05-12 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 05 April 2010, Kees Cook wrote:
 In addition to the patches waiting in bug 455082, here
 is a patch to add a --skip-installer option to skip d-i
 files for specific dists (this is very handy for Ubuntu).

Can you give an example of a debmirror command where this is needed?
I tried with security.debian.org [1] which does not have a d-i section
for lenny, but I don't get any errors (even without --dry-run). So it
seems that non-existing sections are already skipped without any problems.

Also note that if none of the dists that are being mirrored have a d-i
section, then the easiest solution is to simply not specify it.

[1] debmirror --dry-run --host=security.debian.org --method=http \
--dist=lenny/updates --root=debian-security \
--section=main,main/debian-installer \
--nosource --verbose --ignore-release tmp

Mirroring to tmp from http://security.debian.org/debian-security/
Arches: i386
Dists: lenny/updates
Sections: main,main/debian-installer
Pdiff mode: use
Will clean up AFTER mirroring.
Attempting to get lock, this might take 2 minutes before it fails.
Get Release files.
[0%] Getting: dists/lenny/updates/Release... ok
[0%] Getting: dists/lenny/updates/Release.gpg... ok
gpgv: Signature made Tue 11 May 2010 09:27:15 PM CEST using RSA key ID 55BE302B
gpgv: Good signature from Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny) 
ftpmas...@debian.org
Get Packages and Sources files and other miscellany.
dists/lenny/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz needs fetch
[  2%] Getting: dists/lenny/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz... ok
dists/lenny/updates/main/binary-i386/Release needs fetch
[100%] Getting: dists/lenny/updates/main/binary-i386/Release... ok
Parse Packages and Sources files and add to the file list everything therein.
[...]



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Bug#580978: installation-reports: fails to see NIC firmware drivers on USB stick

2010-05-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 10 May 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Monday 10 May 2010, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
  I have an ext2 formatted usb stick

 The installation guide specifies that the stick should be *FAT* (or
 VFAT) formatted. ext2 may work with some installation methods, but not
 with all.

 It is also important that the file is in a correct subdirectory.

 See http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch06s04.html for
 details.

Also, check the syslog for the installation. It should contain info on 
how/where the installer is looking for the firmware.



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Bug#581013: [debmirror] debmirror ignore the section 'debian-installer' for the distribution '.*-proposed-updates'

2010-05-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 10 May 2010, Philippe wrote:
 debmirror ignore the section 'debian-installer' for the distributions
 '.*-proposed-updates'.

 It is hardcoded in the debmirror script itself. 

Yes. You should be able to remove the test if you want to.

 Is there any raisons to do that ?

In the past there have been times when proposed-updates suites did not 
contain debian-installer sections and thus would cause mirroring to fail.

I think the solution is to remove the test and simply not fail if the 
section is missing (which could still happen after a release), but just 
print a warning.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#576576: option to skip installer for specific releases

2010-05-10 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 05 April 2010, Kees Cook wrote:
 In addition to the patches waiting in bug 455082, here
 is a patch to add a --skip-installer option to skip d-i
 files for specific dists (this is very handy for Ubuntu).

I don't like this. It's way too complicated for the problem.

To be honest, I think the whole test is redundant and should just be 
removed (see also #581013). Instead of failing when a d-i section is 
missing we should just print a warning and skip it.



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Bug#579995: Partitioning failure in Squeeze install

2010-05-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 03 May 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Monday 03 May 2010, Terry Stroup wrote:
  On completing the partitioning, I get the following error:
 
    File system has an incompatible feature enabled.  Compatible
    features are has_journal, dir_index, filetype, sparse_super
    and large_file.  Use tune2fs or debugfs to remove features.

 This is an error from libparted. I'm not sure what the cause of the
 problem is and your setup is simply too complex with too many variables
 to deduce it from your description.

 If you can reproduce the problem, then please send the syslog and
 partman.log files for the installation (compressed!) after the first
 error occurs.

Without the requested additional info we'll have no option but to close 
your report. Please check if you can reproduce this issue and provide the 
requested log files.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#580799: linux-image-2.6.32-5-sparc64: Should include pata_cmd64x driver instead of cmd64x

2010-05-08 Thread Frans Pop
Package: linux-2.6
Version: 2.6.32-12
Severity: serious

Because of the IDE - ATA transition for Squeeze the pata_cmd64x driver should
be enabled instead of the (old) cmd64x driver. AFAIK the pata_cmd64x has been
tested and is known to work correctly.

My system failed to boot after updrading to 2.6.32-12 because I had updated
my bootloader config and fstab as per the debconf dialogs, but was still
getting the /dev/hdX devices from the old driver.

-- Package-specific info:
** Version:
Linux version 2.6.32-5-sparc64 (Debian 2.6.32-12) (b...@decadent.org.uk) (gcc 
version 4.3.4 (Debian 4.3.4-10) ) #1 Mon May 3 12:15:34 UTC 2010

** Command line:
root=/dev/hda2 ro

** Not tainted

** Kernel log:
[   34.412487] Unpacking initramfs...
[   36.425976] Freeing initrd memory: 8542k freed
[   36.428004] power: Control reg at 1fff1724000
[   36.429219] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
[   36.429481] type=2000 audit(2.160:1): initialized
[   36.430530] HugeTLB registered 4 MB page size, pre-allocated 0 pages
[   36.446641] VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.2
[   36.447294] Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 8192 bytes)
[   36.448042] msgmni has been set to 2016
[   36.450085] alg: No test for stdrng (krng)
[   36.450673] Block layer SCSI generic (bsg) driver version 0.4 loaded (major 
253)
[   36.450782] io scheduler noop registered
[   36.450847] io scheduler anticipatory registered
[   36.450913] io scheduler deadline registered
[   36.451104] io scheduler cfq registered (default)
[   36.451824] atyfb: 3D RAGE II+ (Mach64 GT) [0x4754 rev 0x9a]
[   36.453534] atyfb: 2M SGRAM (1:1), 14.31818 MHz XTAL, 200 MHz PLL, 67 Mhz 
MCLK, 67 MHz XCLK
[   36.516048] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 144x56
[   36.541375] atyfb: fb0: ATY Mach64 frame buffer device on PCI
[   36.542671] /SUNW,f...@1e,0: FFB at 01fc, type 51, DAC 
pnum[236e] rev[10] manuf_rev[1]
[   36.556761] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[   36.557763] /p...@1f,0/p...@1,1/e...@1/s...@14,3083f8: Keyboard port at 
1fff13083f8, irq 6
[   36.558491] /p...@1f,0/p...@1,1/e...@1/s...@14,3062f8: Mouse port at 
1fff13062f8, irq 7
[   36.559586] f0061c64: ttyS0 at MMIO 0x1fff140 (irq = 5) is a SAB82532 
V3.2
[   36.560168] f0061c64: ttyS1 at MMIO 0x1fff1400040 (irq = 5) is a SAB82532 
V3.2
[   36.893614] Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
[   36.910680] FDC 0 is a National Semiconductor PC87306
[   36.912772] Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver
[   36.913344] ide-gd driver 1.18
[   36.914572] mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
[   36.916206] rtc-m48t59 rtc-m48t59.0: rtc core: registered m48t59 as rtc0
[   36.920416] TCP cubic registered
[   36.922175] NET: Registered protocol family 10
[   36.927110] lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
[   36.930640] Mobile IPv6
[   36.930789] NET: Registered protocol family 17
[   36.931687] registered taskstats version 1
[   36.932518] rtc-m48t59 rtc-m48t59.0: setting system clock to 2010-05-08 
17:43:06 UTC (1273340586)
[   36.932895] Initalizing network drop monitor service
[   37.102842] udev: starting version 153
[   37.560607] PCI: Enabling device: (:01:01.1), cmd 2
[   37.560667] sunhme.c:v3.10 August 26, 2008 David S. Miller 
(da...@davemloft.net)
[   37.567765] input: Sun Type 5 keyboard as 
/devices/root/f005f9c0/f00601b4/f0061504/f0063594/serio0/input/input0
[   37.570655] input: Sun Mouse as 
/devices/root/f005f9c0/f00601b4/f0061504/f0064df4/serio1/input/input1
[   37.580218] eth0: HAPPY MEAL (PCI/CheerIO) 10/100BaseT Ethernet 
08:00:20:9c:14:f5
[   37.613386] cmd64x :01:03.0: IDE controller (0x1095:0x0646 rev 0x03)
[   37.627752] cmd64x :01:03.0: 100% native mode on irq 14
[   37.634742] ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1fe02c00020-0x1fe02c00027
[   37.641890] ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1fe02c00028-0x1fe02c0002f
[   37.649158] Probing IDE interface ide0...
[   37.937464] hda: ST34342A, ATA DISK drive
[   38.613346] hda: host max PIO5 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4
[   38.613792] hda: MWDMA2 mode selected
[   38.621602] Probing IDE interface ide1...
[   38.909368] hdc: Maxtor 6E040L0, ATA DISK drive
[   39.417005] hdd: CD-ROM 56X/AKH, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[   39.425289] hdc: host max PIO5 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4
[   39.425427] hdc: MWDMA2 mode selected
[   39.433355] hdd: host max PIO5 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4
[   39.433451] hdd: MWDMA2 mode selected
[   39.441443] ide0 at 0x1fe02c0-0x1fe02c7,0x1fe02ca on irq 14 
(serialized)
[   39.450618] ide1 at 0x1fe02c00010-0x1fe02c00017,0x1fe02c0001a on irq 14 
(serialized)
[   39.459783] hda: max request size: 128KiB
[   39.468269] hda: 8404830 sectors (4303 MB), CHS=8894/15/63
[   39.477020] hda: cache flushes not supported
[   39.486101]  hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4
[   39.521765] hdc: max request size: 128KiB
[   39.541162] hdc: 80293248 sectors (41110 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63
[   39.550586] hdc: cache flushes supported
[   39.561151]  hdc: hdc1 hdc2 hdc3 hdc4
[   

Bug#571939: [sparc] segfault when quitting aptitude

2010-05-08 Thread Frans Pop
found 571939 0.6.2.1-2
thanks

I can still reproduce this with the current version.

Any updates on the issue? The offer to give access to my sparc box is still 
open.

Thanks,
FJP



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Bug#580265: Failed netinst

2010-05-05 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 580265 linux-2.6 2.6.32-9
thanks

On Tuesday 04 May 2010, Gmail Notifier wrote:
 00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82578DC Gigabit
 Network Connection [8086:10f0] (rev 06)
         Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device [8086:0037]
         Kernel driver in use: e1000e

 Comments/Problems:

 Did not find my e1000e network interface, even after selecting it
 explicitly from the list. After installing without using a net
 connection, a simple modprobe e1000e and dhclient made the net
 connection work. The following were added automaticly to /etc/modules
 by the installation:

 e100
 e1000
 e1000e

 But booting with these in /etc/modules did not make the network
 interface work. Had to do modprobe e1000e manually after each boot.

This sounds like a kernel issue. Reassigning to the kernel team.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#579995: Partitioning failure in Squeeze install

2010-05-03 Thread Frans Pop
tag 579995 moreinfo
thanks

On Monday 03 May 2010, Terry Stroup wrote:
 On completing the partitioning, I get the following error:

   File system has an incompatible feature enabled.  Compatible
   features are has_journal, dir_index, filetype, sparse_super
   and large_file.  Use tune2fs or debugfs to remove features.

This is an error from libparted. I'm not sure what the cause of the problem 
is and your setup is simply too complex with too many variables to deduce 
it from your description.

If you can reproduce the problem, then please send the syslog and 
partman.log files for the installation (compressed!) after the first error 
occurs.

 except that Squeeze's DI wouldn't mount the ReiserFS partitions.

ReiserFS is no longer supported by default for Squeeze. See
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch06s03.html#di-partition



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Bug#579948: SunBlade 1000 installation report - fails to mount root partition on /target

2010-05-02 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 579948 partman-base
severity 579948 serious
thanks

On Sunday 02 May 2010, Jurij Smakov wrote:
 Comments/Problems:
 The display of partition sizes appears to be all screwed up (see the
 first attached screenshot).

Possibly a regression in libparted for sparc disklabel. Please send the 
partman.log and also the output of 'fdisk -l' for that disk.

 Attempt to mount /dev/sdb2 as / on /target fails with invalid
 argument (see second attached screenshot). My guess is that it
 happens because mount gets an argument -t ext3, while the partition is
 ext4, and mounts fine from the shell if I do not specify a type
 argument. Perhaps, mke2fs default has changed without installer being
 aware of it?

Not sure about this. Could also be related to the first issue.

How exactly did you partition the disk? The first screenshot shows sdb2 as 
ext3, not as ext4.



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Bug#579948: SunBlade 1000 installation report - fails to mount root partition on /target

2010-05-02 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 579948 libparted0debian1 2.2-5
tags 579948 d-i
affects 579948 partman-base
thanks

On Sunday 02 May 2010, Jurij Smakov wrote:
 On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 03:57:48PM +0100, Jurij Smakov wrote:
 ~ # fdisk -l /dev/sdb

 Disk /dev/sdb (Sun disk label): 255 heads, 63 sectors, 8864 cylinders
 Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

Device FlagStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
 /dev/sdb1 013 972801  Boot
 /dev/sdb2  2048  2049  1024   83  Linux native
 /dev/sdb3 0  8864  712000805  Whole disk
 /dev/sdb4  4096  4097  1024   82  Linux swap
 /dev/sdb5  6144  8864  21848064   83  Linux native

Right. So the free space shown in partman *is* really there (although it
shouldn't be). And sdb2 is completely wrong as it's way too small for a
root fs.

I think this may be the result of new partition alignment code in parted.
The error is certainly in libparted as the log shows the following.

Creation of first partition (100MB for /boot; looks OK):
/bin/perform_recipe: IN: NEW_PARTITION =dev=sdb primary ext2
 0-72908881919 beginning 10001
parted_server: OUT: 1   0-99614719  99614720primary ext2
/dev/sdb1

Creation of second partition (7GB for /):
/bin/perform_recipe: IN: NEW_PARTITION =dev=sdb primary ext3
 99614720-72908881919 beginning 71
parted_server: OUT: 2   16845373440-16846422015 1048576 primary ext3
/dev/sdb2

So partman requests a partition of 7GB, but libparted creates one of
1MB. Looks broken to me.

The swap partition has the same problem: partman requests ~2GB, but we
get only 1MB.

 Here's the fdisk output and illustration of the mounting error:

 ~ # mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb2 /target/
 mount: mounting /dev/sdb2 on /target/ failed: Invalid argument

This is a consequence of the error above. The syslog shows:
May  2 17:12:42 partman: mke2fs 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010)
May  2 17:12:42 partman: Filesystem too small for a journal

So, the FS is too small for a journal and therefore not a valid ext3
filesystem. But apparently ext4 is able to mount it (and you should
also be able to mount it as ext2).



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Bug#579625: partman-base: partman/alignment should also be a regular question

2010-04-29 Thread Frans Pop
Package: partman-base

A new template partman/alignment has been added which is currently only 
preseedable. During a discussion [1] it was suggested that the question 
should also be asked during interactive installs (at medium and/or low 
priority and only for relevant disk labels).

The template is also not yet documented in the installation guide.

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2010/04/msg00184.html



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Bug#566635: sysconfig-hardware: Inconsistent use of variables in hwup-ccw-group?

2010-04-29 Thread Frans Pop
Attached the patch included in 0.0.9+nmu2.

diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian/changelog
index d2d2da0..8fb6ea6 100644
--- a/debian/changelog
+++ b/debian/changelog
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ sysconfig (0.0.9+nmu2) unstable; urgency=low
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * Allow for driver name change in sysfs for CTC network devices in Linux
 kernel 2.6.33. Closes: #566632.
+  * Correct variable use in hwup-ccw-group script. Closes: #566635.
 
  -- Frans Pop f...@debian.org  Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:50:24 +0200
 
diff --git a/etc/sysconfig/scripts/hardware/hwup-ccw-group b/etc/sysconfig/scripts/hardware/hwup-ccw-group
index 2aecf13..491e7d6 100755
--- a/etc/sysconfig/scripts/hardware/hwup-ccw-group
+++ b/etc/sysconfig/scripts/hardware/hwup-ccw-group
@@ -15,7 +15,7 @@ read_config ccw $ID
 
 CCWGROUP_ID=$CCWGROUP_CHANS
 
-if [ $name == cu3088 ]; then
+if [ $NAME == cu3088 ]; then
   modprobe ctcm 2 /dev/null || :
   modprobe ctc 2 /dev/null || :
 
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@ if [ $name == cu3088 ]; then
   else
 error no kernel module for ctc devices available!
   fi
-elif [ $name == qeth ]; then
+elif [ $NAME == qeth ]; then
   modprobe qeth 2 /dev/null || :
 
   if [ -d $SYSFS/module/qeth ]; then


Bug#566632: sysconfig-hardware: Fails to bring up ctc network interface with kernel 2.6.33-rc5

2010-04-29 Thread Frans Pop
Attached the patch included in 0.0.9+nmu2.

diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian/changelog
index dc72b7d..d2d2da0 100644
--- a/debian/changelog
+++ b/debian/changelog
@@ -1,3 +1,11 @@
+sysconfig (0.0.9+nmu2) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * Non-maintainer upload.
+  * Allow for driver name change in sysfs for CTC network devices in Linux
+kernel 2.6.33. Closes: #566632.
+
+ -- Frans Pop f...@debian.org  Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:50:24 +0200
+
 sysconfig (0.0.9+nmu1) unstable; urgency=medium
 
   * Non-maintainer upload.
diff --git a/etc/sysconfig/scripts/hardware/hwup-ccw-group b/etc/sysconfig/scripts/hardware/hwup-ccw-group
index f3ed7b6..2aecf13 100755
--- a/etc/sysconfig/scripts/hardware/hwup-ccw-group
+++ b/etc/sysconfig/scripts/hardware/hwup-ccw-group
@@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ elif [ $name == qeth ]; then
   fi
 fi
 
-ccw=/bus/ccw/drivers/$NAME
+ccw=/bus/ccw/devices/$ID/driver
 ccwgroup=/bus/ccwgroup/drivers/$DRIVER
 
 message_n Configuring device $ID: 


Bug#566629: sysconfig-hardware: Inconsistency for module ctc versus ctcm

2010-04-29 Thread Frans Pop
Attached the patch included in 0.0.9+nmu2.

diff --git a/debian/changelog b/debian/changelog
index 8fb6ea6..f8fd3dc 100644
--- a/debian/changelog
+++ b/debian/changelog
@@ -4,6 +4,8 @@ sysconfig (0.0.9+nmu2) unstable; urgency=low
   * Allow for driver name change in sysfs for CTC network devices in Linux
 kernel 2.6.33. Closes: #566632.
   * Correct variable use in hwup-ccw-group script. Closes: #566635.
+  * Also set buffer and protocol options both for the (old) ctc module and
+the (current) ctcm modules. Closes: #566629.
 
  -- Frans Pop f...@debian.org  Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:50:24 +0200
 
diff --git a/etc/sysconfig/scripts/hardware/hwup-ccw-group b/etc/sysconfig/scripts/hardware/hwup-ccw-group
index 491e7d6..59b3ec1 100755
--- a/etc/sysconfig/scripts/hardware/hwup-ccw-group
+++ b/etc/sysconfig/scripts/hardware/hwup-ccw-group
@@ -95,16 +95,19 @@ write_setting () {
   fi
 }
 
-if [ $DRIVER = ctc ]; then
-  write_setting buffer $CTC_BUFFER
-  write_setting protocol $CTC_PROTOCOL
-elif [ $DRIVER = qeth ]; then
-  write_setting portname $QETH_PORTNAME
-  write_setting portno $QETH_PORTNO
-  write_option fake_broadcast ${qeth_optio...@]}
-  write_option fake_ll ${qeth_optio...@]}
-  write_option layer2 ${qeth_optio...@]}
-fi
+case $DRIVER in
+  ctc|ctcm)
+write_setting buffer $CTC_BUFFER
+write_setting protocol $CTC_PROTOCOL
+;;
+  qeth)
+write_setting portname $QETH_PORTNAME
+write_setting portno $QETH_PORTNO
+write_option fake_broadcast ${qeth_optio...@]}
+write_option fake_ll ${qeth_optio...@]}
+write_option layer2 ${qeth_optio...@]}
+;;
+esac
 
 echo 1  $SYSFS$ccwgroup/$CCWGROUP_ID/online
 message ok.


Bug#571045: syslinux: Incorrect display of boot screen image in D-I

2010-04-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 14 April 2010, Daniel Baumann wrote:
 On 04/14/2010 02:56 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
  Can we please get a fix? It's been a while since the very first image
  seen by people giving a shot to d-i is broken.

 since the change was done upstream wise on purpose, i think i'm sticking
 with fixing the image instead.

debian-cd does not actually have the image. It is provided by D-I [1].
So IIUC someone will need to change the boot splash image from 640x320 to 
640x480.

[1] installer/build/boot/x86/pics/klowner.*



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Bug#577451: hw-detect: Should automatically install hardware related packages (RAID tools, printer drivers, fingerprint scanner tools, etc)

2010-04-11 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 577451 pkgsel
severity 577451 wishlist
thanks

On Sunday 11 April 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 For some kind of hardware, it would be very nice if the Debian
 installer automatically installed the packages to support the hardware
 in question.

IMO this belongs in pkgsel, not in hw-detect. It has nothing to do with 
hardware detection as used in D-I itself.



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Bug#577461: installation-guide: Updates to textmode activation

2010-04-11 Thread Frans Pop
tag 577461 pending
thanks

On Sunday 11 April 2010, Samuel Thibault wrote:
 Samuel Thibault, le Sun 11 Apr 2010 22:58:39 +0200, a écrit :
  Squeeze apparently needs vga=0 in addition to fb=false, else the
  kernel switches to graphical mode very early.

 That being said, it could actually been considered as a regression,
 since fb=false used to be enough.

It's not a regression but a necessary change since we now use VESA 
framebuffer by default for all x86 installs in order to have a better 
display resolution.

The fact that now two parameters are needed is the simple consequence of 
the fact that one is a kernel parameter (which *must* be passed at boot 
time) and one is a D-I parameter and the fact that the one does not 
automatically imply the other.

I've applied a modified version of both your patches. I've left out the 
virtualization bits as I don't think they belong in a section about 
accessibility and disabling framebuffer in general is already also 
documented in the general boot parameters section.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#577461: installation-guide: Updates to textmode activation

2010-04-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 12 April 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 The fact that now two parameters are needed is the simple consequence of
 the fact that one is a kernel parameter (which *must* be passed at boot
 time) and one is a D-I parameter and the fact that the one does not
 automatically imply the other.

Actually, *maybe* we could remove the need for fb=false for x86 if we 
dropped support for the vga16 framebuffer driver.



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Bug#576885: debhelper: Change to act only on relevant packages breaks builds

2010-04-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 08 April 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
 That's few enough to manually review. I found these problems:
 - partconf (contains workaround for #572077 that can be removed)

Updated in SVN.



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Bug#576885: debhelper: Change to act only on relevant packages breaks builds

2010-04-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 08 April 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
 Frans Pop wrote:
  This could of course be fixed with an arch test, but that would mean
  an extra cost of maintaining that arch test with changes in supported
  arches in debian/control.

 Or with a dh_listpackages test. (or a test -d)

Right. Have fixed it that way for netcfg.

On Thursday 08 April 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
 So, in balance, this change seems very likely to me to not cause
 anything except netcfg to FTBFS. It also clears up a source of build
 failures that can easily lurk in packages without anyone likely to
 notice until a user, on a little-used arch, tries to build the
 package from source.

Thanks for doing the analysis. Feel free to close the BR if you're happy 
that the issue is dealt with sufficiently.

Thanks,
FJP



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Bug#576885: debhelper: Change to act only on relevant packages breaks builds

2010-04-08 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 08 April 2010, I wrote:
 On Thursday 08 April 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
  Frans Pop wrote:
   This could of course be fixed with an arch test, but that would mean
   an extra cost of maintaining that arch test with changes in
   supported arches in debian/control.
 
  Or with a dh_listpackages test. (or a test -d)

 Right. Have fixed it that way for netcfg.

Hmmm. dh_gencontrol still fails with the override netcfg has for it. Is 
that expected?

   debian/rules override_dh_gencontrol
make[1]: Entering directory `/srv/project/d-i/trunk/packages/netcfg'
dh_gencontrol -- -Vnetcfg:Depends=
dpkg-gencontrol: error: current host architecture 's390' does not appear in 
package's architecture list (i386 amd64 alpha arm armel armeb hppa ia64 
m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64 hurd-i386 sh4)
dh_gencontrol: 
dpkg-gencontrol -pnetcfg -ldebian/changelog -Tdebian/netcfg.substvars 
-Pdebian/netcfg -Vnetcfg:Depends= 
returned exit code 255

I can fix it of course by adding back the '-s' option there, but as 
essentially dh_gencontrol is still being called without options (the
only option is end-of-options), I wonder if this isn't a bug.



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Bug#576885: debhelper: Change to act only on relevant packages breaks builds

2010-04-07 Thread Frans Pop
Package: debhelper
Version: 7.4.16
Severity: important
Tags: d-i

I was happy to see the change to make debhelper only act on packages
relevant to the current architecture as it allows to remove a workaround
that was needed in netcfg after the switch to dh 7 [1].

However, it turns out that this change causes a new build failure in
netcfg, again for s390.

The binary package 'netcfg' is not built for s390, only netcfg-static.

But debian/rules has the following:
override_dh_installdebconf:
dh_installdebconf
(echo ; po2debconf debian/netcfg-common.templates ) \
debian/netcfg-static/DEBIAN/templates
(echo ; po2debconf debian/netcfg-common.templates )\
debian/netcfg/DEBIAN/templates
(echo ; po2debconf debian/netcfg-dhcp.templates )\
debian/netcfg/DEBIAN/templates
(echo ; po2debconf debian/netcfg-static.templates )\
debian/netcfg/DEBIAN/templates

This now fails with:
   debian/rules override_dh_installdebconf
make[1]: Entering directory `/srv/project/d-i/trunk/packages/netcfg'
dh_installdebconf
(echo ; po2debconf debian/netcfg-common.templates ) \
debian/netcfg-static/DEBIAN/templates
(echo ; po2debconf debian/netcfg-common.templates )\
debian/netcfg/DEBIAN/templates
/bin/sh: cannot create debian/netcfg/DEBIAN/templates: Directory nonexistent
make[1]: *** [override_dh_installdebconf] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/srv/project/d-i/trunk/packages/netcfg'
make: *** [binary] Error 2

This could of course be fixed with an arch test, but that would mean
an extra cost of maintaining that arch test with changes in supported
arches in debian/control. The previous behavior made that unnecessary.

I suspect there are many more packages that rely on the fact that general
preparation of a binary has always been done even if the binary is not
valid for the current arch and that this change may cause e.g. binNMUs to
suddenly fail. Maybe not a good idea at this stage of the Squeeze release
process.

[1] http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/d-i/trunk/packages/netcfg/debian/?rev=61127sc=1

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.34-rc3 (SMP w/2 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages debhelper depends on:
ii  binutils  2.20.1-5   The GNU assembler, linker and bina
ii  dpkg-dev  1.15.5.6   Debian package development tools
ii  file  5.04-2 Determines file type using magic
ii  html2text 1.3.2a-14  advanced HTML to text converter
ii  man-db2.5.7-2on-line manual pager
ii  perl  5.10.1-11  Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 
ii  perl-base 5.10.1-11  minimal Perl system
ii  po-debconf1.0.16 tool for managing templates file t

debhelper recommends no packages.

Versions of packages debhelper suggests:
pn  dh-make   none (no description available)

-- no debconf information



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Bug#576206: debian-installer: [ppc] does not work with serial console

2010-04-01 Thread Frans Pop
tag 576206 moreinfo
thanks

On Thursday 01 April 2010, Michal Suchanek hramr...@centrum.cz wrote:
 qemu-system-ppc -m 1024 -net nic -net
 tap,ifname=tap0,script=no,downscript=nomg -cdrom
 debian-504-powerpc-netinst.iso  -boot d -nographic

 does not seem to do anything.

 Without -nographic a prompt on yellow screen appears where you can type
 something to boot an installer.

I think this is an error in how you're trying to boot the installer or your 
qemu invocation rather than a bug.
I don't really know anything about powerpc myself, nor how to use qemu for 
powerpc, so I suggest you ask on the debian-powerpc list for help.

The installer does have serial console support and I'm not aware of any 
issues with that on real powerpc hardware.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#576206: debian-installer: [ppc] does not work with serial console

2010-04-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 01 April 2010, Michal Suchanek wrote:
 Changing the -boot d to -boot c gives access to the installed system
 with full serial support from the quik bootloader so I don't think this
 is the case.

Can you provide the boot log for the installer somehow?



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Bug#576206: debian-installer: [ppc] does not work with serial console

2010-04-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 01 April 2010, Michal Suchanek wrote:
 I cannot run the installer without graphics. It could be that the
 installer is actually running but does not print anything on the serial
 port but I doubt that is the case because with graphics I have to type
 the name of the image to boot.

Right, and that suggests to me that it's not an *installer* issue, but at 
most a bootloader configuration problem for the CDs.

As I've said before, I (and most others on the Installer team) have zero 
knowledge of powerpc. Please try to find out what's wrong or needed on the 
d-powerpc list where all the port experts hang out. If a needed change is 
identified we'll be happy to help get it implemented.



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Bug#558686: This bug now happens always

2010-03-30 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 30 March 2010, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote:
 Since about ten days, I can reproduce always this bug using daily builds
 of squeeze images.

 I've also been using simple-cdd to do squeeze images, and the bug begun
 to appear since last tuesday. So there must be some package migrated to
 testing about those days that make it.

I think the migrated to testing comment is incorrect.

Daily built images use udebs from *unstable*, so it is quite likely to be 
related to the upload of the new parted to unstable, which happened about 
the time you indicate.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#575947: 60-persistent-input.rules is missing in the udeb

2010-03-30 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 30 March 2010, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
 I just noticed that qcontrol in squeeze d-i doesn't work because
 /dev/input/by-path/platform-gpio-keys-event doesn't exist.  Please
 include 60-persistent-input.rules in the udev so it's created.

I suppose this may be because some of the persistent-input rules require 
libusb? For the graphical installer we created a (fairly large) extra udeb 
that contains persistent-input because X.Org needs it. The size of that 
udeb is I think related to the calls to 'input_id' and 'usb_id', which 
require libudev.

However, this is a regression as the Squeeze udeb did support the simple 
by-path symlinks for platform devices, and AFAICT no external programs are 
needed for that.

I'm not sure what the correct solution is here.
Split up 60-persistent-input.rules in udev-udeb? Include the rule needed 
for the platform devices in qcontrol-udeb instead of relying on udev-udeb?

Marco, what do you think?



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Bug#575751: [rootskel-gtk PATCH] Only start X if we're using the GTK frontend.

2010-03-29 Thread Frans Pop
tag 575751 pending
thanks

On Sunday 28 March 2010, Julien Cristau wrote:
 Subject: Only start X if we're using the GTK frontend.

 Also try to not start X clients before the server is ready to accept
 connections.

Thanks. Committed.

Will upload once ftp-master is alive again.



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Bug#575352: debmirror: spelling mistake in mirror_size

2010-03-25 Thread Frans Pop
tag 575352 pending
thanks

On Thursday 25 March 2010, Prema wrote:
 -All numbers reflect the state of te archive per 19 Dec 2009.
 +All numbers reflect the state of the archive per 19 Dec 2009.

Thanks. Will be fixed with the next release.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#569348: example debmirror.conf contains useless $dry_run

2010-03-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 11 February 2010, Piotr Lewandowski wrote:
 In contrast to $dry_run_var, this variable has no effect on debmirror.
 Please update example accordingly.

Thanks for reporting this. I have fixed the problem differently from your 
suggestion. I think it makes more sense to keep the name in the config 
file similar to the option, so I have changed the internal use of the 
variable in the script.

With the next version of debmirror setting $dry_run *will* work correctly.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#574647: Likely solution - quotemeta

2010-03-25 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 25 March 2010, David Venz wrote:
 Tried this out and it appears to fix the problem:

   sub first_set_with_package {
my ($package, $set) = @_;
 + # Escape any characters that will upset the regex below
 + $package = quotemeta($package);
foreach my $s (sort keys %$set) {
if ($$set{$s}{plist} =~ /(^|,)$package(,|$)/) {
return $s;

Thanks, but I've already committed a different solution, which effectively 
does the same:

 if ($$set{$s}{plist} =~ /(^|,)\Q$package\E(,|$)/) {

A similar change was also needed in a few other places.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#572605: still present -- installation-reports: Sid d-i on PowerPC can not find driver for network interface

2010-03-24 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 24 March 2010, Benjamin Cama wrote:
 I don't know the exact cause of this bug, but there is not enough
 informations (for me) to try to understand this bug. Could you give at
 least a dmesg result when in the installer ? And what exact message does
 it outputs when looking for the adapter ?

There is no real bug. The only problem is that the images that are 
currently available are outdated.

If you should build an image yourself, I expect it will work fine.

This has already been explained in an earlier reply to this BR:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=572605#17



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Bug#505111: will suggest removal from testing

2010-03-24 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 24 March 2010, Robert Lemmen wrote:
 unless you object soon, i will suggest the removal of these packages
 from testing. the rationale is (a mixture of these will apply to the
 package in question)

This package should not be removed. The bug is partly theoretical and only 
affects a minority of use cases.



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Bug#505111: will suggest removal from testing

2010-03-24 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 24 March 2010, Robert Lemmen wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:51:41PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
  This package should not be removed. The bug is partly theoretical and
  only affects a minority of use cases.

 ok, so you think it should be squeeze-ignore? do you think it should be
 ignored for any release in the future? or downgraded? having bugs which
 are marked as grave, but at the same time are ignored forever seems
 like a slightly suboptimal usage of the BTS...

I think it should be fixed, but that the bug is not sufficient reason for 
removal of the package.

Unfortunately the D-I team is understaffed. Leaving the bug at it's current 
(technically correct) severity will maybe help get other people to take in 
interest in it.



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Bug#572605: still present -- installation-reports: Sid d-i on PowerPC can not find driver for network interface

2010-03-24 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 24 March 2010, Benjamin Cama wrote:
 OK. So, if it has not already been told (I didn't see much details about
 that in this BR) what steps should be taken for powerpc volunteers ?

If you are not a Debian Developer I'm afraid you cannot help with this 
issue.

However, there is plenty of other work that could be done to improve 
powerpc support in Debian Installer. Feel free to check the BTS for any 
open issues and work on them and submit patches.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#373253: #373253 libgcc_s.so.1 on AMD64 and PowerPC should be provided

2010-03-24 Thread Frans Pop
tags 373253 wontfix
thanks

Because of the switch from DirectFB to X.Org as backend for the graphical 
installer I don't think this issue is relevant anymore.

But I'm keeping the BR open for now for reference.



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Bug#572605: still present -- installation-reports: Sid d-i on PowerPC can not find driver for network interface

2010-03-24 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 24 March 2010, Rick Thomas wrote:
 So how do we get this fixed?  If it really is a problem on the buildd,
 who *can* fix it?  Is there a list somewhere of who is responsible for
 which buildd?

I've already provided that info a few times. For the centralized D-I 
buildds (which includes powerpc) Luk Claes and Otavio Salvador are the 
persons who set up the buildds and who are AFAIK the only people who 
currently have the access required to maintain the buildds.
I have seen no mails from them on the d-boot list requesting help with 
that, so I can only assume they're still willing to maintain them 
(although the evidence seems to indicate otherwise).

 If it doesn't get fixed, there's not much point in claiming that
 Debian supports PowerPC architecture...

Bullshit. I agree that it's a huge nuisance for testing and that the daily 
builds really should be available, but the alpha1 release works just fine 
(except for the known issues) and a next release will also not have this 
issue.

For testing the current development status of the installer you could 
always build your own images. It's not that hard.

Your point about not supporting powerpc is a gross exaggeration and to be 
honest I'm getting pretty tired of your repeating that any time 
*volunteers* don't jump quickly enough to your liking.

So far I've also not seen that much actual help with arch-specific D-I 
development from the Debian powerpc community, despite repeated calls for 
help from our side.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#575309: user-setup: Should stop adding first user to device access groups

2010-03-24 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 24 March 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 The code in user-setup-apply to add the first user to all the groups
 in passwd/user-default-groups should no longer be needed.  I believe
 it should be dropped for Squeeze, or at least the default groups used
 should be trimmed down to nothing.

What about (server) systems that don't have consolekit installed?

What harm do the current group assignments do? After all, we're only 
talking about the first user here!



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Bug#572605: still present -- installation-reports: Sid d-i on PowerPC can not find driver for network interface

2010-03-24 Thread Frans Pop
(Dropping some CCs.)

On Wednesday 24 March 2010, Norberto Feliberty wrote:
 However maybe that has changed and will test a sid build and see if
 it can find the network drivers to install.

That will only work if you build your own images. If you can do that, 
great!

The fact that the official daily built images (which use the current 
udebs from Sid) are outdated and therefore not usable is exactly the point 
of this discussion.
The daily built images are normally linked from [1], but I have removed the 
links for the problematic architectures a few weeks ago for this very 
reason.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/



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Bug#575309: user-setup: Should stop adding first user to device access groups

2010-03-24 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 24 March 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
  What about (server) systems that don't have consolekit installed?

 Yes, what about them?

On such systems the first user would be left without expected default 
access to devices.

 If the local user to have special privileges, one should install the
 packages providing such privileges to the local user.

There's more way than one to Rome. Group membership is a traditional and 
still valid way to provide rights. Having packages like consolekit 
installed is not a requirement.

  What harm do the current group assignments do? After all, we're only
  talking about the first user here!

 It grant local device access to a user that should not have it.  The
 first user should not have local device access, unless that user is
 logged in locally on the machine console.

Why should that user not have it? For the purpose of D-I installations the 
first user is defined as being the admin and/or console user of the 
system.
If you install systems where the first user does not hold that role, you 
should disable creation of the first user account during installation, or 
tune the default groups he's made a member of.

I disagree with this proposed change. IMO the default group assignments are 
in line with the purpose of the first user account.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#575059: Should Package-Type be included in udebs or not?

2010-03-23 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 23 March 2010, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 I'm a bit annoyed with lintian officializing usage of the non-official
 field name.

 It's counterproductive IMO. The issue should be resolved at the dpkg
 level. Unfortunately the underlying issue has never been resolved
 between Guillem and the d-i team, you can find the discussion
 here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=452273

Please note that I have not promoted the lintian warning as I'm well aware 
of the background of this. From Cyril's PoV the lintian warning may have 
seemed logical, but I agree that the real issue is in dpkg which in the 
view of the D-I team should not include the field in the control file in 
packages, at least not for udebs.

See my mail in reply to Cyril's proposal of the patch:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2010/03/msg00190.html

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#549681: needs MODULES=dep on some PowerPC systems

2010-03-23 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 549681 base-installer
severity 549681 normal
tag 549681 help
user debian-b...@lists.debian.org
usertag 549681 powerpc
thanks

On Wednesday 24 March 2010, maximilian attems wrote:
  some OpenFirmware implementations, such as the one in the PegasosII,
  have a 12 MB size limit on kernel images, and no initrd loading
  capability. The latter is worked around by merging the initrd into the
  image with the mkvmlinuz tool, however the generated images are
  unbootable if they exceed 12 MB.
 
  It would be good if mkinitramfs would fail on systems that have the
  string platform: CHRP in /proc/cpuinfo if compressed kernel
  and initramfs together are larger than 12 MB, to stop unpleasant
  surprises when booting.

 partman has some checks for partitions,
 aboves specialised wish sound nice for debian installer
 although there are not many powerpc guys.

Deciding on the MODULES= setting is done by base-installer.
If somebody from the Debian PowerPC community can provide a tested patch 
for this we'll be happy to apply it. If help is needed developing the 
patch, feel free to ask on the debian-boot list.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#574985: using the network even when I said no network mirror...

2010-03-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 22 March 2010, Holger Levsen wrote:
 If I dont configure a mirror for the regular system, I will mostly
 likely edit the sources.list myself anyway. And then I could also enable
 commented out entries for volatile and security...

It could also be you're installing from DVD and not interested in a regular 
mirror, but that you do want essential updates...

We consider security and volatile essential services. Users should not be 
left without them unless they really know what they're doing.



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Bug#575012: x86 architecture names are confusing

2010-03-22 Thread Frans Pop
tags 575012 wontfix
severity 575012 wishlist
thanks

On Monday 22 March 2010, Ben Hutchings wrote:
 The current installation and download links referring to 'AMD64'
 sometimes confuse users with Intel x86-64 chips, who instead select
 'IA64'.  This is a waste of time and bandwidth for all concerned.

 The name 'Intel x86' is also inaccurate in that the i386 architecture
 runs on 32-bit x86 processors from many vendors.

 I recommend the names '32-bit PC' and '64-bit PC'.

It's a known issue and I appreciate your concern, but I'm not going to 
change this exclusively in the installation guide.

The installation guide currently simply follows the terminology used for in 
general for the project.

If it needs to be changed, then it needs to be done (in a coordinated 
fashion) for the whole distribution and not just for a single document.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#574854: libklibc-dev: D-I rootskel FTBFS because of missing header files

2010-03-21 Thread Frans Pop
Package: libklibc-dev
Version: 1.5.16-1
Severity: serious

The D-I package rootskel failed to build with this version and also after
upgrading to 1.5.17-2 because header files could not be found.

The cause was traced to the fact that instead of symlinks there are empty
directories:

$ ls -dl /usr/lib/klibc/include/linux
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 28672 Mar 18 16:21 /usr/lib/klibc/include/linux

$ ls -dl /usr/lib/klibc/include/asm*
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 18 16:21 /usr/lib/klibc/include/asm
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 18 16:21 /usr/lib/klibc/include/asm-generic

$ ls -l /usr/lib/klibc/include/linux
total 0

$ ls -l /usr/lib/klibc/include/asm*
/usr/lib/klibc/include/asm:
total 0
/usr/lib/klibc/include/asm-generic:
total 0

-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.31.1 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages libklibc-dev depends on:
ii  libklibc  1.5.17-2   minimal libc subset for use with i
ii  linux-libc-dev2.6.32-10  Linux support headers for userspac

libklibc-dev recommends no packages.

libklibc-dev suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information



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Bug#574647: debtree: 'nested quantifiers in regex' when a package name contains +

2010-03-19 Thread Frans Pop
Package: debtree
Version: 1.0.5

If a package name contains regexp characters, mainly +, the following can 
occur:

Nested quantifiers in regex; marked by -- HERE in m/(^|,)g++ -- HERE (,|
$)/ at /usr/local/bin/debtree line 377.

sub first_set_with_package {
my ($package, $set) = @_;
foreach my $s (sort keys %$set) {
-- if ($$set{$s}{plist} =~ /(^|,)$package(,|$)/) {
return $s;
}
}
}



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Bug#394719: About bug # 394719 in Debian BTS

2010-03-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 18 March 2010, Olivier Vitrat wrote:
 Are you able to reproduce it with a recent version of the package ?
 If yes, which version ?

It can still be reproduced with the Lenny version of kmail. No idea about 
Squeeze. If you want to know that, you'll have to try it yourself.

 If not, can we close this old bug report ?

As it is an upstream issue anyway I have no huge problems with that.



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Bug#574288: Please switch from DirectFB to X11

2010-03-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 17 March 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
 please find attached the patch to switch from DirectFB to X11. See
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2010/03/msg00313.html for the
 details.

--- src/lib/debian-installer.d/Makefile (révision 62665)
+++ src/lib/debian-installer.d/Makefile (copie de travail)
@@ -15,12 +15,8 @@
 endif
 
 files = \
-   S62directfb-hw-accel \
-   S62directfb-cairo-workaround
+   S62Xorg

This new file seems to be missing in the patch.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#574336: pkgsel: Only run update-initramfs once during installation?

2010-03-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 17 March 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 This seem like a good optimization for the installation time to bring
 over to Debian, making sure update-initramfs is only executed twice
 during the installation instead of several times more

In exactly which scenario would it be executed more than twice?

I don't much like the patch either. Why doesn't it just use in-target to 
run update-initramfs?



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Bug#574336: pkgsel: Only run update-initramfs once during installation?

2010-03-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 17 March 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 It is possible some of these are from setting up the LTSP chroot
 environment.

Something looks very broken in this example.

Why is initramfs-tools getting set up twice for the same version?

Why is dmsetup getting installed if it is not being used during 
partitioning (in which case it should already have been installed _before_ 
initramfs-tools gets installed the first time)?

After that the only remaining cause for an extra run is usplash.
If debian-edu wants that installed by default, then the correct solution 
IMO is to include it on the first CD and ensure it gets installed during 
post-base-installer.d and not during pkgsel.

The problem here IMO is a badly structured installation, not a missing 
feature in pkgsel.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#574336: pkgsel: Only run update-initramfs once during installation?

2010-03-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 17 March 2010, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 No idea.  This what made me suspect the cause might be the LTSP
 chroot.

Ah. I failed to really comprehend that earlier.
Yes, I guess that could be and that would of course make it separate from 
base system installation 

  Why is dmsetup getting installed if it is not being used during
  partitioning (in which case it should already have been installed
  _before_ initramfs-tools gets installed the first time)?

 It is a dependency of lvm2.  I asked 'aptitude why dmsetup' on the
 machine in question. :)

The same goes for LVM2 though. That should really be installed as a result 
of partitioning, not as an extra package. Or is that installed in the LTSP 
chroot as well?
If it is the LTSP chroot that is the cause, then I think pkgsel really is 
the wrong place to address this.

 Oh, well.  My goal for this request was a faster installation.  I
 assume we share that goal, and do not see the point of arguing further
 for making sure update-initramfs is called as few times as possible.

Sure. But that does not mean we should blindly complicate D-I code without 
checking the validity of the use case.

P.S. I've been wondering if we shouldn't consider postponing kernel 
installation until after APT is configured. In some ways it is more 
logical to group it with bootloader installation than with base system 
installation. It could also make sense for firmware installation (see my 
comments in #574158). Not something to change lightly though. Added 
complication is consistent handling of Recommends.



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Bug#574288: Please switch from DirectFB to X11

2010-03-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 17 March 2010, Julien Cristau wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 12:50:04 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
  --- /dev/null
  +++ b/src/lib/debian-installer.d/S62Xorg
  @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@
  +Xorg -retro -noreset -nolisten tcp 
  +export DISPLAY=:0

 This is racy, we probably should do something better here.

Hmmm. And it's also important to distinguish between debian-installer.d and 
debian-installer-startup.d correctly.

debian-installer-startup.d: executed once when D-I boots
debian-installer.d: executed after d-i-startup.d and respawned if the 
debconf frontend should crash

So IIUC having it here means we run the risk of starting multiple servers.

It seems to me that this should maybe go in debian-installer-startup.d, but 
that may require more changes in order to determine the frontend to be 
used early enough.

Another solution could be to check if the server is already running and 
only start it if not. That could provide a restart of the X server if 
*that* crashes.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#574407: os-prober does not detect 64bit systems like Fedora 64

2010-03-17 Thread Frans Pop
tag 574407 pending
thanks

On Wednesday 17 March 2010, max wrote:
 os-prober does not detect 64bit systems like Fedora 64.
 The /usr/lib/os-probes/mounted/90linux-distro script only checks
 $dir/lib/ld*.so* but to detect Fedora 64 correctly it must check
 $dir/lib64/ld*.so* too.

I've simplified that to just looking for $dir/lib*/ld*.so*.

Thanks a lot for the report and proposing a patch.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#574096: installation problem report

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Paul Jurczak wrote:
 Comments/Problems:
 I'm experimenting with various distributions and I successfully
 installed Ubuntu, Puppy, Fedora from USB Flash to USB Flash. Debian is
 the first distro, where I had to go USB CD to USB Flash route.

Debian supports all kinds of installation methods. Looks to me like you 
simply did not try the correct one. For installations from USB stick you 
should use the hd-media installation method.

Please see our installation guide.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#574096: installation problem report

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
Please always reply to the BTS, not to the person responding.

On Tuesday 16 March 2010, you wrote:
 Thank you for quick response. Do you mean that copying
 hd-media/boot.img.gz and .iso image to USB Flash will result in
 different installation behavior than preparing USB Flash with LiveUSB
 Creator and plain .iso image?

I have no idea what LiveUSB Creator does. But if it only uses what's on the 
image it cannot work since, as you noticed, the installation image 
included on that will look for a CD *drive* instead of for a CD *image*.
The main feature of the hd-media installation image is that it looks for CD 
images.



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Bug#573791: Installer fails due to invalid signatures

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 573791 installation-reports
tag 573791 unreproducible needinfo
thanks

On Tuesday 16 March 2010, steve clark wrote:
 I sent a report to the debian bug reporting system (bug number 573791)
 but it seems to not have been taken serious, being shuffled between
 responsible owners.

I see it differently: you have an installation problem that nobody else is 
having and have not quite found the correct way to report it.

The reason your bug report was reassigned is that the original report had 
an incorrect syntax. So it is *not* being shuffled around; someone was 
merely trying to correct your incorrect initial reporting.
And please understand that reporting an issue incorrectly drastically 
increases the chance that it will be missed!

 Happens with other lives debian based systems (e.g. ubuntu 9.10 server)
 too.

Please report issues with Ubuntu installs to Ubuntu.

 I'm a novice Debian user (4 months), but have over 25 years across
 multiple systems and am a professional developer, so think I can
 recognise a must look at problem when I see one :)

In that case I would also expect you to recognize when a problem is so 
completely unlikely to escape the attention of the project publishing the 
software that it may well by an issue that's solely due to the 
inexperience of the user?
I can assure you that, if Lenny really was not installable, we would be 
flooded with reports. Fortunately that has not happened.

The fact that you consistently see the issue could also be explained by the 
fact that you're doing something consistently wrong maybe.

!! I have just tried an install using the 5.04 netinst and using the
!! ftp.uk.debian.org mirror without any problems.

There may have been a temporary problem with that particular mirror. If 
there was it appears to be solved now. Did you try different mirrors?

 I would further suggest that as it prevents any new installations of
 Debian since at least 11th March 2010, its serverity is a little higher
 than normal.

*If* the issue is confirmed to be a real issue *and* really affects all 
installations and not simply one isolated mirror, then yes. Until then a 
much more appropriate categorization is unreproducible, needs additional 
info.


Now, to try to solve your problem, assuming that you can still reproduce 
it, we will need additional information.

Please send us the syslog of a failed installation. You should be able to 
save it using the Save debug logs option in the main menu of the 
installer.
Please gzip the syslog before sending it and send your reply _only_ to 
573...@bugs.debian.org.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#573791: apt-get update in Debian 5.04 (lenny) failing since updates of 2010-03-11

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
 Please note this log is taken just now using:
 debian 5.04 netinst business card image

I have just tried with the same image (for i386), using ftp.nl.d.o as 
mirror without any problems. My log looks similar to you, except that I 
get good signatures...

From my log:
Mar 16 17:41:08 choose-mirror[6970]: INFO: suite/codename set to: 
stable/lenny
[...]
Mar 16 16:42:18 main-menu[1044]: INFO: Menu item 'bootstrap-base' selected
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: gpgv: 
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: Signature made Fri Jan 29 23:18:35 2010 UTC 
using RSA key ID 55BE302B
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: gpgv: 
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: Good signature from Debian Archive Automatic 
Signing Key (5.0/lenny) ftpmas...@debian.org
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: 
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: gpgv: 
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: Signature made Fri Jan 29 23:25:01 2010 UTC 
using DSA key ID F42584E6
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: gpgv: 
Mar 16 16:42:21 debootstrap: Good signature from Lenny Stable Release Key 
debian-rele...@lists.debian.org


I wonder if somehow the files are getting corrupted during download.

Can you copy the following two files from the installer after a debootstrap 
failure and send them:
/target/var/lib/apt/lists/debootstrap.invalid_dists_lenny_Release
/target/var/lib/apt/lists/debootstrap.invalid_dists_lenny_Release.gpg

The first one should be zipped again.



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Bug#574158: firmware licenses never displayed

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Joey Hess wrote:
 3. Provide some way for firmware debs to communicate to d-i that they
    have a license the user needs to see, and have check-missing-firmware
    display these licenses before the firmware is ever used.

This is the option that I have had in the back of my mind for some time.

I think for really structural support of firmware, we could repackage it 
like we do for kernel modules and include meta data (partially? 
automatically generated) about the deb something was taken from + licence 
requirements.

That would also allow to e.g. skip old versions of firmware.

My personal opinion is that it should actually be quite OK to include 
non-free firmware *udebs* on (CD) images as long as
- the licence in no way limits distribution;
- we never allow use of any non-free firmware without explicit ack
  by the user.

The *debs* should IMO always be either downloaded from a mirror (using 
standard apt-install) with fallback support for installing them from an 
external medium.

Under those conditions I think the project might be persuaded to accept 
inclusion of firmware in D-I images and on CDs.

We should of course keep support for loading firmware that does not match 
these criteria from external media.



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Bug#243857: Patch has been available in Ubuntu

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
tags 243857 + pending
thanks

On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Joshua Kwan wrote:
 Looks like this bug hasn't seen action for quite a while. It seems like
 in the meantime, Ubuntu has fixed this bug. Check out this patch:
 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18656164/cdrom-detect-better-flow.patch

Thanks for the pointer.

 This code is in their current version of cdrom-detect and seems to work
 well in the exact same situation that d-i fails. Can we get this patch
 backported?

Part of the patch is already in our code. I've ported the rest and done 
some additional refactoring. Will commit after testing in the next few 
days.

 I can do a NMU if there is no real maintainer willing to step up.

An NMU (upload not from the D-I SVN repo) is never really a solution in the 
case of D-I as it tends to increase rather than reduce the work for 
maintainers. In general NMUs should not be needed where packages are 
maintained by a generally active team.
It also seems not indicated in this case as this is the first time a patch 
has been suggested for the issue.

Providing (preferably tested) patches against current SVN helps maintainers 
a lot more and is very much appreciated. Pinging maintainers on bug 
reports is also always appreciated.

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#243857: Patch has been available in Ubuntu

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
Hi Joshua,

On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Joshua Kwan wrote:
 Looks like this bug hasn't seen action for quite a while. It seems like
 in the meantime, Ubuntu has fixed this bug. Check out this patch:

 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18656164/cdrom-detect-better-flow.patch

Thanks for the pointer.

 I can do a NMU if there is no real maintainer willing to step up.

An NMU is not required (and does not really reduce the work of maintainers 
anyway).

But a proper patch, preferably tested, that applies to the current version 
of the source package and that does not log messages saying Ubuntu would 
be most welcome. I would suggest changing the message to ... is not a 
valid installation CD (especially as it does not actually test if it is a 
Debian or Ubuntu CD; if you'd happen to have a Debian CD in one drive and 
an Ubuntu CD in the other, it would accept either...).

Cheers,
FJP



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Bug#243857: Patch has been available in Ubuntu

2010-03-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Joshua Kwan wrote:
  Looks like this bug hasn't seen action for quite a while. It seems
  like in the meantime, Ubuntu has fixed this bug. Check out this patch:
 
  http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18656164/cdrom-detect-better-flow.patch

 Thanks for the pointer.

  I can do a NMU if there is no real maintainer willing to step up.

 An NMU is not required (and does not really reduce the work of
 maintainers anyway).

 But a proper patch, preferably tested, that applies to the current
 version of the source package and that does not log messages saying
 Ubuntu would be most welcome. I would suggest changing the message to
 ... is not a valid installation CD (especially as it does not actually
 test if it is a Debian or Ubuntu CD; if you'd happen to have a Debian CD
 in one drive and an Ubuntu CD in the other, it would accept either...).

Please ignore this mail. Apparently I had two versions open and by mistake 
also sent this early draft.



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