Bug#132679: might even violate DFSG
Hi, I've read the arguments for/against this warning, and I'm not quite convinced. For example, SquirrelMail webmail is also GPL. There could be a bug that would cause a very important business mail to be deleted. Or a security issue that allows to read private mail or to remotely send email on behalf of the user. Luckily that's currently theoretical, but damage can indeed be inflicted on the user when using this GPL'ed software due to bugs in the software. I dare to assert that exposing someone's private mail can do more damage than destroying some piece of hardware. I think I can make similar cases for many other pieces of GPL'ed software. The risk of damage is not specific to hardware-interacting tools like xsane. It may be useful to note that clickthrough licences are not legally binding at least here in The Netherlands. So a program used here is not more protected than any other GPL'ed software. Please reconsider this mandatory clickthrough licence. Thanks, Thijs
Bug#132679: might even violate DFSG
Thijs Kinkhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Please reconsider this mandatory clickthrough licence. The author has stated already that he doesn't want the clickthrough removed for legal reasons. I'm not going against the author's will on this one. I've told so already, this is my final word on the subject. JB. -- Julien BLACHE - Debian GNU/Linux Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public key available on http://www.jblache.org - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#132679: might even violate DFSG
severity 132679 normal thanks To use this program you have to read, understand, and accept the following NO WARRANTY agreement. I'm sorry if this sounds as a me too message, but Dwayne C. Litzenberger has said it very clearly, so I'm going to quote him: 1. If every single program (GUI or otherwise) had a disclaimer that must be acknowledged, the operating system as a whole would be practically unusable. IMHO, this is not a minor thing, it is a slippery slope. We should not consider this acceptable in an Operating System which is free software. More to the point, if it's really true (i.e. to be considered part of the license) that to use the program you *have* to read and understand the no warranty thing, then the license is not DFSG-free, as it would clearly discriminate against any person who just can't read or understand the text. Just think about very small children or any person speaking a language for which the message has not been localized. They should *not* be required to read and understand the lack of warranty to be able to use the program. If the requirement is a legal requirement, then the license is not DFSG-free, this bug should be serious, and the program should go to non-free. OTOH, if it's not a legal requirement, we already warn our users that Debian comes with no warranty. In such case, please consider removing the message, as it's annoying and improper for a free OS. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#132679: might even violate DFSG
Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My position on this pseudo-issue hasn't changed. See the bug log. OTOH, if it's not a legal requirement, we already warn our users that Debian comes with no warranty. In such case, please consider removing the message, as it's annoying and improper for a free OS. Only when logging in on the console, not when using a graphical login manager. JB. -- Julien BLACHE - Debian GNU/Linux Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public key available on http://www.jblache.org - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
